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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 77. (Read 5352140 times)

jr. member
Activity: 76
Merit: 2
I really hope we dont get a block now until I ramp back up!
I wouldn't mind if we get one now, and then some more to support your ramp up! Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 2419
EIN: 82-3893490
eh... I just noticed that my miners have not been mining since Monday on Kano pool... I have been so busy at work and all that I have not even gone out to check the miners smh.... I am heading there after work to see what the issue is... I cannot remote into the pc there atm so my guess is the breaker must have tripped. I really hope we dont get a block now until I ramp back up!
member
Activity: 159
Merit: 12
I can understand some are leaving because they cannot afford to pay the bills from month to month in coins since their army is just to big to sustain it with the current BTC price and we are having shit luck. ( Cry)
You need something more stable...

this is the very case. you need to pay the bill or switch off your rigs.
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Activity: 285
Merit: 10
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Hoo-boy! Averages of averages, strategic sampling, etc...

Oh, man, I'm gonna revel in the next nice, long, lime green streak!!!
And as the 5nd drops day by day, our reward per block just keeps going up.  we are going to be rolling in the rewards when our luck turns green!  I too will be here to collect like the other die hard Kano fans!
member
Activity: 490
Merit: 16
1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
Hoo-boy! Averages of averages, strategic sampling, etc...

Oh, man, I'm gonna revel in the next nice, long, lime green streak!!!
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005
Soooooo.... We are having bad luck...

I can understand some are leaving because they cannot afford to pay the bills from month to month in coins since their army is just to big to sustain it with the current BTC price and we are having shit luck. ( Cry)
You need something more stable... it's fine BUT if you are leaving only because we are having bad luck... well I have news for you...

I will be there for the long green streak !

Mine on  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
As I edited my post above:

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Avarage of past year: 85,6175%
Math fail.
Average for the past year including incomplete November but including December (as you did) is 97% luck
Found 200 Expected 206.53

i just took the average of each month. Added, and devided, so average is correct i presume.

well anyway: when i look at the block performance, i (me, personally) see that theaverage of the past 2 year is 96,68%
Oh, its great that the performance was outrageausly good in 2015, but what good does it do for the current miners? When you calculate the performance from day1 it might be 101,49% indeed, but the past 2 years it didn't, and it seems to be declining only... Last year:92,65% so, thats everyone that started in november 2017, right? (60 weeks average...)

i dont want to throw mud or anything, dont get me wrong. (i didnt start the numbers actually, in respect to Kanopool...)
So why 2.2 years?
Why not the last 12 months (as displayed)?
Or the last 4 years?

Saying a 2.2 year average reflects what happens now is making the well known incorrect assumption that mining history affects the mining future.
In fact to look at it in an ever worse light - this month is terrible so far - 54% luck - so why is it worse than the 2.2 year history?
Answer: coz it's random Tongue

You are also making a completely incorrect statement in there
"but the past 2 years it didn't, and it seems to be declining only"
No it isn't - yes you can choose results to make it look that way, but no it isn't.

The range you chose starts with the month of the worst 2 blocks of all time on the pool (last November) and ends with the (so far incomplete) month of the worst luck ever on the pool - this November.
That's commonly called rigging the results Smiley

Luck goes up and down - if you select results to show based exactly on when luck is worst - then yep you can show bad luck for any pool.
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 30
Now to throw one more point into this Smiley
You CAN average months if you are looking at the PAPPS% number since that is average reward for the month.

So using the months listed on the web site:
2018 November… 53.92%
2018 October 84.93%
2018 September 134.59%
2018 August 95.93%
2018 July 105.36%
2018 June 87.48%
2018 May 99.26%
2018 April 101.19%
2018 March 144.89%
2018 February 44.93%
2018 January 152.40%
2017 December 127.65%

So the average month PAPPS% is 102.7% PPS rewarded Smiley
(including November so far)

Right is right and wrong is wrong: Calculated it, and true as it can be, i admit.
I just looked at luck.



(this, by the way, is what i appreciate about you personally. Thx.)




i'm working on some extra hash. I might add it again. I'll consider.  Wink
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 30
As I edited my post above:

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Avarage of past year: 85,6175%
Math fail.
Average for the past year including incomplete November but including December (as you did) is 97% luck
Found 200 Expected 206.53

i just took the average of each month. Added, and devided, so average is correct i presume.

well anyway: when i look at the block performance, i (me, personally) see that theaverage of the past 2 year is 96,68%
Oh, its great that the performance was outrageausly good in 2015, but what good does it do for the current miners? When you calculate the performance from day1 it might be 101,49% indeed, but the past 2 years it didn't, and it seems to be declining only... Last year:92,65% so, thats everyone that started in november 2017, right? (60 weeks average...)

i dont want to throw mud or anything, dont get me wrong. (i didnt start the numbers actually, in respect to Kanopool...)
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Now to throw one more point into this Smiley
You CAN average months if you are looking at the PAPPS% number since that is average reward for the month.

