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1.21 GIGA WATTS
October 14, 2013, 07:07:14 AM
tracking numbers are being issued now...  

edit. sorry wrong thread, I thought I was in KNC official thread  Embarrassed
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 05:42:13 AM
the core with 0.95 run asap

or you wait some hours before wake up the dead core?

with 0.94 and 0.95 my ASIC slot #4 give me always this:

ASIC slot 4  
Temperature sensor: 32.0 C

Die ID   Cores ON   Cores OFF   %
0   48   0   100
1   0   48   0
2   47   1   97.9
3   48   0   100

(the temp differ sometimes but only by half a Celsius or so)

unfortunately for various reasons I hadn't data for 0.90 to 0.93.
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 05:37:04 AM
the core with 0.95 run asap

or you wait some hours before wake up the dead core?
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 05:23:25 AM
how do 0.95 and only 48 core

when i install 0.95 firmware my jupiter
have all the asic chip off

you how do these with firmware 0.95( i mean only 48 core off) Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

dunno really. it simply works like that. I didn't anything fancy just upgrade from .94 to .95.

anyway if your miner work better with 0.91 stick with it.
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 05:20:46 AM
how do 0.95 and only 48 core

when i install 0.95 firmware my jupiter
have all the asic chip off

you how do these with firmware 0.95( i mean only 48 core off) Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 05:17:17 AM


I have this

ASIC slot 4   
Temperature sensor: 32.0 C

Die ID   Cores ON   Cores OFF   %
0   48   0   100
1   0   48   0
2   47   1   97.9
3   48   0   100

DC/DC ID   ON/OFF   Status   Input Voltage   Output Voltage   Output Current
0   ON   OK   11.9 V   0.738 V   38 A (28 W)
1   OFF   OFF   11.9 V   0.714 V   0 A
2   ON   OK   11.9 V   0.821 V   14.8 A (12.2 W)
3   OFF   OFF   11.9 V   0.816 V   0 A
4   ON   OK   11.9 V   0.742 V   38.5 A (28.6 W)
5   OFF   OFF   11.9 V   0.71 V   0 A
6   OFF   OFF   11.9 V   0.74 V   0 A
7   ON   OK   11.9 V   0.752 V   41.3 A (31.1 W)


legendary
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October 14, 2013, 05:14:46 AM
sickpig


what psu you have for jupiter?

also what fimware now you run at jupiter?
you have 48 core off at board with sticker number 3?


psu: cooler master v850
fw:   0.95
yes I have 48 core off at with sticker number 3

sr. member
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Learn to go against your mind
October 14, 2013, 05:08:27 AM


I have this
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 04:47:46 AM
sickpig


what psu you have for jupiter?

also what fimware now you run at jupiter?
you have 48 core off at board with sticker number 3?
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 04:47:23 AM
Major update: (a VRM comes back to life, lots of rambling, no sleep, sorry)

Since I really want to split up jupiters into saturns some day, I ran some more solo and paired tests.   It is true that when you run one or two modules they seem to fly.
It seems the controller board has some explainin' to do.   I was able to get ~270Gh paired and ~135Gh solo but when putting those three together it was a disaster.
Cores flopping on one chip that seems really picky when not running solo or paired. Instead of a total over ~400 it would be under ~360 or worse for the three boards

Then as I was putting everything back in resignation, setting up my auto-restart script again for .94 and settling for ~410Gh... I saw the dead VRM  show output current again (instead of < 1)

quickly I updated to .95 (yes that is what started this mess, but now I believe I could preserve it by not overclocking it anymore)
also, that board was a #1 sticker board which usually have perfect ASICs in them (hardly any cores go down) so it was good to see that VRM wake the hell up again and use more the 3 dies

and here I stand with ~480Gh running the safer .95 which was only getting ~360Gh before.
I am not back to the ~520 it was running overclocked, and it is tempting, but I'll just take the lower wattage and being close to what I had for now.

time to get some sleep


(ps - if you ever want to save a file on the miner, put it in /config since most everything gets rewritten on reboot)






by chance did you measure BeagleBloard load (using uptime) while you test the "Saturn" configuration?
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October 14, 2013, 04:42:43 AM
You might want to give 0.93 a try.

I think that gives the best performance so far for Saturns.
I'm trying it out now, 0.93 seems good. I'll add it to my stats after running it 24h.
Well, I cannot add any stats, CGMiner was restarting every 2/3 hours. Looks like it's back to 0.94.
I have a board 1 and 2 with 4 VRMs per board.

