Known alts of anyone: User generated - page 41.

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on February 15, 2016, 01:02:10 PM

No one understands what you're talking about ,neither is anyone interested is knowing whatever it is.You deserved the feedback given by Lutpin.

I should have left that one earlier, considering that I was somehow involved (I manage the Crypto-Games.net twitter campaign, the one he used to "farm" besides Luckybit).
But we didn't have a rule against other advertisers (as we have now), and I even paid him in full back then.

Quote from: ?? on ??

LOL Another Idiot joined the DT ROFL
Get a life man. sigh
I hope that idiot understand what i am talking about Roll Eyes

"#AbuseOfTrust"
yeah yeah, I'm so bad, I know.

Joel_Jantsen

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Get your game girl

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LOL Another Idiot joined the DT ROFL

Get a life man. sigh

I hope that idiot understand what i am talking about Roll Eyes

No one understands what you're talking about ,neither is anyone interested is knowing whatever it is.You deserved the feedback given by Lutpin.

Lutpin

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Activity: 1904

Merit: 1874

Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on February 15, 2016, 11:32:26 AM

I think this got lost in this crazy thread (if its ignored bc this is wrong place or some other reason I apologize - dont mean to spam)

Nothing gets lost, we just aren't up to date with the OP currently.
Also, I wanted to have a look how the situation plays out.

TwitchySeal

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I think this got lost in this crazy thread (if its ignored bc this is wrong place or some other reason I apologize - dont mean to spam)

Quote from: TwitchySeal on February 14, 2016, 01:59:52 PM

Not sure if this is the right place for keeping track of known shill accounts controlled by the same person.

Accounts connected: ftwbtc1, noobtc
Proof: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13883749
Addresses:
Miscellaneous: Betcoin.ag shill accounts. They screwed up recently and made essentially the same post on Betcoins forum and BTCTalk but used different accounts. I am pretty confident I could find enough proof by going through post histories that these two accounts are controlled by the same person who goes by "Betcoin Jessica" on their private forums and the official Betcoin.ag account here just not sure if its worth the effort.

MonetaCoin

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Quote from: Lutpin on February 15, 2016, 09:09:31 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 09:03:53 AM

Quote from: Mickeyb on February 15, 2016, 09:00:55 AM

No, they are on DT, you are not. Your feedback will show up as 'untrusted' while theirs will show up as 'trusted' , theirs can change your trust rating with a positive or negative, yours wont

DT? I don't even really use this forum so no idea what that is. Regardless I'm not worried about the feedback as I haven't done anything to hurt anyone.

Freewold after all, everyone can have their opinions.

What he says is, that shorena and I both are on DT2, meaning our comments will be considered "trusted" for users with default trust settings.
Your comment however will be in the "untrusted" section that is hidden by default.

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 08:59:32 AM

Your right it's just a comment as we're the feedbacks left on me. Wasn't meant to have a negative trust effect on their ratings.

You wouldn't either have. For above reasons, it would only affect our trust score for the small group of users that got you in their trust network.

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 09:03:53 AM

Freewold after all, everyone can have their opinions.

Indeed. We've stated ours, if you got another one, that's your thing.
But don't be upset about us leaving comments, when you are doing the same on return.

Def not upset, am I attacking or anything? Was a question freeworld statement was legit. I just returned the favor it wasn't even negative trust.

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 09:03:53 AM

Quote from: Mickeyb on February 15, 2016, 09:00:55 AM

No, they are on DT, you are not. Your feedback will show up as 'untrusted' while theirs will show up as 'trusted' , theirs can change your trust rating with a positive or negative, yours wont

DT? I don't even really use this forum so no idea what that is. Regardless I'm not worried about the feedback as I haven't done anything to hurt anyone.

Freewold after all, everyone can have their opinions.

What he says is, that shorena and I both are on DT2, meaning our comments will be considered "trusted" for users with default trust settings.
Your comment however will be in the "untrusted" section that is hidden by default.

