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legendary
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Didn't you read the whole thing? It's about the right to contract. Abortion isn't a right. But anybody can do anything that they can do.

The woman made her choice when she decided to put herself in a position where she might get pregnant. She made an agreement at that time. Same as anybody making a contract, they have the ability to break the contract. Abortion isn't a right. The rights stopped when they made the contract to get pregnant.

If they break the contract they made, that's when they become like a shooter in a school... a murderer. Both, the shooter and the woman, can do something that they have the ability, but not the right, to do.

A shooter can get away with it to some extent. But the laws need to be changed allowing teachers and even students to be armed for their own protection. As it is, there are armed police in many schools... there to protect people from shooters. Many schools even have armed teachers.

The sad thing is that nobody seems to know how to take the woman to court for breaking the contract.

Cool

Did these sign a contract dumBAss?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/25/abortion-after-rape-laws-bans

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Nearly 65,000 US rape victims could not get an abortion in their state, analysis shows

Researchers estimated likely number of rape-related pregnancies in 14 states with near-total abortion bans since Dobbs ruling

The core problem is that you are imposing your ideology on others. You are no-one to decide what a woman can and cannot do with her body. If you think it is not right, then you will have to convince the woman that it is not right, not to force her to have an unwanted pregnancy. What you are doing is in practice make her choose between a life-long unwanted situation, a back-alley abortion risking her life or a long bus to an estate (or to another country for that matter) that allows her to make her choices.

The result is that people who can pay the ticked can interrupt and poor people will have unwanted children that will have a shitty life and statistically end up in prison (paid with your taxes, because I know that's what you care about) or wonder about why "his mom did not want them" each time they look at their foster parents.


Common sense tells us to do unto others what we would have them do unto us. If the fetus is healthy, don't murder it. The fact that something like rape happened to you, doesn't mean you need to become a killer.

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Sorry, but you are changing goalposts. You argued that a women who has sex enters a contract and accepts the consequences. Since that is not true, you have no gone to something else.

You are obviously unable to understand human feelings and have replaced that with a set of rules dictated by a group of people who argue to speak in the name of a superior, yet impossible to prove entity.

Common sense tells normal people that a women pregnant as a result of a rape has her onw right to make a decision. You may think it is not right, but you are not the one who is going to live with a child who has the face of the bastard who raped you. This is obvious for non-psychopathic people, but not to you.

Again, if you think it is not right, do not do it, but you have no right to make that decision for others. And no, a fetus is not a human sentient being until the pregnancy is ell advanced. It does not have a brain, does not have a nervous system, does not even have a heart until a certain date. That is not a human being more than an amoeba in your gut.

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Didn't you read the whole thing? It's about the right to contract. Abortion isn't a right. But anybody can do anything that they can do.

The woman made her choice when she decided to put herself in a position where she might get pregnant. She made an agreement at that time. Same as anybody making a contract, they have the ability to break the contract. Abortion isn't a right. The rights stopped when they made the contract to get pregnant.

If they break the contract they made, that's when they become like a shooter in a school... a murderer. Both, the shooter and the woman, can do something that they have the ability, but not the right, to do.

A shooter can get away with it to some extent. But the laws need to be changed allowing teachers and even students to be armed for their own protection. As it is, there are armed police in many schools... there to protect people from shooters. Many schools even have armed teachers.

The sad thing is that nobody seems to know how to take the woman to court for breaking the contract.

Cool

Did these sign a contract dumBAss?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/25/abortion-after-rape-laws-bans

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Nearly 65,000 US rape victims could not get an abortion in their state, analysis shows

Researchers estimated likely number of rape-related pregnancies in 14 states with near-total abortion bans since Dobbs ruling

The core problem is that you are imposing your ideology on others. You are no-one to decide what a woman can and cannot do with her body. If you think it is not right, then you will have to convince the woman that it is not right, not to force her to have an unwanted pregnancy. What you are doing is in practice make her choose between a life-long unwanted situation, a back-alley abortion risking her life or a long bus to an estate (or to another country for that matter) that allows her to make her choices.

The result is that people who can pay the ticked can interrupt and poor people will have unwanted children that will have a shitty life and statistically end up in prison (paid with your taxes, because I know that's what you care about) or wonder about why "his mom did not want them" each time they look at their foster parents.


Common sense tells us to do unto others what we would have them do unto us. If the fetus is healthy, don't murder it. The fact that something like rape happened to you, doesn't mean you need to become a killer.

Cool
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And the eugenicists love their abortion.

Not when it's white women getting them.

What's most important is stopping diversity.  Forcing black and brown women to get abortions and preventing white women from having access to abortions have the same effect.  

Luckily America has grown and the days of being repulsed by the idea of diversity is in the past...

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Interesting you mention that. Because indeed some of the genetics researchers have attempted to identify certain alleles that might lead result in a propensity to violence, or even poor impulse control.

