Just got off the phone with NewEgg... - page 3.

hunter

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Quote from: Zagitta on June 20, 2011, 12:30:37 PM

Quote from: hunter on June 20, 2011, 12:12:16 PM

Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 11:56:01 AM

What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

I assume you're talking to me.

2 XFX
2 Sapph

They don't need more than 60% fan speed, that's at 1ghz/1.225v.
All cards are running 65-70°c in 2 different boxes.

And I 100% agree with PcChip, 1 Sapph fan went bad in the first month, smooth sailing since.

Did you check your VRM temps on those cards? because my Asus reference 5850 runs at 1020 mhz, 300 mem, 1.2v and with 50% fan the VRM gets up to 140 degrees wich is 10 degrees above max supported operating temp of the chips according to the datasheet...

Of course, top cards mid 70°c, bottom cards are mid 60°c.
The 5850 probably has an inferior design, IDK for sure.
Does it have the heat pipe on the base plate for the vregs?

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Quote from: fascistmuffin on June 20, 2011, 12:26:41 PM

Did this guy just lie to newegg because he wanted to bail on his rig because he didn't want to take any risk on his investment?

Yeah the OP basically made a post showing off that he's a huge asshole. He's "loyal to newegg" as long as it doesn't cost him anything, basically he's loyal to them to screw over other customers. He wants to call up newegg and tell them whats going on after his own refund has been processed. Genuine Class that one.

And for some reason it's turned into a stupid debate about fans afterwards. The MTBF for gpu fans is 50,000 hours, the concept that spinning it fast reduces this by a factor of 10 or more is retarded. Let's not discuss this anymore shall we?

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Quote from: hunter on June 20, 2011, 12:12:16 PM

Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 11:56:01 AM

What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

I assume you're talking to me.

2 XFX
2 Sapph

They don't need more than 60% fan speed, that's at 1ghz/1.225v.
All cards are running 65-70°c in 2 different boxes.

And I 100% agree with PcChip, 1 Sapph fan went bad in the first month, smooth sailing since.

Did you check your VRM temps on those cards? because my Asus reference 5850 runs at 1020 mhz, 300 mem, 1.2v and with 50% fan the VRM gets up to 140 degrees wich is 10 degrees above max supported operating temp of the chips according to the datasheet...

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Quote from: fascistmuffin on June 20, 2011, 12:26:41 PM

Did this guy just lie to newegg because he wanted to bail on his rig because he didn't want to take any risk on his investment?

Yeah that guy decided this whole endeavor was a fucking stupid waste of time and cut any potential losses before he got disappointed in himself for being such a dipshit.

fascistmuffin

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Did this guy just lie to newegg because he wanted to bail on his rig because he didn't want to take any risk on his investment?

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Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 11:56:01 AM

What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

Even at 100% 24/7 though, they're not going to last mere months.

Heck, I've had computers that I left on 24/7 folding for a couple of years and the fans were just fine. All of them.

The only time I've had a computer fan die is if it was one of those really small and cheap 40mm fans on a really small and cheap video card (like an 8400GS or something) that was running for a couple of years at least, and the fan in my laptop finally died after leaving it on 24/7 for 6 years.

Seriously, if a fan dies on a high-end video card in a matter of months, it was a faulty fan to begin with.

hunter

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Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 11:56:01 AM

What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

I assume you're talking to me.

2 XFX
2 Sapph

They don't need more than 60% fan speed, that's at 1ghz/1.225v.
All cards are running 65-70°c in 2 different boxes.

And I 100% agree with PcChip, 1 Sapph fan went bad in the first month, smooth sailing since.

PcChip

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In my experience, if a fan doesn't start making crazy noises in the first month of use, it has lasted me the entire life of the card

AngelusWebDesign

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I don't know...XFX has some pretty cheap fans.

Synaptic

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Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 11:56:01 AM

What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

The only thing that ages in a fan that isn't physically damaged is the lubricant.

