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GROW THROUGH, WHAT YOU GO THROUGH
One thing I learned years ago, it is a big mistake to think about these people in  terms of "if I were them", because they are not like you. Many of them are physically incapable of empathy, and many enjoy creating suffering for others. They only qualify as human on the most technical physical levels. Monsters are real, they just hide in board rooms, parliament, and in Hollywood among other places in stead of under your bed.

It sounds like an, great teaching from an elite man.

Monsters really exits, one is mentioned in the OP.
legendary
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.... they are not like you. Many of them are physically incapable of empathy, and many enjoy creating suffering for others. They only qualify as human on the most technical physical levels. Monsters are real, they just hide in board rooms, parliament, and in Hollywood among other places in stead of under your bed.

Yes, Evil Exists.
legendary
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You seem focused on a small group of those likely to be implicated. I used the word powerful for good reason. The purpose of these large scale trafficking rings is primarily the creation of blackmail material on powerful people in all sectors in order to maintain compliance. This is much bigger than low level thugs like the Clintons. This is something that reaches to the highest levels of organizations globally and people are just barely beginning to realize it.

I prefer to be optimist ! I don't believe it's that wide spread. I do think that the clintons are among the highest level. I mean those people are pretty sick... their victims are children... I mean, something isn't right in their mind... who want to work or even conspire with such deviants individuals?

I think it's compliance, trust building and rewards...

Think about this for 2 seconds. Once you have this material on an individual in a position of power, you now own a puppet for life. They will destroy their own careers on your command because to refuse means getting raped to death in a prison cell and losing everything (if they are lucky). This is beyond trust, this is how the international level mafia controls its assets without having to trust them. This 100% is bigger than the Clintons. I know it is horrible to even imagine, but that is how these people have existed for so long, because it is so horrible no one wants to look at or think about it, let alone talk about it.

One thing I learned years ago, it is a big mistake to think about these people in  terms of "if I were them", because they are not like you. Many of them are physically incapable of empathy, and many enjoy creating suffering for others. They only qualify as human on the most technical physical levels. Monsters are real, they just hide in board rooms, parliament, and in Hollywood among other places in stead of under your bed.
legendary
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ffs

You seem focused on a small group of those likely to be implicated. I used the word powerful for good reason. The purpose of these large scale trafficking rings is primarily the creation of blackmail material on powerful people in all sectors in order to maintain compliance. This is much bigger than low level thugs like the Clintons. This is something that reaches to the highest levels of organizations globally and people are just barely beginning to realize it.

It's interesting at least to me, that nobody has ever explained where Epstein got his billions. You hear vague phrases like "Oh, he was a hedge fund manager <>

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I'm surprised with whole "Littlefinger brothel" approach he had. Usually we just hear about these sort of people as molesting minors but this one not only facilitated abuse (and likely earned a bit on the side, whether in money or in favors) but also leveraged the act via blackmail.
legendary
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ffs

You seem focused on a small group of those likely to be implicated. I used the word powerful for good reason. The purpose of these large scale trafficking rings is primarily the creation of blackmail material on powerful people in all sectors in order to maintain compliance. This is much bigger than low level thugs like the Clintons. This is something that reaches to the highest levels of organizations globally and people are just barely beginning to realize it.



"Jeffrey Epstein Offers To Give Up Names In Exchange For Leniency: Report"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-08/epstein-indictment-unsealed-accused-sexual-exploitation-and-abuse-dozens-minor
legendary
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Well yes, without a doubt. Kinda forgot that this wasn't on the US mainland and that prosecutors probably wouldn't be so happy to go after a guy like this.

But in a perfect world, where the prosecution is blindfolded when picking cases (instead of thinking about the chance of winning and their careers) -- this would be something that they would go after people for statutory rape. You're without a doubt right on the blackmail portion of it though, but this wouldn't be true for the people that he isn't blackmailing.

I don't buy that, here is why.

There is no act to blackmailing, except the threat. The fact that some others went there and were blackmailed is the threat.

Anyone who looks at this and doesn't see the core evil is the trafficker is nuts.

Sure, there are some people who would eliminate prostitution, and use this to incite fear factors. "Look what could happen to you!!!"

This is the problem with "statutory" definitions of crime, they can be gamed and exploited.


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He'll probably die before he says anything. Maybe even suicide with two bullets into the back of the brain if ya know what I mean.
I was kind of hoping for suicide by bullet to the brain, with the second bullet to the heart. It's been diagnosed by coroners that way before, why not again.
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
Finally, Jeffrey Epstein may be brought to justice for sex trafficking of minors.....

police alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls with other prominent people, which he had been using to blackmail other celebrities and big whigs. ....

That's pretty disgusting, I have only one question.

From time to time we see a media blurb about "XYZ went with Epstein on his Lolita Express..."

Is it probable that the guilty one here is Epstein, not those who went with him? That Epstein knew the girls were underage, but the "customers" did not?

In most states, the crime of having any sort of sexual contact with an underage girl is a statutory crime. Which pretty much means that if you violate it, you're going to have to face the consequences -- and you wouldn't be able to use the defense of -- " I didn't know" or "She looked 18 though" or even "She lied to me about her age"

So both would be guilty in this case.

