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legendary
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August 06, 2019, 10:28:36 PM
#86
And how does reading the ToC of the site change the fact that this requirement is something that should be tagged a taboo to casino gambling. Sometimes I wish within me that all players can collectively agree on this and write against KYC policy because definitely, this is something that is not convenient for us as gamblers. How would you feel as a player, after visiting a site you would love to play games, and only to discover there is a policy of KYC in such site?
While there are casinos that have KYC, many bitcoin gambling sites here still don't have KYC and those that do have KYC usually have the same providers or games on different casinos. I don't think you'll be missing out on several games since there's many alternatives to choose from.
legendary
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August 06, 2019, 06:09:30 PM
#85
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.
That is just an excuse, it is true that a small minority of people may try to clean their coins by depositing their money in a casino, gambling a little bit and then get different coins than the ones they deposit, but this is about control, governments want to know what you are doing with your money and that is why they are pressuring any business that deals with cryptocurrencies to ask for KYC, and from the point of view of some casinos this is a great excuse to not pay their customers unless they pass through KYC.
They can keep their funds in gambling sites but if they are going to launder their crypto into cash then they need to go for exchange where KYC is mandatory so people cannot launder their money into cash even if they won it in gambling sites.
How strict really is the KYC verification process of a gambling site? I don't think they do require the same requirement like a bank, so if a person would launder money, they can just use a fake documents and upload that on the site.
hero member
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August 06, 2019, 12:04:09 PM
#84
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Best would be to read the ToS of the website you are using/want to use.
And how does reading the ToC of the site change the fact that this requirement is something that should be tagged a taboo to casino gambling. Sometimes I wish within me that all players can collectively agree on this and write against KYC policy because definitely, this is something that is not convenient for us as gamblers. How would you feel as a player, after visiting a site you would love to play games, and only to discover there is a policy of KYC in such site?

I understand there are other options of site that would or might not have this policy, but understand that leaving your choice of site can be heartbreaking and as well discouraging. I Feel it is really not important and the reason for HAVING kyc ON CASINO SITES IS NOT justified.
hero member
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August 06, 2019, 11:29:16 AM
#83
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.
That is just an excuse, it is true that a small minority of people may try to clean their coins by depositing their money in a casino, gambling a little bit and then get different coins than the ones they deposit, but this is about control, governments want to know what you are doing with your money and that is why they are pressuring any business that deals with cryptocurrencies to ask for KYC, and from the point of view of some casinos this is a great excuse to not pay their customers unless they pass through KYC.
Some gambling ask for KYC for their own safety because they want someone to spoil what they have built for years cause crypto scammer and money launder try different means to achieve their goals and it doesn't take them anything to make deposit into a gambling site while they gamble a little and request for withdrawing in an altcoin to make transaction untraceable to them.
Mind you, back in the early 2016 most exchange site, ICOs project owner, etc, don't require KYC but all that changed after theft abuse cryptocurrencies and I don't think we should blame gambling site that implemented KYC either.
hero member
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August 06, 2019, 09:09:49 AM
#82
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.
That is just an excuse, it is true that a small minority of people may try to clean their coins by depositing their money in a casino, gambling a little bit and then get different coins than the ones they deposit, but this is about control, governments want to know what you are doing with your money and that is why they are pressuring any business that deals with cryptocurrencies to ask for KYC, and from the point of view of some casinos this is a great excuse to not pay their customers unless they pass through KYC.
hero member
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August 03, 2019, 02:32:46 PM
#81
I think that for my part there is no reason to express any dissatisfaction, because I do not see any problems that would prevent me from providing my passport data, especially since today there is a tendency that is aimed at legalizing cryptocurrency, but without control and  Without the provision of KYC, this is not possible.  Nevertheless, I believe that in some cases it is not necessary to provide passport data, especially in gambling, where cryptocurrency is used and I am guided by logic.
I share same view with you on this and we are probably the few that have same opinion on this KYC stuff. The truth is aside the cryptocurrency reason, the major aim of KYC which is to prevent minors from gambling and also to watch the activities of fraudsters it should be enough reason to convince anyone to agree with this policy.

I feel so terrible most times I see very young kids who should be focused on their studies, spending hours on casino site simply because there is no regulation. This is one of the reasons I still prefer gambling centers. Underage are not permitted to play and this is the reason they have all diverted to online gambling.

It will be very good, if we can all support this mission and just trust that the information we supply is safe on whatever sites we gamble and the only work we have to do is ensure to play on reputable sites.
legendary
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August 01, 2019, 02:04:13 PM
#80
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Best would be to read the ToS of the website you are using/want to use.
full member
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August 01, 2019, 12:26:35 PM
#79
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.

