Original Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5494655This thread was created because the last thread was disrespectful, unprofessional and included irrelevant text. It was also when I first noticed and used my instinct reactions rather than calm down and think about the situation logically. Apologies to anyone who had to read that. I am keeping the thread up above for anyone to read. I did dislike his approach, but since I've calmed down entirely I will approach it with valid reasoning and arguments instead of anger with barely my point across unlike last thread. I have stated why I was pissed in the other threads if you are wondering why I was upset. (I often notice I repeat myself WAY too much)
This new thread is NOT created to harm JollyGood's reputation as a scam/spambuster or a user in any way. Everyone makes mistakes, and even I have done so too with my original thread. Regardless of his attitude and horrible reasoning he is still a good person in this community and I know that he is far better at this kind of investigation stuff than I ever will be. He is valuable to this community and he shouldn't be thought of differently because of this thread, at the end of the day he is only doing what he thinks best. This thread is created to reason and make him realize that I have nothing to do with "JackpotRacer" nor that I am an "alt".
1) JollyGood's March Reputation (JackpotRacer)
1.1) His claim
1.2) All the additions that JollyGood failed to investigate.
2) JollyGood's December Reputation (The original claim of me being an alt)
2.1) His claim
2.2) Ignored me when I tried to refute it.
3) JollyGood's Half-assed Responses and Lack of investigation
3.1) Refuses to actually try and investigate his claims and questions
3.2) Ignoring me whenever I try to prove myself (My intentions on the forums here have been clear too)
3.3) You have lost who is actually a "nuisance" as you call me
3.4) I am offering you a way to try and prove that I am a real person and not an "alt" and I hope you eventually give it a chance
1) JollyGood's March Reputation
I had to go back to refresh my memory, and I started briefly looking at the replies for little since I forgot about most of this stuff.
Let's start off with why I was seemingly supporting JackpotRacer.
1.1) My reply was not on either side
Here was my only singular post that was "defending" JackpotRacer. I made this reply on March 7th,
"Are you not going to answer? Where or How did he use these supposed exploits to his advantage? Where is the proof. How come this question is always avoided" (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63774318)
Until just now, I thought I was defending him, but it seems like I wasn't even on either side. I was just asking a question to Eva due to some of her unprofessional replies.
If you look at the posts made from the other users and Eva, she only answers like one question rather than all of them. I instantly recognized this reply (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63772872) as part of why I also replied saying my message above. I remember reading at the time and came up to what I posted. There were multiple people agreeing that she fails to answers questions. Hopefully you understand as to why I posted that reply.
Until now, I thought I made more replies that were relevant to the thread but clearly not. This was my only singular reply. If I was an alt of Jackpot, wouldn't you think at the very least I would reply with more posts?
On March 20th, like two weeks after I stopped caring about that thread, Jackpot reposts my comment (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63837598) and Icopress calls it out. I am extremely confused about this, because this dude reposting my comment TWO WEEKS LATER shouldn't mean I'm his "alt" all of a sudden.
JollyGood, rather than attempting to investigate to confirm the post, just automatically sided with the reputable member rather than try and verify the claim, even though the point is very weak. How is this my fault in any way that he just randomly decides to copy and paste my text? I'm not trying to be rude, but rather than actually trying to verify the claim using the information below, it just feels like you've only stuck with your assumption because Icopress is reputable, along with your past accusation against me from 5 months ago.
1.2) All the additions that JollyGood failed to investigate.Let's keep in mind the following; JollyGood is supposed to be a respected investigator on the forums. I am in no means attempting to undercut his credibility with what I'm about to say, but it is insane that I had to go out and find differences that are used to identify alts just to prove that I have no association with him. Also, I'm obviously not an expert. I won't be surprised if something I say here isn't 100% correct when I was checking Jackpot, but I still tried my best.
The Thread;1) Someone copying and pasting my text doesn't mean that I'm their "alt". This is just illogical considering anyone can do this. I'm not sure why Jackpot did but it is what it is.
2)I was not even siding with Jackpot or Eva in that thread, I was just asking questions and then I never replied again.
