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Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 19, 2023, 07:49:52 AM

I guess it is distrusting, because it will reduce your trust score and affect your overall forum reputation. But ignoring someone doesn't have any public impact but personal impact. It could be you don't want to see the persons posts.
So, if trust list can be view, ignore list should also.

They are different situations.

The trusted list serves as a recommendation book/complaint book for each user. So logically it should be seen by everyone.
The ignore list is simply me not reading a user's posts.

I can give negative confidence to a user, and at the same time ignore their posts.

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I don't have many people on my ignore list, but I have to admit that it has increased thanks to the fact that I occasionally visit WO and every time I see some very irritating posts from mostly lower-ranked members who are trying all day to catch some merits by posting meaningless links and tagging them with "breaking news". Of course, there are those who do not want or do not know how to reduce the images to the appropriate size, and even when you warn them, they continue to do everything the same as before.

Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 19, 2023, 07:49:52 AM

Having someone put you in their ignore list and having someone distrusting you, which one is more damaging?

As you wrote, what is visible to everyone is more harmful, but I don't think you should mix the trust list and the ignore option, even though it makes sense that someone who doesn't trust a certain member will put the same thing on the ignore list. In addition to what I already wrote in the previous post, maybe trust lists could be one of the indicators for someone to determine whose ignore list they are on.

For those who do not know their trust lists, you can see them at the following link -> https://loyce.club/trust/2023-01-14_Sat_05.07h/index.html which is also available through https://bpip.org/

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on January 19, 2023, 07:49:52 AM

I have a question for you.

Having someone put you in their ignore list and having someone distrusting you, which one is more damaging?

I guess it is distrusting, because it will reduce your trust score and affect your overall forum reputation. But ignoring someone doesn't have any public impact but personal impact. It could be you don't want to see the persons posts.
So, if trust list can be view, ignore list should also.

I have a different perspective on this. Firstly, trust lists are made public in order to prevent manipulation, as they have a significant impact on how the trust system functions overall. Whereas, as you mentioned, ignore lists only affect an individual's experience on the forum.

However, if ignore lists were made public, they would have a much greater detrimental and adverse effect on the individuals who are included on them. Not only would it potentially damage their reputation within the community, but it could also lead to the exclusion of such members from any marketing campaigns and job opportunities on the forum. The perception of being on an ignore list by a significant number of reputable community members could discourage managers from hiring such individuals.

Additionally, making ignore lists public would likely discourage individuals from expressing their opinions or participating in discussions, as they would fear being added to an ignore list and facing the associated consequences. Ultimately, this would likely lead to a less inclusive and less healthy community.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 18, 2023, 07:09:55 AM

Bad idea tbh, don't you think this will create more enemies within one's circle Huh

I also believe the system is built this way to avoid confrontation and justification of why anybody would make it on a user's ignore list and for the sake of the forums harmony it's better this way!

I have a question for you.

Having someone put you in their ignore list and having someone distrusting you, which one is more damaging?

I guess it is distrusting, because it will reduce your trust score and affect your overall forum reputation. But ignoring someone doesn't have any public impact but personal impact. It could be you don't want to see the persons posts.
So, if trust list can be view, ignore list should also.

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Random thoughts when there is such a feature.
Every ignored user will probably have their own thread of drama on this board and slowly the board will lose its essence. Or yeah, other than the bounty board, it will be the second most ignored one.

I may also have to initiate a dispute with some active post reporters so they ignore me and reduce the likelihood that my post will be reported anymore. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: bullrun2024bro on January 19, 2023, 05:17:56 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on January 18, 2023, 09:09:21 AM

Fortunately, I don't think I was personally ignored by anyone.

And even if you are currently trying someone or they don't respond, just let it go. Maybe the person is ignoring you or they just don't want to reply. Just move on. No one can force a user to have a chat.

This doesn't bother me at all. The day things said on the forum really start to affect my life, it's a sign that I have to move away from the forum. But that would hardly happen, I'm a very patient guy. Cool

Quote from: bullrun2024bro on January 19, 2023, 05:17:56 AM

Fortunately, I am relatively sure that @theymos will not change anything in this regard any time soon.

Totally agree! If anyone wants to expose this list, I do so on their own initiative. Everything else must remain private.

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Quote from: joker_josue on January 18, 2023, 06:27:08 AM

Lately I've been wondering if we can find out who ignored us.
Is there any way to find out who ignored us?

No, and that is a damn good thing tbh.

If the blocked person knew they were being blocked, it could quickly end up with countless new accounts being created with only one purpose: Contacting or in some other way attacking the person who has blocked them. And since there are already enough fights here in the forum and the ignore function is one of the few functions to limit these fights, I would find it a great loss of quality if the ignore lists were now to become public.

Fortunately, I am relatively sure that @theymos will not change anything in this regard any time soon.

