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August 04, 2015, 05:56:42 AM
#32
I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying.

That is quite given and applies everywhere. Even in your government it does happen. And I know someone who just build trust and look into trading paypal to bitcoin.
Is that aimed at me CEG?
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August 04, 2015, 02:39:24 AM
#31
The problem is how do trustworthy members manage to trade bitcoin with paypal and how to identify a scammer. I have read various stickies but a newbie,as I was recently,doen't mean scammer. I am still looking for a trusted seller who will accept paypal.
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August 03, 2015, 09:05:52 PM
#30
I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying.

That is quite given and applies everywhere. Even in your government it does happen. And I know someone who just build trust and look into trading paypal to bitcoin.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
August 03, 2015, 03:38:57 PM
#29
A bit critical reply there. How do you manage to do small trades? Exchange fees are far too high. I took a risk and lost. That happens in life. I ran my own business for 17 years and took risks,a lot more than a few dollars worth of bitcoin. I managed to retire at 54 so I must have made some correct adult  descisions. For me this is a hobby at night but that does not mean I want to be scammed. I am still looking for trusted members to deal with me.

The normal rules of daily life do not apply to coin. It is absolutely nothing like running a normal business in a normal society on a normal day. There, sure, people "take risks," like using their last line of credit to open a coffee shop in a busy metro area. But coin isn't anything like the normal "risk-taking" that happens in normal, civilized society. I shouldn't need to elaborate.

I agree, it's common sense, I was referring to a source. If everybody knew it, there wouldn't need to be a sticky, so some people are clearly just getting into BTC and are still learning about it. No need to act like that about it, I seriously worry for your social skills.

My social inadequacies aside, we need to stop the song and dance stuck on replay here. I don't know why the mods think the current situation is acceptable. There needs to be one central thread for this same old shit that keeps happening, titled: "Post here if you have no rep whatsoever and yet still expect to do a trade with paypal/dwolla/PM/okpay and any other reversible payment methods," with the first post specifically stating that the individual should not expect anyone to trade with them. Merge all future "$28013981023 paypal for your 0.05btc I won't scam pinky promise" threads with that one. Done. The board just got 95% cleaner and I can then SEE all the threads that are actually trying to start serious trades.
Well I've been trading fine with PP. Yes, I could chargeback as I type this, but I don't plan to (which means nothing to you, Im the only one that can believe that). Currently, the loaning board is flooded with newbies asking for no collateral loans, so I have to agree that we do need to cut the crap with all the scammers at the moment. How we go about that though, is the debatable.
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August 03, 2015, 03:18:07 PM
#28
A bit critical reply there. How do you manage to do small trades? Exchange fees are far too high. I took a risk and lost. That happens in life. I ran my own business for 17 years and took risks,a lot more than a few dollars worth of bitcoin. I managed to retire at 54 so I must have made some correct adult  descisions. For me this is a hobby at night but that does not mean I want to be scammed. I am still looking for trusted members to deal with me.

The normal rules of daily life do not apply to coin. It is absolutely nothing like running a normal business in a normal society on a normal day. There, sure, people "take risks," like using their last line of credit to open a coffee shop in a busy metro area. But coin isn't anything like the normal "risk-taking" that happens in normal, civilized society. I shouldn't need to elaborate.

I agree, it's common sense, I was referring to a source. If everybody knew it, there wouldn't need to be a sticky, so some people are clearly just getting into BTC and are still learning about it. No need to act like that about it, I seriously worry for your social skills.

My social inadequacies aside, we need to stop the song and dance stuck on replay here. I don't know why the mods think the current situation is acceptable. There needs to be one central thread for this same old shit that keeps happening, titled: "Post here if you have no rep whatsoever and yet still expect to do a trade with paypal/dwolla/PM/okpay and any other reversible payment methods," with the first post specifically stating that the individual should not expect anyone to trade with them. Merge all future "$28013981023 paypal for your 0.05btc I won't scam pinky promise" threads with that one. Done. The board just got 95% cleaner and I can then SEE all the threads that are actually trying to start serious trades.
sr. member
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August 03, 2015, 02:53:36 PM
#27
I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying.

You don't need to read a sticky. It's common fucking sense.

