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Topic: Jake Paul Vs Nate Diaz boxing Aug 5th on Dazn PPV - page 3. (Read 1721 times)

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Drake threw $250,000 on Nate Diaz to beat Jake Paul with 4 to 1 odds. I think he’s probably just hoping to get himself a million dollar payout and didn’t see much gain in betting on Jake Paul. While this does make me think maybe Jake isn’t the sure thing I think he is, it’s not enough to get me to follow him. I still say Jake wins by stoppage.

We all know that Drake loves to throw money on bets that usually doesn't make sense, because he has the capacity to just bet on whoever he likes at the bout. Jake is a decent boxer. Not particularly good, but can throw some decent punches and has a good stamina. If this fight goes the distance, he'd probably win against Nate. But if Jake couldn't really handle the punches Nate is throwing at him, this is a $1m payout for Drake. Stamina-wise, Jake is the better choice. Though in punching power and overall ability to create space and close it, Nate should do this quite easily.

Well in this case, for the first time I am routing for Drake, haha.
4:1 seems quite high for Nate Diaz, he is definitely able to beat JP. He just needs to watch out for the hard punches. If he controls the tempo and follows his game plan there is a good chance to be victorious.

I just hope it's not a rigged fight. With all these "exhibitions" you never know these days.

Jake Paul wins and beats Nate Diaz. I did not find the match live but watched the highlights here
Jake Paul vs. Nate Diaz - FullFight Highlights

Also, I don't think these exhibition matches are rigged because if we think that way, then all the excitement and fun of watching these matches will be gone.  Sad

It is certainly not rigged, however, Jake Paul knows which MMA fighters are ready to be his victims and to add in his list hehehe. I reckon that he will need another victim to build his name again before another fight vs. a real boxer. This will certainly bring back the hype on Jake Paul's side and similar to his loss to Tommy Fury, he might lose again vs. a real boxer hehehe. Old, retired MMA fighters and young, real boxers are different. It might be good to witness Jake Paul vs. Jorge Masvidal in boxing, however hehehe.
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But Jake says that his stamina is getting better as he has more fight. Obviously, his body is getting used to it. However, if he faces like a former boxer and not ex MMA, it could be a different story just like what happen to the Tommy Fury fight.

It is because he trains regularly. He isnt furry and fluffy kid in a gym anymore. In fact he is on a good level. He is not afraid to challenge more experienced guys. As to Tommy Fury, dont forget that Jake went full distance with him and managed to land few good punches. That is against a pro boxer. And lets not forget that Jake so far does not have a long amateur career like lots of professional boxers. If he had 30-50 amateur fights, like most professionals have, it would be a completely different fight against Tommy.

Jake Paul might have some talent but do we not overrate him? He challenges his more experienced guys, but not in the boxing field. His loss against Tommy Fury was a split decision, but Tommy Fury also only have 9 fights and 12 amateur fights. No discredit to Fury also as he is undefeated but also not really experienced; I would like to see Paul box against a real experienced boxer with a good record and then we can really talk.
On a side note: I saw the match of Logan Paul vs Seth Rollins live and that was a pretty good match, even though Paul has only done a couple of matches in the WWE.

I guess we can say that he is overrated if he keeps on fighting ex-MMA or ex-UFC fighters because it seems that he has a good records against them. But with a more experience boxer or even with with Tommy Fury got, he was able to beat Jake Paul.

So yeah, maybe next time if he can call out some ex-boxer then we can give him some credit. But for know it seems that he is staying away in facing that kind of opponents because he knows he will get smoke.
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But Jake says that his stamina is getting better as he has more fight. Obviously, his body is getting used to it. However, if he faces like a former boxer and not ex MMA, it could be a different story just like what happen to the Tommy Fury fight.

It is because he trains regularly. He isnt furry and fluffy kid in a gym anymore. In fact he is on a good level. He is not afraid to challenge more experienced guys. As to Tommy Fury, dont forget that Jake went full distance with him and managed to land few good punches. That is against a pro boxer. And lets not forget that Jake so far does not have a long amateur career like lots of professional boxers. If he had 30-50 amateur fights, like most professionals have, it would be a completely different fight against Tommy.