Whether their hypothesis has any merit or not isn't for me to say. But it serves nexus for the eugenics argument, that certain genes must be removed from the gene pool. And the eugenicists love their abortion.
Um. Half of the human population has some genetic information (otherwise known as a Y chromosome) that makes them a lot more likely to end up in prison and/or die young. Crime genes exist.

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legendary
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Anti-abortion laws have been proven to increase criminality and social problems - no wonder, unwanted children are guaranteed a shitty start in life.

Babies aren't born criminals, you know.
Are you sure babies are not born with crime genes? Because I am pretty sure the 2017 Las Vegas shooter got crime genes from his criminal father.

Please get tested for crime genes.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Interesting you mention that. Because indeed some of the genetics researchers have attempted to identify certain alleles that might lead result in a propensity to violence, or even poor impulse control.

Whether their hypothesis has any merit or not isn't for me to say. But it serves nexus for the eugenics argument, that certain genes must be removed from the gene pool. And the eugenicists love their abortion.
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The choice was always there.

Considered school shooters. They go into a school and shoot it up, killing some, wounding others. Much of the time they shoot themselves afterward. Why? Because they know that they have murdered a bunch of people, and they know that they will probably be punished with death, anyway. The point is that they had free choice to do this.


It is quite messed up you bring the topic of mass shootings in schools to argue on the issue of right for women to abort or not.
Shooters and murderers always had the choice to re-consider their plans and perhaps stop what they are going to do before it is too late, but what about the other students of the school and the staff of the institution?. They obviously sis not have a choice, they were just there minding their own business and doing their job (how they are supposed to) untill some madman walked in and decided all of them must die.
Ironically, each time there is a school shooting and people start to talk about gun laws, the Republican representatives and lawmakers say it is not the moment to talk about politics or those events are not supposed to be politicized by the media.... still, here you are politicizing the death of of innocent students in the United States to try to make a point on a topic which is completely unrelated to it.
Shame on you.

Didn't you read the whole thing? It's about the right to contract. Abortion isn't a right. But anybody can do anything that they can do.

The woman made her choice when she decided to put herself in a position where she might get pregnant. She made an agreement at that time. Same as anybody making a contract, they have the ability to break the contract. Abortion isn't a right. The rights stopped when they made the contract to get pregnant.

If they break the contract they made, that's when they become like a shooter in a school... a murderer. Both, the shooter and the woman, can do something that they have the ability, but not the right, to do.

A shooter can get away with it to some extent. But the laws need to be changed allowing teachers and even students to be armed for their own protection. As it is, there are armed police in many schools... there to protect people from shooters. Many schools even have armed teachers.

The sad thing is that nobody seems to know how to take the woman to court for breaking the contract.

Cool

Did these sign a contract dumBAss?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/25/abortion-after-rape-laws-bans

Quote
Nearly 65,000 US rape victims could not get an abortion in their state, analysis shows

Researchers estimated likely number of rape-related pregnancies in 14 states with near-total abortion bans since Dobbs ruling

The core problem is that you are imposing your ideology on others. You are no-one to decide what a woman can and cannot do with her body. If you think it is not right, then you will have to convince the woman that it is not right, not to force her to have an unwanted pregnancy. What you are doing is in practice make her choose between a life-long unwanted situation, a back-alley abortion risking her life or a long bus to an estate (or to another country for that matter) that allows her to make her choices.

The result is that people who can pay the ticked can interrupt and poor people will have unwanted children that will have a shitty life and statistically end up in prison (paid with your taxes, because I know that's what you care about) or wonder about why "his mom did not want them" each time they look at their foster parents.

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Anti-abortion laws have been proven to increase criminality and social problems - no wonder, unwanted children are guaranteed a shitty start in life.

Babies aren't born criminals, you know.
Are you sure babies are not born with crime genes? Because I am pretty sure the 2017 Las Vegas shooter got crime genes from his criminal father.

Please get tested for crime genes.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.
legendary
Activity: 2828
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Anti-abortion laws have been proven to increase criminality and social problems - no wonder, unwanted children are guaranteed a shitty start in life.

Babies aren't born criminals, you know.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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The choice was always there.

Considered school shooters. They go into a school and shoot it up, killing some, wounding others. Much of the time they shoot themselves afterward. Why? Because they know that they have murdered a bunch of people, and they know that they will probably be punished with death, anyway. The point is that they had free choice to do this.


It is quite messed up you bring the topic of mass shootings in schools to argue on the issue of right for women to abort or not.
Shooters and murderers always had the choice to re-consider their plans and perhaps stop what they are going to do before it is too late, but what about the other students of the school and the staff of the institution?. They obviously sis not have a choice, they were just there minding their own business and doing their job (how they are supposed to) untill some madman walked in and decided all of them must die.
Ironically, each time there is a school shooting and people start to talk about gun laws, the Republican representatives and lawmakers say it is not the moment to talk about politics or those events are not supposed to be politicized by the media.... still, here you are politicizing the death of of innocent students in the United States to try to make a point on a topic which is completely unrelated to it.
Shame on you.

