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Topic: Kano deletes posts he doesn't like. - page 2. (Read 1968 times)

newbie
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October 31, 2017, 01:29:21 AM
#10

IMHO is not rudness, more like um, kicking someone into perhaps learning more about mining and what is involved in it. With so many of the same queries over and over generally dealing with payments, 5n and, PPLNS - all which are explained as clearly as possible on the site - well one gets testy.

I myself am rather known as short and to-the -point generally because a very simple Google search will give better answers to a lot of general mining questions not to mention rather specific ones such as dealing with AC power, cooling, etc.. Ya know, the whole 'Give a person a fish, teach a person to fish' thing. I do it to prod them into not just getting one answer but hopefully to also learn some of the 'why' behind it.

Mining does involve a modicum of know-how in various things and mining basics are well covered on numerous sites/youtubes etc. You are making a sizeable investment so read/watch all you can about mining -- the info is out there!

Yeah I agree with a lot of what you have to say, but if Kano doesn't want to answer people, he doesn't even have to.  Not everyone is cut out for handling customer service.  Some people shouldn't even try it.  Other people in the forum are eager to help new people even when questions have been asked and answered many times.

But, like I said before, you and many other people may not be bothered by his rudeness.  You may be so knowledgeable about bitcoin mining that you never have a question anyway.

But at one time you were a newbie.  And many newbies come along all the time and just because rudeness doesn't bother you, it doesn't mean it won't bother everyone.  Newbies find the Kano Pool thread on this BitcoinTalk forum and expect that it should be an easy place to ask a question, even if it's a retarded question.  That is what the thread is for right?  Or why even have it?  And let's face it, a thread on BitcoinTalk is not an easy place to search for previous answers to a question.  It won't even allow you to do multiple searches without agonizing and pointless waiting times between searches.  I have no idea what that is all about.  I don't see how there can be a spamming exploit that can be abused because of being allowed to search.  BitcoinTalk is pretty clumsy, and non-user-friendly, especially for a new user.

Of course, that isn't Kano's fault.  But he should know it.  And he chose here to have his little thread going, rather than to set up something more user friendly himself or choose another forum.

I suppose I have digressed a bit.  My only point is that not everyone is as tolerant of rude and snide treatment as you may be.  People will just leave.  Even if it makes no sense to you that they do.  They do.  I did.  And he never even said anything to me.  I just got tired of the childish attitude toward others.  I enjoyed what others had to talk about.  But luckily, there are more pools out there.  And I am not sure if there is any pool out there that has lower earnings than Kano Pool at this time, so I am glad to be gone for more than one reason.
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
October 30, 2017, 08:54:23 PM
#9

Oh, I understand that rudeness isn't something that bothers everyone.  I just pointed out that some people are bothered by it.  For me, it depends. When rudeness it domes with smug (I'm better than you) attitude and in a situation where I am a customer of sorts, I can just go somewhere else.

As for your reason for leaving Kano Pool, I can't blame you.  Something seems to be wrong with it.  I don't pretend to know what is wrong, but I find it highly improbable that "luck" is to blame.  If Bitcoin mining had a version of "Selling Short," I'd be all over Kano Pool!
IMHO is not rudness, more like um, kicking someone into perhaps learning more about mining and what is involved in it. With so many of the same queries over and over generally dealing with payments, 5n and, PPLNS - all which are explained as clearly as possible on the site - well one gets testy.

I myself am rather known as short and to-the -point generally because a very simple Google search will give better answers to a lot of general mining questions not to mention rather specific ones such as dealing with AC power, cooling, etc.. Ya know, the whole 'Give a person a fish, teach a person to fish' thing. I do it to prod them into not just getting one answer but hopefully to also learn some of the 'why' behind it.

Mining does involve a modicum of know-how in various things and mining basics are well covered on numerous sites/youtubes etc. You are making a sizeable investment so read/watch all you can about mining -- the info is out there!
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 30, 2017, 08:39:42 PM
#8

I left kano pool
I did not join slush.
I now mine at :

viabtc.com--  I mine BCC/BCH
f2pool.com--  I mine btc --------------- I will soon be moving to nicehash
nicehash ---- well I sell hash there
zpool -------- I mine various algos.