Kyc Is not all about money laundering but it do have lots of purpose  . kyc on a gambling/sportsbook is infact usual and okay to do , you will be shock when i tell you that even bounties and airdrops today did also require a kyc . these activities didnt need a cash or a crypto in order to get started  , so will you still complain and argue that a sportsbook/casino will ask for a kyc/pasport ?
I think that for my part there is no reason to express any dissatisfaction, because I do not see any problems that would prevent me from providing my passport data, especially since today there is a tendency that is aimed at legalizing cryptocurrency, but without control and  Without the provision of KYC, this is not possible.  Nevertheless, I believe that in some cases it is not necessary to provide passport data, especially in gambling, where cryptocurrency is used and I am guided by logic.
legendary
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August 01, 2019, 01:44:12 AM
#78
you will be shock when i tell you that even bounties and airdrops today did also require a kyc . these activities didnt need a cash or a crypto in order to get started  ,

I'm not shock at all, I know this, some requires KYC, some didn't.
it's up to the particiapant whether they will comply or not because rules of the bounty still prevail.

so will you still complain and argue that a sportsbook/casino will ask for a kyc/pasport ?

However here, we are the boss, if the gambling site requires KYC and we don't like it, we don't need to complain as we can also find another gambling sites that would cater us.
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July 31, 2019, 11:13:05 PM
#77
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.

Kyc Is not all about money laundering but it do have lots of purpose  . kyc on a gambling/sportsbook is infact usual and okay to do , you will be shock when i tell you that even bounties and airdrops today did also require a kyc . these activities didnt need a cash or a crypto in order to get started  , so will you still complain and argue that a sportsbook/casino will ask for a kyc/pasport ?
full member
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July 31, 2019, 01:51:20 PM
#76
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.
legendary
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July 31, 2019, 11:32:18 AM
#75
I am not in favor of clearing KYC with gambling houses. Still, I have done few times for the reason of getting eligible for withdraw. I am into crypto space for the reason of being anonymous but again enforcing me for revealing my identity is something which makes my reason invalid why I am here.
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 11:17:17 PM
#74
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

If you are doing something shady like parking your coins at their website and trying to withdraw without betting, then you will be at their radar to show who you are and what are you dealing with. For that, they may also ask you for online copies of your utility bill, passport, election ID, your SSN number, tax return slip and ID, etc. They will try their best to get their hands on you if they find you to be involved in any criminal or money laundering activities.
hero member
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July 30, 2019, 07:34:17 PM
#73
Do you need to do KYC in a sportsbook to make a deposit? It seems that it doesn't have to be, because most gambling sites don't have to do KYC for every person / user who plays there. But if you want to do it anyway and you must. You can ask the admin there.
Most casinos will not require KYC when you are making a deposit but if you win and you want you cash out some casinos will not let you do it until you pass KYC, this disparity in their policies is what makes some people angry about having to pass KYC, after all if the casino asked them to pass KYC before they deposited any amount of money chances are they will avoid that casino and play somewhere else but once they win they have to go through it or they will never get access to their profits.
hero member
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July 30, 2019, 12:29:59 PM
#72
Some casinos are being regulated which in result they would need to abide with the laws that why they do ask KYC but majority of them nowadays

do only ask verification if there are various issues related to your account but besides on that they don't really ask something before you can able to play unlike on other typical casinos.
I think this regulation process is what so many gamblers are yet to understand correctly hence the fuss about KYC in gambling section. The truth is, no gambling site likes to lose its client and if the clients are not cool with submitting their private information, they could make it optional but the regulation which is mostly done by the government makes this difficult for them to do.

For me, I do no see ant big deal with this, once you have a trusted casino site, you should understand that whatever information submitted is safe. The only  thing is to try as much as possible  to avoid scam sites. Scam sites that ask for KYC can be very dangerous and they are the reasons people find it difficult to trust other genuine sites.
I think you also do not really understand it very well. This isn’t about regulation but about intruding into a player’s privacy. If you have studied crypt correctly, you will understand that many are interested in it because of its decentralized system, which supports anonymity to a very great extent. This is not an issue of trust or safety; it’s a matter of players not wanting to disclose their identity on a gambling platform. I think we should get that right.

