La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 1593.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 25, 2023, 01:51:53 PM

It's no news that Barcelona is currently in a state poor state with their performance and their form, reasons been they may be still suffering some set backs due to injury and they are aswell having some kind of downtime at the moment hence their performance has really dropped.

There has been a history Rayo vallecano with Barcelona having to struggle most of the time to win them or probably end up in a draw with them but this season Barcelona had a fair start and at some point some set back due to injury but in recent times it appears their injured players were back, in the person of lewandoski and others, such that there was a beam of hope with the fact that the return from injury will further help the teams do better but it seems like the reverse has been the case as they have gone below their form at the start of the season.

If we refer to the last four matches, Barcelona must be wary of Rayo Vallecano. Xavi certainly has to remember this and must devise the right strategy so that the winning target is achieved. I still believe that the Blaugrana will be able to perform well even though statistically their performance has decreased.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 25, 2023, 01:51:53 PM

It's no news that Barcelona is currently in a state poor state with their performance and their form, reasons been they may be still suffering some set backs due to injury and they are aswell having some kind of downtime at the moment hence their performance has really dropped.

There has been a history Rayo vallecano with Barcelona having to struggle most of the time to win them or probably end up in a draw with them but this season Barcelona had a fair start and at some point some set back due to injury but in recent times it appears their injured players were back, in the person of lewandoski and others, such that there was a beam of hope with the fact that the return from injury will further help the teams do better but it seems like the reverse has been the case as they have gone below their form at the start of the season.

Am glad that Barcelona didn't secure a loss following their match today. The team is just in need of one key player who is a goal machine, not like Lewandowsky but better than him.
The injury setback in the team should not be reason enough to have them put up a low quality performance for some games now, although Xavi knows this am certain this squad is not going to get any major addition till the end of the season.

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I am interested to see how will Atletico Madrid behave in this upcoming game especially knowing they will be playing in Champions League in this upcoming midweek and they may as well opt to sacrifice some of the key players for that event.They can opt to do so as they have a really low odd of 1.35.The problem is that by putting to sleep these key players they risk to make us a surprise result tonight,I though think that they will win this game as if they manage to not get the full points during this game chances are pretty high they will go down dramatically in the La Liga,they are on a good position yet they need to maximize everything they can.

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It's no news that Barcelona is currently in a state poor state with their performance and their form, reasons been they may be still suffering some set backs due to injury and they are aswell having some kind of downtime at the moment hence their performance has really dropped.

There has been a history Rayo vallecano with Barcelona having to struggle most of the time to win them or probably end up in a draw with them but this season Barcelona had a fair start and at some point some set back due to injury but in recent times it appears their injured players were back, in the person of lewandoski and others, such that there was a beam of hope with the fact that the return from injury will further help the teams do better but it seems like the reverse has been the case as they have gone below their form at the start of the season.

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It was an own goal but if you have watched the ball clearly, you will see that Lewandoski had already positioned himself to head the ball so assuming Lejeune didn't make that blunder, Lewandoski would have scored the goal.

It is quite sad to see Barcelona struggling with their matches and they have also not able to keep the gap between them and Girona with Real Madrid, so that they can also be in the competition. Dropping two points today might affect their race in winning the title. I think Gavi injury and Lewandoski old age is really affecting the performance of the club, but Xavi needs to know how he will manage the club during this critical time because it was a poor result for them today. Although, they were able to put themselves back in the game in the second half.

Barcelona could have lost against Rayo Vallecano if the defense was not as good as it was today. Both teams appeared very enthusiastic throughout the match and I have noticed that matches involving these two teams are often intense. Until the last match, Barcelona had not been able to win a single match against Rayo Vallecano in 5 La Liga meetings, clearly that is a bad record that is still being recorded.

Xavi made rotations for his players in this match even though he shouldn't have done so when Rayo Vallecano was the opponent. Ilkay Gundogan, Kounde and Araujo and Raphinha should have been starters in this match if Barcelona wanted to win, but that didn't happen. This is the 4th time Barcelona have drawn in 14 games, and I hope they won't be as good as last season in the title race. It is clear that today the result of the Vallecano vs Barcelona match will benefit Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Girona.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on November 25, 2023, 12:00:21 PM

Barcelona again played a very disappointing match, the system and style of player is something not attributed to a big team, they go into the match conceding first and then they start to play the catch up game even against small teams that they are expected to demolish.
Today against Barcelona went down to Rayo vallecano in the first half and had to wait late into the second half to equalize by an own goal, it's time Barcelona make a decision on their present coach Xavi Hernandez.