Didn't you read the whole thing? It's about the right to contract. Abortion isn't a right. But anybody can do anything that they can do.

The woman made her choice when she decided to put herself in a position where she might get pregnant. She made an agreement at that time. Same as anybody making a contract, they have the ability to break the contract. Abortion isn't a right. The rights stopped when they made the contract to get pregnant.

If they break the contract they made, that's when they become like a shooter in a school... a murderer. Both, the shooter and the woman, can do something that they have the ability, but not the right, to do.

A shooter can get away with it to some extent. But the laws need to be changed allowing teachers and even students to be armed for their own protection. As it is, there are armed police in many schools... there to protect people from shooters. Many schools even have armed teachers.

The sad thing is that nobody seems to know how to take the woman to court for breaking the contract.

Cool
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WOMEN WHO HAVE ABORTIONS DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR BREASTS REMOVED!!!

Why punish the men?
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The choice was always there.

Considered school shooters. They go into a school and shoot it up, killing some, wounding others. Much of the time they shoot themselves afterward. Why? Because they know that they have murdered a bunch of people, and they know that they will probably be punished with death, anyway. The point is that they had free choice to do this.


It is quite messed up you bring the topic of mass shootings in schools to argue on the issue of right for women to abort or not.
Shooters and murderers always had the choice to re-consider their plans and perhaps stop what they are going to do before it is too late, but what about the other students of the school and the staff of the institution?. They obviously sis not have a choice, they were just there minding their own business and doing their job (how they are supposed to) untill some madman walked in and decided all of them must die.
Ironically, each time there is a school shooting and people start to talk about gun laws, the Republican representatives and lawmakers say it is not the moment to talk about politics or those events are not supposed to be politicized by the media.... still, here you are politicizing the death of of innocent students in the United States to try to make a point on a topic which is completely unrelated to it.
Shame on you.
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It is too bad that the Kamala voters are so annoying that they are busy trying their hardest to annoy as many people as possible into voting for Trump.

WOMEN WHO HAVE ABORTIONS DESERVE TO HAVE THEIR BREASTS REMOVED!!!

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.
legendary
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The choice was always there.

Considered school shooters. They go into a school and shoot it up, killing some, wounding others. Much of the time they shoot themselves afterward. Why? Because they know that they have murdered a bunch of people, and they know that they will probably be punished with death, anyway. The point is that they had free choice to do this.

It's similar with everybody who sneakily harms anybody else. The courts show all kinds of fraud that people do against other people by not fulfilling their contractual obligations. They always have choice... first to contract or not to contract, and then to fulfill the terms of the contract they agreed to.

Abortion is a little bit different. The people being aborted don't know how, and don't have the ability, to stand up for their rights. So, those doing the aborting process can much more easily get away with the contract-breaking and the murder that they are doing.

Abortion, except in rare circumstances, is totally wrong, and against American and British principles. But mostly it is against Godly principles. People don't realize Proverbs 28:17:
Anyone tormented by the guilt of murder will seek refuge in the grave; let no one hold them back.

This is the way that women who abort their children feel, way down deep... and many feel it right out in the open, even at the same time that they are doing it.

Promoting unrighteous activity in life should be met with the same punishment as doing the unrighteous activity.

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Donald Trump has reversed 50 years of progress on women’s reproductive rights and, if elected, he will make sure abortion is banned across the United States.

Anti-abortion laws have been proven to increase criminality and social problems - no wonder, unwanted children are guaranteed a shitty start in life.

I still have my doubts whether Donald Trump would actually dare to establish a complete abortion ban nationwide in the United States if he happens to win in two weeks. On one hand, he would not need to worry about the consequences of his actions, as it would be he last term, so he could act in a more unhinged and unleashed way with no electoral punishment from voters, though on the other hand, if he decided to proceed to  push such law through the house and the congress it would mean Republicans could experiment a serious backlash in the next midterm elections and lose much of the control of the house and the senate to democrats, not even mention what could happen in the next presidential election.

So my in my mind, I dont think Donald Trump is specially concerned in making such ideas against abortion into law as a priority, he just has not answered when someone asked him during interviews because he knows there is an importante percentage of voters who want him to do it, and he does not want to spoil the momentum of that part of the republican base until the election day, Let us see..
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All the single ladies, all the single ladies... If you are tired of priests, men, lawmakers and religious Taliban telling you what should or should not be in your uterus, you have an option:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/26/harris-and-beyonce-rally-on-abortion-rights-in-texas

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Harris tells huge Houston crowd that American women now have fewer reproductive rights than their mothers and grandmothers.

Remember, this is not encouraging termination of pregnancy, this is about giving the choice to the people who really have to make such decision. It is not "the States" it is not "the Government" and it is not the local priest. It is you and nobody else.

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Donald Trump has reversed 50 years of progress on women’s reproductive rights and, if elected, he will make sure abortion is banned across the United States.

Anti-abortion laws have been proven to increase criminality and social problems - no wonder, unwanted children are guaranteed a shitty start in life.
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