Topic: Keeping old and new Topics alive - page 2. (Read 435 times)

What's stopping newbies from wandering around the forum and reading some old threads? Have you ever seen newcomers who were worried that there was an old topic that was in the shadows? No. It is easier for them to create a new one. And it's easier for everyone else to answer a new topic by writing almost the same thing that was written in the old topic.
There is no difference in this. The only thing that pleases is time, which changes some events and, accordingly, views. From this, we get more modern answers that are relevant now. But for the most part, the forum is full of topics with the same content, and everyone who comes here has a good opportunity to find out what people thought five years ago and now.

There's really no reason to artifically keep a discussion topic alive if there's no real interest in it anymore and it is perfectly normal for topics to die after some time.

It is one of ways if a topic author does not mind to Bump his thread. If a topic author see no reason to let his thread opens for discussion, locking it is good to avoid spam.

When you want bumping, there are two rules to remember about bumping.

No one cares, people can create a new thread which has been discussed a lot times and the moderators will not delete those thread. How to get merit, don't plagiarism guide, how to buy Bitcoin, what is signature campaign, guide for newbies etc can be found easily in Beginner & Help section.

If the moderators can accept that and the thread isn't get deleted, this mean there's nothing wrong to create a new thread even though it could lead to spam.

If there is an update to an old topic, then it is better to start a new thread, and link to the original in that imho.

I know quite alright that some post if continue talking about it, it causes spamming and is not healthy for the forum but won't it be better if the ones (post) you guys feel is not worthy to stay active to be removed without it affecting the post of the users or maybe deleting it or something, or probably pin it somewhere different and you call THRASH or JUNKYARD for safe keeping while the good post can be free to bump, and it will reduce those number of pages of posts growing down there. Can't it be done that way?

When duplicate topic is posted, there would be at least one member remarking that similar topic already exist and it'd be better to just post there despite this members keep creating new posts in this new topic and ignoring old one. I'm sure such topics are reported as well but are rarely deleted, dunno what's mod's take on that one.

Your intentions are right but think for a second that if we started to keep useful threads alive then we have to post a reply in it and once many member started to do that the number of pages will increase and thus the interest of newbies to learn something from that topic will decrease.

In short words, there will be more unnecessary content on those valuable threads which will hurt the value of real content. So the best way for newbies who came to this forum that if they want to learn something about merit system, trust system, or if they want to know about how they can download electric wallet, how they can configure it, or how they can avoid themselves from getting scammed in crypto sphere.

Then all they have to do is, put these keywords in search bar if btt forum and hit enter or they can write these keywords in Google Search Engine and at the end just type another keyword of Bitcointalk and the relevant topic will come. And the other way is to get information using Ninjastic tool, I hope newbies will also not aware of it and your intentions are to inform them about it by keeping the thread of ninjastic tool alive but alternative way is you can tell those are are searching for it.

Another drawback of keeping all those thread alive is the new threads will never be on first page which will lose the interest of old users whose quantity is more than newbies. It means, in providing the facilities to new ones we will lose the old ones.

We have sticky threads. All members will see sticky threads at top of each board and most of such threads are locked.

If you search before posting and search effectively, you will find those threads.

• [Guide] Searching effectively

Keeping such threads actively will cause something like super active threads in Gambling discussions, Mega spam threads. I am against this idea. It is good only if such threads are active with meaningful discussions, not just to be active.

I mean its normal that most of the topics are not active anymore, and the discussions are surely going to end at some point, It was still in the forum so if the topic becomes a trend again someone could easily bump it up at any time if they want to start a discussion or just wanted to reply to that post. I mean it's dynamic there are a lot of things that change technology keeps on improving so there are a lot of new topics that are going to be made. Also, there are topics that are just questions about some things, if the OP's question is already answered they can lock that thread already since the OP is already satisfied with the answer. There are topics that are going to be the same like for example topics about ordinals I remember there are a lot of threads that is related to ordinals

These old topics are not dumped or dusted into the cloud, This topic is still saved in the cloud and anyone could still reply and see this topic which is really useful for a lot of members, members could just read the discussions online, and this topics also appear on google searches so it's definitely useful which is the reason the goal of the forum.