Jake Paul might have some talent but do we not overrate him? He challenges his more experienced guys, but not in the boxing field. His loss against Tommy Fury was a split decision, but Tommy Fury also only have 9 fights and 12 amateur fights. No discredit to Fury also as he is undefeated but also not really experienced; I would like to see Paul box against a real experienced boxer with a good record and then we can really talk.
On a side note: I saw the match of Logan Paul vs Seth Rollins live and that was a pretty good match, even though Paul has only done a couple of matches in the WWE.
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Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.
This is the silver lining that I see in these otherwise boring fights. If you have made a big name in the UFC but you were kicked out and you still want to make more money because you earned much less when you were there, it is an option to shift to boxing and fight some businessmen like the Paul brothers. You don't even need to know how to box like Nate. Aside from your name, you just have to appear very eager to break your opponent's face, throw those awkward punches, showboat a little, taunt your opponent, and that's it. You will make good money.
It would be advantageous for the UFC fighters not to renew their contract while they are a champ in their division because like Ngannou they may have a lose-lose contract from PFL that they can also do boxing while also having a MMA career in PFL. Nate is a retired fighter, he's lucky to have caught the attention of JP that Jake was interested to fight the legendary UFC fighters.

If Jake or the PFL will not be interested in a retired UFC fighter, it's the end of him so there's still a risk to this. Derrick Lewis seems to fall into this category.
This would be his best move for Lewis to make. There was Ngannou and Diaz both talking about PFL during this event of course.
Didn't you hear at the end of the fight with Diaz where they were discussing about having an MMA style fight next?
Paul wants it to be in the PFL where Ngannou is fighting so to not have Dana White and the UFC involved at all and since he has already retired from the UFC.

But Jake says that his stamina is getting better as he has more fight. Obviously, his body is getting used to it. However, if he faces like a former boxer and not ex MMA, it could be a different story just like what happen to the Tommy Fury fight.
It is because he trains regularly. He isnt furry and fluffy kid in a gym anymore. In fact he is on a good level. He is not afraid to challenge more experienced guys. As to Tommy Fury, dont forget that Jake went full distance with him and managed to land few good punches. That is against a pro boxer. And lets not forget that Jake so far does not have a long amateur career like lots of professional boxers. If he had 30-50 amateur fights, like most professionals have, it would be a completely different fight against Tommy.
Once he lost that match against Fury people really began thinking that is it he can't really beat a real boxer.
When he started knocking people out then the boxing legacy hardcore fans began to notice this guy is dedicated to their craft and not just some flash in the pan which will die away in a couple of years.
From the recent film on netflix which I just watched, the Paul brothers started this back in 2018 right?
So this has been going on for five years if not longer so I can see this going on until he has gone through the gambit of fighters and then their rematches as he has talked about against KSI then possibly his own brother Logan.
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While it is good that Anderson Silva and Nate Diaz got paydays, I’m not sure how much longer this influencer boxing thing has. Jake’s fights are getting less and less spectacular, and to be honest his last three fights haven’t been worth watching as we didn’t get to see the KO’s we were hoping for. I’m not sure if there’s even another big fight to be had. Andrew Tate or KSI maybe.

That would be an interesting fight because if he gonna challenge an ex-UFC fighter again, the result would be just obvious like before. now he really needs to fight some celebrities like him that can really fight for real that have the same popularity as him. I know there are lots of candidates out there but this guy always chooses to have some scripted fight. he already showed some great skills in his recent fight he really needs to show to the public that he is improving and can be one of the known boxers of his era.

Same results, specially against a celebrities that is not into sports. He beats a lot of former UFC fighter, who trains their life in that discipline, so what more if it is a celebrities that  doesn't have training experience.

So a rematch with Fury will be great, that fight has a lot of dramas and delay and Jake Paul portray as if Fury is afraid of him. But he was beaten soundly when they fought. Time for him to avenge that defeat and make another good story line so that fans are going to buy their tickets.
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Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.

