Topic: [June 10th, 2015] Ponzis Explained w/ Analysis & Ratings (Read 4096 times)

I strongly believe the global mmm.llmmm global

Ok, can you help me? If you have experience on that with "140% in a short time" what they means with "short time" right now?

All transaction deposit or withdraw impaired because of a problem on the key API blockchain

You can add BTC-Transfer on your Rating list

please tell me none of these are actually working ponzis.. since most fail..

aprilcoin.com stole 10 btc from me.

Hkbincome is not paying:
http://allmonitors.net/hyip/hkbincome.com/
Update it...

umm, if youre trying to do another investors watch list, everyones been burned so i dont see why most would trust a thread again.

Hi, there will be updates later today.

It's hard find free time for me to updates and I'm also working on a redesign on Ratings in the 1st page. To make more readable all.

nice thread, thank you

any update? --

Oh thanks, fixed:

cherryRace.com

https://i.imgur.com/fjlBJNc.jpg

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 4% Daily Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 1/10

 Considerations:
 There is no trasparency at all. Design and concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP, remember this. 25 Days to get back just your deposit seems a bit much, and if we thinks how many days these HYIPs runs seems a bit to risky.



Man...your thread it's just a list with ref links, what we are doing here is totally different...don't spam your thing here, thanks.

LOL bro you don't understand how cherry works,
you will get the amount after 50days
not 200% in 2, 3, 9 and 14 Days like you say 
and every day you will get so about the 4%

Many factors, Risk can be: EXTREMELY LOW - VERY LOW - LOW / MEDIUM / HIGH - VERY HIGH - EXTREMELY HIGH

It's not my fault if 95% of these HYIPs are just trash or owers are too greedy. It's not easy to find a good HYIP with low risk here...Owners seems a bit new/noob to HYIP concept in general.


Btw new weekly insights!


NEW WEEKLY TOPIC

#2 Longevity: It's extremely important knowing how to estimate how much can HYIPs runs. Factors to be considered:

- How many days did it start?
- Their offers/plans are too high?
- How much effort they were put into their project?
- There is a good general interest in the project?
- The owner has already had other projects? How he behaved in the past?


NEW WEEKLY TIP

#2 Stay informed, learn to identify owners, they can change nick but not their habits and sometimes even if the system seems good to invest, the greediness of the owner brings to close the project prematurely.


Original post updated with all: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/june-10th-2015-ponzis-explained-w-analysis-ratings-1064400

What determines risk since it seems that so far there are only two risks, High and extremely high

Hey guys!


New Ratings:



cherryRace.com

https://i.imgur.com/fjlBJNc.jpg

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 4% Daily Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 1/10

 Considerations:
 There is no trasparency at all. Design and concept could be attractive, but it's just a normal HYIP, remember this. 25 Days to get back just your deposit seems a bit much, and if we thinks how many days these HYIPs runs seems a bit to risky.



HkbIncome.com

https://i.imgur.com/inRLHQk.jpg

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: VERY SHORT Concept: 0 /10[/size] Plan: 25-50% Daily Risk: VERY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Very short HYIP, that because their plans are offering very high returns, be careful.

Thanks!


Update Ratings:

btc-goldmine.com

https://i.imgur.com/3tsQ6ku.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 250% in 10 Days Risk: SYSTEM IS DEAD - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.

 Updates:
 26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 2 to 0
 Reason: Game Over as predicted.



StableBit.biz

https://i.imgur.com/baTz4Ag.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 1% until 200/220/240% Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.
 
 Updates:
 26/5/15 Risk from HIGH to EXTREMELY RISK
 26/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 0
 Reason: Payments stopped.



 EdgeCoin.com

https://i.imgur.com/ALBO024.jpg

Transparency: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: https://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/L0LMqxa.png /10 Plan: 5% Daily Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 No trasparency, payments are made manually and users claim already delays, not a good start.

 Updates:
 26/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to EXTREMELY HIGH
 26/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 1 to 0
 Reason Payments stopped.



New Ratings later.

EDIT: If you have any suggestion, tell me here please.

whoaa you are still continue with this thread? good job, even it is endles..

StableBit.biz pending = dead

Thanks, I have updated first post.


Btw just saw that bitcointalk is back online, tomorrow I will update all ratings + more new.

