Topic: Kim is less likely to solve the problem peacefully. (Read 1320 times)
I do believe that the Russians were responsible for the beginning of the second world war together with Germany. Just Stalin, escaped trial because he was a winner, and as you know the winners are not judged.
I agree with your logic, but with some reservations. In addressing who is right and who is wrong is always the winning side has the advantage. During world war 2 the Russians destroyed not fewer cities than the Germans. They just won and they are not judged. If the US would have lost the war they would be tried for the use of the atomic bomb. The world recognizes only force.
I can't agree with you 100%. After the war, only the Germans and the Japanese were asked to pay the repatriations. There is a reason for that. The world war 2 was started by these two nations. The Americans and the Russians also committed a lot of crimes, but they argued that they were just defending against the German/Jap aggression.
There weren't many accusations against the Russians, because they had huge losses and really struggled to push the Germans back, but it was due to circumstances not their own choice. Stalin's choice was to start a war along with Hitler and divide Europe. If they weren't attacked and haven't lost so many people defending against a superior army, they wouldn't end up taking Berlin.
After the war, the Russians forced the Nazis to cede their eastern territories to Poland. If the USSR wanted, then they could have annexed these areas. Rather than doing that, they gifted these territories to Poland (Posen, Westpreußen, Ostpreußen, Ostpommern, Neumark, Oberschlesien, and Niederschlesien). If you are so bitter about the Russians, then please return these territories to Germany.
How nice of them. Stalin wasn't dumb, he saw repeated armed uprisings against the Germans on Polish lands and knew it was better to create a puppet communist government, that will serve Russia, instead of trying to annex the lands and have to struggle with guerilla fighters. He also took some precautions and murdered Polish military, political, and church leaders in Katyn. I think the whole world should be bitter about them instead of giving full responsibility for the war to the Nazis.
There will be no peace unless kim will die. Because he is the only terror to the world peace. He is crazy to develop nuclear missile that will reach the America. This way of thinking is not good on world peace and needs immediate precaution to stop this idiot dictator. China must do something.
Unfortunately, Kim is not the only terror to the world. There's still ISIS. And I think killing Kim will only make it worse and push NK to war, those fanatics will want to avenge their leader-god.
There will be no peace unless kim will die. Because he is the only terror to the world peace. He is crazy to develop nuclear missile that will reach the America. This way of thinking is not good on world peace and needs immediate precaution to stop this idiot dictator. China must do something.
I agree with your logic, but with some reservations. In addressing who is right and who is wrong is always the winning side has the advantage. During world war 2 the Russians destroyed not fewer cities than the Germans. They just won and they are not judged. If the US would have lost the war they would be tried for the use of the atomic bomb. The world recognizes only force.
I can't agree with you 100%. After the war, only the Germans and the Japanese were asked to pay the repatriations. There is a reason for that. The world war 2 was started by these two nations. The Americans and the Russians also committed a lot of crimes, but they argued that they were just defending against the German/Jap aggression.
There weren't many accusations against the Russians, because they had huge losses and really struggled to push the Germans back, but it was due to circumstances not their own choice. Stalin's choice was to start a war along with Hitler and divide Europe. If they weren't attacked and haven't lost so many people defending against a superior army, they wouldn't end up taking Berlin.
After the war, the Russians forced the Nazis to cede their eastern territories to Poland. If the USSR wanted, then they could have annexed these areas. Rather than doing that, they gifted these territories to Poland (Posen, Westpreußen, Ostpreußen, Ostpommern, Neumark, Oberschlesien, and Niederschlesien). If you are so bitter about the Russians, then please return these territories to Germany.
I agree with your logic, but with some reservations. In addressing who is right and who is wrong is always the winning side has the advantage. During world war 2 the Russians destroyed not fewer cities than the Germans. They just won and they are not judged. If the US would have lost the war they would be tried for the use of the atomic bomb. The world recognizes only force.
I can't agree with you 100%. After the war, only the Germans and the Japanese were asked to pay the repatriations. There is a reason for that. The world war 2 was started by these two nations. The Americans and the Russians also committed a lot of crimes, but they argued that they were just defending against the German/Jap aggression.
There weren't many accusations against the Russians, because they had huge losses and really struggled to push the Germans back, but it was due to circumstances not their own choice. Stalin's choice was to start a war along with Hitler and divide Europe. If they weren't attacked and haven't lost so many people defending against a superior army, they wouldn't end up taking Berlin.