This is the silver lining that I see in these otherwise boring fights. If you have made a big name in the UFC but you were kicked out and you still want to make more money because you earned much less when you were there, it is an option to shift to boxing and fight some businessmen like the Paul brothers. You don't even need to know how to box like Nate. Aside from your name, you just have to appear very eager to break your opponent's face, throw those awkward punches, showboat a little, taunt your opponent, and that's it. You will make good money.

Still, it's a business for the both of them and it will all be good if there will be some people that will watch the fight, doesn't matter if the results were already predetermined even before the fight, like in this bout. Nate is a grappler and not those kind of UFC stars which pack a good power in their punches, and so that is his downside that is why his chances were never that great against Jake Paul who already knows a thing or two about the sports.

Aside from that, transitioning from boxing to MMA or MMA to boxing will just be a one-time thing specially if they lost their debut because people will not be interested in the same participants anymore as they already see their limits.
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While it is good that Anderson Silva and Nate Diaz got paydays, I’m not sure how much longer this influencer boxing thing has. Jake’s fights are getting less and less spectacular, and to be honest his last three fights haven’t been worth watching as we didn’t get to see the KO’s we were hoping for. I’m not sure if there’s even another big fight to be had. Andrew Tate or KSI maybe.

That would be an interesting fight because if he gonna challenge an ex-UFC fighter again, the result would be just obvious like before. now he really needs to fight some celebrities like him that can really fight for real that have the same popularity as him. I know there are lots of candidates out there but this guy always chooses to have some scripted fight. he already showed some great skills in his recent fight he really needs to show to the public that he is improving and can be one of the known boxers of his era.
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But Jake says that his stamina is getting better as he has more fight. Obviously, his body is getting used to it. However, if he faces like a former boxer and not ex MMA, it could be a different story just like what happen to the Tommy Fury fight.

It is because he trains regularly. He isnt furry and fluffy kid in a gym anymore. In fact he is on a good level. He is not afraid to challenge more experienced guys. As to Tommy Fury, dont forget that Jake went full distance with him and managed to land few good punches. That is against a pro boxer. And lets not forget that Jake so far does not have a long amateur career like lots of professional boxers. If he had 30-50 amateur fights, like most professionals have, it would be a completely different fight against Tommy.

He just wanted to be a pure boxer, that's it, and making this exhibitions fight, makes his dream come true. So he trains as full pledge boxer and with that, he trains regularly and then improved everything. Not sure though if he is natural or not (but that is for another discussion).

As for as his next options goes, I like the rematch with Fury, for sure there is no love lost between the two and Jake wanted to avenge his lost. And next maybe KSI, another Youtuber if I'm not mistaken who started to come and be in this exhibition matches. In any case, both of this fights will bring millions again on the pocket of Jake Paul making him one of the best money maker in the last couple of years.
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But Jake says that his stamina is getting better as he has more fight. Obviously, his body is getting used to it. However, if he faces like a former boxer and not ex MMA, it could be a different story just like what happen to the Tommy Fury fight.

It is because he trains regularly. He isnt furry and fluffy kid in a gym anymore. In fact he is on a good level. He is not afraid to challenge more experienced guys. As to Tommy Fury, dont forget that Jake went full distance with him and managed to land few good punches. That is against a pro boxer. And lets not forget that Jake so far does not have a long amateur career like lots of professional boxers. If he had 30-50 amateur fights, like most professionals have, it would be a completely different fight against Tommy.

Jake also managed to knock down Fury, and the decision was close as it's a split decision. So, in order to see a more entertaining and unpredictable fight outcome, I think both need to have a rematch. Who knows, Jake would be able to win the rematch, and then I'm sure a trilogy will result in more excitement, which is beneficial for both since it will attract more money.

What's next for Jake Paul?

According to the article below, the names that came out are;
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Tommy Fury rematch, KSI, MMA fight options for YouTuber following Nate Diaz boxing fight...