For me  kano pool has a big issue  fees are pushed to me  via  his payout system
same problem with f2pool

Kano rude so what  I went to school in brooklyn for 12 years I can deal with rude.

here is a mining address I use


https://blockchain.info/address/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

if you study it you will see I have spent high fees moving funds out of it.

Oh, I understand that rudeness isn't something that bothers everyone.  I just pointed out that some people are bothered by it.  For me, it depends. When rudeness it domes with smug (I'm better than you) attitude and in a situation where I am a customer of sorts, I can just go somewhere else.

As for your reason for leaving Kano Pool, I can't blame you.  Something seems to be wrong with it.  I don't pretend to know what is wrong, but I find it highly improbable that "luck" is to blame.  If Bitcoin mining had a version of "Selling Short," I'd be all over Kano Pool!
legendary
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Merit: 7765
'The right to privacy matters'
October 30, 2017, 11:20:27 AM
#7

I'm not debating.  I just attempting point out the hypocrisy of the OP.

It is too popular in recent years to accuse someone else of doing the very thing that they are doing.

And besides, Kano was very up front about his criteria for deleting posts.

I think you may have missed the point.  Whether Kano admits that he deletes posts or gives criteria as to why he does it is beside the point.  He is completely within his right to delete posts and to give a smug attitude toward all the people he wants.  BUT, this kind of behavior doesn't come without consequences.  There is no hypocrisy.  The OP of this thread isn't trying to garner "customers" for lack of a better word.  Kano is.  He lost me.  His pool didn't lose me.  He did.  He is skillful in the fact that he put together the pool in the first place, which is admirable.  But, he's rude.  Rudeness has its price.  He has every right to be rude.  He has every right to censor people on his pool's thread on Bitcoin Forum.

People who are the recipients of Kano's petulant tongue lashings and censorship don't have to take it.  They can move on.  You most likely won't hear from most people who do move on.  They just go.

So you see, it doesn't matter how well you defend his actions, it doesn't get me to join his pool again.  Even if I am wrong about taking any kind of offense to his snark or censorship, I can and will take offense, nonetheless.  That's why the "customer is always wrong" approach never works.  Kano can feel free to use it though.  It's his business.

Oh, and yes, I do like Slush Pool.  They charge more, but they don't try to use a lower charge to justify treating me like a peon.  I fly a lot and when I do, I fly first class.  Why would I do that if it costs more?  Because they treat me like a king.  

I left kano pool
I did not join slush.
I now mine at :

viabtc.com--  I mine BCC/BCH
f2pool.com--  I mine btc --------------- I will soon be moving to nicehash
nicehash ---- well I sell hash there
zpool -------- I mine various algos.

For me  kano pool has a big issue  fees are pushed to me  via  his payout system
same problem with f2pool

Kano rude so what  I went to school in brooklyn for 12 years I can deal with rude.

here is a mining address I use


https://blockchain.info/address/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

if you study it you will see I have spent high fees moving funds out of it.
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 29, 2017, 10:16:55 AM
#6

I'm not debating.  I just attempting point out the hypocrisy of the OP.

It is too popular in recent years to accuse someone else of doing the very thing that they are doing.

And besides, Kano was very up front about his criteria for deleting posts.

I think you may have missed the point.  Whether Kano admits that he deletes posts or gives criteria as to why he does it is beside the point.  He is completely within his right to delete posts and to give a smug attitude toward all the people he wants.  BUT, this kind of behavior doesn't come without consequences.  There is no hypocrisy.  The OP of this thread isn't trying to garner "customers" for lack of a better word.  Kano is.  He lost me.  His pool didn't lose me.  He did.  He is skillful in the fact that he put together the pool in the first place, which is admirable.  But, he's rude.  Rudeness has its price.  He has every right to be rude.  He has every right to censor people on his pool's thread on Bitcoin Forum.