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 08:59:32 AM

Your right it's just a comment as we're the feedbacks left on me. Wasn't meant to have a negative trust effect on their ratings.

You wouldn't either have. For above reasons, it would only affect our trust score for the small group of users that got you in their trust network.

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 09:03:53 AM

Freewold after all, everyone can have their opinions.

Indeed. We've stated ours, if you got another one, that's your thing.
But don't be upset about us leaving comments, when you are doing the same on return.

Quote from: bitkilo on February 15, 2016, 08:48:25 AM

Sorry i missed all this, wish someone had of PM'd me, nothing shady going on.

Thanks for your PM and sorry you didn't get one from me/YPII earlier.
I've responded you by now.

MonetaCoin

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Quote from: Mickeyb on February 15, 2016, 09:00:55 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 08:59:32 AM

Your right it's just a comment as we're the feedbacks left on me.

No, they are on DT, you are not. Your feedback will show up as 'untrusted' while theirs will show up as 'trusted' , theirs can change your trust rating with a positive or negative, yours wont

DT? I don't even really use this forum so no idea what that is. Regardless I'm not worried about the feedback as I haven't done anything to hurt anyone.

Freewold after all, everyone can have their opinions.

Mickeyb

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Move On !!!!!!

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 08:59:32 AM

Your right it's just a comment as we're the feedbacks left on me.

No, they are on DT, you are not. Your feedback will show up as 'untrusted' while theirs will show up as 'trusted' , theirs can change your trust rating with a positive or negative, yours wont

MonetaCoin

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Activity: 340

Merit: 250

Quote from: Mickeyb on February 15, 2016, 08:58:23 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 08:52:49 AM

Well I see you guys have decided. So I've left a comment with u guys as well. Enjoy running your hate group.

Your feedback doesn't have any affect on anyone's rating, to a normal user its another retaliation feedback on the huge wave of untrusted retaliation feedbacks on their trust page.

Quote from: bitkilo on February 15, 2016, 08:48:25 AM

~snip~

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this was a honest mistake after all

Your right it's just a comment as we're the feedbacks left on me. Wasn't meant to have a negative trust effect on their ratings.

Mickeyb

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Activity: 798

Merit: 1000

Move On !!!!!!

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 08:52:49 AM

Well I see you guys have decided. So I've left a comment with u guys as well. Enjoy running your hate group.

Your feedback doesn't have any affect on anyone's rating, to a normal user its another retaliation feedback on the huge wave of untrusted retaliation feedbacks on their trust page.

Quote from: bitkilo on February 15, 2016, 08:48:25 AM

~snip~

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this was a honest mistake after all

MonetaCoin

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Quote from: shorena on February 15, 2016, 07:36:55 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 06:21:34 AM

Quote from: Lutpin on February 15, 2016, 06:12:05 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 06:07:26 AM

I gave the trust rating on both accounts as u both have stated several times on here that he is the same person.
As to the risk statement, I my self may not have had any risk or problem per say. But every user who took part in his program did take the risk of loosing their funds, regardless of escrow or not.

You risked not a penny, hence your risk amount is 0.
Thb, it has been often discussed, that escrows should even not leave positive trust at all, when acting in their role.
The point of using escrow that you do not have to trust the seller/other party.
And you understand, why it's not ok to get 2 independent trust ratings from 2 accounts being held by the same person over one single action?

We trusted him and still do, using an escrow for these types of programs are the status qou on our forum. User's did take the risk of loosing funds by being involved, they could have lost out on their bonus pay on top of their return.

I also def understand how you guys feel on trust, I feel the same as you guys. That's why i try to work with so many ppl on our forum to ensure and help reduce risk for our user's.

That said we do not publicly and non stop flog our members for their mistakes.

Thats why i added trust to both accounts to help show to you guys there is good in him. Whether u guys believe me or feel we took lil risk, I have at least got ur attention and u have seen some good in him....

quoted for reference.

