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Topic: Just got scammed by a "Legendary" member ! - page 2. (Read 1321 times)

member
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Look at the thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scammer-podgor-1913937

Scammer was scammed by another scammer.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Actually, no. It's not normal for bitcoin betting sites to randomly ask for ID. And I've seen many people online confirm this. This is the ONLY bitcoin betting site that asks for KYC. And Of course I didn't provide full details in this comment because this thread isn't about sportsbet.io. It's about this  legendary member that's a scammer. I'm simply advising people to be cautious of any website this guy promotes since he seems to be a scammer. And sportsbet.io seems to be very shady upon doing some research.
I used to bet a lot in the past and most of them DO tend to request it. But anyways, when you started betting at the website, you accepted their Terms and Conditions. And this is what it says there:

8.4 We reserve the right to use additional procedures and means to verify your identity when processing deposits into your Member Account.

If that's why you're calling them "scammers", then you are the wrong one in this case.

ANYWAYS... We are both off topic here. If you want to keep discussing this, create your own thread.

P.S: Please stop with the cancer oversized font.

That's not why I'm calling them scammers. I'm calling them scammers because I deposited money and placed bets then they disabled my account after placing the bets and have received no response from customer support. This isn't a simple case of where they're asking for ID to reinstate the account. And also, I could mention many bitcoin sites I've played on for a couple years and never gotten asked for ID: cryptogames, duckdice, cloudbet, nitrogen sports, satoshi dice. I still think a bitcoin site asking for this is very sketchy since like I said there's no reason for it unless they want to weasel out of paying money. Anyway, this is my last comment about this on this thread.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
As far as I know, the value of account Legendary is greater than $150. Why could he do that?
He was already neg trusted. No one is going to buy a red account (most only do this to join signature campaigns, and 99% of them don't accept neg trusted users).

Also, Legendary accounts are not worth $150. It's probably WAY more (even now that you need 1000 merits)
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
As far as I know, the value of account Legendary is greater than $150. Why could he do that?
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
Actually, no. It's not normal for bitcoin betting sites to randomly ask for ID. And I've seen many people online confirm this. This is the ONLY bitcoin betting site that asks for KYC. And Of course I didn't provide full details in this comment because this thread isn't about sportsbet.io. It's about this  legendary member that's a scammer. I'm simply advising people to be cautious of any website this guy promotes since he seems to be a scammer. And sportsbet.io seems to be very shady upon doing some research.
I used to bet a lot in the past and most of them DO tend to request it. But anyways, when you started betting at the website, you accepted their Terms and Conditions. And this is what it says there:

8.4 We reserve the right to use additional procedures and means to verify your identity when processing deposits into your Member Account.

If that's why you're calling them "scammers", then you are the wrong one in this case.

ANYWAYS... We are both off topic here. If you want to keep discussing this, create your own thread.

P.S: Please stop with the cancer oversized font.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Interesting. I see he's also shilling for the website sportsbet.io which I'm starting to believe scammed me out of about 1.5 btc by disabling my account for no reason while I still had active bets. Be very wary of any product or website this guy is promoting.
Please create your own thread in the Scam Accusations board.

BTW, the below doesn't make the website a scam. I'm pretty sure 99% of the betting websites request your ID in some cases. Even if they support BTC. Other than that, you didn't say anything or gave any evidence about what the website did.

Hmmm. If this site is rejecting withdrawals made by users and asking them to supply documents, this is just increasing my feeling this site is a scam. There's no reason why a sportsbook should need to ask for identity documents from customers. The point of using bitcoin is for anonymity.

stingers also have nothing to do with the website itself. He's just part of its signature campaign (which probably accepts users with a neg trust).

Actually, no. It's not normal for bitcoin betting sites to randomly ask for ID. And I've seen many people online confirm this. This is the ONLY bitcoin betting site that asks for KYC. And Of course I didn't provide full details in this comment because this thread isn't about sportsbet.io. It's about this  legendary member that's a scammer. I'm simply advising people to be cautious of any website this guy promotes since he seems to be a scammer. And sportsbet.io seems to be very shady upon doing some research.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
Interesting. I see he's also shilling for the website sportsbet.io which I'm starting to believe scammed me out of about 1.5 btc by disabling my account for no reason while I still had active bets. Be very wary of any product or website this guy is promoting.
Please create your own thread in the Scam Accusations board.

