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legendary
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Read today that Switzerland may extradite Khodorkovskij (wanted by Russia on charges of manslaughter).
legendary
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The time will come and he won't be able to be sure of anything. Neither new friend nor the turn of ignition key. He will be afraid of everything, including the daily glass of wine. I wouldn't call this a happy life.

Lol... but still I would like him to be sent to some derelict labor camp in the Northeast Siberia. Has the Russian government recovered any part of the loot from him? Yukos was handed over to the government, but at the same time billions of USD worth of funds were unaccounted for. Khodorkovsky and his goons smuggled it out of Russia even before he got arrested.
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Nuke Russia, warm it up!
legendary
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Well...

https://www.rt.com/politics/325065-khodorkovsky-faces-new-charges-within/

Thank God, I can feel my wish coming true Cheesy
What makes you think that he will come back to Russia, so that he will be prosecuted?
Of course this coward won't come back. But it doesn't matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelimkhan_Yandarbiyev#Death

He is enjoying his life in London, and the British are not going to deport him to Russia. So these charges will remain as they are.

The time will come and he won't be able to be sure of anything. Neither new friend nor the turn of ignition key. He will be afraid of everything, including the daily glass of wine. I wouldn't call this a happy life.
legendary
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Well...

https://www.rt.com/politics/325065-khodorkovsky-faces-new-charges-within/

Thank God, I can feel my wish coming true Cheesy
What makes you think that he will come back to Russia, so that he will be prosecuted? He is enjoying his life in London, and the British are not going to deport him to Russia. So these charges will remain as they are. At the best, the Russian courts can sentence him to a prison camp or hard labor for a few years, in absentia.
legendary
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Well...

https://www.rt.com/politics/325065-khodorkovsky-faces-new-charges-within/

Thank God, I can feel my wish coming true Cheesy

I wonder if Khodorkovskij's Western masters would rather silence him, like they did with Litvinenko and BErezovskij, than to let him be arrested by Russia and risking that he'd say something in court...

I newly came across this book, and it seems to be a worthy addition to my library of "food for thought" books.

The Phony Litvinenko Murder
http://www.amazon.com/Phony-Litvinenko-Murder-William-Dunkerley/dp/0615559018

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This seminal book totally debunks the mainstream story about Alexander Litvinenko. He is the reputed former KGB spy who was murdered in 2006 on orders of Vladimir Putin. Author William Dunkerley methodically proves that storyline to be a hoax.

Dunkerley goes headline-by-headline through media reports and shows clearly that they do not correspond with known facts.

Just months after Litvinenko's death, Dunkerley was commissioned by the International Federation of Journalists to investigate and analyze the media coverage of this case. It was a big job. The accusation that Russian president Vladimir Putin had ordered Litvinenko's death had emerged as a news bombshell. It propelled top headlines globally for a long time to come.

The Phony Litvinenko Murder contains the details of Dunkerley's extensive research. The surprising analytical conclusion he reached is that the worldwide media reports don't match the facts. That's why this book is named The Phony Litvinenko Murder.

Litvinenko's famous deathbed allegation of Putin's culpability is just one example. Dunkerley shows that it was a hoax. The hoaxer has even confessed that the words were his, not Litvinenko's. You'll see more hard-hitting analysis like this in the book.

Dunkerley explains through concrete example how gross fabrications concocted by very sophisticated political enemies of Putin's were successfully turned into the mainstream storyline that still predominates in the news. This book covers not only the period immediately following Litvinenko's death, but the five ensuing years, as well.

With the Litvinenko story still popping up in the news, The Phony Litvinenko Murder is a must read. It will help you to understand who you can believe and who you can't. You'll see the method of fabrication that was employed. And you can use all that insight in trying to understand and make sense out of any new media reports.
legendary
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Shortly after Khodorkovsky's arrest on tax evasion, fraud, and other economic crimes,
You forgot murder. Almost everybody, who knew something about Khodorkovsky's business, is dead now.

Yeah, you know making business in Russia in the 90s was a little risky and, err... bloody, mildly speaking. So you are going to say that Berezovsky didn't die on his own, but had been assassinated by Khodorkovsky's accomplices?
I think so, because I don't believe in coincidences when there is a dozen of accidents and suicides.

Some others who had business with Khodorkovsky:

Steven Curtis, died in 2004
Paul Castle, died in 2010
Robert Curtis, died in 2012
David West, died in 2014
Johnny Elichaoff, died in 2014
Scot Young, died in 2014

This criminal should be in jail for a lifetime, he doesn't deserve freedom.
Well...

https://www.rt.com/politics/325065-khodorkovsky-faces-new-charges-within/

Thank God, I can feel my wish coming true Cheesy
legendary
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Yes, they should have... But, but... Khodorkovskij needed to see his ailing mother, so he was let off on humanitarian grounds. Besides, such a prominent and exemplary politician as Frau Merkel, with her characteristic mendacity, vouched that Khodorkovskij would stay out of politics after his release, and who would doubt Mekel's words...  Roll Eyes

Hundreds of people committed suicide and tens of thousands lost their livelihood and savings when Mikhail Khodorkovsky used the infamous "Loans for Shares" technique to seize Yukos in 1995. Till now, he hasn't paid a penny in compensation to the victims of his crimes. And it should not be forgotten that even now he is worth somewhere between $500 million and $1 billion.
legendary
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Heyy Russian troll ... no post about the new law voted in Russia ... that claims now that the russian law is higher that international law ? Anyway ... any trial in russia a $$ matter ... if you have money and good friends ... no risk ...

