Topic: Junior member 1000 Activity, Legendary Member 1000 activity. Is it fair? (Read 705 times)
July 12, 2018, 06:05:49 AM
I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong but for sure it would be fun to see people with a high rank whining for the lack of smerit especially those who have 20 or more accounts 20 Senior members are waiting DT for red trust abusing bounties + 100smallerACC
July 12, 2018, 05:23:33 AM
Well, ones who join earlier this forum were contributed more to development of this forum and earned their rank. That's sounds fair to me. We're now in the same boat and only left with the option to produce some quality content. If you do it with the intention of simply being helpful, you eventually be noticed and rewarded. Good luck!
July 12, 2018, 05:08:49 AM
If you are coming to this forum to earn some cash from campaign so you can get some daily bread for your family then its time you need to stop doing so, get a life and a new job in order to continue.
Little did everyone know that they're actually making fortune through Likes and Retweets!!!!!111! Likes and Retweets, Ned!! On an open fucking field!!!!
July 12, 2018, 05:00:38 AM
All latecomers will have the same issue unless they change this features, I got here to promote my website but after seeing a good project from the Ico and those high-rank campaigner making a good profit I become interested but it seems I will never reach that higher rank.
Of course you will never reach that rank because you are bound to become a future shitposter of this forum. I wish you all the best in you shitposting spree in these few years as you account grows up. 
If you are coming to this forum to earn some cash from campaign so you can get some daily bread for your family then its time you need to stop doing so, get a life and a new job in order to continue.
BTW you should get some English lessons from Jet Cash's Fit to Talk project before you venture into the threads of "Meta" again.
July 11, 2018, 11:19:58 PM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
Why it's not fair ? If you make spam post rather than make quality post, why it will not fair ? I can't see any useful post on your history and no one merited you. It's seems your already ware signeture, that's mean you will spam on forum to fillup managers requirement. How how you will get merit. In order to become Legendary you must be earn 1000 merit. Forget complain and start make quality post.
July 11, 2018, 08:26:35 PM
All latecomers will have the same issue unless they change this features, I got here to promote my website but after seeing a good project from the Ico and those high-rank campaigner making a good profit I become interested but it seems I will never reach that higher rank.
So, by not having XXX000 merits, you can't post or participate in the forum?
If you can't make decent posts then live with the lower rank. It's not the end of the world. July 11, 2018, 08:21:35 PM
All latecomers will have the same issue unless they change this features, I got here to promote my website but after seeing a good project from the Ico and those high-rank campaigner making a good profit I become interested but it seems I will never reach that higher rank.
July 11, 2018, 01:29:46 PM
I don't understand the part about getting nuked as a newbie. Is that a spambot-preventative tactic that mods have that isn't there for Jr. members and above?
As far as I know:-any Mod can nuke a Newbie. Nuke means ban + delete all posts.
-only higher ranking (global?) Mods can ban anybody, but posts won't be deleted unless the Mod does that manually.
Just to add to that, as I understand it, all mods can nuke a newbie but only the global mods and admins can ban anyone above newbie. So it isn't just cleaning up the mess the spambots make but once they make it to Jr. Member that puts more work on very few people to deal with them.
July 11, 2018, 01:14:46 PM
I don't understand the part about getting nuked as a newbie. Is that a spambot-preventative tactic that mods have that isn't there for Jr. members and above?
As far as I know:-any Mod can nuke a Newbie. Nuke means ban + delete all posts.
-only higher ranking (global?) Mods can ban anybody, but posts won't be deleted unless the Mod does that manually.
July 11, 2018, 12:56:39 PM
Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
LOL at this idiocy and outrage at a meritocracy.I seriously think there should be a minimum merit requirement to become a Junior Member. Maybe require just one or a few merit, because far too many shitposters are becoming Juniors including spam bots and once they hit Junior the accounts can't be 'nuked' which is annoying.
I don't understand the part about getting nuked as a newbie. Is that a spambot-preventative tactic that mods have that isn't there for Jr. members and above?And I fully agree with you about requiring at least 1 merit for the newbie-->jr. member transition. Even if they were to manipulate the merit system for that, it would eat up merits that might otherwise be used to rank up higher-level members. It definitely would be an additional, much-needed barrier. Not sure if Theymos would go for it, but it's a great idea.
July 11, 2018, 12:49:23 PM
I seriously think there should be a minimum merit requirement to become a Junior Member. Maybe require just one or a few merit, because far too many shitposters are becoming Juniors including spam bots and once they hit Junior the accounts can't be 'nuked' which is annoying. Requiring one merit would at least prevent spambots from getting out of newbie status and getting one merit shouldn't be that difficult for regular users.