3)More replies would have been made by me regarding the topic of the thread. As far as I remember, unless they were deleted or in another thread I do not remember. You can check with ninjastic space to verify.
Comparing the user to me;4)Our typing styles and attitudes are very different. Even though we were both pissed, I tried calming down in that original thread I made and offered to resolve your doubts in a civil matter with proof provided.
5)I've stated here that I live in the USA (my first thread, and I'm willing to screenshare my university IPs if that helps to anyone)
I've tried investigating (point 9) and Jackpot lives in Iceland
6)This was the only time in history that I remember ever "Defending" JackpotRacer. Please, link another thread where I was "supporting" JackpotRacer
7)Crypto addresses are different and have never linked back
My address (I have been using since 2021); bc1qunhuvgkahf42regsum6zayvnman0rfzkh9x6da
JackpotRacers address; (I do not even know which one they're all like 2017 old)
https://ninjastic.space/addresses?author=JackpotRacerGo ahead, for those who investigate crypto wallets, you can do that to see if any transfers of funds or reposts on the forums containing my wallet were connected with this user, or anyone elses here. I will also provide you my ETH and LTC wallets which I've been using since 2021 too if needed.
Apparently it was a quoting issue?
Timelord2067's post. (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64019785)
Timelord actually investigated and clarified the situation, and at least realizes that I'm not JackpotRacer in any way. Apparently it was a quoting issue on Jackpot's end.
9)This dude even had a whole gambling website.
(
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11796736)
If you go to whois and try searching who owns that domain, it's from a whole different country. From Iceland?
(
https://www.whois.com/whois/jackpotracer.com) This also ties in with point #5
10)I hate gambling, I do not encourage it nor respect people who do it very much. I have said this here long prior not only on Bitcointalk but on Discord. While this dude is seemingly a gambler or a gambling website hoster.
11)If we were indeed alts, there would be at least one time where I accidentally used his account to post on one of those threads.
I hope the above at least makes Jolly realize that I have nothing to do with Jackpot.
If anyone else has any other points add them in,
2) JollyGood's December Reputation"when a newbie posts with a deep knowledge of the forum/members in the Reputation board, it is usually to hide other accounts."
2.1) His claimhttps://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63296494Your is not the only account, there have been several others new over the past 5-6 months that have behaved suspiciously.
You know far too much about this forum considering your "ineedhelpplease" account was created in October 2023. Having said that, whenever you want you ask questions in an attempt to demonstrate you are a newbie you do and when you decide to post in-depth you do. How many accounts do you have here?
I can care less, I've stalked people for ages during late 2023 and Jan 2024 to learn more(NO not personal info, just their posts and accomplishments on the forums). I do not regret it, I learned alot about crypto in general including the history, some of which is actually useful to me. I also have knowledge on a majority of the people who actively used this forum and because of that I can respect alot of these people and know what they did to help contribute to Bitcointalk.
I actually did the same on another community, and because of that I became highly respected and literally helped tons of people, both with big and small amounts. It got to the point where I could help people save thousands, tens of thousands of dollars for free which made me feel not useless for once. If it wasn't for me, they would have NEVER gotten their lost assets returned or unbanned months and YEARS later. (Will be proving it with 3.4 to JollyGood or anyone interested)
Let's break down my reply in that thread;
This thread blew up a lot more than I ever expected tbh. How big was he in the community? It seems like he did a lot of things already and has been here for years too.
"This thread blew up a lot more than I ever expected tbh. How big was he in the community?" - At the time I didn't realize he was a DT1 user nor did I even know what DT meant(proven by my next reply on that thread too..). This was also my first time seeing him. If I'm correct I started to try and become active on these forums during early december, possibly very late november? So I had no information on him
"It seems like he did a lot of things already and has been here for years too." Inferred straight off his join date, posts, reputation and the past actions people have said about him. Anyone can do that.
It isn't hard for any new user to correlate to that judgement. Your point is extremely weak, and contains no supporting backbone.
