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Quote from: bgibso01 on May 15, 2015, 09:38:19 PM

Kano,

Can you check my last few shifts? I've been watching lately and noticed the pool side is running a couple hundred GH lower than my machine reports. For the past couple of hours I'd check the pool and then the machine. The miner has always been showing over 4Th, but the pool worker has been showing 3.83Th.

Thanks,
B.

Your shift graph looks pretty random (as expected) but within expectations.
No problems in the pool logs for you since the last restart.
The actual numbers that relate to the pool in your miner is not the hash rate, but the difficulty accepted and rejected.

They will match the shifts (but of course you'd need to know the delta values in your miner for each shift)
Your shifts show numbers as high as 4.32 and as low as 3.71 - and they probably are within expected variance
... no I'm just guessing

but your shift history shows those values over a long period so they seem fine.

Don't forget that share finding is luck related also, and the higher your diff the higher the variance, it's the longer term average that matters.
I guess what also matters is what hardware and what miner you are using? since various ones don't report GHs reliably and some of the manufacturer versions of cgminer outright lie about the GHs - but I doubt that's the case here - most likely just variance.

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Kano,

Can you check my last few shifts? I've been watching lately and noticed the pool side is running a couple hundred GH lower than my machine reports. For the past couple of hours I'd check the pool and then the machine. The miner has always been showing over 4Th, but the pool worker has been showing 3.83Th.

Thanks,
B.

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Go Big or Go Home.....

I always recommend going hardwired IF at all possible. MUCH more reliable than any other means.

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Quote from: thedreamer on May 15, 2015, 08:46:42 PM

Quote from: -ck on May 15, 2015, 07:57:23 PM

Power line ethernet has its uses but it's limited to hardware that is on the same circuit with each hardware being plugged into proper power outlets without any extension leads, switches, circuit breakers or safety devices between them.

Yup. Much better run a Wireless bridge if the distance is not too great inside a house.

I actually have here a few Netgear Powerline Nano 500 kits that I was sent for eval last year. Huge PoS. In my house it goes from 105MB/s at the router on my 2nd floor to 1.8-3Mb at the receiver in the basement, and sometimes it even disconnects.
No Surgeprotectors plugged in or anything. If you have a house-wide UPS system also, forget about using it.

YRMV though.

Can you just run cat 6 to the outside from the current set up. drill out seal it with silicone to keep bugs and water out go back in to the garage wherever it is convenient. Set up an unmanaged switch and be up at a low cost? 800 to 600 RPM upblast exhaust fan for the garage may need additional cooling past that. Would be less then $500 if you can get a refurbished fan someplace.

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Quote from: -ck on May 15, 2015, 07:57:23 PM

Power line ethernet has its uses but it's limited to hardware that is on the same circuit with each hardware being plugged into proper power outlets without any extension leads, switches, circuit breakers or safety devices between them.

Yup. Much better run a Wireless bridge if the distance is not too great inside a house.

I actually have here a few Netgear Powerline Nano 500 kits that I was sent for eval last year. Huge PoS. In my house it goes from 105MB/s at the router on my 2nd floor to 1.8-3Mb at the receiver in the basement, and sometimes it even disconnects.
No Surgeprotectors plugged in or anything. If you have a house-wide UPS system also, forget about using it.

YRMV though.

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Power line ethernet has its uses but it's limited to hardware that is on the same circuit with each hardware being plugged into proper power outlets without any extension leads, switches, circuit breakers or safety devices between them.

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I don't know if I had as far as a gap, but I've had great success with wireless AC bridging using the TPLink Archer C7. Previously used power line as well and it worked. Have also used MoCA, which creates an ethernet on coaxial cable.

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Quote from: CapnBDL on May 15, 2015, 07:34:46 AM

Quote from: AJRGale on May 14, 2015, 11:45:39 PM

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 10:20:54 PM

I always replace a surge protector after it's been hit...even if it doesn't have the unforgiving order of burnt wiring. Cheaper than replacing the equipment. Thing is, I buy the good ones and go thru ~5 per year. It gets expensive. Keep all the ideas coming for moving these out to the garage. Also, remember it's FL and my garage ain't ACed. Suggestions to keep these somewhat cool? No windows, all cinderblock, not knocking a hole in the wall. lol ( I just know someone was gonna suggest that). Don't know about that problem either. So...got a network to figure out and cooling.