Agreed!Alternative: could nuking be extended to Jr. Member level? And in that case patrol should probably include them too.
July 11, 2018, 12:38:32 PM
I seriously think there should be a minimum merit requirement to become a Junior Member. Maybe require just one or a few merit, because far too many shitposters are becoming Juniors including spam bots and once they hit Junior the accounts can't be 'nuked' which is annoying. Requiring one merit would at least prevent spambots from getting out of newbie status and getting one merit shouldn't be that difficult for regular users.
If you can't earn at least the minimum amount of merit to raise up a rank within the space of two yeats then you probably don't deserve to be here to be honest. I find that it's actually quite easy to get merit as long as you put some effort and thought into your posts, but this is obliviously too difficulty for some people.
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
If you can't earn at least the minimum amount of merit to raise up a rank within the space of two yeats then you probably don't deserve to be here to be honest. I find that it's actually quite easy to get merit as long as you put some effort and thought into your posts, but this is obliviously too difficulty for some people.
July 11, 2018, 10:44:40 AM
... and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
if you can make 1000 quality posts, most likely you will get enough merit at least for Full Member and if only half of it gets 1 merit each, you will be Hero Member
but I doubt you are capable of making 1000 quality posts if you can't spell Theymos correctly
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years, ... just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
even with enough merits, you will need a couple months over 2 years to be a Legendary that is if you lucky enough to hit Legendary random rank up between 775-1030 activity
July 11, 2018, 10:28:44 AM
I have been wondering if there was anything one could do to earn merit
Let's see your post history: ~ parents ~ merit ~ world war 3 ~ Hitler ~ Politics & Society ~ Off-topic Bounty (Altcoins) ~.Merit is working just fine!
July 11, 2018, 09:21:45 AM
I have been wondering if there was anything one could do to earn merit and go to a higher rank but from the look of things one just has to accept the present state of things with respect of merit award and hope that the rules will be tweaked eventually to give a shouting chance of moving up to low ranking members.
July 11, 2018, 09:08:00 AM
I have an idea. And what if the measure is not given by the participants themselves, but by special people. Something a kind of bounty managers on merit 
. And the work of these gentlemen will consist in reading the messages and assessing their quality.
Your idea is already partially implemented on this forum. It is being carried out by merit sources (83) that complement our meriting capabilities by means of awarding sMerit (up to 19100 sMerit per 30 days). Concentrating all the meriting responsibility on merit sources, as you suggest, would render the system completely centralized, which goes against the system’s design principals. It would also overkill merit sources, since they perform a voluntary task, not a job, that requires plenty of patience and time. . And the work of these gentlemen will consist in reading the messages and assessing their quality.Last but not least, your idea would mean less eyes to evaluate posts, so really less chances of being spotted if you come up with a decent post.
Note: the task of awarding merit is nothing like that of a bounty manager: one is after quality and the other usually after quantity, with few exceptions.
July 11, 2018, 08:28:18 AM
You are living on a cruel world already so any thing is fair and regarding to your question, there is a possibility that you will remain a Junior member or maybe a Member with 1000 activity. It depends on how you will post.
I have stated this when the merit system was implemented last january and I know that this will happen. Maybe those accounts who are being used for reports of bounty campaigns are the ones who will experience this in the future.
Maybe you can change "thymos" into "theymos"
I have stated this when the merit system was implemented last january and I know that this will happen. Maybe those accounts who are being used for reports of bounty campaigns are the ones who will experience this in the future.
Maybe you can change "thymos" into "theymos"
July 11, 2018, 08:20:23 AM
It totally depends upon your real quality of your threads.
In reality, if you can publish 1000 constructive, high-quality threads, I believe you will certainly get hundreds of merits.
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,
In reality, if you can publish 1000 constructive, high-quality threads, I believe you will certainly get hundreds of merits.
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and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend.
Yeah, merit system is very fair and only allows deserved users to rank up with their earned merits.Quote
Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
July 11, 2018, 07:11:21 AM
the ranking system in the bitcointalk forum has already been replaced. first to go up the rankings is very easy just by reproducing post in bitcointalk forum, so naturally if you find legendary with 1000 activity. with the new system, it will be very difficult to rank up and it is very annoying for newly joined forums.
July 11, 2018, 06:56:09 AM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
I am sure 'Sir' Theymos will not like the way you deliberately spelt his name.On a serious note your concerns are legit but is there really a possibility of anyone making 1000 quality posts without getting some of them merited? I doubt.
July 11, 2018, 06:51:58 AM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
those rules. Imagine if it were not for merit points. How many would now become seniors, most of whom write nonsense. Therefore, the measures of salvation. Do not have time to register on the site, well, it's the same if you do not have time to buy bitcoin for $10 or at least $1000 last year. To pour the head ashes now it's not good idea.