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/jake-paul-tommy-fury-rematch-ksi-mma-youtuber-nate-diaz/yl2ijmsrtugvf5rhogryuemg
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But Jake says that his stamina is getting better as he has more fight. Obviously, his body is getting used to it. However, if he faces like a former boxer and not ex MMA, it could be a different story just like what happen to the Tommy Fury fight.

It is because he trains regularly. He isnt furry and fluffy kid in a gym anymore. In fact he is on a good level. He is not afraid to challenge more experienced guys. As to Tommy Fury, dont forget that Jake went full distance with him and managed to land few good punches. That is against a pro boxer. And lets not forget that Jake so far does not have a long amateur career like lots of professional boxers. If he had 30-50 amateur fights, like most professionals have, it would be a completely different fight against Tommy.
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But Jake says that his stamina is getting better as he has more fight. Obviously, his body is getting used to it. However, if he faces like a former boxer and not ex MMA, it could be a different story just like what happen to the Tommy Fury fight.

And on the other hand, Nate Diaz says that he loves another crack of this exhibitions match.

Admit it or not, he did good against Paul and then the smell of money could entice Nate to comeback and fight again in Paul's platform, who knows.

He did well in surviving, but it was a one-sided beatdown. What would the fans expect in a rematch? Of course, they will think that Jake Paul will win again easily, and that is not fun to watch anymore. So I guess maybe it's time for Jake Paul now to fight a former boxer that could potentially give him a problem, maybe an old boxer but a popular one back in the days, as that is another good recipe for easy money while Jake Paul's health will be secured.

I think there's still plenty of time; we might see him fight again this year, and we all know that once Jake announces a fight, he will always make sure that it will attract the attention of the fans. How about Jake Paul vs Mayweather? Is it possible?
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Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.

This is the silver lining that I see in these otherwise boring fights. If you have made a big name in the UFC but you were kicked out and you still want to make more money because you earned much less when you were there, it is an option to shift to boxing and fight some businessmen like the Paul brothers. You don't even need to know how to box like Nate. Aside from your name, you just have to appear very eager to break your opponent's face, throw those awkward punches, showboat a little, taunt your opponent, and that's it. You will make good money.

While it is good that Anderson Silva and Nate Diaz got paydays, I’m not sure how much longer this influencer boxing thing has. Jake’s fights are getting less and less spectacular, and to be honest his last three fights haven’t been worth watching as we didn’t get to see the KO’s we were hoping for. I’m not sure if there’s even another big fight to be had. Andrew Tate or KSI maybe.

There will always be big names who are willing to shame themselves for a significant paycheck. Diaz was all too willing to look like a prep who was just more of slapping than boxing for half a million dollars.

Jake's fights were never really amazing. Of course he can throw a punch, and sometimes he knocks out his old opponents who are also not really boxers themselves. But the level of promotion looks way too high for this kind of matches. But what can we do right? There are many fans who love this kind of thing.

KSI could be next if he won his fight against Fury. Tate is still under house arrest so not a possibility.

But Jake says that his stamina is getting better as he has more fight. Obviously, his body is getting used to it. However, if he faces like a former boxer and not ex MMA, it could be a different story just like what happen to the Tommy Fury fight.

And on the other hand, Nate Diaz says that he loves another crack of this exhibitions match.

Admit it or not, he did good against Paul and then the smell of money could entice Nate to comeback and fight again in Paul's platform, who knows.
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Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.

This is the silver lining that I see in these otherwise boring fights. If you have made a big name in the UFC but you were kicked out and you still want to make more money because you earned much less when you were there, it is an option to shift to boxing and fight some businessmen like the Paul brothers. You don't even need to know how to box like Nate. Aside from your name, you just have to appear very eager to break your opponent's face, throw those awkward punches, showboat a little, taunt your opponent, and that's it. You will make good money.

While it is good that Anderson Silva and Nate Diaz got paydays, I’m not sure how much longer this influencer boxing thing has. Jake’s fights are getting less and less spectacular, and to be honest his last three fights haven’t been worth watching as we didn’t get to see the KO’s we were hoping for. I’m not sure if there’s even another big fight to be had. Andrew Tate or KSI maybe.