BTW, the below doesn't make the website a scam. I'm pretty sure 99% of the betting websites request your ID in some cases. Even if they support BTC. Other than that, you didn't say anything or gave any evidence about what the website did.

Hmmm. If this site is rejecting withdrawals made by users and asking them to supply documents, this is just increasing my feeling this site is a scam. There's no reason why a sportsbook should need to ask for identity documents from customers. The point of using bitcoin is for anonymity.

stingers also have nothing to do with the website itself. He's just part of its signature campaign (which probably accepts users with a neg trust).
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Interesting. I see he's also shilling for the website sportsbet.io which I'm starting to believe scammed me out of about 1.5 btc by disabling my account for no reason while I still had active bets. Be very wary of any product or website this guy is promoting.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 6581
be constructive or S.T.F.U


The main problem is that people don't always check a person's trust rating or ignore it when they do, or they give more weight to positive trust than they should. 

exactly ^^
legendary
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of course i checked the negative reviews ! . it was only from "Lauda" and i did read why did Lauda gave him that negative feed back. it didn't make sense. also after checking Lauda's reviews i found Ognasty ( a member that i highly trust) accusing Lauda for a lot of things so i assumed that her review is irrelavent. i also didn't think that someone with a legendary rank would scam someone for 150$ . anyway this is more of a warning for others rather than me complaining !


You read what you wanted to see, because you got greedy and thought that you were getting an advantage in a deal. You should never deal with anyone who has negative trust, legendary status is irrelevant.


dude , i bought well over 3000 bitmain coupons on the forum " many members here can confirm" that's well over 250k USD "aka quarter a million " , i got scammed a few times for more money than this, on the other hand i met a lot of legit people. i wasn't greedy as you may think , i was foolish Cheesy to think that a legendary status means something when it clearly doesn't Cheesy. because i had dealth some a legendary members with no escrow and things were smooth !
 as for your point of  " You should never deal with anyone who has negative trust"    i have to disagree to this because many negative reviews are based on "personal bullshit and drama" that's why you can always reference your reviews to support your case, a lot of legit people here have their walls painted in red because of so many reasons , for an instance once somebody accuses someone else for being a scammer chances are the person accused will post the same shit on accuser trust page and then at least one of those reviews will be irrelevant if not both . i am not sure if you getting my point !

anyhow, thanks for the reply.



legendary
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It's not meaningless.
Not entirely, but in my mind it doesn't mean a hell of a lot either.  The reason I say that is because I know all too well that accounts are bought and sold here--Legendary accounts among them, and sometimes with green trust as well.  Having said that, there are some folks here I'd trust to do deals with, with no escrow, but I'm aware of how risky it is.

The main problem is that people don't always check a person's trust rating or ignore it when they do, or they give more weight to positive trust than they should.  I've been guilty of that in the past, and I got scammed--and I've been fairly paranoid ever since.
legendary
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of course i checked the negative reviews ! . it was only from "Lauda" and i did read why did Lauda gave him that negative feed back. it didn't make sense. also after checking Lauda's reviews i found Ognasty ( a member that i highly trust) accusing Lauda for a lot of things so i assumed that her review is irrelavent. i also didn't think that someone with a legendary rank would scam someone for 150$ . anyway this is more of a warning for others rather than me complaining !


You read what you wanted to see, because you got greedy and thought that you were getting an advantage in a deal. You should never deal with anyone who has negative trust, legendary status is irrelevant.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 6581
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well i am well aware of the escrow service provided by trusted members, the only draw back is the time it takes for those guys to come online and to arrange the escrow. there are some deals that have to done right on time. and whenever there is reward , there will be a risk.

Yes. But when you are dealing with someone with such a tarnished reputation and with an extremely high risk digital good (Bitmain coupons), I think that the risks that you reduce through using escrow is worth a lot more than the time you may spend waiting for one.

You have to assume that most people who approach you on digital goods section are scammers, if they have a negative trust rating or they're lower ranked. There is no point taking that risk imho sending first.

