KryptMiner - 20th/s @ 800w (a new magical miner / scam?)

The Demon Slick

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I really hate to bump this thread, but in the interest of full disclosure, I have recieved two emails from them regarding my previous cancelled order. The first:

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Hi Rick,

Hope you are well. I promised to get back to you just as soon as I had delivery confirmation.

We just received word today that the first batch of PowerDrives is being delivered to us this coming week, so if you still want one please go ahead and pay the invoice being sent to you direct from our payment processor.

Best Regards,

Glenn

And the second, from intellogence, who somebody asked about earlier I believe:

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Hello Rick XXXXX,
You have a new invoice from INTELLOGENCE INC for 5045.00 USD, due on 2018-03-02.
Thank you for your business!
VIEW AND PAY INVOICE
(link removed)
INTELLOGENCE INC
5000 Birch Street, West Tower 3000
Newport Beach CA, 92660
949 394 8591

I have no intention of sending them any money, but as it is part of the story, it seems right to include it. The link goes to invoice.authorize.net/invoicing/ui/#/(an adress) which appears to be a server using microsoft rather than any payment processor I'm aware of. To get further requires entering your cc info, and I'm not going there again. I'm almost 100% sure this is a scam.

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The Demon Slick

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Quote from: yianni on February 16, 2018, 01:54:26 PM

Quote from: RfBTC on February 16, 2018, 11:17:27 AM

Someone has pre-order this "Scam" miner ?, i am talking with Joseph Shamoon ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephshamoon/ ) his uncle seem to be the owner of this brand , http://www.intellogence.com/

He said will sent a Live-video with this Miner working...

That I would like to see !!! They already downgraded their claim from 20TH to 15TH.
But I seriously doubt any FPGA chip can outperform an ASIC.

Shamoon sounds a lot like Shlaimoun, the disgraced husband of Oussha, and known huckster, whose name was on one of the many credit card processors they have used so far. see here:

http://shockermichaelmooreflsfordivorce.blogspot.com/2014/04/white-collared-mining-technologies-vs.html?m=1

yianni

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Quote from: RfBTC on February 16, 2018, 11:17:27 AM

Someone has pre-order this "Scam" miner ?, i am talking with Joseph Shamoon ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephshamoon/ ) his uncle seem to be the owner of this brand , http://www.intellogence.com/

He said will sent a Live-video with this Miner working...

That I would like to see !!! They already downgraded their claim from 20TH to 15TH.
But I seriously doubt any FPGA chip can outperform an ASIC.

RfBTC

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Someone has pre-order this "Scam" miner ?, i am talking with Joseph Shamoon ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephshamoon/ ) his uncle seem to be the owner of this brand , http://www.intellogence.com/

He said will sent a Live-video with this Miner working...

HagssFIN

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And they are still using a picture of the early version AvalonMiner 6 as the picture of "their miner". Cheesy

Lol.

This is a pure scam.

onegiantcock

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/122916273099

They lowered the hashrate! LOL.

Par Avion

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Technically they refunded you, therefore NOT a scam.

Whether its real? Well, thats a different question, but a scam it is not.

yianni

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Quote from: The Demon Slick on February 05, 2018, 09:56:13 AM

Quote from: yianni on February 05, 2018, 09:18:05 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

It's really a scam!!!

It probably is but you do realize that statements like yours are as credible as the statement that kryptminer is legit.
Do you know someone who ordered and got scammed, did you, did you find any evidence online, do you see something on their website that points towards that, God told you?
You have to say something more than "they are a scam" otherwise your comment bears no real value.

I don't know if you read the entire thread, but I did order from them, and was refunded without requesting a refund. In addition they have changed payment processors at least three times that we know of, and the woman behind the ebay account is a bodybuilder and fitness book author with no technical or computer background. The opal kelly board displayed uses an xilnix fpga which is not technically capable of operating in the manner described. I leave it to others to draw thier own conclusions from these facts, but I personally believe it is a scam.

I did read your posts and the entire thread. My reply was to simple statements of the sort "it's a scam" and nothing else. That's why I quoted it.
As I said it is most probably a scam. Based on what you posted, based on my earlier reply that single phase cables cannot handle that kind of load, then it looks like a scam.
I'm just tired of reading statements on this forum of the sort, it's a scam, buy this coin, sell this ... because I said so? No, give me something, explain why it is a scam, tell me why you claim that I should buy or sell this coin, tell me why I need to get into this ICO etc etc.
Anyway I honestly do hope that eventually someone will be able to build what this kryptminer people claim. I'm getting tired of bitmain and them manipulating the market as it suits them. See Sia coin, see bitcoin cash, see dash and so on.