There will always be big names who are willing to shame themselves for a significant paycheck. Diaz was all too willing to look like a prep who was just more of slapping than boxing for half a million dollars.

Jake's fights were never really amazing. Of course he can throw a punch, and sometimes he knocks out his old opponents who are also not really boxers themselves. But the level of promotion looks way too high for this kind of matches. But what can we do right? There are many fans who love this kind of thing.

KSI could be next if he won his fight against Fury. Tate is still under house arrest so not a possibility.
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Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.

This is the silver lining that I see in these otherwise boring fights. If you have made a big name in the UFC but you were kicked out and you still want to make more money because you earned much less when you were there, it is an option to shift to boxing and fight some businessmen like the Paul brothers. You don't even need to know how to box like Nate. Aside from your name, you just have to appear very eager to break your opponent's face, throw those awkward punches, showboat a little, taunt your opponent, and that's it. You will make good money.

It would be advantageous for the UFC fighters not to renew their contract while they are a champ in their division because like Ngannou they may have a lose-lose contract from PFL that they can also do boxing while also having a MMA career in PFL. Nate is a retired fighter, he's lucky to have caught the attention of JP that Jake was interested to fight the legendary UFC fighters.

If Jake or the PFL will not be interested in a retired UFC fighter, it's the end of him so there's still a risk to this. Derrick Lewis seems to fall into this category.
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Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.

This is the silver lining that I see in these otherwise boring fights. If you have made a big name in the UFC but you were kicked out and you still want to make more money because you earned much less when you were there, it is an option to shift to boxing and fight some businessmen like the Paul brothers. You don't even need to know how to box like Nate. Aside from your name, you just have to appear very eager to break your opponent's face, throw those awkward punches, showboat a little, taunt your opponent, and that's it. You will make good money.

While it is good that Anderson Silva and Nate Diaz got paydays, I’m not sure how much longer this influencer boxing thing has. Jake’s fights are getting less and less spectacular, and to be honest his last three fights haven’t been worth watching as we didn’t get to see the KO’s we were hoping for. I’m not sure if there’s even another big fight to be had. Andrew Tate or KSI maybe.
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Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.

This is the silver lining that I see in these otherwise boring fights. If you have made a big name in the UFC but you were kicked out and you still want to make more money because you earned much less when you were there, it is an option to shift to boxing and fight some businessmen like the Paul brothers. You don't even need to know how to box like Nate. Aside from your name, you just have to appear very eager to break your opponent's face, throw those awkward punches, showboat a little, taunt your opponent, and that's it. You will make good money.
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If Jake transitioned into MMA, he'd be surprised on how well even the leanest fighters can hold and grapple against huge guys. I've seen Asian guys grappled the hell out of muscular men lots of times to the point of submission, and Jake would not be ready to be in that field unless he dedicates the next year or so of his life in purely practicing grappling and getting out of it.

That's a different field for Jake Paul; he'll not excel in kickboxing as what he trained well is on boxing. If we have noticed, he is also very keen on choosing his opponents, that's why he maintains a good record. So it's a big risk for him if he'll go for UFC where he does not have the advantage.

It's enough that we witnessed Jake Paul from being a social media influencer to now a pro boxer, and we have enjoyed most of his fights if not all.

Just imagine, when a popular fighter retires or stops in UFC because of injury or they are aging, they still have another opportunity to make big money in boxing. The good news is that they can even make bigger money compared to what they earn in UFC.
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Drake threw $250,000 on Nate Diaz to beat Jake Paul with 4 to 1 odds. I think he’s probably just hoping to get himself a million dollar payout and didn’t see much gain in betting on Jake Paul. While this does make me think maybe Jake isn’t the sure thing I think he is, it’s not enough to get me to follow him. I still say Jake wins by stoppage.