If you lift the stickers off of most sleeve fans there is a nib you can put oil into, or if it's a real cheapie, a screw so you can take the blade assembly off to get to the reservoir.

If you let that lubricant degrade, then yes, you can lockup your sleeve fans pretty easily, especially if it's in a dusty environment.

But even then, fans last a lot longer than a matter of months...unless they're really, really cheap ass fans (of which I've had a few of!).

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What brand are they? And, were you running the fan @ 100%?

Anyhow, fans will only last so many cycles -- they don't age like a human being. Their only "aging" is how many times the fan has spun around. More RPM = less life, it's that simple.

I wouldn't pay more than 40% of original price for a card that was "run to death".

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Quote from: Synaptic on June 20, 2011, 11:05:55 AM

Quote from: Clipse on June 20, 2011, 11:04:01 AM

adorable story, so you wet your diaper and left mining ? Atleast the sun did rise today.

Yeah man! I left and made the difficulty easier for you!

Isn't that exciting!?

Cheesy

OWNED! LOL

PcChip

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Synaptic - Cool story, thanks for sharing

evlew - fuck off our forums, brah.

evlew

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just saying. these threads are old. yes i should know better than to egg him on because now i look like the a-hole. oh well... been a stressful week and it would be nice if the forums were filled with useful information. If he's really honestly trying to help people then i am sorry, but i just don't see that being the case.

(ps newegg does all that shit minus the thumbdrives for everyone.. why do you think people use them)

sorry for going off the deep end peeps.

hunter

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Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 11:36:27 AM

Shows what you know about engineering and computer hardware.

When you run them @ 100% they do *not* last for years. Try months. As in, count-on-one-hand single-digit months.

Not necessarily true, my 5870s have been crunching 24/7 one thing or another since release.
They show no signs of degradation, all are reference design.

d.james

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Behold: A NewEgg Mining Company!

BUY NEW EGG SOTCKS NAO!!! Cheesy

Icy-

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Quote from: evlew on June 20, 2011, 11:10:43 AM

Quote from: Synaptic on June 20, 2011, 10:57:17 AM

Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 10:53:16 AM

I certainly hope NewEgg figures out sooner or later what's going on.

Yeah I really wish I could have told him right there, but I'm not in any hurry to make myself out to be another bitcoin asshole to a company I've been loyal to for 10 years.

I suppose I could call in anonymously...

Might actually do that now...

I'll report back, lol.

EDIT: On second thought, I don't want to jeopardize my waivers. If shit really hits the fan they could make them retroactively null or something.

First of all, they gon't give a fuck about your loyalty. You returned 1200 dollars.... woah! big spender! dipshit. they've got people order 100 times more than you on a weekly basis. get over yourself. i've been a newegg customer for a long time too.

second, you already are a bitcoin asshole. pack your computers up and leave pussy. That is if you're telling the truth. I've seen 100x threads from you like this already. shut the fuck up and get over yourself.

if you don't want anything to do with mining take your faggot friends and leave. don't make thread after thread after thread trying to scare a few measily newbies away.

In conclusion if you have no mining hardware anymore, you officially have no reason to post in this forum. so like i said.. leave pussy. vanish.

Get the fuck off these forums.

Synaptic

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Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 11:36:27 AM

Shows what you know about engineering and computer hardware.

When you run them @ 100% they do *not* last for years. Try months. As in, count-on-one-hand single-digit months.

Depends on if it's a cheap reference fan or aftermarket.

Also matters if you bother to oil the sleeves.

The Sapphires that I bought had ball bearing fans IIRC. Running them at 100% makes no difference at all.

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Shows what you know about engineering and computer hardware.

When you run them @ 100% they do *not* last for years. Try months. As in, count-on-one-hand single-digit months.

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Quote from: AngelusWebDesign on June 20, 2011, 11:24:54 AM

So if I buy a new video card in the next month, I have to wonder if it's been used before, OC'd in some dude's rig for 2 weeks with the fan @ 100% (translated: 1/2 the fan's life gone)

Fans last damn long - like years.

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