Not sure in part about that. Here's why.

Epstein was taking girls to the island. --> "Trafficking." That's a US crime in the states he got the girls in.

People go to the island and have sex. --> "statuary rape" on the island in question "Little St. James Island", for which the age of consent is 18.

Prosecution would have to be there, not on the US mainland. If I ever heard of a case a prosecutor should decline to prosecute, statutory rape entrapment for purposes of blackmail qualifies. On the US mainland, this is affected by the politics of each state and who those running each state wants to destroy.

Here it's not the US mainland.

But who knows.


Well yes, without a doubt. Kinda forgot that this wasn't on the US mainland and that prosecutors probably wouldn't be so happy to go after a guy like this.

But in a perfect world, where the prosecution is blindfolded when picking cases (instead of thinking about the chance of winning and their careers) -- this would be something that they would go after people for statutory rape. You're without a doubt right on the blackmail portion of it though, but this wouldn't be true for the people that he isn't blackmailing.

Epstein has dirt on a lot of very powerful people. This is quite an important event. The chances of him flipping or being shanked are pretty high, but he probably is well secured, law enforcement knowing what he knows. He could end up taking down a lot of well known faces.

He'll probably die before he says anything. Maybe even suicide with two bullets into the back of the brain if ya know what I mean.
legendary
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.... I think it likely that the _minimum_ level of degeneracy qualifying candidates for big-league political office in 'Western Democracies' (which all happen to have Rothschild Central Banks so I hear) is that they will engage in non-lethal sex with pre-pubescents on camera. ....

Of all of your mad conspiracy rants, that one I actually like...

After which I assume the Candidates get some sort of card indicating "Qualifications Complete."


In the 1940's in the aftermath of WW-II the qualification cards were generated and curated in the offices of the ADL (Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith) according to the review of this book from the 1950's.  That is to say, what American citizens were authorized to hold what positions in the American government:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGND_IS1ApY

That's the same ADL who is making great progress in defining 'antisemitism' as speaking agains Zionism, and getting 'antisemitism' (and thus criticism of Zionism) criminalized here in the so-called 'land of the free.'

Back in the late 40's technology was such that these were genuine physical rather than 'virtual' cards and they had to be distributed to state department branch offices (while the dossiers were, presumably, stored securely in the offices of the ADL or some parent organization.)  That was a problem that technology has now solved.

EDIT:  The part about the ADL putting blacklist cards into the civil service administration starts around 34:00.

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Immediately following a major war is a great time to make changes.  A major reason why is that governments go into debt, and over the last two or three centuries they go into debt to private central banks most usually.

If a banker funds both sides of a conflict he wins no matter who wins the war.  In a general way the winner pays him interest and the loser pays him reparations, though there are overlaps.

This, like most aspects of monetary science, are rigorously avoided in 'educational systems.'  Gee, I wonder why???

Anyway, even if we cannot talk about it on Jewtube, twatter, facefuck, etc, etc, we can still mention it on Bitcointalk...for a while anyway.  It is a platform dedicated to the discussion of an instrument of financial science after all.

legendary
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Epstein has dirt on a lot of very powerful people. This is quite an important event. The chances of him flipping or being shanked are pretty high, but he probably is well secured, law enforcement knowing what he knows. He could end up taking down a lot of well known faces.
legendary
Activity: 2926
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Finally, Jeffrey Epstein may be brought to justice for sex trafficking of minors.....

police alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls with other prominent people, which he had been using to blackmail other celebrities and big whigs. ....

That's pretty disgusting, I have only one question.

From time to time we see a media blurb about "XYZ went with Epstein on his Lolita Express..."

Is it probable that the guilty one here is Epstein, not those who went with him? That Epstein knew the girls were underage, but the "customers" did not?

In most states, the crime of having any sort of sexual contact with an underage girl is a statutory crime. Which pretty much means that if you violate it, you're going to have to face the consequences -- and you wouldn't be able to use the defense of -- " I didn't know" or "She looked 18 though" or even "She lied to me about her age"

So both would be guilty in this case.

Not sure in part about that. Here's why.

Epstein was taking girls to the island. --> "Trafficking." That's a US crime in the states he got the girls in.

People go to the island and have sex. --> "statuary rape" on the island in question "Little St. James Island", for which the age of consent is 18.

Prosecution would have to be there, not on the US mainland. If I ever heard of a case a prosecutor should decline to prosecute, statutory rape entrapment for purposes of blackmail qualifies. On the US mainland, this is affected by the politics of each state and who those running each state wants to destroy.

Here it's not the US mainland.

But who knows.




.... I think it likely that the _minimum_ level of degeneracy qualifying candidates for big-league political office in 'Western Democracies' (which all happen to have Rothschild Central Banks so I hear) is that they will engage in non-lethal sex with pre-pubescents on camera. ....
Of all of your mad conspiracy rants, that one I actually like...

After which I assume the Candidates get some sort of card indicating "Qualifications Complete."

