Keep religious beliefs personal to promote peaceful coexistence - page 5.

KingScorpio

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Quote from: Astargath on April 22, 2019, 11:03:04 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on April 22, 2019, 05:56:56 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 21, 2019, 02:20:46 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on April 21, 2019, 10:14:29 AM

answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?

A: Christian King
B: Muslim King

Neither.

then its not a sustainable christian or muslim society.

And why would you want a society based on an imaginary being?

well thats no religious freedom then if you deny christians or muslims their kingdom, why always with a banking cartel founded by jews generations ago, or why always with a cryptocurrency index scam?

if thats how it is continuing people will simply stop listening to what others say and consider each other like standard living commodities, (thats where crypto is brining everyone no more humanist states

Spendulus

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Quote from: Astargath on April 26, 2019, 12:05:25 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 26, 2019, 11:55:21 AM

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It would be useful to include in your critique, other human myth systems besides religion. Otherwise, you would convince people to leave religion, and they would simply be sucked into the next convenient quasi-religion they encounter.

Like Climate Change.

Or has that became a religion? I don't keep up...

The best thing people could do is admit when they are wrong, unfortunately it's really hard to do it and really easy to stick to one ideology, religion, belief. I admit I was probably wrong about climate change, it does seem like evidence for it is a bit shaky so my views about it are neutral now, I will say I simply don't know if it's caused by humans or not.

I am not being critical of views. Not in the least.

I am only pointing out that many will, in the absence of religion, substitute alterative myth systems, among which at least in some people, it becomes something like a religion.

Astargath

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 26, 2019, 11:55:21 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 22, 2019, 03:20:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 22, 2019, 11:47:31 AM

God wants us to examine why we accept and believe in Him. The only way we can do this is to share our religious convictions about Him.

Atheists can't make a universe like ours. Nor can they find a working way that a universe like ours could come into being by accident. This means that they are holding themselves up as gods of noting. And their ideas that there is no God shows that they agree that they are nothing gods.

Cool

Religion has done nothing but a disservice to humanity, not only asking for money since forever but also creating thousands of conflicts and impeding science to progress many, many times. They are still trying, even in 2019 with stem cells, etc. Religion is a disease, it sucks your life, it promises you things and it doesn't deliver.

It would be useful to include in your critique, other human myth systems besides religion. Otherwise, you would convince people to leave religion, and they would simply be sucked into the next convenient quasi-religion they encounter.

Like Climate Change.

Or has that became a religion? I don't keep up...

The best thing people could do is admit when they are wrong, unfortunately it's really hard to do it and really easy to stick to one ideology, religion, belief. I admit I was probably wrong about climate change, it does seem like evidence for it is a bit shaky so my views about it are neutral now, I will say I simply don't know if it's caused by humans or not.

Spendulus

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Quote from: Astargath on April 22, 2019, 03:20:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 22, 2019, 11:47:31 AM

God wants us to examine why we accept and believe in Him. The only way we can do this is to share our religious convictions about Him.

Atheists can't make a universe like ours. Nor can they find a working way that a universe like ours could come into being by accident. This means that they are holding themselves up as gods of noting. And their ideas that there is no God shows that they agree that they are nothing gods.

Cool

Religion has done nothing but a disservice to humanity, not only asking for money since forever but also creating thousands of conflicts and impeding science to progress many, many times. They are still trying, even in 2019 with stem cells, etc. Religion is a disease, it sucks your life, it promises you things and it doesn't deliver.

It would be useful to include in your critique, other human myth systems besides religion. Otherwise, you would convince people to leave religion, and they would simply be sucked into the next convenient quasi-religion they encounter.

Like Climate Change.

Or has that became a religion? I don't keep up...

Astargath

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Quote from: BADecker on April 25, 2019, 07:56:48 PM

^^^ The other side of that is that good religions should spread their info, just to combat the evil ones. In the case of spreading Christianity, salvation will result for some people who hear.

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I'm fairly sure that's what Muslims say too, that their good religion should be spread and other evil religions, Christianity should be stopped.

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^^^ The other side of that is that good religions should spread their info, just to combat the evil ones. In the case of spreading Christianity, salvation will result for some people who hear.

Cool

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Quote from: coins4commies on April 22, 2019, 12:39:39 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on April 21, 2019, 01:56:08 PM

Osama bin Laden (of the wealth Bin Laden construction company) and Ayman al-Zawahiri (who is a surgeon) are prime examples that money and education don't cure psychopathy.

There will always be evil people who use their education to manipulate others but they aren't the ones out there blowing themselves up. Again, this is a trend, not a rule but its generally harder for masterminds like Osama to manipulate educated people.

I'm more under the impression that people are inherently evil to varying degrees. The higher the evil level, the more likely they'll fall for propaganda like al-Qaeda's and find a way to justify going through with the evil deed. I mean, you need to have a certain degree of callousness to shoot at or abduct and rape small children going to school.

The smart evil runs the organization, the dumb evil do the dirty work.

BADecker

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Quote from: Astargath on April 22, 2019, 03:20:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 22, 2019, 11:47:31 AM

God wants us to examine why we accept and believe in Him. The only way we can do this is to share our religious convictions about Him.

Atheists can't make a universe like ours. Nor can they find a working way that a universe like ours could come into being by accident. This means that they are holding themselves up as gods of noting. And their ideas that there is no God shows that they agree that they are nothing gods.

Cool

Religion has done nothing but a disservice to humanity, not only asking for money since forever but also creating thousands of conflicts and impeding science to progress many, many times. They are still trying, even in 2019 with stem cells, etc. Religion is a disease, it sucks your life, it promises you things and it doesn't deliver.