I agree with your logic, but with some reservations. In addressing who is right and who is wrong is always the winning side has the advantage. During world war 2 the Russians destroyed not fewer cities than the Germans. They just won and they are not judged. If the US would have lost the war they would be tried for the use of the atomic bomb. The world recognizes only force.
I can't agree with you 100%. After the war, only the Germans and the Japanese were asked to pay the repatriations. There is a reason for that. The world war 2 was started by these two nations. The Americans and the Russians also committed a lot of crimes, but they argued that they were just defending against the German/Jap aggression.
There weren't many accusations against the Russians, because they had huge losses and really struggled to push the Germans back, but it was due to circumstances not their own choice. Stalin's choice was to start a war along with Hitler and divide Europe. If they weren't attacked and haven't lost so many people defending against a superior army, they wouldn't end up taking Berlin.
If Nazi's won the world war that spider freak would be sucking Hitler's ballz right now. According to his logic, USA is a saint and Japans&Germans&Russians&Iranians and every other nation out there are evil.
USA did the most terrible act in whole human history (nukes) yet he still finds USA rightful for their actions. Japan was winning against USA, that's why USA went mad and nuked them. They are the dirty bitches of the mankind. They have no honor. They hit below the belt because there wasn't another choice for them to survive. Some may argue that there is no honor in war at all, but then why are they crying like bitchez for Syria having chemical weapons? Why did they invade Iraq for having nukes? (there weren't any) They say it was unethicalll! Yeaa
If you think other countries don't see this and you must be stupid. Russia sees this, Iran does. NK does. And with the slightest threat USA makes to them; they will be nuking the shit out of USA. Because they know it now; If they don't, USA will. Because there are no fucking rules. USA was weak and broke the rules once, now there isn't any.
Hitler looks like a peaceful guy compared to what USA is. Because he knew how to lose like a man. USA don't.
USA did the most terrible act in whole human history (nukes) yet he still finds USA rightful for their actions. Japan was winning against USA, that's why USA went mad and nuked them. They are the dirty bitches of the mankind. They have no honor. They hit below the belt because there wasn't another choice for them to survive. Some may argue that there is no honor in war at all, but then why are they crying like bitchez for Syria having chemical weapons? Why did they invade Iraq for having nukes? (there weren't any) They say it was unethicalll! Yeaa
If you think other countries don't see this and you must be stupid. Russia sees this, Iran does. NK does. And with the slightest threat USA makes to them; they will be nuking the shit out of USA. Because they know it now; If they don't, USA will. Because there are no fucking rules. USA was weak and broke the rules once, now there isn't any.
Hitler looks like a peaceful guy compared to what USA is. Because he knew how to lose like a man. USA don't.
I agree with your logic, but with some reservations. In addressing who is right and who is wrong is always the winning side has the advantage. During world war 2 the Russians destroyed not fewer cities than the Germans. They just won and they are not judged. If the US would have lost the war they would be tried for the use of the atomic bomb. The world recognizes only force.
I can't agree with you 100%. After the war, only the Germans and the Japanese were asked to pay the repatriations. There is a reason for that. The world war 2 was started by these two nations. The Americans and the Russians also committed a lot of crimes, but they argued that they were just defending against the German/Jap aggression.
I agree with your logic, but with some reservations. In addressing who is right and who is wrong is always the winning side has the advantage. During world war 2 the Russians destroyed not fewer cities than the Germans. They just won and they are not judged. If the US would have lost the war they would be tried for the use of the atomic bomb. The world recognizes only force.
I am only saying this: Why? Why now? Why not 10 years ago but now? If you read what i said, you'll understand why. They need it, that's why.
USA don't like Iranians and Chinese as much as they don't like Koreans. But they can't attack them. For now. Why? Because they heff nooo powaaa
Now because NK is on the verge of nuclear power and the ability to deploy it.. They just threatened to nuke Australia..
USA heff tha powaaa don't kid yourself..
The ones I pity the most are the NK citizens eating grass and bark.. Liberating them is also a great motivator in my mind..
Unlike the middle east the IQ mean of NK is capable of supporting democracy and running a decent government..
So USA have to act as a world police and punish NK because they threatened Australia? Is this the angle you are taking?
What's Australia's opinion on the subject? Did they ask for help from USA? Are they in danger?
You are talking out of your ass and you have no fucking answers. This is a freak show and we have to watch it on CNN.
Yes the USA has to be the world police.