Seriously, how do some of you guys get by in life? I really hope this board is just like 80% children and you all aren't actually making adult decisions on a daily basis. If so, I seriously worry for your well-being and for the well-being of those you are responsible for. Please try to educate yourselves on how to think critically. It will pay dividends 1000x greater than any amount you could ever make off coin in 100 years.
I agree, it's common sense, I was referring to a source. If everybody knew it, there wouldn't need to be a sticky, so some people are clearly just getting into BTC and are still learning about it. No need to act like that about it, I seriously worry for your social skills.
sr. member
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August 03, 2015, 02:41:36 PM
#26
A bit critical reply there. How do you manage to do small trades? Exchange fees are far too high. I took a risk and lost. That happens in life. I ran my own business for 17 years and took risks,a lot more than a few dollars worth of bitcoin. I managed to retire at 54 so I must have made some correct adult  descisions. For me this is a hobby at night but that does not mean I want to be scammed. I am still looking for trusted members to deal with me.
newbie
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August 03, 2015, 02:32:23 PM
#25
I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying.

You don't need to read a sticky. It's common fucking sense.

Seriously, how do some of you guys get by in life? I really hope this board is just like 80% children and you all aren't actually making adult decisions on a daily basis. If so, I seriously worry for your well-being and for the well-being of those you are responsible for. Please try to educate yourselves on how to think critically. It will pay dividends 1000x greater than any amount you could ever make off coin in 100 years.
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August 03, 2015, 01:59:30 PM
#24
I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying.

That's pretty much the habit of scammers. I've seen so many trades that sent wrong as the scammer did a small deal and then did the scamming deal with the same person.
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August 03, 2015, 01:56:22 PM
#23
I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying.
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August 03, 2015, 01:14:12 PM
#22
I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
legendary
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August 03, 2015, 10:04:53 AM
#21
Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid.

He still gets the money though. By the time you get around to processing a charge back (he'll stall/delay for as long as he can to withdraw the money), the stolen PayPal account he's using has already been abandoned. He gets the money no matter if your charge back is successful or not. There is no flaw.
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August 03, 2015, 09:17:47 AM
#20
Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid.
everyone can claim, but  there is no guarantee that paypal accept your claim.
There is not a 100% chance PayPal will give the money back, but it's pretty high I think? I'm pretty sure PayPal doesn't allow seller protection for cryptocurrency and that's why it's such a huge risk for the recipient.


They never fail to amuse.
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August 03, 2015, 09:15:01 AM
#19
Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid.
everyone can claim, but  there is no guarantee that paypal accept your claim.
There is not a 100% chance PayPal will give the money back, but it's pretty high I think? I'm pretty sure PayPal doesn't allow seller protection for cryptocurrency and that's why it's such a huge risk for the recipient.
legendary
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August 03, 2015, 09:06:46 AM
#18
Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid.
everyone can claim, but  there is no guarantee that paypal accept your claim.
There is not a 100% chance PayPal will give the money back, but it's pretty high I think? I'm pretty sure PayPal doesn't allow seller protection for cryptocurrency and that's why it's such a huge risk for the recipient.
PayPal, in the first place and defends its interests Smiley, what can be claimed if you donates money to a friend,
only  if it is presented as unauthorized transaction, or hacked account
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August 03, 2015, 09:04:18 AM
#17
Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid.
everyone can claim, but  there is no guarantee that paypal accept your claim.
There is not a 100% chance PayPal will give the money back, but it's pretty high I think? I'm pretty sure PayPal doesn't allow seller protection for cryptocurrency and that's why it's such a huge risk for the recipient.

If you take action right before the user spends the money, then you can get your money back.
legendary
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August 03, 2015, 08:52:15 AM
#16
You should try Wesellcrypto.com It's the most trusted Paypal to crypto exchange. I've received my coins in seconds after making the purchase. They only exchange Paypal to alt coins (such as XPY, DOGE, etc) but then you could exchange them to BTC if you want (in an exchange such as Cryptsy).  Roll Eyes
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August 03, 2015, 08:47:39 AM
#15
Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid.
everyone can claim, but  there is no guarantee that paypal accept your claim.
There is not a 100% chance PayPal will give the money back, but it's pretty high I think? I'm pretty sure PayPal doesn't allow seller protection for cryptocurrency and that's why it's such a huge risk for the recipient.
legendary
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Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
August 03, 2015, 08:35:32 AM
#14
Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid.
everyone can claim, but  there is no guarantee that paypal accept your claim.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
August 03, 2015, 08:19:49 AM
#13
Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid.
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