The Demon Slick

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Quote from: yianni on February 05, 2018, 09:18:05 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

It's really a scam!!!

It probably is but you do realize that statements like yours are as credible as the statement that kryptminer is legit.
Do you know someone who ordered and got scammed, did you, did you find any evidence online, do you see something on their website that points towards that, God told you?
You have to say something more than "they are a scam" otherwise your comment bears no real value.

I don't know if you read the entire thread, but I did order from them, and was refunded without requesting a refund. In addition they have changed payment processors at least three times that we know of, and the woman behind the ebay account is a bodybuilder and fitness book author with no technical or computer background. The opal kelly board displayed uses an xilnix fpga which is not technically capable of operating in the manner described. I leave it to others to draw thier own conclusions from these facts, but I personally believe it is a scam.

yianni

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Quote from: ?? on ??

It's really a scam!!!

It probably is but you do realize that statements like yours are as credible as the statement that kryptminer is legit.
Do you know someone who ordered and got scammed, did you, did you find any evidence online, do you see something on their website that points towards that, God told you?
You have to say something more than "they are a scam" otherwise your comment bears no real value.

The Demon Slick

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Quote from: wavelengthsf on February 02, 2018, 08:01:56 PM

Quote from: litmus on February 02, 2018, 07:53:29 PM

Sir, could you please tell us where you happened to come across the https://intellogence.com/ link? Was it in a group or site specifically for advertising in the "community"? Thanks if you have any info. Very curious.

I saw it from a link on Reddit's r/bitcoin

Intellogence was one of their websites. If you look at the card displayed at the kryptminer website, it's an Opal Kelley card and it has intellogence stenciled on one side of it.

wavelengthsf

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Quote from: litmus on February 02, 2018, 07:53:29 PM

Sir, could you please tell us where you happened to come across the https://intellogence.com/ link? Was it in a group or site specifically for advertising in the "community"? Thanks if you have any info. Very curious.

I saw it from a link on Reddit's r/bitcoin

litmus

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Quote from: wavelengthsf on January 11, 2018, 12:26:26 PM

Seems like there is a new magical miner:

https://intellogence.com/powermonitor

...

Sir, could you please tell us where you happened to come across the https://intellogence.com/ link? Was it in a group or site specifically for advertising in the "community"? Thanks if you have any info. Very curious.

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The Demon Slick

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Quote from: yianni on January 31, 2018, 10:03:17 PM

Their Powerserver claims to draw 80KW power at 110-240V. Personally I've never heard of a single phase cable being able to take that kind of load. 3 phase yes, but if that was the case they would have said 220-415V. If we use european voltage which is 230V that would mean around 350A on a single cable !!! You might want to call the fire department before you connect this thing.
It's obvious that something smells fishy here.

I think they're trying to imply they have something like the GMO cards that are still as of yet unseen in the real world. Obviously, they don't.

yianni

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Their Powerserver claims to draw 80KW power at 110-240V. Personally I've never heard of a single phase cable being able to take that kind of load. 3 phase yes, but if that was the case they would have said 220-415V. If we use european voltage which is 230V that would mean around 350A on a single cable !!! You might want to call the fire department before you connect this thing.
It's obvious that something smells fishy here.

jeecom

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I went to their checkout page today. They are currently processing credit cards through GoDaddy (mysimplestore.com). It is highly suspect that they are changing credit card merchants so quickly.

At this point, my vote is this is a scam.

HagssFIN

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Quote from: Druiz287 on January 27, 2018, 05:26:50 PM

We need more people willing to take the risk so that others may not have to.

I disagree.

We need more proof and transparency when a new manufacturer enters the market, so it will be less risky from the very beginning.

Even though Bitmain is not the most likable manufacturer at the moment, they are still a good example entering the market as a new manufacturer with a solid discussion thread here at the forum with the Antminer S1 back in the 2013 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcement-bitmain-launches-antminer-solution-068-jgh-on-chip-330665

Druiz287

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Thanks for making the attempt. We need more people willing to take the risk so that others may not have to. Solid move and you have my respect for trying it out!!

danielyap

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Good try bro...seriously fuck all the weird haters in this thread...You clearly mentioned you're gonna go ahead and try this out, not promoting it. As far as I'm concerned you did us all a favour by going in head on. We have an outcome which really saved all of us the hassle. You did well, cheers!

Par Avion

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Funk the haters, I appreciate you trying. Big ups for the home miners.

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