July 11, 2018, 06:46:38 AM
And where does justice, if the authorities have adopted such a system of ranks, then we as ordinary users should follow this system!
July 09, 2018, 03:15:35 PM
This is your problem.
If you have not received merit with more than 1000 messages, then do not enter this forum again. Nothing you write is worthless. You too can tire yourself in vain and cover unnecessary space in the forum
If you have not received merit with more than 1000 messages, then do not enter this forum again. Nothing you write is worthless. You too can tire yourself in vain and cover unnecessary space in the forum
July 09, 2018, 03:12:25 PM
I think that this is a good idea, and it would be fair if the distribution of merit was made by special managers and did not expect that someone would give you merit.
July 09, 2018, 02:54:28 PM
I have an idea. And what if the measure is not given by the participants themselves, but by special people. Something a kind of bounty managers on merit . And the work of these gentlemen will consist in reading the messages and assessing their quality.
. And the work of these gentlemen will consist in reading the messages and assessing their quality. 
May 26, 2018, 12:41:51 AM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
Merit will determine your account rankings! If you post 1000 quality, I think you will increase your rank! But apparently, rising rankings are so hard for the members! 
May 26, 2018, 12:33:26 AM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
I'm sure that those who haven't reached Sr. Member level and above will agree that it's not fare. But if you ask Hero and Legendary, I think they have another oppinion. It's not a secret that merit system doesn't solve spamming issue, the only thing it does is prevent up from reaching upper ranks. I'd like to see how many users managed to get new rank since February.
I'm agreeing with you that this not solve the spamming issues, I hope they have a time frame that those who was not able to rank up because of the additional merit system can still be promoted after a certain number of activity just like before but in a longer time fram (ex. member is 60 activity (present) - make it longer - 120 activity (can be rank up without the merit points). This is just a suggestion . Just like in any company you get a raise or promotion after a year or 2.
May 26, 2018, 12:26:29 AM
In my opinion, in all honesty, it not really fair to we the junior members of the forum. I really hope their would be some changes in the merit system as this would place a lot of restriction on many members of this forum to rank higher
May 26, 2018, 12:22:06 AM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
If you join this forum soon and have 1000 activities, you will become a legendary member. But since the new merit system, you will have to post with quality content and support the community you can get some merit. I think it's a bit more difficult now than before, but it also has some benefits that prevent spammers from posting a lot of meaningless posts.
May 26, 2018, 12:18:59 AM
The moments they released this rules, i must admit that most of us, the lower rank members disapproved with this. Its getting so hard to rank up now, meanwhile there is some member out there clearly doing some merits trading and their account will be just fine, while some jr.member will be banned thanks to their effort to rank up.
May 26, 2018, 12:09:28 AM
I think merit system is neither fair nor worst it’s having own advantage as well as disadvantage. Advantage is it’s reducing account farmers and also taking consideration for good quality posts . But disadvantage is nobody wants to give merit to good quality posts.
May 26, 2018, 12:06:10 AM
Indeed, now it is hard to get the merits, even if you write useful posts, they are rarely paid attention. How unfortunate (
May 25, 2018, 11:53:44 PM
i join this forum near 6 month and now i still Jr member and i not aby merit,maybe my quality post is low,but i checked somebody get merit,i see there are so many people post very normal and they get merit,i don't why 
),maybe we always is Jr merit if they don't change the system merit,now it is difficult to get merit
),maybe we always is Jr merit if they don't change the system merit,now it is difficult to get merit May 25, 2018, 11:52:28 PM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
Im also disappointed regarding the new merit system, its very hard to rank up and for me its very unfair to all new members but sad to say we cant help about it, we just hoping for the best that someday theres changes about the merit system.
May 25, 2018, 11:45:03 PM
post quality do you think is not necessarily the same as the quality of the opinions of others. so don't complain about it here. Anyway all it's not about the quality of the course but also on the basis of knowledge and whether informative post made. the system is already like this and if not on members who change themselves to be better then she will be kicked out for who wants to grow and have a breadth.
May 25, 2018, 11:38:15 PM
Collecting the merit is precisely very difficult. This may be not fair for the low-rank member. This condition can make us hurt. But, whatever the condition, now merit should be fulfilled or we cannot reach the higher level. This thing, of course, has the aims to eliminate or press the spammers.