Well I see you guys have decided. So I've left a comment with u guys as well. Enjoy running your hate group.

bitkilo

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Quote from: Lutpin on February 14, 2016, 10:48:41 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on February 14, 2016, 10:20:13 PM

I would also say that it is not safe to assume that the trust is for the sale of the account because of the time difference. According to zazarb the deal was on Dec 17, however according to the screenshot in the thread in meta(that will likely get moved to reputation), the trust was left ~2 weeks later on the 29th

Alright, let me rephrase it. I personally got the feeling that this trust was leaved over the sale of the account (checked both accounts posts in the 2 weeks from the sale to the feedback).
But since I can't bring up any more than my gut feeling for this I came to the conclusion posted earlier:

Quote from: Lutpin on February 14, 2016, 10:14:12 PM

However, a neutral should sufficient.

Sorry i missed all this, wish someone had of PM'd me, nothing shady going on.
You are correct i did leave the feed back saying something like we did a deal and all went good, this feedback was left due to the sale of the account. The account sale was escrowed by zazarb.

If you think the feedback i left on ausbit account should be removed then just let me know and i can do that for you guys.
I really didn't think leaving trust for an account sale was such a big deal but im happy to remove it.

I am not in DT and don't own any other accounts here or any other forum that are not called bitkilo.
I have not broken any rules in ny time here and have always repaid loans and sent first on other deals, why would you consider me untrustworthy?

As for the escrow i have started to offer my services as a escrow provider at forum.bitcoin.com a forum which i moderate.
https://forum.bitcoin.com/bitkilo-u485/
I was ment to put that part in my signature here but forgot, i will do now.

I really don't thing the negative trust i received from https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/your-point-is-invalid-554884
Is valid, i did not leave feedback on my alt account it was sold and i left feedback saying the deal went good.
I have not escrowed 1 deal here and don't really intent to, all my work is at the other forum.

shorena

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No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 06:21:34 AM

Quote from: Lutpin on February 15, 2016, 06:12:05 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 06:07:26 AM

I gave the trust rating on both accounts as u both have stated several times on here that he is the same person.
As to the risk statement, I my self may not have had any risk or problem per say. But every user who took part in his program did take the risk of loosing their funds, regardless of escrow or not.

You risked not a penny, hence your risk amount is 0.
Thb, it has been often discussed, that escrows should even not leave positive trust at all, when acting in their role.
The point of using escrow that you do not have to trust the seller/other party.
And you understand, why it's not ok to get 2 independent trust ratings from 2 accounts being held by the same person over one single action?

We trusted him and still do, using an escrow for these types of programs are the status qou on our forum. User's did take the risk of loosing funds by being involved, they could have lost out on their bonus pay on top of their return.

I also def understand how you guys feel on trust, I feel the same as you guys. That's why i try to work with so many ppl on our forum to ensure and help reduce risk for our user's.

That said we do not publicly and non stop flog our members for their mistakes.

Thats why i added trust to both accounts to help show to you guys there is good in him. Whether u guys believe me or feel we took lil risk, I have at least got ur attention and u have seen some good in him....

quoted for reference.

MonetaCoin

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Activity: 340

Merit: 250

Quote from: Lutpin on February 15, 2016, 06:12:05 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 06:07:26 AM

I gave the trust rating on both accounts as u both have stated several times on here that he is the same person.
As to the risk statement, I my self may not have had any risk or problem per say. But every user who took part in his program did take the risk of loosing their funds, regardless of escrow or not.

You risked not a penny, hence your risk amount is 0.
Thb, it has been often discussed, that escrows should even not leave positive trust at all, when acting in their role.
The point of using escrow that you do not have to trust the seller/other party.
And you understand, why it's not ok to get 2 independent trust ratings from 2 accounts being held by the same person over one single action?

We trusted him and still do, using an escrow for these types of programs are the status qou on our forum. User's did take the risk of loosing funds by being involved, they could have lost out on their bonus pay on top of their return.