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i was just naive to think that a "Legendary" ranked member is a huge plus. it turns on out to be meaningless.

It's not meaningless. It just doesn't automatically mean someone is legit, if you know what I mean. Especially when you saw that he had negative ratings on his trust profile, his reputation is already worthless. Always do research, and don't be afraid to ask around before you do a deal or especially send first.


well , i took my chances and i fucked up, lesson learned Cheesy .  i just posted this for others to learn the easy way. thanks for your comment Cheesy
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 101
i wouldn't trade with even satoshi himself if he had a negative karma.
jr. member
Activity: 168
Merit: 1
So the warning "trade with caution" below the username really has a purpose afterall. Unfortunately you learned it the hard way. But thanks to your posts, we can always use your experience in dealing with caution even with high ranking members.

Edit: with this I begin to think, which one should worthless jr. members like me target, high merit or good reputation?
hero member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 596
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well i am well aware of the escrow service provided by trusted members, the only draw back is the time it takes for those guys to come online and to arrange the escrow. there are some deals that have to done right on time. and whenever there is reward , there will be a risk.

Yes. But when you are dealing with someone with such a tarnished reputation and with an extremely high risk digital good (Bitmain coupons), I think that the risks that you reduce through using escrow is worth a lot more than the time you may spend waiting for one.

You have to assume that most people who approach you on digital goods section are scammers, if they have a negative trust rating or they're lower ranked. There is no point taking that risk imho sending first.

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i was just naive to think that a "Legendary" ranked member is a huge plus. it turns on out to be meaningless.

It's not meaningless. It just doesn't automatically mean someone is legit, if you know what I mean. Especially when you saw that he had negative ratings on his trust profile, his reputation is already worthless. Always do research, and don't be afraid to ask around before you do a deal or especially send first.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 6581
be constructive or S.T.F.U
of course i checked the negative reviews ! . it was only from "Lauda" and i did read why did Lauda gave him that negative feed back. it didn't make sense. also after checking Lauda's reviews i found Ognasty ( a member that i highly trust) accusing Lauda for a lot of things so i assumed that her review is irrelavent. i also didn't think that someone with a legendary rank would scam someone for 150$ . anyway this is more of a warning for others rather than me complaining !




There are some who scammed for alot less. Its always wise to use escrow in such a situation. You most likely wont see anything back from this user but as for future reference, use an escrow. There are many who are trusted here.

well i am well aware of the escrow service provided by trusted members, the only draw back is the time it takes for those guys to come online and to arrange the escrow. there are some deals that have to done right on time. and whenever there is reward , there will be a risk. i do have some rules regarding sending money first, i do stick to them all the time , i was just naive to think that a "Legendary" ranked member is a huge plus. it turns on out to be meaningless. so i added this to my list of rules Cheesy .

Thanks 
hero member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 753
Unfortunately, a legendary account means nothing when you don't have a reputation.

There are hundreds if not thousands of hero members and legendary accounts that are owned by scammers. Rank really means nothing if you don't a reputation, and in this case, he even got tagged before all of this happened.

Check the trust ratings of someone next time before you conduct business deals with them. Always use escrow, unless the amount is low ($150 is still a lot, and scammers will have their eyes set on you even if their ranks are high), or the person you're dealing with is extremely trusted.

Hopefully you learned your lesson. Don't assume anyone as legit before you do research here.
hero member
Activity: 1582
Merit: 759
I think everyone on this forum has some form of a scam story to tell unfortunately.

That's the problem with negative rep, for scammers, once an account doesn't have a clean record, it's almost a throw away account. They're more likely to scam again once they have negative rep.

I'm sorry for your luck! I'd hope he comes back and figures it out. It's not like it was a new account, and he did have some positive rep on his account, so I see where you were coming from.
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 49
You just got a lesson for a cost of $150..😂

Nothing Comes free my friend, every learning Costs something...

Once, I was also scammed nearly $3000... But that $3000 taught me a lot... Now I always try to be careful while perform transactions over Internet... One important advice I can give is -

"Always consult with Experts in Such issues & Think twice before making any payments "
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