Russians are too busy to check why on two military satelitte launched, one is already broken ... Russian qualitat :-)
legendary
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In addition to opposition from Khodorkovsky and one would presume Billionare Jacob Rothchild, Billionare George Soros is on record for his outspoken in his opposition to Putin.

Quote from: George Soros
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http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2015/07/09/partnership-china-avoid-world-war/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-23/george-soros-slams-putin-warns-existential-threat-russia

Mr. Putin it seems has some powerful adversaries.

From what I read, Putin himself is fairly well situated financially.  Certainly enough to fight well on the propaganda front against people of his own financial status ranking if he so chooses.

I wonder if this is happening already to some extent.  I personally have a relatively favorable opinion of him relative to the Soros/Rothchild ilk though I am fairly aware that my information is subject to be propagandistic in nature and of questionable reliability.  Even so, the basic status as a bone in the throat of the 'new world order' crowd is one which is likely to be popular, and more-so as things progress and more and more societies lock down into totalitarian modes (like France did recently.)  I would say that Putin has a strong hand by virtue of this.  For my part, I am no where nearly convince that there is not a 'good-cop/bad-cop' game being played here on our way toward a Technocratic and totalitarian future.  All I can do is to weigh events and reactions as they come in to try to figure it out.


If you want to understand Putin and address you concerns, I can recommend reading this report:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/08/15/is-putin-part-of-nwo/

The good cop/bad cop or other such hoax is a targeted information attack on Putin, attempting to discredit him and to drag him under together with the failing powers of the West.



Just in: Russia's Prosecutor's Office issued an international arrest warrant on Khodorkovskij, saying that when Putin signed the pardon, he didn't have access to the full scope of information, which is now in the possession of the Prosecutor's Office.
legendary
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I wonder why gov released him... They should've let him to serve 20-30 years behind bars.

Yes, they should have... But, but... Khodorkovskij needed to see his ailing mother, so he was let off on humanitarian grounds. Besides, such a prominent and exemplary politician as Frau Merkel, with her characteristic mendacity, vouched that Khodorkovskij would stay out of politics after his release, and who would doubt Mekel's words...  Roll Eyes

I think he was released to show the world his true colours...
legendary
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In addition to opposition from Khodorkovsky and one would presume Billionare Jacob Rothchild, Billionare George Soros is on record for his outspoken in his opposition to Putin.

Quote from: George Soros
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http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2015/07/09/partnership-china-avoid-world-war/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-23/george-soros-slams-putin-warns-existential-threat-russia

Mr. Putin it seems has some powerful adversaries.

From what I read, Putin himself is fairly well situated financially.  Certainly enough to fight well on the propaganda front against people of his own financial status ranking if he so chooses.

I wonder if this is happening already to some extent.  I personally have a relatively favorable opinion of him relative to the Soros/Rothchild ilk though I am fairly aware that my information is subject to be propagandistic in nature and of questionable reliability.  Even so, the basic status as a bone in the throat of the 'new world order' crowd is one which is likely to be popular, and more-so as things progress and more and more societies lock down into totalitarian modes (like France did recently.)  I would say that Putin has a strong hand by virtue of this.  For my part, I am no where nearly convince that there is not a 'good-cop/bad-cop' game being played here on our way toward a Technocratic and totalitarian future.  All I can do is to weigh events and reactions as they come in to try to figure it out.

legendary
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He is well and enjoying the Russian money. He resigned from the governor post during Medvedev's presidency, after Putin repeatedly rejected his previous letters of resignation. Even while being the governor, he seldom visited that corner of Russia, spending most of the time in London an toying with his pet football club, Chelsea.

So I am assuming that he managed to smuggle out his wealth to London as well. Putin let him off very easily. He should have confiscated 90% of his wealth, and then let him go with the remaining 10%. He is wasting all his money on football clubs and luxury yachts. That money should have been better spent in Chukotka.
legendary
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A word about oligarchs. Abramovich was mentioned, and he and his ilk are no better than Khodorkovskij. With one difference. When Putin was elected President, he had to reign in the destructive activity of the oligarchs. One way was through confiscations, but that would create too much turmoil (both locally and internationally - just look how much noise Khodorkovskij manages to create) and be too disruptive to the shaky state Russia was in, so the oligarchs were offered a deal instead. They keep most of what they "acquired", and in return they invest some of that into the most desperate areas of Russian economy and they also stay out of politics. Abramovich was tasked to bring up to speed the poorest and least developed region of Russia - Chukotka, the governor of which he was appointed. In the end he kept both points of the bargain and is now seldom seen on the media horizon. Khvodorkovskij chose the path dictated by his overseas masters...

