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Topic: just a little heads up for those who want in on VNL incentive before collateral (Read 1934 times)

hero member
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holy 170 peers...


and I keep trucking along peerming 15-20 a/day !!!

Seems like your node performs better than mine. I hardly get 5 VNL in 2-3 days.
sr. member
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hero member
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Crypto is King.
sr. member
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holy 170 peers...


and I keep trucking along peerming 15-20 a/day !!!
legendary
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Is there a tutorial for basic set up

Only two days left before you need collateral, but here is a link on how to set one up

PEER MINING IS FANTASTIC!!!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vnl-incentivecollateral-rewards-for-superpeers-how-to-1190741
legendary
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pointless?? seriously?  you think having more fully working nodes is pointless? ask Bitcoin supporters if they would like to have more fully operational nodes or not

Sorry, I didn't realise VNL had a lite client.
full member
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just setup my node. finally, rewarded for running a node.  Cheesy #happycamper
hero member
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Is there a tutorial for basic set up
sr. member
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here is a little update on how to set up two IP's in an inexpensive way if you want to run two nodes

https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/212/running-some-extra-superpeer-out-of-a-vm-and-cheap-vps-vpn
sr. member
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collateral and incentives are seperate from superpeers

though you must be running a superpeer to get the reward, its basically just saying those with 10k VNL and a superpeer get to tax the miners.

For what purpose? They must have an influence, otherwise they are pointless.

pointless?? seriously?  you think having more fully working nodes is pointless? ask Bitcoin supporters if they would like to have more fully operational nodes or not
legendary
Activity: 1008
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collateral and incentives are seperate from superpeers

though you must be running a superpeer to get the reward, its basically just saying those with 10k VNL and a superpeer get to tax the miners.

For what purpose? They must have an influence, otherwise they are pointless.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
collateral and incentives are seperate from superpeers

though you must be running a superpeer to get the reward, its basically just saying those with 10k VNL and a superpeer get to tax the miners.

what it isnt saying is that only those with enough collateral get to be superpeers.

read about it on the wiki.
legendary
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Super peers are unlimited in number, and they don't do anything different than peers, they just do it better and strengthen the network.

Collateral and reward are just a way of rewarding those nodes which have a vested interest in VNL and are helping to strengthen the network.

Masternodes quasi-centralize a system while Super peers just strengthen a decentralized network.

So why do they need to post collateral, then?
legendary
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can you explain why the need of 9999 coins after block x?

with the collateral it looks kinda like pos with dynamic interest ( 1-40% ).

if i understood something wrong please feel free to explain.

It's not interest.  Interest remains at a low 0.7%.  Also, the coins aren't new.  They're a percentage of POW rewards.  Unlike masternodes, wallets with any amount can be a super peer (your random vanillacoin port must be open, it also has some uptime requirements, etc.), but if you have a super peer and you send 9999 collateral to the main address in one transaction, you are then eligible to receive node incentives.  Each super peer on a unique IP has a chance at the percentage of POW rewards.  Two super peers on the same IP should each get the percentage of POW rewards half as often as one super peer on a unique IP.  So if you have over 10,000 VNL and want more node incentives, you need more IP addresses.

Seems exactly like masternodes then.

Similar, but very different.

Masternodes are a point of failure being that they are the only nodes facilitating things like Darksend.  They are payed for and are the only nodes that do a specific job.
Super peers are unlimited in number, and they don't do anything different than peers, they just do it better and strengthen the network.

Collateral and reward are just a way of rewarding those nodes which have a vested interest in VNL and are helping to strengthen the network.

Masternodes quasi-centralize a system while Super peers just strengthen a decentralized network.
hero member
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can you explain why the need of 9999 coins after block x?

with the collateral it looks kinda like pos with dynamic interest ( 1-40% ).

if i understood something wrong please feel free to explain.

It's not interest.  Interest remains at a low 0.7%.  Also, the coins aren't new.  They're a percentage of POW rewards.  Unlike masternodes, wallets with any amount can be a super peer (your random vanillacoin port must be open, it also has some uptime requirements, etc.), but if you have a super peer and you send 9999 collateral to the main address in one transaction, you are then eligible to receive node incentives.  Each super peer on a unique IP has a chance at the percentage of POW rewards.  Two super peers on the same IP should each get the percentage of POW rewards half as often as one super peer on a unique IP.  So if you have over 10,000 VNL and want more node incentives, you need more IP addresses.

Seems exactly like masternodes then.
sr. member
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sr. member
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looks like there are only 8000 blocks to go before collateral will be required to get rewards from the mining pools.


get your peer up and running now while its still free!!!

oh btw  John said enforcement for pools to have to give a reward will be happenning sometime this week...

CANT WAIT TO TAX SOME OF THOSE HIDDEN POOLS!!!
full member
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node incentive:game changer is coming  Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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The collateral is there to make sure that those receiving rewards after block 220000 have a vested interest in the well being of the network..

As said before anyone can run a super peer, but those that care enough to see vnl succeed will be rewarded.

Also it is a great way to remove coins from the exchange during early heavy reward inflation.

It just makes sense/cents.

One of the biggest obstacles of early coin development is the pressure large miner farms put on early investors, incentive helps to mitigate this problem passing on rewards to those that are strengthening the network.

This has been debated constantly in bitcoin.
legendary
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can you explain why the need of 9999 coins after block x?

with the collateral it looks kinda like pos with dynamic interest ( 1-40% ).

if i understood something wrong please feel free to explain.

It's not interest.  Interest remains at a low 0.7%.  Also, the coins aren't new.  They're a percentage of POW rewards.  Unlike masternodes, wallets with any amount can be a super peer (your random vanillacoin port must be open, it also has some uptime requirements, etc.), but if you have a super peer and you send 9999 collateral to the main address in one transaction, you are then eligible to receive node incentives.  Each super peer on a unique IP has a chance at the percentage of POW rewards.  Two super peers on the same IP should each get the percentage of POW rewards half as often as one super peer on a unique IP.  So if you have over 10,000 VNL and want more node incentives, you need more IP addresses.
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