Barcelona have become very unserious this days i will keep saying it even last season they dont deserve, so am not surprised with their performance this night, I only have two winner in mind for la Liga which her Girona and real Madrid does teams show commitment in their current games. Compare to barca, Rayo Vallecano scored 39 minutes of the game and look at the time that Barcelona was trying to equalize it was even like a struggle to me the way they were playing, and Girona is already leading with 34 points and gradually going up and Barcelona is gradually going down if they don't pick on time and strengthen their will power then their will be serious problem in their consistency.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on November 25, 2023, 12:41:41 PM

This season Rayo Vallecano is like Newcastle, both are teams what do you never know what are gonna do, they can lose easilya gainst weak teams, and can make amazing games against big ones, without any kind of logic, for me is a team to avoid on bets. Anyways really good for them to catch a draw against Barcelona, the victory just sliped through their fingers at last moment.

Barcelona always faces a lot of challenges whenever they play against Roya Vallecano, and they have been experiencing that over some seasons, and they have always found it difficult to win Roya Vallecano either home or away, despite the fact that Barcelona is always in better form than Roya Vallecano, but it is always very hard to win them. But what I am thinking all this day is that there is a Roya Vallecano pattern of playing that Barcelona has not discovered, which is why they have been finding it always challenging to win them. If not, why will Barcelona not always have wins over Roya Vallencano? With the type of quality players Barcelona have compared with the players Roya Vallencano have, I can't imagine Barcelona facing this type of challenge. Even today, I don't expect Barcelona to win, but I think any team can have the winning But seriously, I don't think any team was the favorite to win the game before the match started.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on November 25, 2023, 01:08:24 PM

Quote from: Out of mind on November 25, 2023, 12:30:58 PM

No one really expected Barcelona to draw against Rayo Vallecano. Barcelona might have lost the match today if it wasn't for Rayo Vallecano's own goal at the last minute.

When a team starts missing opportunities like this to get ahead in the league, it is not a good sign to show seriousness to win the league. Barcelona completely disappointed me and many other supporters and sports bettors that expected them to win the game because of what they stand to gain, but they shared points in this game. Barcelona started this season looking promising, but right now, Real Madrid look like a better challenger to Girona than they are.

With an Atletico Madrid win, they will be closer to passing Barcelona.

That's the truth, I completely agree with what you said about Barcelona. Xavi squad needed a Rayo own goal to save their face this time, reportedly Xavi has not been able to break his curse of beating Rayo Vallecano since taking charge of Barcelona. Xavi has a lot of work to do in the future, Porto will be their next test at UCL.

According to calculations, ATM can shift Barcelona position to fourth in the standings if they can win the match against Mallorca, and another postponed match against Sevilla. I think this is a reality that Barcelona must be very aware of, otherwise it will create a significant points gap in the future.

Girona will be very rampant at the top of the La Liga standings by taking advantage of the bad situation of the elite teams. Don't let us take back what we have said about Girona that, when faced with a big team, Girona will lose. But in reality, these big teams put themselves in a difficult position.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 25, 2023, 11:37:03 AM

By the way, if Atlético wins the two games they have in hand (relative to Barcelona), they will also bypass them.

All Atletico needs now is to win one game and they'll be above Barcelona despite having one game in hand. Barcelona have not been convincing enough and they're slowly losing hopes of winning the league. They have a very difficult month ahead and funny enough Rayo was their easiest fixture among all. After Porto, they'll play Atletico and Girona. These are going to be very difficult fixtures for Barcelona.

I feel Xavi is to blame for these results. Barcelona are not playing well. On the pitch, there's no urgency in them. There is no drive. They're not quick enough. No pressing. Everything is just slow. With the kind of football Barcelona play, they'll definitely struggle with that kind of behavior on the pitch.
The league season is still very long so they have a lot of time to sit up and win the league, but if they continue like this, they might just have to be contended with the top 4 spot.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on November 25, 2023, 11:30:53 AM

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[HT] Rayo Vallecano 1 - 0 Barcelona

Rayo Vallecano managed to take a temporary lead in the match because of a goal scored by Unai Lopez. I don't know what Barcelona was thinking at the moment that they were 1 goal behind in the first half. Even though this is an important match for them with the aim of chasing Real Madrid and Girona who are currently above them.

If they fail here, it will provide a golden opportunity especially for Real Madrid to increase their distance from Barcelona considering that their opponents in the next match will be Cadiz who are currently at the bottom of the standings.