I haven't heard about Roman Abramovich for a very long time. Is he still alive? A few years ago, I read somewhere that he resigned from the post of governor of Chukotka and shifted his residence to London.

He is well and enjoying the Russian money. He resigned from the governor post during Medvedev's presidency, after Putin repeatedly rejected his previous letters of resignation. Even while being the governor, he seldom visited that corner of Russia, spending most of the time in London an toying with his pet football club, Chelsea.
legendary
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A word about oligarchs. Abramovich was mentioned, and he and his ilk are no better than Khodorkovskij. With one difference. When Putin was elected President, he had to reign in the destructive activity of the oligarchs. One way was through confiscations, but that would create too much turmoil (both locally and internationally - just look how much noise Khodorkovskij manages to create) and be too disruptive to the shaky state Russia was in, so the oligarchs were offered a deal instead. They keep most of what they "acquired", and in return they invest some of that into the most desperate areas of Russian economy and they also stay out of politics. Abramovich was tasked to bring up to speed the poorest and least developed region of Russia - Chukotka, the governor of which he was appointed. In the end he kept both points of the bargain and is now seldom seen on the media horizon. Khvodorkovskij chose the path dictated by his overseas masters...

I haven't heard about Roman Abramovich for a very long time. Is he still alive? A few years ago, I read somewhere that he resigned from the post of governor of Chukotka and shifted his residence to London.

I wonder why gov released him... They should've let him to serve 20-30 years behind bars.

He (either indirectly or directly) caused the deaths of tens of thousands of people. A prison sentence would be too lax. He should be shot in the back of his head, at point blank.
legendary
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I wonder why gov released him... They should've let him to serve 20-30 years behind bars.
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I guess Khodorkovsky largely lost his significance and getting out of fashion, so he need to voice his some mainstream opinion, otherwise he will be forgotten by his supporters (but perhaps not by his opponents).
legendary
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Recently, a lawsuit has been filed by the taxation watchdog against company where my friend is working. It's funny but this case was examined by the same judge, who worked on Yukos case. Grin
legendary
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With regard to Khodorkovskij's "prediction" on the OP that Russia will disintegrate - this is nothing but voicing of a dream and a goal of his masters. This goal has been in effect for several centuries. Here is a short recap of the previous such attempts, often facilitated by the likes of Khodorkovskij:
- 1854 - invasion of Russia on multiple fronts, repelled everywhere, but in Crimea
- 1914 - manipulative politics, which succeeded in drawing Russia into WWI. It had nothing to gain and everything to lose from that war.
- Colour revolution of February 1917 as the consequence of the above, which destroyed Russian governance and nad paved way to
- Coup d'etat of October 1917, when Russia was partially dismembered
- 1941-1945. US-financed Nazi GErmany and its attempt at further dismemberment of re-unifying Russia
- Coup d'etat and of 1991 and the destruction of USSR, staring destruction of a unified economic and defensive space
- Coup d'etat of November 1993 - staged by US State Dept., and costing 2000 people in Moscow their lives, this coup solidified US puppet Yeltsin for further 7 years, plunging Russian into the Wild 90's - its drakes stretch since the 1500's Times of Trouble

Now let's look at Khodorkovskij. In USSR he was head of the all-Soviet Communist Youth Organisation (Komsomol). Under Yeltsin, he was entrusted with administration of the the state oil and gas industry. Through a series of manipulations, thefts, he turned into an "owner" of said industry. By the time he was arrested, he was on literary on the was to board a plane to US, where he was slated to sign a deal, transferring control of Russia's oil and gas resources to some American companies. Khodorkovskij was promised Russian presidency for delivering control Russia's resources, much like Poroshenko was given presidency in Ukraine.

A word about oligarchs. Abramovich was mentioned, and he and his ilk are no better than Khodorkovskij. With one difference. When Putin was elected President, he had to reign in the destructive activity of the oligarchs. One way was through confiscations, but that would create too much turmoil (both locally and internationally - just look how much noise Khodorkovskij manages to create) and be too disruptive to the shaky state Russia was in, so the oligarchs were offered a deal instead. They keep most of what they "acquired", and in return they invest some of that into the most desperate areas of Russian economy and they also stay out of politics. Abramovich was tasked to bring up to speed the poorest and least developed region of Russia - Chukotka, the governor of which he was appointed. In the end he kept both points of the bargain and is now seldom seen on the media horizon. Khvodorkovskij chose the path dictated by his overseas masters...

EDIT: Some relevant reading here:
http://stanislavs.org/the-wild-90s-in-russia-as-reflected-in-peoples-memory/
http://stanislavs.org/for-russia-90s-were-worse-than-wwii/
legendary
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This guy became a very wealthy man while the Russian people struggled to survive.
We are now supposed to believe him.

And he is now the darling of the NATO. The Americans want to topple Putin (who drove the oligarchs out of Russia and ended their exploitation) and replace him with douchebags such as Khodorkovsky and Kasparov. The real intention of the Americans are very clear. They want to destroy Russia, just like they destroyed once powerful countries such as Germany and Japan.
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