Personally, if it gets to a point where KYC becomes compulsory on gambling sites because of the government policy, I might be left with no choice than to quit gambling completely because if I would drop my identity on any site, then definitely not on gambling platform, reasons are best known to me.
It wont really come to that point for sure.There might be some crypto gambling sites that do abide government policy but not all.This is the beauty of crypto gambling

this is why its booming up and been preferred by most people even those players from typical online fiat casino do consider out crypto gambling due to this anonymity and decentralization things.
hero member
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July 30, 2019, 12:06:41 PM
#71
What the heck why there's a KYC also in gambling. Is this a joke?  Lol it's very unfare to be honest what i mean. because  we all knows gambling is illegal and once goverment become interested on it for sure they can easily find us because of that stuff.  So no way much better to stay away on it for the sake of our information.
Sounds strange to you?? ol this is the new and latest trend bro. Almost all gambling sites now request for KYC. Not only is this unfair but I would say that it is terrible. A good friend of mine still has his money stuck to a site because he couldn’t meet up to the KYC process. It was not a small amount of money and according to him, he only got to know about it when it was time to withdraw .I felt really bad for him and I could just put myself in his shoes.

There are a lot of gamblers, that play from countries where gambling is declared illegal because of the ability to hide IP address and play anonymous. So what is the aim of KYC, is it to scare away this gamblers or how would they cope with this. Its absolute shit I must admit and its important for the issue to be addressed.
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July 30, 2019, 11:39:46 AM
#70
It seems to me that in the near future we will all need to persuade many gamblers in the absence of the danger of providing KYC and that this process will be not only forced, but also the most popular when using not only gambling sites, but also when operating in a cryptocurrency market.

First we need to decide if KYC is absolutely necessary for the gambling sites or not. If it is necessary, then kyc should be made compulsory for all the gambling sites. If you make kyc mandatory in few casino sites and not in others, people will shift to the sites which do not require kyc and hence it will be a disadvantage for the sites where kyc is must.
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 09:55:08 AM
#69
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Refer to the usual requirements on a centralized exchange. It's almost just the same.

But here in crypto, I have rarely seen a sportsbook that implements KYC strictly although some included in their terms. Just be fair and you will have no problem. No torture at all.

Anyways, why asked this question? Kind of confused on "if you deposit with bitcoin". Whatever crypto used for deposits, as long as accounts have shown irregularities, then expects a question from the sportsbooks support.
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July 30, 2019, 09:45:49 AM
#68
In my opinion, before you raise such a question, you must first have reliable information, why cryptocurrency users are afraid to provide passport data and why the gambling site should be provided to KYC.  Although if you return back in 2016, the popularity of cryptocurrency spread not only because of its volatility, but also because of the possibility of anonymously owning your assets.  Today, anonymity melts like ice.
The question sounds very dumb to me. Those who hate submitting the KYC form definitely have their reasons for doing that, and like you said, anonymity was truly what everyone appreciated most about cryptocurrency system. I remember vividly that it was the exact reason I got convinced to go into casino gambling.

But, what I see today is totally an opposite of it was then. Why even ask for these details at all? The questions asked, are they not intruding into a players private affair? And also, how do we trust these sites wholeheartedly to be sure the information is safe with them. All this are the reasons why most gambles never find filling KYC form interesting at.
The question asked by OP seems dumb but there always a reason behind every action and in this situation only the OP knew the reason why he ask the question
With that been said, we cannot blame some gambling site which implemented the KYC system because it took them fortune with huge hours to get their license and to build the name/image of their company and it will be a pain in the butt if someone out there spoil all what they built for many year just in a seconds.
They are implementing the whole system as a precautions and every gamblers which is not cool with KYC idea could just make use of other site which require no KYC.
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 09:32:53 AM
#67
Some casinos are being regulated which in result they would need to abide with the laws that why they do ask KYC but majority of them nowadays

do only ask verification if there are various issues related to your account but besides on that they don't really ask something before you can able to play unlike on other typical casinos.
I think this regulation process is what so many gamblers are yet to understand correctly hence the fuss about KYC in gambling section. The truth is, no gambling site likes to lose its client and if the clients are not cool with submitting their private information, they could make it optional but the regulation which is mostly done by the government makes this difficult for them to do.

For me, I do no see ant big deal with this, once you have a trusted casino site, you should understand that whatever information submitted is safe. The only  thing is to try as much as possible  to avoid scam sites. Scam sites that ask for KYC can be very dangerous and they are the reasons people find it difficult to trust other genuine sites.
I think you also do not really understand it very well. This isn’t about regulation but about intruding into a player’s privacy. If you have studied crypt correctly, you will understand that many are interested in it because of its decentralized system, which supports anonymity to a very great extent. This is not an issue of trust or safety; it’s a matter of players not wanting to disclose their identity on a gambling platform. I think we should get that right.

Personally, if it gets to a point where KYC becomes compulsory on gambling sites because of the government policy, I might be left with no choice than to quit gambling completely because if I would drop my identity on any site, then definitely not on gambling platform, reasons are best known to me.
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