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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 28, 2012, 07:37:07 AM

Quote from: zebedee on August 28, 2012, 07:28:21 AM

Sorry but I don't see that this supports your claims at all.

I can't currently go into all the details, but my math and screen shots are correct.
The screenshot only shows 10% of each deposit. $100 x 10 = $1000 (~100000 yen) minimum deposit.

If you don't want to believe me that is fine, but I think my past bitcoin reputation speaks for itself.

Feel free to google (Roger Ver Bitcoin) and you will find plenty of background.

Roger Ver is Satoshi so you can believe him Wink

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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 28, 2012, 07:37:07 AM

Quote from: zebedee on August 28, 2012, 07:28:21 AM

Sorry but I don't see that this supports your claims at all.

I can't currently go into all the details, but my math and screen shots are correct.
The screenshot only shows 10% of each deposit. $100 x 10 = $1000 (~100000 yen) minimum deposit.

Then there's only one way I can see how what you posted makes any sense.

And in that case my reactions are

a) sheesh, no wonder you're being cagey, and
b) posting it at all wasn't a smart move and an error of judgement

I hope I'm wrong.

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Quote from: zebedee on August 28, 2012, 07:28:21 AM

Sorry but I don't see that this supports your claims at all.

I can't currently go into all the details, but my math and screen shots are correct.
The screenshot only shows 10% of each deposit. $100 x 10 = $1000 (~100000 yen) minimum deposit.

If you don't want to believe me that is fine, but I think my past bitcoin reputation speaks for itself.

Feel free to google (Roger Ver Bitcoin) and you will find plenty of background.

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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 27, 2012, 08:40:37 AM

Quote from: zebedee on August 27, 2012, 08:05:49 AM

Roger - I support your efforts, but I don't think you're responsible for as much activity as you claim (though I'm sure you're responsible for some of the activity).

Here is %100 proof of how I know what the seminars are responsible for:

The above image shows deposit records from people who heard about Bitcoin through the seminars.
Each user must deposit a minimum of 100000 yen. (They often deposit more than that)
So far there have been 237 deposits through the seminars starting August 9th,
The absolute minimum amount this could be is 23,700,000 yen (~$301,000 USD) but in reality it is a bit more than this because people often deposit more than 100,000 yen at a time.

This is just the beginning......

Hmm maybe I misunderstand, but you say the minimum is 100k but everything in your screenshot is less than that? They're only just over 100 USD each. Something is very wrong with the arithmetic. Perhaps divide by ten?

And the date is yesterday, not the high volume days cited, and only shows transfers not purchases? Sorry but I don't see that this supports your claims at all.

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Quote from: World on August 14, 2012, 11:26:43 AM

Maybe it's just because this video conference? Shocked

twitter ‏@rogerkver
I just presented Bitcoin to over 150 business people in Japan via skype for over an hour.
http://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/233164241799098368/photo/1

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Quote from: istar on August 27, 2012, 09:19:54 AM

Did you get my message?

I replied to your very interesting PM several hours ago.
I look forward to working with you in regards to it.
Feel free to email me directly at any time roger at memorydealers.com

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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 27, 2012, 08:52:20 AM

Quote from: cypherdoc on August 27, 2012, 08:44:47 AM

is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?

Sorry, but the exact details are still a bit private, but I hope everyone can now believe me when I say I know to the last yen exactly what the seminars are responsible for.

So most Japanese people are not opening mt.gox accounts for themselves but going through you (and other people)?
Wouldn't it make sense for mtgox to be available in more than one language?

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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 27, 2012, 08:52:20 AM

Quote from: cypherdoc on August 27, 2012, 08:44:47 AM

is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?

Sorry, but the exact details are still a bit private, but I hope everyone can now believe me when I say I know to the last yen exactly what the seminars are responsible for.

Did you get my message?

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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 27, 2012, 08:52:20 AM

Quote from: cypherdoc on August 27, 2012, 08:44:47 AM

is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?

Sorry, but the exact details are still a bit private, but I hope everyone can now believe me when I say I know to the last yen exactly what the seminars are responsible for.

actually i believed you and thought from the beginning this would be your metric of success. i know you have a close relationship with Mark and this new push in Japan is long overdue and i'm sure Mark will help monitor its success. good job again.

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Quote from: cypherdoc on August 27, 2012, 08:44:47 AM

is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?

Sorry, but the exact details are still a bit private, but I hope everyone can now believe me when I say I know to the last yen exactly what the seminars are responsible for.

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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 27, 2012, 08:40:37 AM

Quote from: zebedee on August 27, 2012, 08:05:49 AM

Roger - I support your efforts, but I don't think you're responsible for as much activity as you claim (though I'm sure you're responsible for some of the activity).