Quote from: joker_josue on January 18, 2023, 09:09:21 AM

Fortunately, I don't think I was personally ignored by anyone.

And even if you are currently trying someone or they don't respond, just let it go. Maybe the person is ignoring you or they just don't want to reply. Just move on. No one can force a user to have a chat.

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Quote from: Coyster on January 19, 2023, 03:33:26 AM

Lately i have been seeing some users publish their ignore lists in the reputation section of the forum, whilst i do not have any problems with how massive a users ignore list is or whether i'm in it or not, i think publishing your ignore list is unnecessary and creates more forum wars, dramas and counter-ignore cases (e.g Ignoring who ignores you).

Yes, I also think that exposing this situation can create more misunderstandings.

But, I believe that those who do, do not do it to create more wars, but just to justify the reason for doing so in the expectation that some behaviors change. If this will work? I have some doubts. But at least these users are transparent in the community, not hiding.

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Lately i have been seeing some users publish their ignore lists in the reputation section of the forum, whilst i do not have any problems with how massive a users ignore list is or whether i'm in it or not, i think publishing your ignore list is unnecessary and creates more forum wars, dramas and counter-ignore cases (e.g Ignoring who ignores you). If you want to ignore a user, then just do it privately and move on, the ignore feature is available to every user on the forum, thus i don't see what's so special about a users ignore list that they would have to make it public.

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Quote from: joker_josue on January 18, 2023, 12:06:20 PM

I have to agree on that, I think people make a lot of drama out of what is said on the internet, especially by people they don't know and probably never will in real life.

You are right—does it matter if someone ignores someone? We cannot please everyone. Even offline, we have a certain social circle, so everyone is free to draw their conclusions about who and when they want to read. People on the Internet aren't always who they pretend to be, and the aggravation of feelings, our reaction to other people's words, only reveals our intemperance or childishness. Has anyone thought that the person who annoys you on another account can be your friend? And this happens very often; sometimes people get bored with life and put on a bunch of masks because the Internet allows it.
Therefore, as long as you do not communicate with a person face-to-face, do not see his face, hear his voice, or maybe even see his identity card, it is very stupid to react to anyone and also to sort things out with him.

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Quote from: un_rank on January 18, 2023, 11:51:32 AM

If you are worried whether or not a particular user ignored you, that is a good indicator that they were likely right to do so in the first place.

As I said earlier, I'm not the least bit concerned about that. First because I have a clear conscience, and second because I'm not one to make dramas about things on the internet. Cool

I asked if it was possible to obtain this information, because sometimes I see many dramas, which asked me if it was possible to have this information. I might not have known...

Quote from: tranthidung on January 18, 2023, 10:13:33 AM

Public Ignore list is like Public Trust list of forum users. By default, it is private lists (Ignore and Trust lists) but there are some third party sites make it public (Trust list) like BPIP, Loyceclub and people looked at it to find who distrust them and it is one of reasons for drama.

I don't imply that drama won't occur if Trust lists are not publicly seen.

From Trust list and drama, no convincing reason to have public ignore lists by the forum, except some members personally want to show theirs.

I have to agree on that, I think people make a lot of drama out of what is said on the internet, especially by people they don't know and probably never will in real life.

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My ignore list is massive. I highly recommend utilizing this feature. It has changed the forum experience for me. I love it when I come on a topic now and see a bunch of ignored responses. There are plenty of users on this forum who have no problem spreading misinformation about others for no other reason than to get more posts for their signature campaign or to try and feel important getting engagement. I’d share mine but as others have alluded to, it would only stir up more feelings.

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If you are worried whether or not a particular user ignored you, that is a good indicator that they were likely right to do so in the first place.
Except you are a troll or a shitposter, it does not matter and it should not bother you if you have been ignored and there is no point trying to decipher who has you on their list.
If you are a troll or shitposter, fix up

People should be able to privately avoid to see replies or boards they do no wish to see.

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Quote from: Husires on January 18, 2023, 10:46:16 AM

Not sure if it will work but put me on your ignore list and I will try to send you a message.

Unless you are added to ignorelist of messages. You can set it in Personal Message Options, but regarding the ignore list of users it will only limit you from seeing which users' posts will be hidden from you.

Meanwhile, we don't know who has ignored us unless they tell them so themselves. But you might find that you've been ignored if the things Lucius describes happen to you in a discussion. That is one indicator, but still not sure.

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There is one way, although it is not 100% reliable. It happened to me several times that I wrote a post in a topic that gave a direct answer to the question, it also received merits, and then a member who is not a classic shitposter appears and writes a post that is 80% identical in terms of what I wrote. This is a more than good indicator that that member has you on ignore, because if by any chance he had read your post, he would not have repeated everything you said.

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I don't know if that will work but you should not be able to send messages to someone who has ignored you. Therefore, if someone puts you in their ignore list, they will not be able to send you a message.

Not sure if it will work but put me on your ignore list and I will try to send you a message.