Bit-protect.com is dead

We should have a thread named "Scam" all ponzi and HIYP will be there. ahaha

Some days ago I deposited 0.1 BTC on 5starBTC and received back 0.12 BTC in a couple of hours (120% profit) but then I left because I knew it was going to collapse again but this time faster than last time. Now just go and check their transactions list  
I would only invest in new HYIPs with great investment from admin, stable incomes and possibly with real revenue behind. Or just stick to classic big HYIPs like cryptoconomist.biz  
But please keep in mind: Ponzi scheme, forex and stocks investments or shit like that... They can all scam or collapse  

So do you have any sugestion to invest on which hyip or ponzi site today?

The problem is not CrazyPonzi but the concept of a Ponzi game that isn't profitable enough and no more attractive, as I said this trend is out of date right now.
Admins have no chance to make one running for long time in this period in fact I would reccomend you all to stop wasting your time trying to do so.
Actually this is the best period to run a good HYIP or invest your funds in a HYIP, but keep in mind the golden period is gonna end on "Black December"  
So, best time to run an UNIQUE Ponzi game is only in certain periods  

Hi, I think there is a bit of misunderstanding. This thread was born to exploit ponzis, understanding them and get a benefit. We know that they run away in the end 99% of the time.

And personally, it's not different to put any sum of btc on roulette, for example. You can lose but you know what are you doing.

There isn't a rule about gambling > ponzi/hyip in terms of profit.

Back to CrazyPonzi, actually, I don't think that is more profitable now than ponzis that you said, by the way:

"Gantz Rating is changeable and is included my wish to join the system, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.".

For example when CrazyPonzi queue will be more short or empty my ratings will change for sure.

About CrazyPonzi "trasparency" yes, this can change now (I will do later) but not too much, in fact this system can be manipulated easy by changing DB records. For example how I know that that bet is real (paid in BTC)? What I saw are just records.

I hope the situation is more clear.

ohh but this thread is about ponzi and you are serious investing firm, so nothing for you:(

Hello,
Have you checked out XCryptos.com?
Our BitcoinTalk thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xcryptoscom-secure-and-advanced-3-plans-1524hrs-4050hrs-100100hrs-5-affiliate-1067436
We offer sustainable rates, and a one of a kind script including search, and sortable tables. As well as this, our affiliate pays 5% and offer extremely fast support via the BitcoinTalk thread.
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If you need any more info from us, feel free to shoot us a PM or email!

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stablebit.biz - GC licensed
domain registrar - enom
DDoS - KoDDos
SSL - Comodo's PositiveSSL certificate
IP - 7 HYIPs hosted on 198.144.120.65
monitors - ZERO ADVERTISING

Admin's investment is low-mid, probably around $700.

Added Ratings:



btc-goldmine.com

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 250% in 10 Days Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 2/10

 Considerations:
 Tricky HYIP, design is really cool and attractive, but basically it's just a short term HYIP, probably very short. Be careful. People can login in other accounts and withdraw instead of the owner, what they need is just the BTC address.



multiply-bitcoins.eu

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: VERY SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 200% in 1, 2 or 3 Days Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Probaly an attempt of Collect & Run Away, full of fake transactions. Stay away.



StableBit.biz

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 1% until 200/220/240% Risk: MEDIUM - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 5/10

 Considerations:
 Hourly HYIP, actually in early stage, can be profitable for early investors. Probably just for one cycle.



Hourly-coin.com

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: 0 /10 Plan: 101% in 1 Hour Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Poor concept and, in my opinion, risk my btc for 1% it's not safe.



Updates:

EdgeCoin.com

21/05/2015 Risk: from HIGH to VERY HIGH
21/05/2015 Gantz Rating from 3 to 1
Reason It seems slowly dying, insufficient communication from owner, possible missing payouts.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -          
Complete List: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11408481

Newbie or professional (I doubt it) he's seeking for fast money 

Oh thanks! :S


I agree, this system should be advertised also (mostly) on HYIP forums, this can help us to understand that this onwer, probably, is a noobish one.



Btw, just for who is interested, yesterday I found this interesting discussion about Dr-Bitcoin: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ok0vu/drbitcoincom_grow_your_bitcoin_up_to_8_per_month/ *

*EDIT

I would like to correct you, its name is PERFECTPROFIT.BIZ (not perfectponzi)
perfeprofit.biz - GC licensed
domain registrar - enom
SSL - Comodo's PositiveSSL certificate
monitors - ZERO ADVERTISING

Admin's investment is too low, probably around $300, and program's concept is now out of date.
Now please focus on the investment made for this HYIP: template in use is probably old and looks like to be for a fast scam, their advertising is very very low in fact admin didn't even promoted on HYIP forums (very weird). Last thing, they got only 0.5 BTC and that's not good. This is very high risky program.