.93 restarts often if you have hardware issues..  .94 will just let you slowly go down.  That is why I wrote a auto-restart script that would run every hour or so when I was forced to run .94 instead of .93 (had a board with a dormant VRM that wouldn't let me run .93 anymore)

but it came back to life now (see above post) so I am running the safe and slow .95 since that miner has had stability issues.
 
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October 14, 2013, 04:38:18 AM
You might want to give 0.93 a try.

I think that gives the best performance so far for Saturns.
I'm trying it out now, 0.93 seems good. I'll add it to my stats after running it 24h.
Well, I cannot add any stats, CGMiner was restarting every 2/3 hours. Looks like it's back to 0.94.
I have a board 1 and 2 with 4 VRMs per board.
sr. member
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October 14, 2013, 04:36:07 AM
Major update: (a VRM comes back to life, lots of rambling, no sleep, sorry)

Since I really want to split up jupiters into saturns some day, I ran some more solo and paired tests.   It is true that when you run one or two modules they seem to fly.
It seems the controller board has some explainin' to do.   I was able to get ~270Gh paired and ~135Gh solo but when putting those three together it was a disaster.
Cores flopping on one chip that seems really picky when not running solo or paired. Instead of a total over ~400 it would be under ~360 or worse for the three boards

Then as I was putting everything back in resignation, setting up my auto-restart script again for .94 and settling for ~410Gh... I saw the dead VRM  show output current again (instead of < 1)

quickly I updated to .95 (yes that is what started this mess, but now I believe I could preserve it by not overclocking it anymore)
also, that board was a #1 sticker board which usually have perfect ASICs in them (hardly any cores go down) so it was good to see that VRM wake the hell up again and use more the 3 dies

and here I stand with ~480Gh running the safer .95 which was only getting ~360Gh before.
I am not back to the ~520 it was running overclocked, and it is tempting, but I'll just take the lower wattage and being close to what I had for now.

time to get some sleep


(ps - if you ever want to save a file on the miner, put it in /config since most everything gets rewritten on reboot)



legendary
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October 14, 2013, 03:03:26 AM
I'm having the opposite problem with my bad Jupiter.

I have the three good ones have a sticker 2 on them.  The bad one is a sticker of 1.

My other two Jupiters running perfectly fine though have the same configuration.

1 2
2 2

I have 4 VRM's per board fyi.

mine has 8 VRMs per board.

did you have any chance to use bertmod  to get an idea of cores status on your board?

if not look at this mini-guide to get asic status without the need of installing the bertmod fw

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3320948

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October 14, 2013, 02:51:23 AM
I'm having the opposite problem with my bad Jupiter.

I have the three good ones have a sticker 2 on them.  The bad one is a sticker of 1.

My other two Jupiters running perfectly fine though have the same configuration.

1 2
2 2

I have 4 VRM's per board fyi.
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 02:31:10 AM
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October 14, 2013, 01:36:01 AM
legendary
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October 14, 2013, 01:12:14 AM

Can anyone running the factory 0.90 (no upgrades ever made) please share a full image of their firmware?



No unfortunately. So you think that the 0.90 they provided is different from the original?
legendary
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October 13, 2013, 11:46:03 PM
@ Sitarow:  let us know which front fans you get, I am shopping as well.   You have the good early miner so I would say no one will have better conditions than you for jupiters.
That is why I am planning on making two saturns from my one jupiter.  If I can't get another controller from KNC, I will atleast cut the case in half (front and back) then put the back part 90 degrees like |_ so the ASIC cables can still connect from the separated case.  I can make a makeshift grill to hold new case fans in front of it


@ jelin:  It is a 850psu that was running 770 watts stable.  Some say they got their dead dies to come back, we'll see if I play around with that as solo sometime

http://www.microcenter.com/product/410331/Hale90_Series_V2_850_Watt_Modular_Power_Supply


@ ecliptic: I would like KNC to explain the decision more.  The VRMs had their caps and everything around removed from the board so they sure saved a few nickles at our expense.  I am still baking my 4 VRM boards since they give better performance than using .95

I had posted early in this thread as to what ones I would be trying out first.

Here is a photo of both the one I am going to use compared to an avalon fan.



You can read this post here for more info.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3303326

You can find the avalon fans at the link below

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045733JE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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October 13, 2013, 08:41:04 PM

Can anyone running the factory 0.90 (no upgrades ever made) please share a full image of their firmware?

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