May 25, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
Yes, the system of merit introduced since January of this year has been very unfair and in fact does not allow the new members of this forum to grow beyond the rank of members. I have not yet seen that some member with a rank would have about 1000 messages, however, I think that we will see this soon. The system of merit must be changed, it has already proved its unfitness for this forum. May 25, 2018, 08:58:39 PM
Have anyone rank up from full member to above with merit system? It's seem like hardest when you come from member to senior. Why does not support change from activity to merit (10 activity = 1 merit). So if you want go up from jr.member to member take at least 160 activity ~ 11 weeks. I think is possible than earn merit from quality post.
May 25, 2018, 08:32:48 PM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
Yes, I think current merit system is not perfect. Probably this system will be reviewed based on forum data - I think users promotion is almost stopped after merit system implementation
May 25, 2018, 08:32:12 PM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
If that 1000 post you have, it would be impossible for someone not noticing your quality post and eventually you will rank up because the veterans are watching us here in the forum. May 25, 2018, 08:29:32 PM
Life is and has always been unfair. I agree with this sentence. The time for us to join the forum is too late, so we don't need to worry about this issue because there is no use.
May 25, 2018, 07:10:52 PM
If you were to make '1000 quality post', I'm sure that you'd receive some merit!
Instead of arguing about the forum system(in the wrong forum category, even), go make those quality posts and you might earn some merit!
Instead of arguing about the forum system(in the wrong forum category, even), go make those quality posts and you might earn some merit!
May 25, 2018, 07:08:30 PM
To tell you my observation also, you are not the only one who will experience this one also I am and the others, who spend more on giving an answer to a certain topic with the best knowledge you have since there is no one here to focus on this matter like he will make list of post and replies that really need some awarding, but don't focus too much on it perhaps the admin can find a way to reconsider if they say your profile is a big help in our forum.
May 25, 2018, 06:48:48 PM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
I also feel what you feel, the number of posts that more and more but the merit does not come. However, we can not do anything, just trying to make useful posts and follow the rules that have been set. May 25, 2018, 05:52:40 PM
At first I was thinking about this too, but I just kind of had my way with it. It is like it is and I don't think we can do anything about it. You have other things like social media tasks beside signature. I know that they don't pay as much, but can still be considered a viable income option.
May 25, 2018, 03:42:14 PM
Well its nothing y'all can do about it. Either used the forum or don't.
May 25, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
I don't think it's fair. Because earn achievements not really, since most of the people wants money for this award. And if anyone is given, only old friends. It turns out that simply made the stratification of society. At the same time all the members also swim in the same broth.
May 25, 2018, 03:19:42 PM
Life is and has always been unfair. Trying to ask for a remedy won't help your cause, especially considering how many new members sign up everyday with the intent of spamming and collecting bounties. I think the merit system could use some re-working but that is about it. I also believe the merit system should stay, because at the end of the day if you are somebody with 1000 posts and no merits, you should and would most likely give up which I believe is a feature of the merit system and not a bug.
edit: I too would like to see how many have upgraded it would show how the system functions. Side note I know I am helpful to some people but I also know because I don't go above and beyond I will likely stay at my current rank. It sucks but I have accepted my reality.
edit: I too would like to see how many have upgraded it would show how the system functions. Side note I know I am helpful to some people but I also know because I don't go above and beyond I will likely stay at my current rank. It sucks but I have accepted my reality.
May 25, 2018, 03:18:44 PM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
I'm sure that those who haven't reached Sr. Member level and above will agree that it's not fare. But if you ask Hero and Legendary, I think they have another oppinion. It's not a secret that merit system doesn't solve spamming issue, the only thing it does is prevent up from reaching upper ranks. I'd like to see how many users managed to get new rank since February.
May 25, 2018, 03:14:55 PM
You are partially right, as I think this is the main point of merits. If you contribute to the community you'll get merits. I've seen many posts of people offering merits if you can prove you added a value to the community and posted quality post... You can check one of the lists here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-threads-giving-away-merit-points-for-quality-posts-2832127
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-threads-giving-away-merit-points-for-quality-posts-2832127
May 25, 2018, 03:12:48 PM
With the new merit system, it is quite difficult to have a change in rank. I am also currently affected by this new system. I can only wish that the system can be made less rigid than what we have now else, one might just remain on the same spot for years.
May 25, 2018, 03:04:43 PM
I can surely feel your pain as thousands of new members have this problem and unfortunately you are right, it is going to stay like this unless there is a radical change in the merit system, i think thousands of members have still low ranks even if they are active from last 6-7 months, i do think that this gives unfair advantage to the early members who are sitting on hero/legendary rank without earning merits like the new ones have to.
May 25, 2018, 03:00:15 PM
I am just thinking if by 1 to 2 years,I stayed on this forum and make contribution to this community but unfortunately no one give me a merit,and at same time I make 1000 quality post,I will still be a junior member just like a legend. Is it fair? Sir Thymos.
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