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saint78

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Quote from: JaredKaragen on February 28, 2018, 06:59:55 PM

Quote from: adaseb on February 11, 2018, 04:41:21 AM

I am pretty sure that just cloning the firmware and buying your own FGPA won't work.

Either way, FGPA aren't cheap either.

Agreed. My father is a hardware engineer..... He had the same to say about pricing... it's only economical if you buy 1000+ QTY of them at a time or more....

I am doing research now on the pheasability of creating an FPGA device and making a utility to translate the algo libraries from miner apps like ccminer to something the FPGA could use; this would make pretty much a universal miner as long as theres no massive memory requirements like some algos have....

MY first step is going to be making block diagrams and flowcharts for him to give me an idea of what FPGA and dev board I need to look into buying.....

But, I am still waiting for those XXX photos of the inside of a baikal cube.....

Any chance you decided on which FPGA board to purchase?

JaredKaragen

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Quote from: adaseb on February 11, 2018, 04:41:21 AM

I am pretty sure that just cloning the firmware and buying your own FGPA won't work.

Either way, FGPA aren't cheap either.

Agreed. My father is a hardware engineer..... He had the same to say about pricing... it's only economical if you buy 1000+ QTY of them at a time or more....

I am doing research now on the pheasability of creating an FPGA device and making a utility to translate the algo libraries from miner apps like ccminer to something the FPGA could use; this would make pretty much a universal miner as long as theres no massive memory requirements like some algos have....

MY first step is going to be making block diagrams and flowcharts for him to give me an idea of what FPGA and dev board I need to look into buying.....

But, I am still waiting for those XXX photos of the inside of a baikal cube.....

x8664amd

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If someone can supply the ASIC chips, I have ways to design and manufacture the WHOLE miner for you. If anyone knows, PM me.

Tai_Pan

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They most likely use Baikal processors out of Russia, in fact the entire hashing board may be a Russian design. I'm pretty sure the chinese firm that sells them simply buy the machines from Russia or at least the components. I will know soon.

Maybe you can enlighten us too when you find out

adaseb

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I am pretty sure that just cloning the firmware and buying your own FGPA won't work.

Either way, FGPA aren't cheap either.

x8664amd

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What ASIC chip is the BAIKAL miner using? Did they develop this themselves?

Tai_Pan

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I do think is fpga due to the fact that such a fast upgrade was possible on the old miners mining algos.

JaredKaragen

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When it comes down to it; it could be some sort of SOC or FPGA; Thus the power requirement for it... 40W seems about right for a high end SOC/FPGA....
I would need to study how X11 works/calcs data; I never really looked....

Tai_Pan

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It's not like I am not trying to buy one from them.......for a god damn month Huh

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Quote from: Tai_Pan on May 17, 2017, 04:57:15 AM

I am very serious in taking this task.
Maybe we can gather a few and figure it out so we can build them for ourselves and with a much smaller price.Not to sell them but out of practical sense and passion.

probably the best thing to do would be to order one yourself and check all components in hand

Tai_Pan

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I am very serious in taking this task.
Maybe we can gather a few and figure it out so we can build them for ourselves and with a much smaller price.Not to sell them but out of practical sense and passion.

JaredKaragen

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I myself am still waiting to see some XXX photos of the new baikals. I want to see how they laid out their power, and if there are any markings on the FPGA/ASIC....

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Quote from: Ayers on May 16, 2017, 05:38:11 AM

Quote from: Tai_Pan on May 16, 2017, 05:29:36 AM

I really don't think the guys from BAIKAL program the boards or the chips by themselves.
They buy them already made with certain specs or preconfigured or something like that.

obviously they are paying much cheaper than what they are selling for, they are probably just assembling everything like heatsink the board and the fan they don't make those themselves, maybe they buy the board from bitmain? which are notorious for their work in these sectors

It looks nothing similar to the bitmain boards.

Tai_Pan

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I thought that would be the case.

If I were to bet my 2 cents I think all the hardware to make a cube is no more than 400-500$ in the worst case scenario in China.

Ayers

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Quote from: Tai_Pan on May 16, 2017, 05:29:36 AM

I really don't think the guys from BAIKAL program the boards or the chips by themselves.
They buy them already made with certain specs or preconfigured or something like that.

obviously they are paying much cheaper than what they are selling for, they are probably just assembling everything like heatsink the board and the fan they don't make those themselves, maybe they buy the board from bitmain? which are notorious for their work in these sectors

Tai_Pan

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I really don't think the guys from BAIKAL program the boards or the chips by themselves.
They buy them already made with certain specs or preconfigured or something like that.

couture

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Do you have any experience with chip/circuit manufacturing? Or with foundries?

As mentioned programmed circuit boards are surely almost impossible to reverse engineer?

percy_tc

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It has programmed circuit, you cannot replicate it.

Tai_Pan

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It depends very much if the chips are asic or fpga.
Factories can be found, deals struck and so on.
But I need more data first.Much more data.

couture

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I would be crazy keen and I have two cubes Mining and many close up photos of the boards

But......

How are you going to get the actual asic chips? That do the work? The other components can be acquired but the actual asic chips...?

Give me hope! Haha

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