BTW: Thanks group...

hmm.. knock a hole in the wall? ;P

cinder should hold out most of the heat, what's the roof like? tin over beams or got a floating roof? can you pop a vent fan in it (one of them passive domed spiny things) that should remove the stale air out, other then that if the miners don't pass 70 degrees celcius (or 158.0 °F, i think) in there you should be right. plant natives around the building? put some shade up around the side of it? make a 2nd face on the roof with a 6" airgap?

maybe even bury the whole building under 6' of dirt? pipe some air vents 6' underground and some though the roof? heat pipe the roof to ground? umm..

nah, just get a jack hammer and pop a few holes into the cinder Cheesy

There's always one in the crowd, ain't there. Huh

Thanks...needed some humor this morning. Got the tracking number.....I gotsta get'r done. Don't want it sitting there doing nothing. Hmmm

you asked for it, really, you did.

basically, if you can move the warm air out (roof vent) and pull cooler air in from shaded area (screen door). it should do.

as for network, cat5, if you're going simplex or 10Mb/s you should get about 1000m (3280'). at 100Mb/s you can only get 100m (330') out of it.

Wireless could do if, and since kano recommends it try out them powerline networkers, slap one on the powerline out to the shed and the other one to the power to the miners

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Quote from: AJRGale on May 14, 2015, 11:45:39 PM

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 10:20:54 PM

I always replace a surge protector after it's been hit...even if it doesn't have the unforgiving order of burnt wiring. Cheaper than replacing the equipment. Thing is, I buy the good ones and go thru ~5 per year. It gets expensive. Keep all the ideas coming for moving these out to the garage. Also, remember it's FL and my garage ain't ACed. Suggestions to keep these somewhat cool? No windows, all cinderblock, not knocking a hole in the wall. lol ( I just know someone was gonna suggest that). Don't know about that problem either. So...got a network to figure out and cooling.

BTW: Thanks group...

hmm.. knock a hole in the wall? ;P

cinder should hold out most of the heat, what's the roof like? tin over beams or got a floating roof? can you pop a vent fan in it (one of them passive domed spiny things) that should remove the stale air out, other then that if the miners don't pass 70 degrees celcius (or 158.0 °F, i think) in there you should be right. plant natives around the building? put some shade up around the side of it? make a 2nd face on the roof with a 6" airgap?

maybe even bury the whole building under 6' of dirt? pipe some air vents 6' underground and some though the roof? heat pipe the roof to ground? umm..

nah, just get a jack hammer and pop a few holes into the cinder Cheesy

There's always one in the crowd, ain't there. Huh

Thanks...needed some humor this morning. Got the tracking number.....I gotsta get'r done. Don't want it sitting there doing nothing. Hmmm

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Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 10:20:54 PM

I always replace a surge protector after it's been hit...even if it doesn't have the unforgiving order of burnt wiring. Cheaper than replacing the equipment. Thing is, I buy the good ones and go thru ~5 per year. It gets expensive. Keep all the ideas coming for moving these out to the garage. Also, remember it's FL and my garage ain't ACed. Suggestions to keep these somewhat cool? No windows, all cinderblock, not knocking a hole in the wall. lol ( I just know someone was gonna suggest that). Don't know about that problem either. So...got a network to figure out and cooling.

BTW: Thanks group...

hmm.. knock a hole in the wall? ;P

cinder should hold out most of the heat, what's the roof like? tin over beams or got a floating roof? can you pop a vent fan in it (one of them passive domed spiny things) that should remove the stale air out, other then that if the miners don't pass 70 degrees celcius (or 158.0 °F, i think) in there you should be right. plant natives around the building? put some shade up around the side of it? make a 2nd face on the roof with a 6" airgap?

maybe even bury the whole building under 6' of dirt? pipe some air vents 6' underground and some though the roof? heat pipe the roof to ground? umm..

nah, just get a jack hammer and pop a few holes into the cinder Cheesy

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I always replace a surge protector after it's been hit...even if it doesn't have the unforgiving order of burnt wiring. Cheaper than replacing the equipment. Thing is, I buy the good ones and go thru ~5 per year. It gets expensive. Keep all the ideas coming for moving these out to the garage. Also, remember it's FL and my garage ain't ACed. Suggestions to keep these somewhat cool? No windows, all cinderblock, not knocking a hole in the wall. lol ( I just know someone was gonna suggest that). Don't know about that problem either. So...got a network to figure out and cooling.

