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legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
I don't follow.  Why am I a "farmer"?  How am I another user?  How am I "not doing my own maths"?  All I did was do my own math!  I clearly showed every piece of math I used, and openly asked people to point out if I did anything incorrectly.  When I noticed that I did, I corrected myself.  Why is this a bad thing?  

Because thats how JPR logic is, when he sees someone with signature then he would knock him down to say he is a sig farmer and while someone with legit question without any signature posts something bad about his site then it would be a an account farmer. The only things that he could take is positive post about his site and nothing else, its a shame how there are blatantly rude site operator here and moreover associated with MP

oh yea was waiting for you to show up here  Grin Grin Grin

Congrats on another BTC.0013 and another step closer to your 30 posts per month in the gambling section!

edit:
forgot a link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12594543
and another interesting message for you
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12915227
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1016
I don't follow.  Why am I a "farmer"?  How am I another user?  How am I "not doing my own maths"?  All I did was do my own math!  I clearly showed every piece of math I used, and openly asked people to point out if I did anything incorrectly.  When I noticed that I did, I corrected myself.  Why is this a bad thing? 

Because thats how JPR logic is, when he sees someone with signature then he would knock him down to say he is a sig farmer and while someone with legit question without any signature posts something bad about his site then it would be a an account farmer. The only things that he could take is positive post about his site and nothing else, its a shame how there are blatantly rude site operator here and moreover associated with MP
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1189

a simple edit and a simple sorry is not enough IMHO

first I thought "wow there is a full member and no signature campaign" and then I saw that you are  a farmer  Grin farming BCT accounts to sell those later for a profit and thats the reason for no signature.
to be frank I don't care and thats your business

but as it is our/my business you are attacking with false claims let me tell you my opinion.
you are jumping in a thread and confirming joksim's Bullsh*t. why would one do this? you could do your own maths but you didn't. hmmm why that?

my suspicion is that you are joksim and have a few more accounts here. we don't hide anything and I don't believe you that you are a customer of our app. we have only fine and decent customers and all are enjoying the game and our free promos and they are not shy to ask questions before they shoot into the dark

users like you are the reason that we will from now open self-moderated threads only

I don't follow.  Why am I a "farmer"?  How am I another user?  How am I "not doing my own maths"?  All I did was do my own math!  I clearly showed every piece of math I used, and openly asked people to point out if I did anything incorrectly.  When I noticed that I did, I corrected myself.  Why is this a bad thing?  If I'm wrong, please point it out and I'll of course correct it.  But all I'm seeing is someone viciously and without reason attacking someone who simply calculated a few numbers.  That's shady!  I presented my findings openly and without malice.  The fact that you cannot refute them and instead resort to blindly attacking me says a lot about you and the way that you run your business(s).  Shame on you.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

Well, this should be easy to figure out.  He wagered 0.0000005BTC and won 4BTC.  He had to hit a perfect 6/6 which should be [6/49 x 5/48 x 4/47 x 3/46 x 2/45 x 1/44] = 1/13983816.  So he will lose, on average, .0000005BTC 13983815 times and win 4BTC 1 time.  So he will lose 6.9919075BTC to win 4BTC.  So, if he wagers 6.991908BTC, he will walk away with 4BTC (on average).  So the house edge appears to be ~42.79%.  Please let me know if I screwed up any of the math and I'll of course correct it.

Thats the house edge after JPR cut, isnt it too high?

If my math is correct, that's the overall house edge.  If you bet 1BTC, you should expect to get back .5721BTC.  I have no clue how the .4279BTC that you lose is divided.

And yes, for me that is way too high.  I have played on the site a little in the past but I def won't now.  

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to include the smaller 4/6 and 5/6 payouts.  I included them in my original calculation post and came with a house edge of ~27.89%.  Please let me know if I omitted anything else and I'll revise my calculations.