When Rayo Vallenaco plays big teams, they are very strong. The reason I say this is that the last time they played Real Madrid, the game ended 0-0, and now when they play Barcelona, the score is 1-1. I did not think Barcelona would even score again because the match was only 82 minutes old when Barcelona scored their goal. To be honest, despite having some excellent players on the team, Barcelona's performance has not changed this season as the fans had hoped.

Barcelona was really lucky in this match because they had 1 goal which came from an own goal by Florian Lejeune. I was a little surprised to see the match statistics, because there I saw that Barcelona dominated in terms of ball possession (at 67%), but they lost in terms of attack. This means that Barcelona can only get the ball but are not very good at organizing attacks into the Rayo Vallecano zone.

Even though they didn't completely lose points, Real Madrid still has a gap to get a better position than them. As I said before, Real Madrid's opponent is Cadiz, it will give them more confidence to fly further in the La Liga standings.

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Quote from: Out of mind on November 25, 2023, 12:30:58 PM

No one really expected Barcelona to draw against Rayo Vallecano. Barcelona might have lost the match today if it wasn't for Rayo Vallecano's own goal at the last minute.

When a team starts missing opportunities like this to get ahead in the league, it is not a good sign to show seriousness to win the league. Barcelona completely disappointed me and many other supporters and sports bettors that expected them to win the game because of what they stand to gain, but they shared points in this game. Barcelona started this season looking promising, but right now, Real Madrid look like a better challenger to Girona than they are.

With an Atletico Madrid win, they will be closer to passing Barcelona.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on November 25, 2023, 12:00:21 PM

Barcelona again played a very disappointing match, the system and style of player is something not attributed to a big team, they go into the match conceding first and then they start to play the catch up game even against small teams that they are expected to demolish.
Today against Barcelona went down to Rayo vallecano in the first half and had to wait late into the second half to equalize by an own goal, it's time Barcelona make a decision on their present coach Xavi Hernandez.

Not only did Barcelona have to wait until the second half for their goal, but it also took until the 82nd minute for Barcelona to get the score even though it was an own goal. With a result like this, I think I would say Rayo Vallecano really deserved to get three points in this match . Because anyway, at least Barcelona has made many of its supporters disappointed, because on paper Barcelona is predicted to win in this match but what happened was, Barcelona almost lost this match. Perhaps, I am the only person who regrets this draw result, because I expected Rayo Vallecano to win this match because they managed to play well and also managed a 1-0 lead from the first half.

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Honestly, the league has to have some good results and some bad results for bigger teams in order to have some good fighting going on. You can't just have Barcelona and Real Madrid win every game, that would not make sense. Imagine a world where they win against 18 other teams and share their wins against each other and end up with 37 wins 1 loss for both teams, that would not make sense and I would say it would be the weirdest result ever (or two draws against each other) so it doesn't really make sense.

I think what makes the league great is that Barcelona and real are behind Girona, and that makes it fun to watch, it makes it entertaining to see, not going to end the season this way but at least for the time being it's fine. Real is still doing better if you ask me, at least they are looking better and they have a more established team whereas Barcelona just built this club in the last 1.5 years or so if you ask me but it's still a fun team to see.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 25, 2023, 11:37:03 AM

On the one hand, an unexpected result, on the other hand, it turns out that Rayo Vallecano takes points from Barcelona in the fifth consecutive game (within La Liga). The game itself looked like an equal one, and it’s not even clear who should be dissatisfied with the draw result. One way or another, Real (and Girona hahaha) got another chance to increase their advantage over Barcelona. By the way, if Atlético wins the two games they have in hand (relative to Barcelona), they will also bypass them.

I already suspected that Barcelona would find it difficult to win against Rayo Vallecano. Not without reason, because in the last five meetings, Barcelona has never won against Rayo Vallecano. With this result, it is clear that Barcelona has added to their record of never winning against Rayo Vallecano. Barcelona is clearly very disappointed with this draw because they are now even further behind Real Madrid and Girona if both teams get full points again. Not only that, Barcelona's 3rd position in the standings has the potential to be ousted if Atletio Madrid wins against Mallorca.

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Quote from: snipie on November 25, 2023, 07:15:06 AM

the difference is in the goals received so if Celta Vigo could fix this issue, they can collect a point at least.

Celta Vigo didn't receive any goal, thus they were able to collect a point from Valencia. I am not surprised with such result.