We all know that Drake loves to throw money on bets that usually doesn't make sense, because he has the capacity to just bet on whoever he likes at the bout. Jake is a decent boxer. Not particularly good, but can throw some decent punches and has a good stamina. If this fight goes the distance, he'd probably win against Nate. But if Jake couldn't really handle the punches Nate is throwing at him, this is a $1m payout for Drake. Stamina-wise, Jake is the better choice. Though in punching power and overall ability to create space and close it, Nate should do this quite easily.

Well in this case, for the first time I am routing for Drake, haha.
4:1 seems quite high for Nate Diaz, he is definitely able to beat JP. He just needs to watch out for the hard punches. If he controls the tempo and follows his game plan there is a good chance to be victorious.

I just hope it's not a rigged fight. With all these "exhibitions" you never know these days.

Seems like it is. There doesn't seem to be any indication that Nate tried to win. Nevertheless, two different fighting disciplines, two different techniques. Jake is the better boxer, but that doesn't mean he's the better fighter. Unanimous decision means that Nate is ready to take the hits, and he's just not really that trained so much in boxing.

I feel sorry for Drake, but what's $250,000 for a multi-millionaire anyway?

Much longer fight than I expected and maybe this was strategy used by both fighters.
Now I see Jake Paul saying he seriously wants to transition to MMA, and Nate Diaz is asking for MMA rematch.
This sounds to me like to much coincidence, but I would give advantage to Nate Diaz in potential MMA fight.
After thar I think it is time for him to finally retire, he is getting older, his face is already ruined, and I wont say anything about his brain.

Nate will have an edge if Jake Paul agrees to an MMA match he has Juijitsu and grappling skills something that will surprise Jake, its better if Jake agrees to do an MMA once so he'll know if he has a chance in MMA against a real MMA fighter people will soon get enough to see him fight old MMA fighters, he'll have to do transition to other combat sports or starts fighting real boxers, he is getting better in boxing we may soon find him in the top 10.

If Jake transitioned into MMA, he'd be surprised on how well even the leanest fighters can hold and grapple against huge guys. I've seen Asian guys grappled the hell out of muscular men lots of times to the point of submission, and Jake would not be ready to be in that field unless he dedicates the next year or so of his life in purely practicing grappling and getting out of it.
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Much longer fight than I expected and maybe this was strategy used by both fighters.
Now I see Jake Paul saying he seriously wants to transition to MMA, and Nate Diaz is asking for MMA rematch.
This sounds to me like to much coincidence, but I would give advantage to Nate Diaz in potential MMA fight.
After thar I think it is time for him to finally retire, he is getting older, his face is already ruined, and I wont say anything about his brain.

Nate will have an edge if Jake Paul agrees to an MMA match he has Juijitsu and grappling skills something that will surprise Jake, its better if Jake agrees to do an MMA once so he'll know if he has a chance in MMA against a real MMA fighter people will soon get enough to see him fight old MMA fighters, he'll have to do transition to other combat sports or starts fighting real boxers, he is getting better in boxing we may soon find him in the top 10.

i agree that before he fights with nate via MMA route, he needs to fight first a lesser known MMA fighter to gauge where he is at MMA arena. he may have beaten Nate in boxing, but with MMA rules, he might find it difficult.
but anyway, Paul's win over Nate will give him more confidence to look for other fighters, because for sure when he lost to Fury, it gave a setback on his career. hence, his determination to win on this recent match.
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Much longer fight than I expected and maybe this was strategy used by both fighters.
Now I see Jake Paul saying he seriously wants to transition to MMA, and Nate Diaz is asking for MMA rematch.
This sounds to me like to much coincidence, but I would give advantage to Nate Diaz in potential MMA fight.
After thar I think it is time for him to finally retire, he is getting older, his face is already ruined, and I wont say anything about his brain.

Nate will have an edge if Jake Paul agrees to an MMA match he has Juijitsu and grappling skills something that will surprise Jake, its better if Jake agrees to do an MMA once so he'll know if he has a chance in MMA against a real MMA fighter people will soon get enough to see him fight old MMA fighters, he'll have to do transition to other combat sports or starts fighting real boxers, he is getting better in boxing we may soon find him in the top 10.
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