Smiley
legendary
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It's not an area that I've researched extensively, but my 'starting conjecture' is that the goal of the 'Epstein Psyop' is to demonstrate to the sheeple that our selected leaders generally dig sexually mature, even if what Trump calls 'on the young side', members of the opposite sex.  Beyond that, "Nothing to see here folks; Move along."

For my part I think it likely that the _minimum_ level of degeneracy qualifying candidates for big-league political office in 'Western Democracies' (which all happen to have Rothschild Central Banks so I hear) is that they will engage in non-lethal sex with pre-pubescents on camera.  And it goes downhill from there.

The requirement might be relaxed some for non-goy who have a demonstrable life-long commitment to Zionism.

legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
Finally, Jeffrey Epstein may be brought to justice for sex trafficking of minors.....

police alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls with other prominent people, which he had been using to blackmail other celebrities and big whigs. ....

That's pretty disgusting, I have only one question.

From time to time we see a media blurb about "XYZ went with Epstein on his Lolita Express..."

Is it probable that the guilty one here is Epstein, not those who went with him? That Epstein knew the girls were underage, but the "customers" did not?

In most states, the crime of having any sort of sexual contact with an underage girl is a statutory crime. Which pretty much means that if you violate it, you're going to have to face the consequences -- and you wouldn't be able to use the defense of -- " I didn't know" or "She looked 18 though" or even "She lied to me about her age"

So both would be guilty in this case.
sr. member
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Finally, Jeffrey Epstein may be brought to justice for sex trafficking of minors. Disgusting to think that we live in a world where it takes 12 years to even bring this guy into a courtroom. It's horrible to know that there are two justice systems in the United States, one that pertains to you if you're rich and wealthy enough to pay off some lawyers. And another that pertains to to the common folk

I'm going to break down below the atrocities that pedophile Epstein committed, and we'll judge him based on that.

Epstein was first alleged to have taken a 14-year-old to his home, who had been paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein. This was the first crime that had been known to the public, as this is what started the investigation. After an 11 month, undercover investigation of Epstein, police alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls with other prominent people, which he had been using to blackmail other celebrities and big whigs. Thirty-six girls came forward to the FBI and stated that Epstein had sexually assaulted and molested them on multiple occasions.

What's the punishment for this, you ask? An immunity charge and a sealed indictment from the US attorney in Southern Florida, Alexander Acosta (currently Trump's labor secretary). Some of the lawyers that helped him obtain this fantastic deal (and I genuinely do mean incredible, as he didn't go to jail for the rest of his life as he should have) included Alan Dershowitz, Ken Starr, and Gerald Lefcourt.

He's been rearrested for the same crime, and he's been doing the same thing with another 40 underage girls. I hope this guy rots in a prison cell, as he should.




Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Sentencing
https://www.thedailybeast.com/alexander-acosta-trumps-labor-secretary-broke-the-law-in-jeffrey-epstein-case-judge




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legendary
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Finally, Jeffrey Epstein may be brought to justice for sex trafficking of minors.....

police alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls with other prominent people, which he had been using to blackmail other celebrities and big whigs. ....

That's pretty disgusting, I have only one question.

From time to time we see a media blurb about "XYZ went with Epstein on his Lolita Express..."

Is it probable that the guilty one here is Epstein, not those who went with him? That Epstein knew the girls were underage, but the "customers" did not?
legendary
Activity: 1666
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
Finally, Jeffrey Epstein may be brought to justice for sex trafficking of minors. Disgusting to think that we live in a world where it takes 12 years to even bring this guy into a courtroom. It's horrible to know that there are two justice systems in the United States, one that pertains to you if you're rich and wealthy enough to pay off some lawyers. And another that pertains to to the common folk

I'm going to break down below the atrocities that pedophile Epstein committed, and we'll judge him based on that.

Epstein was first alleged to have taken a 14-year-old to his home, who had been paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein. This was the first crime that had been known to the public, as this is what started the investigation. After an 11 month, undercover investigation of Epstein, police alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls with other prominent people, which he had been using to blackmail other celebrities and big whigs. Thirty-six girls came forward to the FBI and stated that Epstein had sexually assaulted and molested them on multiple occasions.

What's the punishment for this, you ask? An immunity charge and a sealed indictment from the US attorney in Southern Florida, Alexander Acosta (currently Trump's labor secretary). Some of the lawyers that helped him obtain this fantastic deal (and I genuinely do mean incredible, as he didn't go to jail for the rest of his life as he should have) included Alan Dershowitz, Ken Starr, and Gerald Lefcourt.

He's been rearrested for the same crime, and he's been doing the same thing with another 40 underage girls. I hope this guy rots in a prison cell, as he should.


UPDATE: AG Barr has recused himself from the case, citing that he has a conflict of interest in relation to himself working at a law firm that Epstein has sought counsel from regarding his 2008 case. Note that Barr did not represent Epstein, nor was he at the firm at the time. (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-recuses-from-jeffrey-epstein-case-citing-past-legal-work)




Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Sentencing
https://www.thedailybeast.com/alexander-acosta-trumps-labor-secretary-broke-the-law-in-jeffrey-epstein-case-judge


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