2.2) Ignored me when I tried to refute it.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63298414I noticed his neutral reputation, and I tried replying to him hoping to resolve it, but he just didn't even bother responding? If you ctrl+f my name and his name on the next page, he made no attempt to reply, he just focused on the topic of the thread. Since it didn't matter much to anyone I thought of it as more of an achievement and didn't really care after that.
It just feels extremely unprofessional on his end and I don't know what else to say. I hope you're able to realize this dude.
3) JollyGood's Half-assed Responses and Lack of investigationI will now be getting into his responses to my posts, and proving that they are illogical.
3.1) Refuses to actually try and investigate his claims and questions When I first noticed all of this going on, it was over a month later. I was inactive, and if you check my post history I took several breaks from the forums.
Keep in mind, I did NOT view this whole blackjack fun drama for weeks after my post. I did NOT care about it. That is why there are posts from after the accusation date.
I became inactive again on 3-18, with a thread on 3-22 stating the problem with my class because I wanted to post it somewhere. You could've at the very least alerted me about this or let me have a chance at defending myself, even my last post on that thread was March 7th as well.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64007651JollyGood responded with the following (
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64022807)
This "ineedhelpplease" account started off as a newbie alt-account complaining about Rollbit and then morphed in to a nuisance account. It is not that rare or strange to see an attention-seeker seeking attention by creating threads by proclaiming ignorance even though have been around this forum for far longer than they let on using other accounts, I do occasionally wonder about their long term intentions.
It's just sad how you avoid talking about my situation with Rollbit, because it is clear that I have ONLY found out this website through searching "Rollbit stole my money" or whatever. I ONLY made my account here because I saw Rollbit Razer reply to scam/fraud accusations here and since it was hard to contact him via other ways, making an account here was the best option. I had a valid reason to complain, I lost thousands of dollars. You are taking that like some sort of huge negative problem. All of that money went from $4k to $5.2k to $7k to $8k to $12k last time I checked, it just keeps going up. Money is still money dude. No one deserves to have their hard work taken away through some bs. (And yes, this loss was my fault I am aware, no need to reply with that.)I've accepted the loss a long while ago
Thread;
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbit-has-literally-has-thrown-my-money-away-sending-it-to-an-ftx-address-5471380"Nuisance account"
This will be spoken about at 3.3. This is just completely false.
"It is not that rare or strange to see an attention-seeker seeking attention by creating threads by proclaiming ignorance even though have been around this forum for far longer than they let on using other accounts"
I am extremely confused here too.
Here is my thread history for you to review;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3585906;sa=showPostsIf I am reading correctly, you are making the assumption that I've made threads just to speak about me being a "new" member. Until I felt offended by your threads I did not give a single care in the world to make threads about "being new to bitcointalk" If you mean my hero rank thread then that's because I needed to know (further reason down below)
"I do occasionally wonder about their long term intentions."
Well dude, if you actually INVESTIGATED then you would know why I'm active here. I've already stated that my intention here was public. I started becoming active here on these forums after I saw one of the Rollbit campaigns, and messaged HHampus asking if I could participate in the campaign to earn my money back ONLY if I had the required ranking. He said that I could, but not guaranteed, regardless of my ban on the Rollbit website. I started becoming active after that. I am normally one for providing proofs, but I do not have this message to prove it since it looks like bitcointalk clears PMs after a certain amount of time, I tried checking my PMs the only 2023 PM that stayed was on December 13, 2023, 08:05:50 AM. But if he remembers it then yes, this can be proven easily.
3.2) Ignoring me whenever I try to prove myself (My intentions on the forums here have been clear too)3.1 can also very easily tie in with 3.2, but I will just show this very quickly
I created my initial thread, which was again not very strong and contained more anger and irrelevant text unrelated to the point of the thread rather than reasoning.
Ah well, the only comments that manage to come to mind immediately with a degree of satisfaction are: part good riddance and part hopefully it is the last we have seen of another nonsensical account that was created for no real purpose other than to be a nuisance.
Whatever nefarious intentions this ineedhelpplease account was created with, thankfully they have been thwarted. This account will float around for a while and will maybe even post intermittently from time to time when least expected in order to remain a nuisance but that is to be expected. He will remain on my ignore list.