Why? Because the powers in Europe just sat back and watched while Hitler massacred and took countries. The Russians were no better, they join him. Someone has to protect the world from psychopaths. The USA seems to be the only one with reason.
Yes, they are Police. Remember Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Someone has to protect from terror by becoming the biggest terrorist itself.
Yes I do.
Dresden was firebombed and rightfully so. The German people voted Hitler into power so they are responsible for his atrocities as well. The rest of the German cities should have met the same fate. Its only fair, the Germans destroyed most of the Europe's and Russian cities along with many of the residents. The Germans were the aggressors so they need to pay.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, yes the stubborn and fanatical Japs needed a wake up call (YOUR DEFEATED SURRENDER NOW). I would have dropped those nukes on larger cities but I guess the American president was being kind. He did save millions of lives by doing so, both Japs and Americans so I think the nuking of their cities is their own fault. They were the aggressors so they need to pay.
I am only saying this: Why? Why now? Why not 10 years ago but now? If you read what i said, you'll understand why. They need it, that's why.
USA don't like Iranians and Chinese as much as they don't like Koreans. But they can't attack them. For now. Why? Because they heff nooo powaaa
Now because NK is on the verge of nuclear power and the ability to deploy it.. They just threatened to nuke Australia..
USA heff tha powaaa don't kid yourself..
The ones I pity the most are the NK citizens eating grass and bark.. Liberating them is also a great motivator in my mind..
Unlike the middle east the IQ mean of NK is capable of supporting democracy and running a decent government..
So USA have to act as a world police and punish NK because they threatened Australia? Is this the angle you are taking?
What's Australia's opinion on the subject? Did they ask for help from USA? Are they in danger?
You are talking out of your ass and you have no fucking answers. This is a freak show and we have to watch it on CNN.
Yes the USA has to be the world police.
Why? Because the powers in Europe just sat back and watched while Hitler massacred and took countries. The Russians were no better, they join him. Someone has to protect the world from psychopaths. The USA seems to be the only one with reason.
Yes, they are Police. Remember Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Someone has to protect from terror by becoming the biggest terrorist itself.
Kim cannot back down on this, his generals would probably killed him. And Trump and war industries will get their war they wanted. Time and time again those corporations running USA would prefer profit over millions of lives. Good Luck, World War 3 is coming.
You really believe that the generals can organize a revolt against Kim? I don't believe it. North Korea's rigid dictatorship that does not tolerate dissent. All who could resist Kim has long been killed. Maybe because Kim and behaves so that he does afraid to tell the truth.There is no way Kim can surrender his nuclear and missiles. In a slightest hint his generals would kill Kim and replace him with lookalike dummy.
I am only saying this: Why? Why now? Why not 10 years ago but now? If you read what i said, you'll understand why. They need it, that's why.
USA don't like Iranians and Chinese as much as they don't like Koreans. But they can't attack them. For now. Why? Because they heff nooo powaaa
Now because NK is on the verge of nuclear power and the ability to deploy it.. They just threatened to nuke Australia..
USA heff tha powaaa don't kid yourself..
The ones I pity the most are the NK citizens eating grass and bark.. Liberating them is also a great motivator in my mind..
Unlike the middle east the IQ mean of NK is capable of supporting democracy and running a decent government..
So USA have to act as a world police and punish NK because they threatened Australia? Is this the angle you are taking?
What's Australia's opinion on the subject? Did they ask for help from USA? Are they in danger?
You are talking out of your ass and you have no fucking answers. This is a freak show and we have to watch it on CNN.
Yes the USA has to be the world police.
Why? Because the powers in Europe just sat back and watched while Hitler massacred and took countries. The Russians were no better, they join him. Someone has to protect the world from psychopaths. The USA seems to be the only one with reason.
Kim cannot back down on this, his generals would probably killed him. And Trump and war industries will get their war they wanted. Time and time again those corporations running USA would prefer profit over millions of lives. Good Luck, World War 3 is coming.
You really believe that the generals can organize a revolt against Kim? I don't believe it. North Korea's rigid dictatorship that does not tolerate dissent. All who could resist Kim has long been killed. Maybe because Kim and behaves so that he does afraid to tell the truth.
Kim cannot back down on this, his generals would probably killed him. And Trump and war industries will get their war they wanted. Time and time again those corporations running USA would prefer profit over millions of lives. Good Luck, World War 3 is coming.