So using the months listed on the web site:
2018 November… 53.92%
2018 October 84.93%
2018 September 134.59%
2018 August 95.93%
2018 July 105.36%
2018 June 87.48%
2018 May 99.26%
2018 April 101.19%
2018 March 144.89%
2018 February 44.93%
2018 January 152.40%
2017 December 127.65%

So the average month PAPPS% is 102.7% PPS rewarded Smiley
(including November so far)
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
As I edited my post above:

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Avarage of past year: 85,6175%
Math fail.
Average for the past year including incomplete November but including December (as you did) is 97% luck
Found 200 Expected 206.53
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 30
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luck on this pool is below average for a very very very long time...
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Nope - just this month ... which is NOT a very very very very long time.

Stats for this year up to the end of October is 101% luck
180 blocks found, 177.99 expected.

So no idea why you'd make that completely incorrect statement.

Last 1000 Blocks   115.9wks   luck:   96.68%

source: own website....
Well then I'll educate you on the meaning of that.

There have been low luck points in the last 115 weeks and high luck points also.
Alas more low than high.

Same as for this yeah up to October.
But this year those total low and high have averaged out to 101% at the end of October, but taken a dive for November.

So, no you are incorrect.

I wont point out the fact that over all time luck is still 101.5% ... oh wait I just did Tongue

ok.
Well, for now i will take my loss then and gamble at a different pool for now for 2% less... Since i switched a few weeks ago, it seems that my personal average might be higher after all then...

And again: nothing personal. Same as current, you just try to explain me, instead of throw mud or anything. I appreciate and respect that. Great example for many others, chapeau, hounestly.
member
Activity: 490
Merit: 16
1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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luck on this pool is below average for a very very very long time...
...
Nope - just this month ... which is NOT a very very very very long time.

Stats for this year up to the end of October is 101% luck
180 blocks found, 177.99 expected.

So no idea why you'd make that completely incorrect statement.

Last 1000 Blocks   115.9wks   luck:   96.68%

source: own website....

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Avarage of past year: 85,6175%
Math fail.
Average for the past year including incomplete November but including December (as you did) is 97% luck
Found 200 Expected 206.53

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Now I'll educate you on the meaning of a luck %

There have been low luck points in the last 115 weeks and high luck points also.
Alas more low than high.

Same as for this yeah up to October.
But this year those total low and high have averaged out to 101% at the end of October, but taken a dive for November.

So, no you are incorrect.

I wont point out the fact that over all time luck is still 101.5% ... oh wait I just did Tongue
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 30
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luck on this pool is below average for a very very very long time...
...
Nope - just this month ... which is NOT a very very very very long time.

Stats for this year up to the end of October is 101% luck
180 blocks found, 177.99 expected.

So no idea why you'd make that completely incorrect statement.


Last 1000 Blocks   115.9wks   luck:   96.68%

source: own website....


2018 November…   53.99%
2018 October           84.71%
2018 September   134.25%
2018 August           95.66%
2018 July                  104.82%
2018 June                   85.60%
2018 May                   98.60%
2018 April                   100.37%
2018 March           143.33%
2018 February           44.10%
2018 January           116.47%
2017 December           99.76%


Avarage of past year: 85,6175%
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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luck on this pool is below average for a very very very long time...
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Nope - just this month ... which is NOT a very very very very long time.

Stats for this year up to the end of October is 101% luck
180 blocks found, 177.99 expected.

So no idea why you'd make that completely incorrect statement.
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 30
KanoPool:     71,432.43THs     Cry

It seems like i'm not the only one with a calculator...  Cheesy

I mean the hashrate drop is a pity...nothing more...
SAD!!!        Wink

no, why?
Why is the (overall!!) hashrate drop a pitty? It only means more BTC for your Th...

It is a pitty that it effects this pool, true. If it was for me, this pool would have 2Ph!  (omg... Kano would go crazy... Smiley  )
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
KanoPool:     71,432.43THs     Cry

It seems like i'm not the only one with a calculator...  Cheesy

I mean the hashrate drop is a pity...nothing more...
SAD!!!        Wink
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
KanoPool:     71,432.43THs     Cry

It seems like i'm not the only one with a calculator...  Cheesy

You're just not capable of understanding that pool size has no effect on the miner's total reward.  We still get the same amount...there will be fewer blocks but we will get more BTC with each block so it's still the same total payout.  You really should take up a hobby that involves less math before you hurt yourself Smiley

And i think that you are too stupid to operate a calculator....  Grin Grin
 
I know how the pool works, i've been mining nhere for over 6 months...

I'm afraid that you are not capable of understanding that luck on this pool is below average for a very very very long time... Hey, sure, it may differ 1-1.1% in fees, but when another pool comes close(r) to 100% luck (wich is the norm as you state yourself) they still pay more BTC for your hash... Second; when the overall pool hash is so low, it takes much longer to find a block, and kills your 5N rewards when you drop to another pool, as your 5N is already down to zero when the pool eventually finds a block.

So, stop throwing mud, try to better understand what you read, and be a little more respectful okay?  Undecided

Yep, I'm too stupid to operate a calculator! Cheesy
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 30
ps.
It has nothing to do with Kano...
Great guy, responsive, and has a angel's patience...
I am sure there is no better pool operator, definately.
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