Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 1335. (Read 5352429 times)

Just got up...I'd seen the original post before I crashed, got sort of a kick out of it. Clearly doesn't have a clue, and IMHO is focused on mining for not so good reasons. When I first got into btc years ago, I of course cpu mined, then gpu. It just doesn't make sense anymore either in terms of what it does to a decently managed pool, or to your electric bill (I've got a Radeon card that will do 800MH, but it draws 400W...no longer reasonable at all...it's sitting on a shelf).

Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Kano.

EDIT: Well...it's sitting on the shelf until I can find a workable driver for 16.04LTS, and then it'll go into Caprica (my workstation) to assuage my feelings of inadequacy whilst running fractals just for kicks... 

He was also CPU mining.

The --compac-freq option in Database's command line indicates that he's mining with the Sidehack Compac stick. He's not CPU mining, although clearly a Compac's single ASIC is not capable of very much hash.

He'd probably be better off solo mining with his stick, which is what I do with mine.

But I think I've seen other people posting on this thread that they point their sticks here, even though they probably only accumulate dust (especially now after the halving). In order to be fair to everyone, is there a posted minimum hash rate that will be accepted by the pool?

Around the same as 1 single S7 ...

Aha I see. Great explanation - now it's clear.

We don't want anything to make the pool less efficient so all the bots and non-ASICS should not be allowed in Kano pool.

interesting story lol. I can't imagine how much 143000 cpu's can hash.

A singe CPU miner uses the same outgoing resources as a single 1PH proxy ... or any other smaller or larger single connection to the pool.
The only difference is the incoming shares.

Normally all connections to the pool return around 18 shares a minute.
A low hashing (less than about 55GHs) connection will return less.
But the point being that it requires the same outgoing resources as any other connection on the pool.
Thus it is a complete waste.

The twit over at the tiny eligius pool pointed out exactly why this is an issue when he was bragging here.
They allow botnets. They have something like 250,000 connections to their pool. So their pool has to handle sending out work to 250,000 miners every time they change work. More than 200,000 of those would be from botnets.

Here we change work every 30 seconds so that we are adding in new transactions soon after they are available.
You can see on the web page how many connections we have for over 40PH ... a bit over 9000 - sometimes up to 10,000.
Not 200,000 or 100,000 or even 50,000. Usually under 10,000

A couple of times I've had people come to IRC and say they have bot nets, one even provided an image showing he had 143,000 bots.
I told them they weren't wanted, and kicked them out of the channel and banned them

I guess that should make clear what I think of CPU mining (or GPU mining)

CPU mining? Really?

CPU? Who does SHA256 mining on a CPU? even a super duper CPU would likely not even match a GPU what more an ASIC based SHA256 miner.

This maybe a dumb question but I would like to understand, how would CPU mining be of any impact to PPLNS pool?

All done, and the hash rate and user count on SG is back now too.

and there it is

SG node will be getting a RAM upgrade within the next hour.

I've redirected SG to JP since that's the closest, so if you connect between now and when the upgrade is finished, you'll end up on JP.

We'll also send a reconnect to everyone on SG to JP just before it's shutdown for the upgrade.

Upgrade should only take a few minutes, then everything will be switched back.

I'll post again once it's all done.

Edit: block by honeybadger

hopefully we get a block soon lol need payouts to pay for some stuff tonight

I blocked you for cpu mining on the pool.
End of story.

Thanks for the input, are there any other stats on the page that you watch?

Haha!  You beat me to the punch!  I was just about to answer that question!

Hash rate is your ckpool determined hash rate over the last hour, however if you've been connected for less than an hour, it's the 5 minute value.

Share rate is a value calculated using the shares you have submitted in the last «Elapsed time frame.

They have different uses and different accuracies.

Hash rate is the more accurate estimate of your miner's hash rate.

Share rate is to show you that you are sending shares to the pool and roughly what that represents in hash rate, but is not very accurate.
i.e. if you point a miner at the pool, you'll get immedite feedback about it submitting shares and a rough idea of the hash rate.
The Share Rate and «Elapsed resets every network block.
Since «Elapsed is usually a short time frame, Share Rate is not an accurate measurement of the miner's hash rate.

Hash Rate updates once per minute, the rest of the numbers on the workers page are up to date to the second.

Well
2.5
2.5
12
12
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Are about 41 th

So you should get to close to that it takes a bit of time.

Gotcha, thanks for the info! I'm still learning how Kano works, i appreciate the response 

Can anyone provide any input on the important indicators to monitor on the workers page? Right now share rate and hash rate have me stumped... I'm just trying to make sure my miners are running in the most profitable manner on the pool. I'm running two S7-LN's and three S9's, trying to figure out what the "norm" is for these boxes on the pool.

No, they should be sent on the next block we find.

Has payment for blocks 420933, 420939, 420942 been sent out yet? I see them queued up in the payments section but i don't know how to verify they've been sent aside from monitoring my wallet. Please pardon the noob question..