Added Ratings:



Nine9.ninja

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: ∞ Concept: /10 Plan: 0-125% No Time Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 4/10

 Considerations:
 Hybrid ponzi/gambling game, deposits/bets expires and game continues, actually queue is short. This game is totally trasparent, all stats, transactions and addresses are public.



PerfectProfit.biz

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 10% Daily Forever Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 3/10

 Considerations:
 Classic HYIP system, actually in early stage, 10% Daily forever makes this system a short-term investment, maybe very short. The real question is: "How long it can run?" My prediction is 7 -13 days, but it's hard to predict.




What do you think about?

What a surprise!

Thanks for your report.



Hi, I'm trying to make at least 2 Ratings per day and keep updated all the others, it's not easy but I will do my best.

Guys you can help a lot if you reported here when "something happens" , for example when some site stops to pay or a new site comes out.

For  OP, why not update everyday? So many of member here can know about theirs investment. I think alot high rank member here will help u about condition for any investment site that ur posted here..

If you want to know more about this, watch : www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks4iuGOx0TU  

Search: Sergey Mavrodi

cryptohours.com - Attention, do not invest, payments stopped coming, I did not come Bitcoin

HYIPs are profitable only for clever investors, those with enough knowledge to know that should never invest in the plans that seem "too good to be true".
All those programs usually use same popular scripts which are based on E-Wallets (Perfect Money, Payeer, EgoPay etc.), so tell me how they can prove deposits are true? No way to do so if not doing a screenshot of their account balances, but even these may be fake.
Regards to withdrawals you can verify yourself on HYIP monitors, forums related to HYIPs, social networks and so on. There are always investors shouting their payouts, and this is good for both parts (program and investors).
Usually admins skip the big fishes (= scam) because they would harm their beloved program, imagine one entering with $5,000 and then leaving the program with $7,000... No way!
But who would listen to an idiot shouting SCAM saying he had lost thousands of dollars? No one!
Hopefully we still have honest admins returning back the deposits to their respective owners, since they aren't able to handle such amounts. Actually, there's a HYIP called Cryptoconomist which is paying big fishes with no efforts, you would say it's unbelievable but one of my skilled friends already invested $1,000 there and he's now reached ROI.
For some reasons I wouldn't invest more than $500 in Dr. Bitcoin, obviously in first plan only  

Sustainability of the system.


I can understand your point of view, but if some big fish join? What happens? And their concept seems made to do it. Also their "Top Investors" list on the website can be easily fake. However yes, probably they deserves a better rating.

This thread was born mostly for this! Discuss!

One question: Would you join Dr-Bitcoin now?* Btw thanks for your opinion.

*Edit

I'm not against you and I don't own dr-bitcoin.com but I don't agree with your conclusions regards to Dr. Bitcoin.
You didn't even mention they are using custom script, unique template, registered a company, bought EV SSL certificate, bought BlackLotus DDoS protected server, bought many monitors already etc.
We don't know if it is a Ponzi scheme but this is actually paying for 38 days and I didn't see any complaint till now!
Now I seriously started to think that you have something to do with CrazyPonzi somehow because, being a HYIP investor since 2011, I can't accept to see a program who already invested AT LEAST $5,000 receiving such low rating. Well, it's your thread I know but the problem is that you are discouraging potential investors to take part in these big projects.
IMHO CrazyPonzi is a dead program from the day one because nobody cares of these "Ponzi games" anymore, this trend is out-of-date-guys. They might be profitable at start for first investors/players but then they all become mousetraps, where you have to pay off yourself (giving to admin X% of your deposited amount everytime) to be able to "save yourself". I don't see any big investment made from CrazyJoker, and the even worse no advertising! (free and paid, both)

When you look at a new HYIP, two are things you need to look at: admin's investment and concept.

UPDATE: added some info.

for the potential longevity, what is it based on?

Added Ratings:



MMMGlobal.org

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: LONG Concept: /10 Plan: 120-200% Monthly Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 1/10

 Considerations:
 Hybrid chain letter/ponzi, not trasparent system and primarily no stats at all. This makes really hard understand in which status is the system, and their very slow earning system should discourage to join.



Dr-Bitcoin.com

Transparency: 0 /10 Potential Longevity: MEDIUM Concept: /10 Plan: 2,6-3,6% Daily Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 3/10

 Considerations:
 They want big fishes, see their plans. In fact I considered only the dailys, other plans are just insanely high. Not transparent, can be easily manipulated. Potential longevity is compromised due to possibility to run away after that some big fish join. Their effort in the project can be considered a good thing.