Thats correct and up to date calculation, overall house edge of 27.89% is too high, users should consider it before playing.

are you sure that this is correct  Grin Grin Grin because before it was 46% and so many different numbers now  Grin Grin Grin

as I said before I am sure you and the other poster are the same person. it is a shame that Yobit is accepting guys like you to their signature campaign. we canceled our account with Yobit and hoping many will follow if they don't stop people like you

oh and as our next game is soon online and we will have  a self-moderated thread  Grin



Yes it is correct. It was 46% because payouts for 4-5/6 were not included into calculation.
House edge is 27.89% with current payout table. I will ask one more user to verify calculation.

haha you ask one more time  Grin Grin Grin

lets see how often you will have a chance to show your signature and as  I suggested before go back to school or take some lessons in maths and in english but maybe my english is that bad that you cant understand it  Grin Grin Grin
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

Well, this should be easy to figure out.  He wagered 0.0000005BTC and won 4BTC.  He had to hit a perfect 6/6 which should be [6/49 x 5/48 x 4/47 x 3/46 x 2/45 x 1/44] = 1/13983816.  So he will lose, on average, .0000005BTC 13983815 times and win 4BTC 1 time.  So he will lose 6.9919075BTC to win 4BTC.  So, if he wagers 6.991908BTC, he will walk away with 4BTC (on average).  So the house edge appears to be ~42.79%.  Please let me know if I screwed up any of the math and I'll of course correct it.

Thats the house edge after JPR cut, isnt it too high?

If my math is correct, that's the overall house edge.  If you bet 1BTC, you should expect to get back .5721BTC.  I have no clue how the .4279BTC that you lose is divided.

And yes, for me that is way too high.  I have played on the site a little in the past but I def won't now.  

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to include the smaller 4/6 and 5/6 payouts.  I included them in my original calculation post and came with a house edge of ~27.89%.  Please let me know if I omitted anything else and I'll revise my calculations.

Thats correct and up to date calculation, overall house edge of 27.89% is too high, users should consider it before playing.

are you sure that this is correct  Grin Grin Grin because before it was 46% and so many different numbers now  Grin Grin Grin

as I said before I am sure you and the other poster are the same person. it is a shame that Yobit is accepting guys like you to their signature campaign. we canceled our account with Yobit and hoping many will follow if they don't stop people like you

oh and as our next game is soon online and we will have  a self-moderated thread  Grin



Yes it is correct. It was 46% because payouts for 4-5/6 were not included into calculation.
House edge is 27.89% with current payout table. I will ask one more user to verify calculation.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
looks promising but im a little confuse how to play it Undecided


thank you for the kind words. please visit us and take advantage of our 1000 free bets promo and try the game out. who knows maybe you are the next winorgohome Smiley

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

Well, this should be easy to figure out.  He wagered 0.0000005BTC and won 4BTC.  He had to hit a perfect 6/6 which should be [6/49 x 5/48 x 4/47 x 3/46 x 2/45 x 1/44] = 1/13983816.  So he will lose, on average, .0000005BTC 13983815 times and win 4BTC 1 time.  So he will lose 6.9919075BTC to win 4BTC.  So, if he wagers 6.991908BTC, he will walk away with 4BTC (on average).  So the house edge appears to be ~42.79%.  Please let me know if I screwed up any of the math and I'll of course correct it.

Thats the house edge after JPR cut, isnt it too high?

If my math is correct, that's the overall house edge.  If you bet 1BTC, you should expect to get back .5721BTC.  I have no clue how the .4279BTC that you lose is divided.

And yes, for me that is way too high.  I have played on the site a little in the past but I def won't now.  

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to include the smaller 4/6 and 5/6 payouts.  I included them in my original calculation post and came with a house edge of ~27.89%.  Please let me know if I omitted anything else and I'll revise my calculations.

