Topic: Jack's Bitcoin Investing Service (Read 957 times)

My service has been having great success for it's first week but this thread isn't up to date anymore, please visit my new self moderated thread to get more details about my service with much more reasonable rates, I also can make custom deals. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jackolanterns-fund-weekly-compounding-interest-2124712

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Thanks for the advice.
Kind regards, Jackolantern.

Jack is the same
if you want cover loss, you need show right collateral.. like escrowed money

is advice, do as you wish, but without right collateral for loss, no one invest

This isn't a loan I'm taking, this is an investing service where I invest people's money smarter, more efficiently and with diversity.

Kind regards, Jackolantern.

i think good collateral is take some money, convert in bitcoin and give at escrower

and people can trust this program, for me is a best solution for assurance your work

sorry if i said this to you, my only behavior is help you

@bitbollo "My own funds"Meaning I have money in my personnal Bank Account, enough. I would never take a deposit if I can't cover up the losses. Also please keep in my that you can't lose 100% of what you invested while trading. And again, as I mentionned, TRADING isn't my primary investing asset. If you need any proof of my personnal Bank Account funds, please contact me in Private Messages, it would be a pleasure for me to show you.

edit1: I do appreciate the fact that you're asking questions, as it helps me improving the FAQ Section. Also as I already said multiple times, I don't trade often when investing, and if I do, it's because I see an opportunity. trading only taking 4-6% of my investing activities. If it can reassure you, I could allow the investor to chose or not if I can trade with their deposit or not, investing only on other assets, deeds, shares, stocks etc.

edit2:As I was just informed by some users, including you, I can't use my Bank Account Balance as "collateral", let me explain the following: I should never even have to put my own money into it. But if you look closely on the original thread, I take 0.78% of profit weekly for managing the funds and investments. This could serve to compensate any loss.


Concerning tax fees, look up the FAQ section, I think it's pretty clear.

If you have any other question, feel free to ask.
Kind regards, Jackolantern.

can you announce also your collateral? Personally I can't trust anyone if I don't see a collateral


Sorry Jack, but this is not good.
This is a public forum,next time open a self-monitored thread if you don't want read observation about your service.
As rules, everyone could reply in a topic, without censorship. So every one could make their own idea.

No one's is arguing anymore, but:
If you continue to talk about your funds to cover the loses, what are these funds?
Next, the tx fees problems is not only related to trading but with everything you want to do with btc.
Good luck again

Thanks for replying to my thread. My answer to this is that you should take a look at my FAQ Section, after answering someone's question I basically answered any question about fees, I think it's just natural that the investor pays the fees when depositing into my service as I promised to cover the fees when the investors would ask for withdrawals, I think the rate is fair, considering you only have to invest once, and you can withdraw multiple times (meaning I would cover more fees for the Investor after a long amount of time)

Concerning the rates I announced (important word), I might go above the quota, or under it, but if there is a huge loss, I have enough of my own funds to cover it. Remember this is still investing, it has risks. My service just minimizes the risks by investing on multiple assets, and a backup fund is even ready for any problems. (There is a max deposit/month(per investor) for a reason. I'll never accept a deposit if I can't cover it if something happens)

Hope I cleared everything up for you jambola2.
Kind regards, Jackolantern.

Thanks for your answer olubams.
To answer your question, everything is not about trading, I would say trading only takes 4-6% of what I'm investing on, if my trading would result in a loss, the other investments would make up for it, and if not, my backup fund will be able to handle it well.

Hope I cleared everything up for you as well, if any other questions, go ahead and feel free to ask.

@Bitbollo I would appreciate if you could stop arguing on this thread, please do so in private message with the other user, I'd like to keep this thread and replies as clean as possible without having to find a moderator to delete posts. But to answer you, no I am not a professional trader, but I do have about a year of experience in it, and if any loss as mentioned above, I have a backup fund. Also I won't be trading all the time, if I don't see any opportunities, I won't take them and focus on my other assets. As mentioned as well, trading only occupies 4-6% of all what I'm investing on.


Kind regards, Jackolantern.

olubams you're not new in this forum.
So you know how much people scam here (and this argument is absolutely not related to Jack!!!). I can't say nothing bad about him.
 
Perhaps for what I have seen here, it's perfectly normal not trust an user that ask 0,25 btc without any collateral mentioned (and with an account worth less 0,01 btc).

This is why I have reported "personally  I can trust more their service and not yours. "

I think should reasonable understand how this money are used and invested.