Daniel91
Yes North Korea is communist country, where one guy decides about everything. But what is difference between him and American propaganda, military establishment, and people who rule from shadow. You can't tell that people like that don't exist in America. And I don't think North Korea would attack anyone first. Yes they did it in 1950. but they are not going to do it now. But N.Korean regime need to be changed. That is true. If there is democracy in North Korea they could be strong like South Korea or Japan. Because they are hard working people and are really smart. Only question is how their government could be changed. They are hard core communists, they people learn to like Jong Un family when they are kids. I only hope that there is not going to be some major war, cause there would be lot of casualties from both Koreas..
Yes North Korea is communist country, where one guy decides about everything. But what is difference between him and American propaganda, military establishment, and people who rule from shadow. You can't tell that people like that don't exist in America. And I don't think North Korea would attack anyone first. Yes they did it in 1950. but they are not going to do it now. But N.Korean regime need to be changed. That is true. If there is democracy in North Korea they could be strong like South Korea or Japan. Because they are hard working people and are really smart. Only question is how their government could be changed. They are hard core communists, they people learn to like Jong Un family when they are kids. I only hope that there is not going to be some major war, cause there would be lot of casualties from both Koreas..
It's not so simple, as you think.
North Korea is brutal dictatorship since 1945 when Kim's grandfather become first president.
In the past they already invited South Korea, but America saved South at that time, by sending military troops.
Only reason why North Korea never invited South again is because of American military support last 60-70 years.
North Korea is brutal dictatorship since 1945 when Kim's grandfather become first president.
In the past they already invited South Korea, but America saved South at that time, by sending military troops.
Only reason why North Korea never invited South again is because of American military support last 60-70 years.
You can't blame the North Koreans for everything. I have noticed that in most of the cases, they are reacting to the provocations created by the Americans and the North Koreans. Perhaps the situation will improve, if the South is allowed to directly deal with the North.
I just shared simple facts.
North Korea invited South back in 1950.
America and UN saved South at that time, with military intervention of 16 countries under UN mandate.
The only reason why South Korea remained free land was due to US military protection.
So, we can't really say that North Korea is peaceful country.
There are numerous UN resolutions calling for the North Korea to stop a nuclear program that seriously endangers all neighbors, South Korea, Japan ... but without success.
So it can not be said that the international community didn't try to solve this problem, but North Korea refuses any cooperation with the international community (UN) and continually provokes and develops its nuclear program.
They do not want to talk directly to South Korea because they do not consider them as real country but American satellite.
In North Korea, one person decides about everything, including nuclear attack.
So, it's fact that North Korea is problem here, not vice versa.
It's not so simple, as you think.
North Korea is brutal dictatorship since 1945 when Kim's grandfather become first president.
In the past they already invited South Korea, but America saved South at that time, by sending military troops.
Only reason why North Korea never invited South again is because of American military support last 60-70 years.
North Korea is brutal dictatorship since 1945 when Kim's grandfather become first president.
In the past they already invited South Korea, but America saved South at that time, by sending military troops.
Only reason why North Korea never invited South again is because of American military support last 60-70 years.
You can't blame the North Koreans for everything. I have noticed that in most of the cases, they are reacting to the provocations created by the Americans and the North Koreans. Perhaps the situation will improve, if the South is allowed to directly deal with the North.
The latest provocation involving USS Carl Vinson is entirely unnecessary, especially when the Chinese president Xi Jinping is trying so hard to achieve a compromise between the Americans and the North Koreans. Perhaps Trump should stop his provocations now?
That's why I said before, If war erupts, USA will be put to blame for provoking North Korea. Kim will simply say that he is just defending his sovereign country and this will be his justification if ever he is going to strike USA or any other Asian neighbors. He will play the USA as the villain in this war and he, the protector of his nation. So that he can gain support from our country as well and will have support if needed. But again, I'm hoping that there will be no WW3 and all can be directed thorough diplomatic channel.
I am not sure whether the war will erupt or not. But one thing is sure. During the last few days, the Americans have damaged their international reputation by participating in these provocations. On the other hand, China has gained a lot of positive reputation, by trying to diffuse the tensions.
Who knows, maybe that's really what Washington is trying to do. For the longest time Beijing has turned a blind eye to the Kim dynasty's excesses. They benefited from the status quo, being pretty much NoKor's only trade partner has allowed them to exploit its resources and they have a gadfly they can use to frustrate America's intentions on the peninsula.
With the situation escalating to actual positioning of forces though, China can no longer stand back and continue to be Kim's doting godfather.
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