Thats correct and up to date calculation, overall house edge of 27.89% is too high, users should consider it before playing.

are you sure that this is correct  Grin Grin Grin because before it was 46% and so many different numbers now  Grin Grin Grin

as I said before I am sure you and the other poster are the same person. it is a shame that Yobit is accepting guys like you to their signature campaign. we canceled our account with Yobit and hoping many will follow if they don't stop people like you

oh and as our next game is soon online and we will have  a self-moderated thread  Grin

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

Well, this should be easy to figure out.  He wagered 0.0000005BTC and won 4BTC.  He had to hit a perfect 6/6 which should be [6/49 x 5/48 x 4/47 x 3/46 x 2/45 x 1/44] = 1/13983816.  So he will lose, on average, .0000005BTC 13983815 times and win 4BTC 1 time.  So he will lose 6.9919075BTC to win 4BTC.  So, if he wagers 6.991908BTC, he will walk away with 4BTC (on average).  So the house edge appears to be ~42.79%.  Please let me know if I screwed up any of the math and I'll of course correct it.

Thats the house edge after JPR cut, isnt it too high?

If my math is correct, that's the overall house edge.  If you bet 1BTC, you should expect to get back .5721BTC.  I have no clue how the .4279BTC that you lose is divided.

And yes, for me that is way too high.  I have played on the site a little in the past but I def won't now.  

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to include the smaller 4/6 and 5/6 payouts.  I included them in my original calculation post and came with a house edge of ~27.89%.  Please let me know if I omitted anything else and I'll revise my calculations.

a simple edit and a simple sorry is not enough IMHO

first I thought "wow there is a full member and no signature campaign" and then I saw that you are  a farmer  Grin farming BCT accounts to sell those later for a profit and thats the reason for no signature.
to be frank I don't care and thats your business

but as it is our/my business you are attacking with false claims let me tell you my opinion.
you are jumping in a thread and confirming joksim's Bullsh*t. why would one do this? you could do your own maths but you didn't. hmmm why that?

my suspicion is that you are joksim and have a few more accounts here. we don't hide anything and I don't believe you that you are a customer of our app. we have only fine and decent customers and all are enjoying the game and our free promos and they are not shy to ask questions before they shoot into the dark

users like you are the reason that we will from now open self-moderated threads only
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

Well, this should be easy to figure out.  He wagered 0.0000005BTC and won 4BTC.  He had to hit a perfect 6/6 which should be [6/49 x 5/48 x 4/47 x 3/46 x 2/45 x 1/44] = 1/13983816.  So he will lose, on average, .0000005BTC 13983815 times and win 4BTC 1 time.  So he will lose 6.9919075BTC to win 4BTC.  So, if he wagers 6.991908BTC, he will walk away with 4BTC (on average).  So the house edge appears to be ~42.79%.  Please let me know if I screwed up any of the math and I'll of course correct it.

Thats the house edge after JPR cut, isnt it too high?

If my math is correct, that's the overall house edge.  If you bet 1BTC, you should expect to get back .5721BTC.  I have no clue how the .4279BTC that you lose is divided.

And yes, for me that is way too high.  I have played on the site a little in the past but I def won't now.  

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to include the smaller 4/6 and 5/6 payouts.  I included them in my original calculation post and came with a house edge of ~27.89%.  Please let me know if I omitted anything else and I'll revise my calculations.

Thats correct and up to date calculation, overall house edge of 27.89% is too high, users should consider it before playing.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1189
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

Well, this should be easy to figure out.  He wagered 0.0000005BTC and won 4BTC.  He had to hit a perfect 6/6 which should be [6/49 x 5/48 x 4/47 x 3/46 x 2/45 x 1/44] = 1/13983816.  So he will lose, on average, .0000005BTC 13983815 times and win 4BTC 1 time.  So he will lose 6.9919075BTC to win 4BTC.  So, if he wagers 6.991908BTC, he will walk away with 4BTC (on average).  So the house edge appears to be ~42.79%.  Please let me know if I screwed up any of the math and I'll of course correct it.

Thats the house edge after JPR cut, isnt it too high?

If my math is correct, that's the overall house edge.  If you bet 1BTC, you should expect to get back .5721BTC.  I have no clue how the .4279BTC that you lose is divided.

And yes, for me that is way too high.  I have played on the site a little in the past but I def won't now.  

