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legendary
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If my miner goes offline for any reason (in the recent example offline for 5 hours due to failed surge protector).

Is there a ramp backup delay to get back to full force? I believe I read a new miner takes 7 ish days.

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Again the most misunderstood point about PPLNS Smiley

The ramp is simply spreading out the reward for your shares over the 5Nd after each share is submitted.
The "Time" of the ramp is not a factor in any of the calculations, the ramp is simply 5Nd worth of shares.

How "Long" 5Nd takes depends on the pool hash rate - which at the moment is around 14 days ... ish.
Bit if the pool hash rate increases, the 5Nd time decreases, and conversely, if the pool hash decreases, then the 5Nd time increases.
None of that affects your expected reward.

A short 5Nd ramp up/down means you will be faster to full hash rate but also faster to get down to zero hash rate.
The total you are rewarded is still expected to be the same for the same amount of work you do.

However, assuming the pool hash rate stays at what it currently is - around 24PHs - then the amount of time you ramp down will equal the amount of time it will take you to ramp back up.
That partial ramp down only gets to zero if you ramp down for 5Nd or more (i.e. 500%)
If you ramp down only 1/5 - 1Nd or 100% diff of pool shares - then you'll ramp back up in the same 1/5 - 1Nd 100% diff of pool shares after that - but the times wont be exactly the same - but the expected result is the same.

Another way to look at it would be to say that if you didn't mine for 1 day, your total lost rewards would be expected to end up being the equivalent of 1 day's mining, but the lost rewards would be spread out over the 5Nd from the start of the time you stopped mining until 5Nd after you started mining again
i.e. you get rewarded during the down and back up ramp, but in total yaw expected to lose 1 day of rewards due to not mining for 1 day.
member
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4 s9's 2 821's
If my miner goes offline for any reason (in the recent example offline for 5 hours due to failed surge protector).

Is there a ramp backup delay to get back to full force? I believe I read a new miner takes 7 ish days.

On a related note I have a S9 powered by a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM. Do I need to run a surge protect between it the power supply and the wall outlet? Shouldn't the fuse in the fuse box just trip if there is a surge?

Just needs another five or so hours to fully ramp back up (and probably not even that long).  If you're fully in right now, you could potentially not mine here for just over two weeks, and get paid from any blocks found.  I wouldn't worry about those five hours if you were fully in already, will mean very little in the overall scheme of things (and even if it did, you'd just ramp back up to full while you were sleeping anyway).
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4 s9's 2 821's
A bottle of ketchup was sacrificed, for the good or the order, and for the next block. 
legendary
Activity: 4634
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
One of my rare OT's: @ kano, what do you think of the chances for someone (tekcomm in this case) cracking/writing a new s9 driver with zero input from Bitmain as to how the chips even communicate? re the reboot of the s9 bounty with the goal of it being fully GPL compliant?
Well that all died with the S5
I was gonna do the S5, then worked out that the work queue issues were not in the fake USB<->SPI kernel driver but inside the FPGA that controlled the miner, so it all became a complete waste of time.
They ignored everything else I'd done with the S1/S2/S3 already anyway ...

... and sending me a replacement board for the dead half of my S5 was too expensive for Bitmain also Tongue
Lulz they make hundreds of million a year (now) and a single S5 board (back then long after the S5 was released) was too much Cheesy

Then I was supposedly gonna be sent an S7 but that didn't happen either ... so I gave up at that point.

The opensource project that another butmain employee tried to get going also got NO backing from bitmain at all.
Yeah bitmain definitely has not been the best thing that happened to Bitcoin Tongue

But ... Bitcoin should be free to progress as everyone chooses, not to be controlled by morons (core) saying what Bitcoin MUST be. Anyone who wants centralised control, go elsewhere thank you very much ...
legendary
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If my miner goes offline for any reason (in the recent example offline for 5 hours due to failed surge protector).

Is there a ramp backup delay to get back to full force? I believe I read a new miner takes 7 ish days.