I also def understand how you guys feel on trust, I feel the same as you guys. That's why i try to work with so many ppl on our forum to ensure and help reduce risk for our user's.

That said we do not publicly and non stop flog our members for their mistakes.

Thats why i added trust to both accounts to help show to you guys there is good in him. Whether u guys believe me or feel we took lil risk, I have at least got ur attention and u have seen some good in him....

Lutpin

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Activity: 1904

Merit: 1874

Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 15, 2016, 06:07:26 AM

I gave the trust rating on both accounts as u both have stated several times on here that he is the same person.
As to the risk statement, I my self may not have had any risk or problem per say. But every user who took part in his program did take the risk of loosing their funds, regardless of escrow or not.

You risked not a penny, hence your risk amount is 0.
Thb, it has been often discussed, that escrows should even not leave positive trust at all, when acting in their role.
The point of using escrow that you do not have to trust the seller/other party.
And you understand, why it's not ok to get 2 independent trust ratings from 2 accounts being held by the same person over one single action?

MonetaCoin

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Activity: 340

Merit: 250

Quote from: Lutpin on February 15, 2016, 05:38:42 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on February 15, 2016, 04:37:08 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 14, 2016, 07:44:42 PM

Thank you for working with this user, as an outsider looking in on this thread it seems pretty abusive.... good for teaching a lesson yes. But it seems that lesson has been made and the user is well aware of it. I hope others take ur lead and give him a 2nd chance.

If I can be so bold as to ask you a question:
Why did you give both Alt's glowing trust for what appears to be the same transaction (given that the reference is identical)?

The even better question is, why did both alts give him trust for this same transaction. When people start giving and getting trust from all their alts for a single transaction,
I don't want to see the mess that comes up when SulphurXX gets involved.

I also don't know how MonetaCoin can claim a risked amount of 0.1BTC
As far as I understand the situation, he was holding 0.1BTC of xavTrot6/x_Molotov in escrow, resulting in a 0 risk on his side.

I gave the trust rating on both accounts as u both have stated several times on here that he is the same person.

As to the risk statement, I my self may not have had any risk or problem per say. But every user who took part in his program did take the risk of loosing their funds, regardless of escrow or not.

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Quote from: Lutpin on February 14, 2016, 10:48:41 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on February 14, 2016, 10:20:13 PM

I would also say that it is not safe to assume that the trust is for the sale of the account because of the time difference. According to zazarb the deal was on Dec 17, however according to the screenshot in the thread in meta(that will likely get moved to reputation), the trust was left ~2 weeks later on the 29th

Alright, let me rephrase it. I personally got the feeling that this trust was leaved over the sale of the account (checked both accounts posts in the 2 weeks from the sale to the feedback).
But since I can't bring up any more than my gut feeling for this I came to the conclusion posted earlier:

Quote from: Lutpin on February 14, 2016, 10:14:12 PM

However, a neutral should sufficient.

I do not know reason for this feedback, but you free to ask bitkilo, maybe he
provide sufficient refference to you,
my suggestion- let speak, and the other side before accusing.

Lutpin

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Activity: 1904

Merit: 1874

Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on February 15, 2016, 04:37:08 AM

Quote from: MonetaCoin on February 14, 2016, 07:44:42 PM

Thank you for working with this user, as an outsider looking in on this thread it seems pretty abusive.... good for teaching a lesson yes. But it seems that lesson has been made and the user is well aware of it. I hope others take ur lead and give him a 2nd chance.

If I can be so bold as to ask you a question:
Why did you give both Alt's glowing trust for what appears to be the same transaction (given that the reference is identical)?

The even better question is, why did both alts give him trust for this same transaction. When people start giving and getting trust from all their alts for a single transaction,
I don't want to see the mess that comes up when SulphurXX gets involved.

I also don't know how MonetaCoin can claim a risked amount of 0.1BTC
As far as I understand the situation, he was holding 0.1BTC of xavTrot6/x_Molotov in escrow, resulting in a 0 risk on his side.

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