Quote from: snipie on November 25, 2023, 07:15:06 AM

In the other matches, Sevilla and Sociedad match looks quite competitive and of course we are waiting if Barcelona or Real Madrid will drop points in their away matches.

Barcelona started the first match from the ones that I mentioned and here we go with the first points loss after Barca draw vs Rayo Vallecano. That way, the gap will be bigger and ATM could overtake them..

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This season Rayo Vallecano is like Newcastle, both are teams what do you never know what are gonna do, they can lose easilya gainst weak teams, and can make amazing games against big ones, without any kind of logic, for me is a team to avoid on bets. Anyways really good for them to catch a draw against Barcelona, the victory just sliped through their fingers at last moment.

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No one really expected Barcelona to draw against Rayo Vallecano. Barcelona might have lost the match today if it wasn't for Rayo Vallecano's own goal at the last minute. Unfortunately due to an own goal the match was drawn against Barcelona, today's match was a fantastic and attacking game. With enough attacks between the two teams, I found Rayo Vallecano's goalkeeper to be the best performer on the pitch, making many goal Safes. Moreover, vallecano took the lead in the 39 minute and an own goal in the 82 minute after half-time unfortunately turned the match into a draw. Barcelona team would have lost today's match against vallecano if not for the own goal. If Barcelona had won today's match, they could have overtaken Real Madrid in the points table and had a chance to stay at the top position, but they missed that opportunity due to the draw.

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Quote from: G_Besar on November 25, 2023, 11:36:41 AM

The goal in the second half for Barcelona was not a pure result scored by a Barcelona player, but it was an own goal from a Rayo Vallecano player so this saved Barcelona from defeat because the position was a draw or the same. This certainly will not make Barcelona happy enough because if Atletico Madrid is able to win at home when they host Mallorca, then Barcelona's current position will be overtaken by Atletico Madrid and make it difficult for Barcelona to compete at the top. I also wonder why Barcelona was unable to beat Rayo Vallecano in today's match, even though Barcelona has the strength to win today's match.

The problem is that Xavi puts a lot of emphasis on defense and does not pay much attention to making a strong attack. And Atlético has two more games less than Barcelona, so they have a good chance of overtaking Barcelona, but to do this they need to win these games. Now everything will depend on how Girona and Real play their games, if they win their games, they will be able to get ahead and in this case it will be even more difficult to catch up with them.

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Barcelona again played a very disappointing match, the system and style of player is something not attributed to a big team, they go into the match conceding first and then they start to play the catch up game even against small teams that they are expected to demolish.
Today against Barcelona went down to Rayo vallecano in the first half and had to wait late into the second half to equalize by an own goal, it's time Barcelona make a decision on their present coach Xavi Hernandez.

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Quote from: G_Besar on November 25, 2023, 11:36:41 AM

Quote from: leonair on November 25, 2023, 10:50:57 AM

Rayo Vallecano is not a potential team in the La Liga series but it is really sad that Barcelona drew the match 1-1 with this team. Because Barcelona is a popular team and they are strong enough and on the other hand Rayo Vallecano is not a potential strong team but they drew 1-1 with a team like Barcelona it could be a great achievement for them but it is a shame for Barcelona. And while Rayo Vallecano scored a goal in the first half, Barcelona scored a goal in the 82nd minute to draw the match. Lol

The goal in the second half for Barcelona was not a pure result scored by a Barcelona player, but it was an own goal from a Rayo Vallecano player so this saved Barcelona from defeat because the position was a draw or the same. This certainly will not make Barcelona happy enough because if Atletico Madrid is able to win at home when they host Mallorca, then Barcelona's current position will be overtaken by Atletico Madrid and make it difficult for Barcelona to compete at the top. I also wonder why Barcelona was unable to beat Rayo Vallecano in today's match, even though Barcelona has the strength to win today's match.

I remember a few days ago there were several people saying here that Rayo's match with Barcelona would surprise us all with the results of the match and I thought Barcelona would lose the following match because from the first half until around 80 minutes Barcelona had not been able to score and I was quite surprised that Felix and Lewandowski's performance was very bad, unlike the start of the season which appeared very good and as the match progressed, Lewandowski was unable to maintain his consistency so in several matches he could not give his best contribution and fortunately in the second half he was able to get 1 score and end the match in a draw. to get 1 point is better than not getting a point.
Barcelona bad form is very worrying because if they continue to perform like this there will definitely be other clubs trying to catch up to their position, even Real Madrid can get away from the points difference because in the upcoming match Real Madrid will very easily win.

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