On a related note I have a S9 powered by a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM. Do I need to run a surge protect between it the power supply and the wall outlet? Shouldn't the fuse in the fuse box just trip if there is a surge?

The fuse would trip but I think the worry is that enough current might pass through before it trips. I could be wrong. I used a whole home surge protector on my panel, for the 150 bucks plus another 30 for a breaker, everything on the panel is protected.
newbie
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If my miner goes offline for any reason (in the recent example offline for 5 hours due to failed surge protector).

Is there a ramp backup delay to get back to full force? I believe I read a new miner takes 7 ish days.

On a related note I have a S9 powered by a EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 80+ PLATINUM. Do I need to run a surge protect between it the power supply and the wall outlet? Shouldn't the fuse in the fuse box just trip if there is a surge?
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
One of my rare OT's: @ kano, what do you think of the chances for someone (tekcomm in this case) cracking/writing a new s9 driver with zero input from Bitmain as to how the chips even communicate? re the reboot of the s9 bounty with the goal of it being fully GPL compliant?
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
kano's DA MAN!  Never forget the 'k' in the OG ckpool software is k for kano, not k for... well, we know who.  Anyway, mine on!  Cool
legendary
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They run on this pool partly because Kano wrote the book on their miners;
Well to give complete credit where due, Kano and one other prominent miner software guru here who shall remain un-named in this thread to keep the peace wrote the book.
Yeah I just added to the book - main parts (other than specific drivers I did) being I wrote the API (and all the php stuff) and designed/implemented the USB upgrade to cgminer Smiley
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
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They run on this pool partly because Kano wrote the book on their miners;
Well to give complete credit where due, Kano and one other prominent miner software guru here who shall remain un-named in this thread to keep the peace wrote the book.

And how much does Canaan love this pool? Well, when setting up your pool preferences take note that one of the pull down choices is here Wink
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

Hello experts, my poor little miners downstairs seemed to have mined a small amount of BTC, but they are not showing up in my wallet.  Is the payout too low for a a deposit?  Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

496018   25/Nov 09:30   12.66947504   6.761T   305hr 25m 56s   26.41PHs   0.00%   190.580M   744.42GHs   0.00035711
495878   24/Nov 10:24   14.22476413   6.834T   295hr 10m 57s   27.62PHs   0.00%   153.085M   618.73GHs   0.00031864
495768   23/Nov 17:59   14.09918668   6.847T   286hr 36m 31s   28.50PHs   0.00%   127.055M   528.88GHs   0.00026162

Regards,

Tacflame
Dust is <0.0001 BTC so you're fine there.  To what address are you sending the mining rewards?
Yes indeed, all payouts above dust have been sent and confirmed for all blocks found.
(of course including up to 496018)
It easiest to just check your own addresses to see them.
Go to blocktrail and enter your addresses.
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/
sr. member
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911 IT Admin. I keep 911 up so you get help ASAP!
You're mining on kano, and you don't know what canaan is...no worries.

Canaan Creative is the Avalon miner mfr. They run on this pool partly because Kano wrote the book on their miners; what you see is their farm, and/or (I assume in this instance) their new product burn-in batches.

That's all. Nothing to see here...  Cool

Ha that's awesome. be nice if they'd ship my miner out that said it was shipped but never has Smiley
legendary
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You're mining on kano, and you don't know what canaan is...no worries.

Canaan Creative is the Avalon miner mfr. They run on this pool partly because Kano wrote the book on their miners; what you see is their farm, and/or (I assume in this instance) their new product burn-in batches.