People who are the recipients of Kano's petulant tongue lashings and censorship don't have to take it.  They can move on.  You most likely won't hear from most people who do move on.  They just go.

So you see, it doesn't matter how well you defend his actions, it doesn't get me to join his pool again.  Even if I am wrong about taking any kind of offense to his snark or censorship, I can and will take offense, nonetheless.  That's why the "customer is always wrong" approach never works.  Kano can feel free to use it though.  It's his business.

Oh, and yes, I do like Slush Pool.  They charge more, but they don't try to use a lower charge to justify treating me like a peon.  I fly a lot and when I do, I fly first class.  Why would I do that if it costs more?  Because they treat me like a king.  
legendary
Activity: 3578
Merit: 1090
Think for yourself
October 29, 2017, 09:36:01 AM
#5
Oh no! The "what you say is what you are" debate technique!  I'm rusty dealing with that one, since I haven't heard it since 2nd grade, so you win!

I'm not debating.  I just attempting point out the hypocrisy of the OP.

It is too popular in recent years to accuse someone else of doing the very thing that they are doing.

And besides, Kano was very up front about his criteria for deleting posts.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
October 29, 2017, 08:47:29 AM
#4
Oh no! The "what you say is what you are" debate technique!  I'm rusty dealing with that one, since I haven't heard it since 2nd grade, so you win!
legendary
Activity: 3578
Merit: 1090
Think for yourself
October 29, 2017, 08:40:26 AM
#3
1.  So what.
2.  Your post sounds petulant, whiny and childish.

Good luck at Slush.
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 29, 2017, 08:32:29 AM
#2
Bingo!  I was mining on Kano Pool and was doing well.  I left the pool, because of Kano himself and his attitude in the forum.  I went to Slush.  I made slightly less on Slush, but it was worth it for a couple of reasons.  Everyone is friendly.  You don't have to feel like you are walking on eggshells because of some whiny child running the place who will delete your posts all the time.  And you don't have to deal with others who cow-tow to the child like little sycophants.  Slush miners chat in IRC as well and are always happy to answer questions, even for noobs.

It's too bad Kano is so immature.  If he were more professional, his pool would grow by leaps and bounds.  I would join it again if it were under new management.
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 29, 2017, 08:30:26 AM
#1
I was thinking about mining on the Kano Pool, but I like to monitor a pool's stats for a while before I dive in.  It looked promising at first.  I have been lurking on the forum that Kano runs for a couple months and watching the blocks the pool hits.  I decided not to join the pool, because it has been abysmal lately.  I don't think a worse run of luck has ever hit any pool.  The size of the pool has been cut by a third of the size it was a month ago.  People are bailing.

The rotten luck the pool is having isn't the main reason I won't join though.  Kano's immature, bratty attitude is why I won't join.  If people ask questions, Kano makes snide remarks about them not having read the FAQs or tells them they should have read what he posted earlier, as if they were psychic and knew he posted earlier.  He doesn't just refer them to the earlier post, he tries to make them feel stupid for not having found it themselves.  Hey, maybe they are stupid, but if growing his pool is a goal, Kano sure as heck doesn't know the first thing about diplomacy or manners. It should be noted that other people on the forum are more than happy to answer peoples' questions, so Kano shouldn't even have to feel put out as if he has to answer every question in the first place.  

Worst of all, if anything says anything negative about the pool he deletes their posts.  If people say they quit the pool, even politely, he deletes their post.  He tries to build the illusion that everyone is happy.  They aren't.  I have seen posts appear and then get deleted right away.  People see Kano as a petulant child who is prone to tantrums.  Maybe if Kano spent more time learning manners and how to be friendly and less time pretending to pray to cartoon anime "goddesses," as he calls them, he would be more successful.  I actually wish him great success, because it's pools like his that I want to see grow.  But first he has to grow up himself.

So, in conclusion, the reason I have decided not to join the Kano pool isn't because of it's horrible record finding blocks.  It's because of Kano.
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