Here is %100 proof of how I know what the seminars are responsible for:

The above image shows deposit records from people who heard about Bitcoin through the seminars.
Each user must deposit a minimum of 100000 yen. (They often deposit more than that)
So far there have been 237 deposits through the seminars starting August 9th,
The absolute minimum amount this could be is 23,700,000 yen (~$301,000 USD) but in reality it is a bit more than this because people often deposit more than 100,000 yen at a time.

This is just the beginning......

is that an acct from mtgox and who's is it?

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Quote from: zebedee on August 27, 2012, 08:05:49 AM

Roger - I support your efforts, but I don't think you're responsible for as much activity as you claim (though I'm sure you're responsible for some of the activity).

Here is %100 proof of how I know what the seminars are responsible for:

The above image shows deposit records from people who heard about Bitcoin through the seminars.
Each user must deposit a minimum of 100000 yen. (They often deposit more than that)
So far there have been 237 deposits through the seminars starting August 9th,
The absolute minimum amount this could be is 23,700,000 yen (~$301,000 USD) but in reality it is a bit more than this because people often deposit more than 100,000 yen at a time.

This is just the beginning......

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Quote from: jim618 on August 27, 2012, 07:33:51 AM

There has been a flurry of Japanese localisation work for MultiBit recently - no doubt prompted by this thread.
As I type it is 44% done - have a look at the screenshot below:

A big "ありがとう" to everybody who has contributed to the localisation effort.

I've done some but I'd need to be used to the client to do more, as I don't understand the context well enough to be sure.

I will give it some more time later in the week if I have the time.

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Quote from: jim618 on August 27, 2012, 07:33:51 AM

There has been a flurry of Japanese localisation work for MultiBit recently - no doubt prompted by this thread.
As I type it is 44% done - have a look at the screenshot below:

These translation texts will appear in the next release (v0.4.8 ) which I am just working on the test and QA now.

A big "ありがとう" to everybody who has contributed to the localisation effort.

If it was what was done 2 days ago, that was me. I've not found the time since, but I will.

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The price is climbing nicely now too, maybe these Japanese early adopters are going to make a lot of money...

-MarkM-

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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 26, 2012, 10:21:32 AM

I just spent my evening presenting Bitcoin to about 50 more Japanese business people in Sapporo. (A city in the northern most island)
I also installed the Blockchain and Bitcoinspinner apps on all their smart phones and gave each of them their first 0.05 bitcoin.
I'm sure the majority of them will be buying their own bitcoin soon.
I am also sure that because of the efforts I am involved with in Japan, the Japanese have bought more than 25,000,000 JPY (~$317,000 USD) worth of bitcoins in the last few weeks and that it is just the beginning.
Unfortunately I currently can't provide the exact details as to how I know the exact amount, but I am sure this is just a small fraction of what is to come.

Roger - I support your efforts, but I don't think you're responsible for as much activity as you claim (though I'm sure you're responsible for some of the activity).

How do I know? Because I know what I'm responsible for (directly + indirectly) and you've claimed some of it. Moreover, I'm sure this is more than a 2-player market.

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There has been a flurry of Japanese localisation work for MultiBit recently - no doubt prompted by this thread.
As I type it is 44% done - have a look at the screenshot below:

These translation texts will appear in the next release (v0.4.8 ) which ~~I am just working on the test and QA now.~~ is available at the multibit.org website.

A big "ありがとう" to everybody who has contributed to the localisation effort.

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Quote from: Kupsi on August 26, 2012, 05:03:00 PM

Quote from: dissipate on August 26, 2012, 04:20:53 PM

Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 26, 2012, 10:52:14 AM

I'm careful to explain that in several years, one bitcoin will likely be worth a lot of money or nothing at all, and almost certainly not what they are worth today.

Oh no! You didn't fall for the 'all or nothing' fallacy, did you? Discussion on that here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-all-or-nothing-fallacy-99689

A lot of money is not all.

True, I guess we could call it "going big or going bust" fallacy.

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9.9.2012: I predict that single digits... <- FAIL

Quote from: dissipate on August 26, 2012, 04:20:53 PM

Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 26, 2012, 10:52:14 AM

I'm careful to explain that in several years, one bitcoin will likely be worth a lot of money or nothing at all, and almost certainly not what they are worth today.

Oh no! You didn't fall for the 'all or nothing' fallacy, did you? Discussion on that here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-all-or-nothing-fallacy-99689

A lot of money is not all.

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Quote from: MemoryDealers on August 26, 2012, 10:52:14 AM

I'm careful to explain that in several years, one bitcoin will likely be worth a lot of money or nothing at all, and almost certainly not what they are worth today.

Oh no! You didn't fall for the 'all or nothing' fallacy, did you? Discussion on that here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-all-or-nothing-fallacy-99689

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