 Updates:
 19/5/15 Potential Longevity from SHORT to MEDIUM
 19/5/15 Concept from to
 19/5/15 Gantz Rating from 1 to 3
 Reason: After a little discussion in this thread I agreed that their effort into the project can be considered a good thing. Also a signal that they don't go away so quckly.

Bitone.pw go to scammer

I understand, something can change, will see.

About your suggestion, I will think about it! Thanks



Ok, it will be the next! Probably today later.

oo i see, gantz is your username, LOL i dont see it at first my bad..

all best of yours.. Cheers

Thanks, yes i'm seeing, every day thare are many new sites!

Btw when I have time I will publish more analysis, ratings and will update the existing ones.


It's a changeable global vote that include my wish to join at the last update, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.

hi can you please give a review about mmmglobal.org?

thankyou for making this thread, is really helpfull..

i hope u updated daily and expand to other site its hundred site like them in this section,,

and i dont understand about gatz? what is it?

Seems so...


Like Dice sites, this game is also played from site wallet, i.e. off-chain. This enables us to earn referral commission, which is not possible on blockchain based games. Hence each bet can not be represented by blockchain Tx. In fact, the operator clearly stated that on www.crazyponzi.com/proof.php.


Suggestion: I think you should sort your list in the decreasing order of Gantz rating in OP.

Man, 2% hourly = 48% daily.


Exactly.

48% of your initial deposit....
It takes 2 days and 2 hours to earn just your original deposit back and then another 2 days and 2 hours for your profit.
You are reading it wrong.
The fact you rated us 1/10 annoys me as we have paid over 13,500 times, and have not missed a single payment. Right now over 15BTC has been paid and only 9BTC has been invested. That means 6BTC has just come out of no where? No, this is our profit from trading.
No, we cannot be emperor of the earth. It is easier to make $1 than it is $10000. There is a point where earning gets harder. The max we will accept is 10BTC if the profit goes that high in the future.
Stop assuming and stop accusing. This thread is junk and promotes scams. You are one of the hyip owners, because if you weren't you would post from a reputable and reliable BCT account. You did not just join this forum and do such a good deed for the community there is a reason behind it.

Unfortunately real HYIP investor don't join cryptohours like programs, it means you are going to have a lack of investors sooner or later, you are probably wondering why?
Easy mate, most of your investors mainly come from bitcointalk only. We also know that programs like that don't run for over 1 month max (because is totally unsustainable), it means that investors when will be in profit won't reinvest any cent... It's not safe for them.
The concept was good months ago but now, and you already ran many Ponzi schemes like this. Stop it now and code something original because you can't steal all bitcointalk user's money  
With the software you have in your hands you can create better and bigger things  
HIGH RISK APPROVED.

Man, be serious. Your ponzi is offering 48% daily.


Sure...with a 48% daily profit business you will be soon the Earth Emperor!


You are not "completely transparent", if you want to be so, publish all transactions in&out, total deposited, total paid and balance.


Sure... And which HYIP or Ponzi I have? Man, my maximum Rating is 5/10.


Btw time will tell us who is telling the truth.  

Why is CryptoHours 0/10 and considered "short"?
I've put a lot of time and effort providing quality support for our investors, and we are a soon to be registered company. We only chose the look we have as it is familiar and comfortable for investors.
We are completely transparent, we provide as much information as we can and all addresses are public on the blockchain.
Maximums raise in regard to how much profit we make per day, it has nothing to do with collecting as much as we can or we would just set it to unlimited.

From what it seems, you are a HYIP owner yourself and you are rating sites you own highly and your competition 0/10.

RATINGS UPDATE:

CryptoHours.com

19/5/15 Gantz Rating from 1 to 0
19/5/15 Risk from HIGH to EXTREMELY HIGH
Reason: In just 3 days they have raised maximum from 0.25 to 5.00, this can be a strong indicator of a greedy collecting attempt, dead soon.

LucreBit.com DEAD


See the original post for complete ratings.


QUESTION: Hey guys, what do you think if I add "Status" item in my ratings? Status can be EARLY, MID or LATE, this should
represent which moment we are in the life of the system.

Do you like it?

Added Ratings:

ProfitCoins.org

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 8-15% Daily Risk: EXTREMELY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 0/10

 Considerations:
 Probably already dead, website ultra buggy, no trasparency, stay away.