I can understand why you would think this ^^^. After all, it's the thing you are attempting to do with whatever kind of religion you are attempting to use... your own personal religion of non-religion... is to pick on other religions. But isn't that the thing that all religions do at times?

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Quote from: BADecker on April 22, 2019, 11:47:31 AM

God wants us to examine why we accept and believe in Him. The only way we can do this is to share our religious convictions about Him.

Atheists can't make a universe like ours. Nor can they find a working way that a universe like ours could come into being by accident. This means that they are holding themselves up as gods of noting. And their ideas that there is no God shows that they agree that they are nothing gods.

Cool

Religion has done nothing but a disservice to humanity, not only asking for money since forever but also creating thousands of conflicts and impeding science to progress many, many times. They are still trying, even in 2019 with stem cells, etc. Religion is a disease, it sucks your life, it promises you things and it doesn't deliver.

omonuyak

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Peace is more important than whatever we are seeing as object of worship and since we cannot agree in one object it is very important that we should keep our religion believe personal and never try to kills for god that cannot fight for himself.

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Quote from: Mometaskers on April 21, 2019, 01:56:08 PM

The West has came up with pretty good solutions for it. One was called "Freedom of Religion" and the other is "Separation of Church and State". You are free to practice your religion but keep it out of politics.

In practice politicians may still apply laws based on religion but actual religious institutions have no direct control of the government.

Quote from: Beerwizzard on April 20, 2019, 01:10:27 PM

Quote from: coins4commies on April 20, 2019, 10:57:51 AM

The solution is education. If you educate the masses on how to be critical thinkers, it won't get rid of religion, but it will give people a better perspective with which to see their religion, extreme teachings within it, and view of others in other religions. Basically education will turn people into OP.

American SJWs are taking a huge loans for their education but for some reason they keep trying to force their absolutely retarded ideology. I'm not sure that education would help in this case. Also there is a great quote for such cases: "Formal instruction does not cure foolishness; it arms it." -Nicolás Gómez Dávila.

Osama bin Laden (of the wealth Bin Laden construction company) and Ayman al-Zawahiri (who is a surgeon) are prime examples that money and education don't cure psychopathy.

There will always be evil people who use their education to manipulate others but they aren't the ones out there blowing themselves up. Again, this is a trend, not a rule but its generally harder for masterminds like Osama to manipulate educated people.

BADecker

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God wants us to examine why we accept and believe in Him. The only way we can do this is to share our religious convictions about Him.

Atheists can't make a universe like ours. Nor can they find a working way that a universe like ours could come into being by accident. This means that they are holding themselves up as gods of noting. And their ideas that there is no God shows that they agree that they are nothing gods.

Cool

Astargath

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Quote from: KingScorpio on April 22, 2019, 05:56:56 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 21, 2019, 02:20:46 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on April 21, 2019, 10:14:29 AM

answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?

A: Christian King
B: Muslim King

Neither.

then its not a sustainable christian or muslim society.

And why would you want a society based on an imaginary being?

KingScorpio

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 21, 2019, 02:20:46 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on April 21, 2019, 10:14:29 AM

answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?

A: Christian King
B: Muslim King

Neither.

then its not a sustainable christian or muslim society.

darklus123

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I am with you in terms of allowing others to live a life what they wanted to have. Tho, I will agree with Badecker in one term. Never ever hide your beliefs but also do not force someone to believe in you. Instead try to educate yourself more for the values of your religion.

I am also speaking about my religious belief to other people specifically muslims and sharing them instead of forcing them to believe in you is a much efficient way.

A healthy debate about religions is a healthy thing to live on. It can give you more wisdom

iamMhew

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Its impossible to co-exist in a society with mix religions in it and practicing it privately. I think for every religious person who practice their faith base on the scriptures that they follow, somewhere along that text, mentioned that they need to spread their faith and influence it to non believer of their faith.

Astargath

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Quote from: okala on April 21, 2019, 03:00:01 PM

Peace and love is what the world need, religion is one of the institutions that divide the world and religion estrimist is what result into conflict and at that breed crisis, once there is live the world will be a better place for all of us.

True, religion does nothing for us, sure it's an easy way to escape reality but in the end it's just a dream because reality will hit you eventually and you will die, eventually, then no heaven, no after life, nothing and you might have just wasted your life praising something that doesn't even exist.

okala

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Peace and love is what the world need, religion is one of the institutions that divide the world and religion estrimist is what result into conflict and at that breed crisis, once there is live the world will be a better place for all of us.

Spendulus

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Quote from: KingScorpio on April 21, 2019, 10:14:29 AM

answer me one question who shall controll the money in your country?

A: Christian King
B: Muslim King

Neither.

Mometaskers

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The West has came up with pretty good solutions for it. One was called "Freedom of Religion" and the other is "Separation of Church and State". You are free to practice your religion but keep it out of politics.

In practice politicians may still apply laws based on religion but actual religious institutions have no direct control of the government.

Quote from: Beerwizzard on April 20, 2019, 01:10:27 PM

Quote from: coins4commies on April 20, 2019, 10:57:51 AM

The solution is education. If you educate the masses on how to be critical thinkers, it won't get rid of religion, but it will give people a better perspective with which to see their religion, extreme teachings within it, and view of others in other religions. Basically education will turn people into OP.

American SJWs are taking a huge loans for their education but for some reason they keep trying to force their absolutely retarded ideology. I'm not sure that education would help in this case. Also there is a great quote for such cases: "Formal instruction does not cure foolishness; it arms it." -Nicolás Gómez Dávila.

Osama bin Laden (of the wealth Bin Laden construction company) and Ayman al-Zawahiri (who is a surgeon) are prime examples that money and education don't cure psychopathy.

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