Your words and actions make a difference unlike me. You've been around for years and have proven to be a trustworthy member. I've only been around for about 8 months and I provide very little contribution to this community. What you say here will influence people and make them think stuff, even if it is a false case such as this one. It doesn't help that you have been ignoring or responding very poorly to my posts. You have provided no evidence and very poor backbone to your case.
I will present this again at 3.4 but I tried providing you a way to prove that I have a digital footprint online, that I am a real person behind the screen and not an "alt" or sockpuppet of the forum. Although my tone was pissed, I calmed myself down after that thread and even said I was willing to resolve this in a civil way. Instead, you do not care. I was also going to prove that I have nothing to do with JackpotRacer, but I have already said it here.
If you are putting me under your ignore list due to my disrespect, then it's understandable. But at the same time, accusing someone for over 5 months of being an alt, without notifying them while being inactive or providing them a way to defend themselves is sad. What am I supposed to do when all you've done was assumed and not really cared?
3.3) You have lost who is actually a "nuisance" as you call meAnd here you are again, just assuming me to be a "nuisance" account.
1)My goal, again was to rank up and participate in the campaigns to try and earn my lost money back. With that being said, No "nuisance" account is going to do that, without receiving negative rep or be involved with actions that disdain the community.
2)If you look at my previous posts, I have actually tried contributing to the forum. No "nuisance" account is going to do that. Albeit not much contribution, I have provided ideas for people to make money as well as opportunities through marketplace. I have reported spammers and some "merit giveaway" scammer as well. I have helped harass scammers too giving them negative reputation, bumping threads both old and new.
3)Also, "nuisance" accounts are often trolls. If you take a look upon all my posts, do you see me trolling anyone? Until I made my heated original thread, do you see me being disrespectful to anyone except scammers?
4)Let me remind you what a "nuisance" account is. You've clearly lost the definition of what one actually looks like. Anyone who has had a bit of experience here on the forums will know what one is too.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jolly-loser-3627273 - that dude who made an account just to post on my thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jvanname-1043276 - jvanname (a "nuisance" troll)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/humerh3-980573 - some scammer
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jollyg00d-3103643 - your impersonator
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jollybad-2704906 - another person who made an account just to harass you
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jollygoodwheremouthis-2560538 - another person who made an account just to harass you
From looking at your untrusted feedback, there are plenty of these people.
Have I, until my original thread, EVER disrespected you, or anyone?
I haven't ever trolled anyone here either and I haven't scammed or done anything wrong to anyone here. I have only tried to contribute, like I said.
Your definition of "nuisance" account is not accurate if you are bunching me in with that group. What is your definition?
3.4) I am offering you a way to try and prove that I am a real person and not an "alt" and I hope you eventually give it a chanceAs I said, I am willing to prove that I am a real person behind the screen. I will show you my digital footprint over the past 5+ years, including DMs with Rollbit Staff members which will also help prove how I even got here to begin with. I am aware screenshots can be faked, I will be screensharing, I will be refreshing too to ensure that it's not inspected bs. I will be showing you what I do online when I'm not on bitcointalk and how what I do here is similar there, which has ended up making me learn alot more about the other communities on the internet and how I've saved them from losing 4-5 figures worth of money. Someone who sockpuppets under an alt account would not have any footprint to begin with, because besides bitcointalk, they're just merely anonymous alts of a more active user. I am also willing to answer any question you present too.
If you would like to do this, just please message me with your Discord and add me so we can speak there and so I can try to show you all that. I am active there with a long standing history.
I do apologize for my initial anger, but you have to understand that what you're doing is not right. It just becomes even worse when you seem to just ignore me. Again, these threads were NOT made to try and tarnish your reputation or to cause any harm to you, but to reason with you and make you realize all of this.
If anyone has questions, feel free to reply. But please, if you aren't convinced by all this, then provide a way that will.
Also small edit;
Almost everytime I visit here I just search up "bitcointalk rollbit" on Google Chrome guest mode. You can see my thread is the first result because I've been clicking it myself for over half a year each time I want to visit here. Maybe this can help in a big or small way i dont know.