The reason for this assumption is that you cannot send merits to a board on your ignore list.

Edit: Not working

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There is no such way and it's kept upto you only whom you put on ignore as this is maintained in the same manner for privacy concern which is good.There are some members who share their ignore list or says about ignoring particular users mostly shit posters whose post they don't want to see but there is no such way of knowing the full details for forum members.

Quote from: Lucius on January 18, 2023, 07:26:05 AM

There is one way, although it is not 100% reliable. It happened to me several times that I wrote a post in a topic that gave a direct answer to the question, it also received merits, and then a member who is not a classic shitposter appears and writes a post that is 80% identical in terms of what I wrote. This is a more than good indicator that that member has you on ignore, because if by any chance he had read your post, he would not have repeated everything you said.

This could be one of the determining factor to see if user has put you on ignore list but there are many users who don't care to read all the post when it's already several pages and your post can match his/hers as you said if he is not classic shitposter so he might be sharing the right information in his post.As we are just assuming this could be reason on ignore list but if you don't have any negative connection and contribute good to the forum why would good poster ignore you?

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Quote from: tranthidung on January 18, 2023, 10:13:33 AM

In some cases, users try to use trust feedback is their tool for their personal notes (I don't want to judge it as personal attacks but it is likely) and I disagree with this use. Even a trust feedback is neutral, if it is unnecessary, it should not exist and should not be abused. Cheesy

Those who do, it's personal that I came to know lately. It was not the same before. Example: Actmyname.
TryNinja's personal note extension is a great tool to avoid the drama. But they will not use it.
Like how many neutral these days you see not inspired with negative value? The sender can not send a red feedback because it will directly question their trustworthiness so they use the loophole.

Quote from: tranthidung on January 18, 2023, 10:13:33 AM

Public Ignore list is like Public Trust list of forum users. By default, it is private lists (Ignore and Trust lists) but there are some third party sites make it public (Trust list) like BPIP, Loyceclub and people looked at it to find who distrust them and it is one of reasons for drama.

Trust list was always public and it's fine that way. But ignoring someone was never meant to be public that's why in the system you do not see others ignore list. For the same reason Bot and TryNinja or BPIP can not scrape the data of someone's ignore list.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 18, 2023, 10:03:52 AM

Jet Cash was the one who started this trend of publicly announcing who he is ignoring. He was basically ignoring merit hunters and spammers. We evolve, and these days the ignore list we see are most out of personal conflicts and dis-likeness. Some feel superior when they announce they are ignoring the person they do not like. I think majority of the drama in the reputation board will reduce when people will stop telling who they are ignoring.

@dkbit98 it was not about your ignore list, please don't think me wrong. I was answering in the general sense.

In general sense, you are right!

Public Ignore list is like Public Trust list of forum users. By default, it is private lists (Ignore and Trust lists) but there are some third party sites make it public (Trust list) like BPIP, Loyceclub and people looked at it to find who distrust them and it is one of reasons for drama.

I don't imply that drama won't occur if Trust lists are not publicly seen.

From Trust list and drama, no convincing reason to have public ignore lists by the forum, except some members personally want to show theirs.

In some cases, users try to use trust feedback is their tool for their personal notes (I don't want to judge it as personal attacks but it is likely) and I disagree with this use. Even a trust feedback is neutral, if it is unnecessary, it should not exist and should not be abused. Cheesy

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Quote from: joker_josue on January 18, 2023, 09:30:59 AM

However, I just saw @dkbit98's post about their ignore list.
Although this information is private, he insisted on publishing it. In my view, congratulations are in order, he is a guy who is open to the community.

Jet Cash was the one who started this trend of publicly announcing who he is ignoring. He was basically ignoring merit hunters and spammers. We evolve, and these days the ignore list we see are most out of personal conflicts and dis-likeness. Some feel superior when they announce they are ignoring the person they do not like. I think majority of the drama in the reputation board will reduce when people will stop telling who they are ignoring.

@dkbit98 it was not about your ignore list, please don't think me wrong. I was answering in the general sense.

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If you don't want to see posts from one member, ignore him or her.

If you used to have serious arguments with someone and could not reach to agreement after all, later and now you don't see that member commented on your posts, don't quote your posts to reply and similarly, it is possibly that member ignored you.

Just possibly and Ignore in this context means either use the Ignore button or don't use that button but simply ignore your posts.

If you know anyone ignore you, let's move on and we can be a member of the forum, use it and live with it peacefully regardless of differences.

Quote from: joker_josue on January 18, 2023, 09:30:59 AM

However, I just saw @dkbit98's post about their ignore list.
Although this information is private, he insisted on publishing it. In my view, congratulations are in order, he is a guy who is open to the community.

It's personal choice and we must respect it.

It is as same as when users requested to change their username/ display name, they can do it publicly including reasons for it or they can keep it privately. It's personal choice.

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