BTW: Thanks group...

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Quote from: AJRGale on May 14, 2015, 09:49:06 PM

Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 09:40:08 PM

No one in their right mind would run a company server, desktops over a powerline, but a miner is OK.
If you have 100 miners on the other end, you simply put ckproxy there and it's equivalent to not a lot more than one miner Tongue

I ran quite a few miners over the link for years - on the old setup and of course on the (old but newer) faster more reliable setup.
I only have one there at the moment - S5 - coz it's way too loud - the S3s are now upstairs to keep the place warm - it's winter in 2 weeks

My garage miner connection is:
miner - switch - powerline<->powerline - switch - linux router - switch - powerline<->powerline - adls modem - phone line to local exchange
Been running OK for years

but kano, i Like haxn' peoples unsecured powerline networks! i think they should run Everything off it! thats how i can get into their "Nest" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nest_Labs) box and turn on all their lights and put the heaters on max...

...

Lucky mine isn't unsecured ... though at home I'm not sure why I'd care Cheesy

NetComm NP507 600MBs (just looked it up - range is spec'd as 200m)

I also ran an ssh tunnel over the original one I had coz that fixed a problem I had mining at one pool
(though mining at other pools didn't have the same problem - but it seemed to be hop count related and the tunnel reduced the hop count)

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Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 09:40:08 PM

No one in their right mind would run a company server, desktops over a powerline, but a miner is OK.
If you have 100 miners on the other end, you simply put ckproxy there and it's equivalent to not a lot more than one miner Tongue

I ran quite a few miners over the link for years - on the old setup and of course on the (old but newer) faster more reliable setup.
I only have one there at the moment - S5 - coz it's way too loud - the S3s are now upstairs to keep the place warm - it's winter in 2 weeks

My garage miner connection is:
miner - switch - powerline<->powerline - switch - linux router - switch - powerline<->powerline - adls modem - phone line to local exchange
Been running OK for years

but kano, i Like haxn' peoples unsecured powerline networks! i think they should run Everything off it! thats how i can get into their "Nest" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nest_Labs) box and turn on all their lights and put the heaters on max...

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 07:07:10 PM

Thank goodness for power/surge protection...just got zapped. Had to restart everything. That happens a lot here in FL.

Shocked

LIGHTNING

oh gawd.. no magical blue smoke? that protection did its job

ive seen what lightning does to things, even when its miles away.

many many moons ago, had a storm, lightning hit the distribution block. many things like TVs, microwave, power strip, etc. had black points and melted plastics, i think i was only 5 then..

now that im in the business of repairing PCs, every time there is a large storm, 5-6 PSUs i need to replaced around the town

none the less, seeing as lightning kills things, im happy your stuff isn't dead. but replace the surge protector, it may not see you out again, if you are still using it.

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Quote from: thedreamer on May 14, 2015, 09:02:48 PM

Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 07:02:13 PM

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 07:00:19 PM

Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 06:50:55 PM

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Try a powerline product.

I've been using that for years to get to my garage that is two floors down below me in the building basement and no wifi or cable access except that the power in the garage is on my circuit breaker here upstairs so they are connected.
(I upgraded it once in all that time to a new faster one)
My home internet also uses that due to where the adsl telephone line is.

Whats that do...use your home wiring?

Google powerline.

It runs ethernet over your internal power wiring.
Works great for me

Be careful with powerline products. Their signal to noise ratio and speeds are pretty bad. I've tested a few for clients and decided to ever use one. Even after getting them for free for evals from the manufacturers. Cheesy

Also most of them you can't use with surge protections or UPS's and have to be plugged in directly to the wall outlets.

No one in their right mind would run a company server, desktops over a powerline, but a miner is OK.
If you have 100 miners on the other end, you simply put ckproxy there and it's equivalent to not a lot more than one miner Tongue

I ran quite a few miners over the link for years - on the old setup and of course on the (old but newer) faster more reliable setup.
I only have one there at the moment - S5 - coz it's way too loud - the S3s are now upstairs to keep the place warm - it's winter in 2 weeks

My garage miner connection is:
miner - switch - powerline<->powerline - switch - linux router - switch - powerline<->powerline - adls modem - phone line to local exchange
Been running OK for years

Edit: though of course check the specs on anything. Mine is 2 floors through the walls and hell only knows where the power cable goes.
But I've no idea how far it is and what the distance limit is on my powerline.