When you are considering opening a new topic you should maybe use the search bar and see if that topic has been discussed already. If so, you have the option to go read that thread or the multiple threads on the subject. If the topic hasn't been posted in for a while and you have something that adds to the topic that has value, feel free to post and get the topic back to life. If you add nothing to the conversation and post anyways, you're necrobumping a topic and there is a possibility it gets reported and deleted. Multiple infractions could lead to a ban.

What ends up happening instead of what I said above is people do not want to search or they do not want to read a whole topic if they do search. So instead, they make a new topic and get their answers as well as are able to get more posts for their weekly quota by engaging with other users who have posted.

True, some threads are iconic and can be very helpful to beginners but we can’t pin them all. Newbies should learn to make proper use of the search engine so they do not breathe duplicate topics.

In my opinion, any thread that’s gone past fifth page will only have repeated comments from spammers and posters trying to complete weekly post quota, most times after the discussion has progressed to the 5th-7th pages, there is a high chance that the thread will be derailed with other conversations that has nothing to do with the original topic. You will find a lot of these mega threads in the gambling section, that’s why shit posters love to make their posts there.

The reason why they are not active is simple: some posts out there were made years ago for information purposes and guidelines, which were helpful to many, and tips from there are still being used to this day on this forum. But we can't just go back to such a topic to go and continue discussion over there, even if you want to. In a thread that consists of about 10–50 pages and you as a newbie happen to just come across such a post, how will you be able to read through such a huge page in order to check if a concern you could have raised has been discussed or not? And if you happen to wake up in such a thread, others say you are necroposting.
 
For me, when I see threads that are very informative and there is an area of concern, it will be helpful to quote a few words from there referencing the original author, and anyone who wants more information regarding that could possibly go there and read more.

I think for some of those topics, the discussion keeps going on and on until maybe there's nothing to discuss again. Sometimes, spammers spread spam in those threads, and the discussion could just die off, but if the OP feels the topic is very important,  he or she can bump the topic once in a while. In my opinion, to keep those topics from dying off, the best thing to do is bump the thread once in a while. At least the forum doesn't forbid bumping a post; what's forbidden is bumping more often.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

This is the main reason I avoid megathreads, even those that I've created myself and have developed over 10 to 20 pages of replies, even though I can still contribute to the topic, without repeating myself. After some point, only spammers reply to meet their quota for their signature campaign, repeating what has been said numerous times in the previous replies. Even if we suppose that there are a few decent posts among the 20-page-long thread, they're lost in the spam of other users and go unnoticed. The most annoying of all is quoting what has been said in the starting post and posting their completely irrelevant reply, with zero attempt to create a proper discussion and interaction with other users.

One way to keep a topic alive is to bump it from time to time. This is allowed on the forum, but you have to follow certain rules. You can bump only once in 24 hours and old bumps must be deleted regularly.

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

Have you not noticed that the more a thread is getting longer, the more spammers and low quality posters will begin to post there? There are many valuable topics that do not need much replies again as it get old unless some people will keep repeating what other people have posted there before. If I check some threads, I see some people already posting what is on first page with no added information to gain from the thread again.

Well this is very had to say why those topics aren't active anymore instead there are lots of new topics created on a regular basis while we have some of them or similar topics.
Well if I may say something here, most times people finds it interesting to discuss in a fresher topics than long created topics, sometimes it's seen as spamming after 5 to 8 pages and I believe any topic created and have such amount of pages people considers it to be much populated and the reason for creation has been met.

That was why most times the mods or admin kept deleting some of the replies and comments they found not valuable. I think the best is to pin them at the top as Upgrade00 already suggested but it should be a reason and meaningful ones to be pinned.

At some point the discussion on a topic is exhausted no matter how important or beneficial those topics are.

One way is the mods sticking them to the top, but there are too many good topics for then all to be stickied.
As an alternative you can bookmark any really good topic you find and bump them now and again so other users can benefit from it.

Bitcointalk has so many Topics that even some newbies don't know about even myself and those topics are very important. I've being wondering why some of these interesting topics are not always active like we forget about them that easy and it makes users who are not aware of it to even open a similar one and before you know it you start seeing links from nowhere that are related.

The thing is why can't we continue to keep those topics alive instead we over look them even when we have something to talk about, we prefer going for new topics.

How can we keep those topics alive instead of dumping them and allowing dust to cloud them?