That's all. Nothing to see here...  Cool
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 538
I'm in BTC XTC

Hello experts, my poor little miners downstairs seemed to have mined a small amount of BTC, but they are not showing up in my wallet.  Is the payout too low for a a deposit?  Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

496018   25/Nov 09:30   12.66947504   6.761T   305hr 25m 56s   26.41PHs   0.00%   190.580M   744.42GHs   0.00035711
495878   24/Nov 10:24   14.22476413   6.834T   295hr 10m 57s   27.62PHs   0.00%   153.085M   618.73GHs   0.00031864
495768   23/Nov 17:59   14.09918668   6.847T   286hr 36m 31s   28.50PHs   0.00%   127.055M   528.88GHs   0.00026162

Regards,

Tacflame
Dust is <0.0001 BTC so you're fine there.  To what address are you sending the mining rewards?
member
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Free mining equipment tracking and reporting
nice to see hash rate coming back

Hasn't come back, this is the regular canaan ebb and flow on their own hash rate.  We've been pretty solid around 20,000 TH.
Not sure what canaan is, but the user count is coming back somewhat.  Our low number of users was 900 on 11/17 and our high today was 1017.  In case anyone is interested, here are the November Kano Pool User and Hash stats (started gathering late on Nov 2).  BTW, I think the anomaly on the 17th is a server restart so I probably need to throw those out eventually...  I could have swore that our 200PH was in November, but either my averaging code is messed up or it was in October.

Day   Avg User   Low   High      Avg TH      Low      High
27   1000      987   1017      22,914      20,774   25,035
26   984      967   1000      20,961      19,600   22,466
25   967      951   989      20,982      20,110   23,329
24   959      949   983      20,846      19,994   22,387
23   967      951   979      21,293      20,390   22,919
22   970      954   984      22,491      20,932   25,060
21   954      943   963      22,036      20,458   24,037
20   942      925   956      20,705      18,887   22,365
19   925      912   940      21,378      20,317   23,886
18   912      900   941      24,829      23,359   26,855
17   984      6   1073      25,448      17,741   27,364
16   1059      1046   1084      24,863      23,828   26,611
15   1044      1033   1054      27,148      25,441   46,048
14   1056      1039   1074      45,708      40,910   49,203
13   1059      1043   1076      45,954      40,727   47,892
12   1055      1045   1065      44,291      39,727   45,633
11   1058      1043   1128      46,118      41,082   53,776
10   1048      1035   1058      45,607      44,087   47,180
9   1048      1037   1058      45,280      37,367   46,894
8   1036      1025   1051      45,085      40,147   46,485
7   1010      988   1050      44,875      43,647   45,926
6   971      956   1000      44,772      42,666   46,601
5   952      931   973      46,124      43,887   47,759
4   923      911   941      44,952      42,759   47,556
3   903      888   944      49,268      46,156   53,997

newbie
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kano can we request a dust payout if we are over a certian amount , i know i have ALOT  of little dust payments that should add up to a pretty good bit
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
LMAO - now I have to read that whole blog! Too funny! ("In regards to" is my top grammatical pet peeve).

That was one tough block! Happy we finally cracked it  Grin
Go block Friday!

Hello experts, my poor little miners downstairs seemed to have mined a small amount of BTC, but they are not showing up in my wallet.  Is the payout too low for a a deposit?  Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

496018   25/Nov 09:30   12.66947504   6.761T   305hr 25m 56s   26.41PHs   0.00%   190.580M   744.42GHs   0.00035711
495878   24/Nov 10:24   14.22476413   6.834T   295hr 10m 57s   27.62PHs   0.00%   153.085M   618.73GHs   0.00031864
495768   23/Nov 17:59   14.09918668   6.847T   286hr 36m 31s   28.50PHs   0.00%   127.055M   528.88GHs   0.00026162

Regards,

Tacflame
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
nice to see hash rate coming back

Hash rate always comes back when we hit lots of blocks in their absence. It's the very nature and mentality of pool hopping.
Yup.  Kiss
member
Activity: 658
Merit: 21
4 s9's 2 821's
nice to see hash rate coming back

Hasn't come back, this is the regular canaan ebb and flow on their own hash rate.  We've been pretty solid around 20,000 TH.
legendary
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Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
nice to see hash rate coming back

Hash rate always comes back when we hit lots of blocks in their absence. It's the very nature and mentality of pool hopping.
full member
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Mine ON!!!
nice to see hash rate coming back
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