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Quote from: PCComf on May 14, 2015, 09:14:30 PM

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 04:41:28 PM

Quote from: thedreamer on May 14, 2015, 04:37:15 PM

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 04:35:03 PM

OK...I know this is off subject but it will matter to the pool later- How long can you run CAT cable before you have to put a signal booster in the line?

Under 300feet is best.

Thank You...won't be a problem then.

Damn...might have been wrong question. Here..let me tell ya what is happening: Need to move farm to the garage. Picked up an s4 to add to the pool. I have cable TV out there already to feed the router but must locate equipment across the room. (that's where the power is) so.....I either have to extend the cable TV and place router over where equipment will be or use alot of network cable. Ideas pool?? Real problem is gonna be; How do I keep this stuff cool. Moving the S3+ & S4. The little r-Box110s need a computer, so those stay in my front room /w computer. I'm in FL and the garage does heat up...I don't have the answer for that yet. Again...ideas? Told ya it was pool related...lol

For a cheaper and more reliable solution than some of the others mentioned, buy a cheap switch and just run one cable to the cheap switch then shorter cables from that switch to your miners.

I'm afraid I don't understand. You got some splainin' to do Lucy!

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Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 04:41:28 PM

Quote from: thedreamer on May 14, 2015, 04:37:15 PM

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 04:35:03 PM

OK...I know this is off subject but it will matter to the pool later- How long can you run CAT cable before you have to put a signal booster in the line?

Under 300feet is best.

Thank You...won't be a problem then.

Damn...might have been wrong question. Here..let me tell ya what is happening: Need to move farm to the garage. Picked up an s4 to add to the pool. I have cable TV out there already to feed the router but must locate equipment across the room. (that's where the power is) so.....I either have to extend the cable TV and place router over where equipment will be or use alot of network cable. Ideas pool?? Real problem is gonna be; How do I keep this stuff cool. Moving the S3+ & S4. The little r-Box110s need a computer, so those stay in my front room /w computer. I'm in FL and the garage does heat up...I don't have the answer for that yet. Again...ideas? Told ya it was pool related...lol

For a cheaper and more reliable solution than some of the others mentioned, buy a cheap switch and just run one cable to the cheap switch then shorter cables from that switch to your miners.

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Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 07:02:13 PM

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 07:00:19 PM

Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 06:50:55 PM

...
Try a powerline product.

I've been using that for years to get to my garage that is two floors down below me in the building basement and no wifi or cable access except that the power in the garage is on my circuit breaker here upstairs so they are connected.
(I upgraded it once in all that time to a new faster one)
My home internet also uses that due to where the adsl telephone line is.

Whats that do...use your home wiring?

Google powerline.

It runs ethernet over your internal power wiring.
Works great for me

Be careful with powerline products. Their signal to noise ratio and speeds are pretty bad. I've tested a few for clients and decided to ever use one. Even after getting them for free for evals from the manufacturers. Cheesy

Also most of them you can't use with surge protections or UPS's and have to be plugged in directly to the wall outlets.

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Thank goodness for power/surge protection...just got zapped. Had to restart everything. That happens a lot here in FL.

Shocked

LIGHTNING

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Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 07:02:13 PM

Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 07:00:19 PM

Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 06:50:55 PM

...
Try a powerline product.

I've been using that for years to get to my garage that is two floors down below me in the building basement and no wifi or cable access except that the power in the garage is on my circuit breaker here upstairs so they are connected.
(I upgraded it once in all that time to a new faster one)
My home internet also uses that due to where the adsl telephone line is.

Whats that do...use your home wiring?

Google powerline.

It runs ethernet over your internal power wiring.
Works great for me

Great...I'll look it up...thanks

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Quote from: CapnBDL on May 14, 2015, 07:00:19 PM

Quote from: kano on May 14, 2015, 06:50:55 PM

...
Try a powerline product.

I've been using that for years to get to my garage that is two floors down below me in the building basement and no wifi or cable access except that the power in the garage is on my circuit breaker here upstairs so they are connected.
(I upgraded it once in all that time to a new faster one)
My home internet also uses that due to where the adsl telephone line is.

Whats that do...use your home wiring?

Google powerline.

It runs ethernet over your internal power wiring.
Works great for me

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