InvestBTC.eu

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 110-175% after 12-46 hours Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 2/10

 Considerations:
 Owner is "friend" of BitOne.pw's owner, I think this is enough to understand that invest on this website is very risky, website is completely in html then probably he can't manage many txs, but paradoxically this give to the website more trasparency, in fact you can see deposit addresses and their balance.

Rating Update:

CrazyPonzi.com

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: ∞ Concept: /10 Plan: 0 or 140% after 120 hours Risk: HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 3/10

 Considerations:
 This can be considered more a betting game than a ponzi, if fact this can continue indefinitely, bets expires and game continues.

 Updates:
 18/5/15 Trasparency from to
 18/5/15 Gantz Rating from 5 to 3
 Reason: They don't publish deposit and payout transactions, this game can be easily manipulated. If owner is honest as he claims,
 why don't publish them? Judge for yourself.

Rating Update:

 CryptoHours.com

Transparency: /10 Potential Longevity: SHORT Concept: /10 Plan: 2% Hourly, 200% max Risk: VERY HIGH - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -                 Gantz Rating: 1/10

 Considerations:
 Lack of trasparency is a very big leak. This seems the classical short term ponzi where only super early investors can make a profit.

 Updates:
 18/5/15 Gantz Rating from 3 to 1
 18/5/15 Risk from HIGH to VERY HIGH
 Reason: In just 2 days they have raised maximum from 0.25 to 2.50, this can be a strong indicator of a greedy collecting attempt, the end may come soon.

The idea was that, a thread every week and current systems will be all updated on the newest thread.

Btw your suggestion is very interesting. I can update just this thread...mmmm should be better!

Thanks!

Some problems, this post is crazy formatted.  


They are just my opnions and my thought processes. And I like share them and discuss with you all about it.
I haven't made it for money. And I think that if I will be "corrupted" should be easy exploitable.

how do we know these people don't pay for these review
you are not trusted, no one should trust this list !!!

I like this, are you going to keep it up? By the title and first post usage, I'm thinking you are going to make a new thread for each week. I hope not, as I will not be able to find it then.

Keep up the good work! Hopefully you can figure out a better format here so each two don't look so much together.

I want you to always update thread

HYIP monitor like.
What can I say? I like the idea of a bitcointalk monitor 

Hi all and Welcome to Ponzis Explained w/ Analysis & Ratings!


INTRODUCTION

What is this!?
This is a weekly analitic thread about ponzis and HYIPs running on this subforum. Where i will try to rate them as neutral as possible, even better if your help.

Why do you do this!?
Basically because I like share my thought processes and my experience about them (crypto versions, not real money ones). And also to help the newbies to fall in obvious scams. (neither a ponzi, just a "collect&runaway")

Oh ok...But who are you!?
I'm a long time lurker of this subforum, and yes... sometimes, very rarely, I have invested on them.

Why are you wasting your time with them? They're all scams!
Yes and No, Yes because 99% of the time they haven't a real business behind them or owners runs away quickly with all funds, and No because even if they haven't a real business behind them, some ponzi/HYIP (not all) can be profitable if you exploit it and understand how it works. I consider these just a gambling game with a potential good edge.

Ok, after this little introduction we can start!


WEEKLY TOPICS

#1 Trasparency: Why is the most important factor to be considered before make an "investment".

The system's trasparency is very important, and in my experience the first thing to look, for trasparency I mean:

- If website description is true (we make financial investements...NO, we are a ponzi...OK);
- If website stats are all showed and public (balance, total investment, total paid, all in&out transactions and not just last 100 for example) and this is the "key" to understand if join the system or not;
- If the system is manipulated (fake transactions are the most important indicator of very risky website, and also the most common practice used).

#2 Longevity: It's extremely important knowing how to estimate how much can HYIPs runs. Factors to be considered:

- How many days did it start?
- Their offers/plans are too high?
- How much effort they were put into their project?
- There is a good general interest in the project?
- The owner has already had other projects? How he behaved in the past?


WEEKLY TIPS

#1 Never be greedy, one good investment can be much better than ten bad investments, be patient, wait an opportunity... and push!

#2 Stay informed, learn to identify owners, they can change nick but not their habits and sometimes even if the system seems good to invest, the greediness of the owner brings to close the project prematurely.


RATINGS *Updated to June 10th, 2015 - All ratings can change in the future.

Risk: It's referred to the actual risk to join the system on last update.
Gantz Rating: It's a changeable global vote that include my wish to join at the last update, basically a site can be rated 7/10 at the start and only 1/10 when I think that he will die soon.



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