As posted by jambola2, tx fees are a SERIOUS issues for btc users. (for all USERS not only Jack).
Also slow tx are another issues, and here we're not addressing that in this topic (e.g. taking into account you make a tx with right time to deposit / withdraw ).

These are just "arguments"  , Jack is not a professional trader, and is really easy lose money running a service like this.

Bitbollo seems to be on the right track... Transaction fees eat too much at small investment amounts.
Assuming a transaction fee of 0.0005 when sending the BTC, even at a 0.1 BTC investment, you will be in the red after a one week investment.

Unless you expect people to deposit amounts above 0.1 BTC (despite you being relatively new to this), or deposit for extremely long periods of time, I can't see why this would be good.

And all of this doesn't even take into account the chance that you might not hit the promised rate....

I don't think there is a need for this at all. If you won't trust his service then go through with it but not coming to advertise another service just to press home your point. I am not speaking for OP as what I am after is what he use those funds for and how he intends to make that return no matter how small, he should do what he can afford and not scam anybod and also in a case where the trades you make result in a loss, how do you intend to make it up to you clients?.

Thank you.

Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

thank you for this explanation


Probably your rate now sounds more reasonable to me.
Good luck!

The amount I receive from you will be the amount that is going to show up in your receipt, for instance if you send me 0,005BTC and I only receive 0,0049BTC, only 0,0049BTCwill show up in your next receipt. But for investing them and moving them after that, I am the one covering the fees, you will only have to pay the fees from you to me. And when you're going to withdraw, I will cover the fees as well. I think it's fair and less complicated that way. Added to FAQ Section.

Yes, trading is also one of the investment I make.
Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

I don't want advertise any service, or blame yours. These arguments... are just ... math?!

I have other questions, about tx fees:
if you accept 0,005 btc as minimum, how you can address the tx fees? Some times around 0,001 btc ?
did you have already counted in your plan? and even who will pay?
If you "move" this btc you need to pay other 2 tx fees (go in - go out). If you don't ... you don't need any investment!

Last questions, about guarantee:
What if you can't cover back (like a big loss, a big dump on some of your trade)
You can cover by your self the funds? Any collaterals?

BTW feel free to not reply anymore, I hope you can earn good and that's it

PS: did you make trading or ...what ?!

@Bitbollo I understand the point you're making, keep in mind that my service offers a Weekly Compound, rebalancing everyone's balance weekly, re-investing their profit, I also provide weekly withdrawals, there's no 1-week, 1-month, 6-month or 1-year plans here, you're more free to do as you please and I am online nearly 24/7 to offer the best support. Thanks for replying to my thread and I hope I cleared all that up.

Saying "Even in your best scenario they make better profit" is considered trashing my service and advertising another on my thread, so please do not do that again.

Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

Even in your best scenario they make a better profit.
Personally I use their deposit option just to "park" some btc/altcoins, I don't use for long term / big amount.

They can stop (as TOS) their offer in any moment (but this means you don't lose your money, just you get back your investment + ROI).
Of course no one could get a sure ROI in long term prediction. Just speculation... For example they have closed LTC ROI (daily 0,2 %) to re-open @ 0,1 %.



Invest in multiple assets it's a good choice, but this not mean you can achieve a sure gain. You are just diversifying your investment, and if you choose wisely you can earn a good %. Even as stated before, the service that I have mentioned, it's just one of tens of similar services.
And this way to "invest" altcoins, is just one of other way to invest (diversifying) an investment...

I hope you can earn good with your service, but offering some offer to public is not easy at all.

The ROI Predictions present on my thread are near to the worst scenario like I answered another user earlier. If you'd like me to give you what I've personally gained in the last months, this is my average ROI:

March, April, May, June, July:
Daily: 0.145%
Weekly: 1.015%
Monthly: 4.06%
Yearly: 48.72%

Also, I'm really skeptical that yobit can provide the same ROI Percentage all the time, I offer more personal portfolios for investors. Investments sometimes make money, some of them lose money, especially investments on Stocks. You can't guarantee investments will make profit/large profit every year, but what you can do is invest in multiple assets to protect yourself against huge losses, wich I do. I offer diversity and safety, wich is pretty hard to do, and it consumes time.

I hope I cleared it up for you Bitbollo.
Kind Regards.




Please contact me via Private Message to discuss about my personal assets.
Kind Regards, Jackolantern.

It seems I misunderstood your investing service, It seems I misunderstood your portfolio, but you can tell me which casino site I will invest , I will not risk if I do not know about it.