EDIT: Sorry, I forgot to include the smaller 4/6 and 5/6 payouts.  I included them in my original calculation post and came with a house edge of ~27.89%.  Please let me know if I omitted anything else and I'll revise my calculations.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1104
looks promising but im a little confuse how to play it Undecided
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

Well, this should be easy to figure out.  He wagered 0.0000005BTC and won 4BTC.  He had to hit a perfect 6/6 which should be [6/49 x 5/48 x 4/47 x 3/46 x 2/45 x 1/44] = 1/13983816.  So he will lose, on average, .0000005BTC 13983815 times and win 4BTC 1 time.  So he will lose 6.9919075BTC to win 4BTC.  So, if he wagers 6.991908BTC, he will walk away with 4BTC (on average).  So the house edge appears to be ~42.79%.  Please let me know if I screwed up any of the math and I'll of course correct it.

Thats the house edge with JPR *fee included and 4/6 & 5/6 excluded
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1189
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

Well, this should be easy to figure out.  He wagered 0.0000005BTC and won 4BTC.  He had to hit a perfect 6/6 which should be [6/49 x 5/48 x 4/47 x 3/46 x 2/45 x 1/44] = 1/13983816.  So he will lose, on average, .0000005BTC 13983815 times and win 4BTC 1 time.  So he will lose 6.9919075BTC to win 4BTC.  So, if he wagers 6.991908BTC, he will walk away with 4BTC (on average).  So the house edge appears to be ~42.79%.  Please let me know if I screwed up any of the math and I'll of course correct it.

EDIT: Sorry, I neglected to factor in the 4/6 and 5/6 payouts.

4/6 on a 50sat bet pays out x125 = .0000625BTC
5/6 on a 50sat bet pays out x1500 = .00075BTC

You'll hit 4/6 in ~.096862% of your games.
You'll hit 5/6 in ~.001845% of your games.

So, in the 13983816 games you'll play, you will hit 4/6 ~13545 times.  Each time you'll get .0000625BTC, so that's .84656274087BTC.
In the 13983816 games you'll play, you will hit 5/6 ~258 times.  Each time you'll get .00075BTC, so that's .1935010539BTC.

So 4BTC + .84656274087BTC + .1935010539BTC = ~5.04BTC.  So you will wager 6.99BTC and get 5.04BTC returned, for a house edge of ~27.89%.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

it looks you want to get rid again of your signature like last time when you deleted your posting but it was to late Grin Grin Grin
I also would suggest that you go back to school and take some maths lessons again  Grin but I am sure it will not help because your brain is damaged

lets see how long your signature manager will let you run around with their signature. you are a crying shame.



You did not answer to my post regarding stealing of users.
That was funny.

why should I answer to a brainless creature  Grin Grin Grin I could talk to the walls and it would be the same. I am sure you will lose also this time your signature because you are only spamming in all threads we are posting. shame to you and your signature campaign manager

enjoy
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

it looks you want to get rid again of your signature like last time when you deleted your posting but it was to late Grin Grin Grin
I also would suggest that you go back to school and take some maths lessons again  Grin but I am sure it will not help because your brain is damaged

lets see how long your signature manager will let you run around with their signature. you are a crying shame.



You did not answer to my post regarding stealing of users.
That was funny.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.

it looks you want to get rid again of your signature like last time when you deleted your posting but it was to late Grin Grin Grin
I also would suggest that you go back to school and take some maths lessons again  Grin but I am sure it will not help because your brain is damaged

lets see how long your signature manager will let you run around with their signature. you are a crying shame.

legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe not all users are familiar with your terms so I will quote them here.
It looks like stealing from players.

At the top on house edge of 9.22% they will take additional 30% from your win.

Quote
Q.: How much do you pay out of 100%?
A.: We pay out approximate ~ 75 % (most lotteries are paying 40-60%)

For example winorgohome won 5.25BTC and he was paid only 4BTC and 0.5 was split among users so they put 0.75BTC into their pockets.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
200k away from 123 456 789
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Finally we have a winner Smiley

Congratulations to CASIO the Winner of our 2nd contest best out of 16

1st Prize of 0.008 goes to CASIO

2nd Prize of 0.002 goes to panjul07

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