La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 169.

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Quote from: bots1 on January 02, 2025, 07:27:04 AM

It is very difficult to continue the positive trend to navigate this season both Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid, and Barcelona because they appear in various competitions. However, Real Madrid's schedule will be severely impacted because of its tight schedule besides that, Real Madrid also appears in the Club World Cup so it is very difficult to continue competing to win the title in various competitions. Therefore, I predict that the determination of the La Liga title will wait for the last match of this season.

It all depends on the winning mentality they have and how they manage their squad well because after all, being in several competitions at once is an option and when they decide to be like that then they must be prepared for all situations especially since they are big clubs with demands that are of course just as great especially for Barcelona and Madrid who have always been one of the clubs that always seem to be associated with fighting for trophies every season.

When they have decided to participate in all competitions until the end, they will definitely try to do several things so that their performance is maintained and the competition continues as they expect and that requires a big mentality and good squad management so inevitably they must be able to have it if they really want to aim for several trophies at once and compete in the competition in a full season.

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Quote from: junder on January 01, 2025, 01:13:18 PM

Yes, the match will be held more than a month from now, both teams have plenty of time to prepare for the second leg of the Madrid derby but because the big match is still quite a long way away. I think now is not the right time for us to speculate, ATM and Real must first focus on other La Liga matches and the UCL competition, because their position in the UCL is quite worrying.

That means there is still plenty of time for both teams to prepare for the match considering this is a crucial match for both if in the match the positions of both are only one point apart. There is nothing wrong with speculating because based on the results obtained by both teams Atletico Madrid is in much better condition, although it will not be a guarantee that in the match they will be able to play much better than their rivals. The match is still a long time away and maybe it is true that both teams have to prepare themselves when facing other opponents in the Champions League or La Liga itself so they have to focus so they can provide much better results.

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Quote from: Inwestour on January 02, 2025, 07:53:16 AM

Vinicius is young enough and I am sure that he would like to stay at Real and continue winning awards. If it is only a question of money, then in this case I also think that he is young enough and has enough time to earn enough money at Real so that he does not need anything. Maybe this transfer could be profitable for Real because it would bring them huge profits, but I do not know if Ancelotti is ready to remain without such a forward now, I think that for him the priority will always be a strong team and not the club's profit.

Moreover there is no strong reason for Vinicius to move, instead he is increasingly the key to Madrid success today. Florentino Perez treatment of Vinicius is very special, one proof is that during the match against Rayo Vallecano they were seen watching the match in the VIP room where Vinicius sat next to him. As far as I know no player has ever sat with Perez while watching a match. This indicates that Perez is one of Vinicius number 1 supporters.

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So, the saga is finally over and Barcelona have lost Olmo? As I understand it, there are no more appeals or other possibilities to register him and he is now a free agent?
Moreover, Barcelona is obliged to pay him all the money due under the contract (until 2030 lol) so this is an additional blow to the financial state of Barcelona. I am surprised why Laporta does not resign, he has no shame.

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Quote from: Inwestour on January 02, 2025, 07:53:16 AM

Quote from: mamesso on January 02, 2025, 07:32:24 AM

Vinicius hard work at Real Madrid paid off after winning the 2024 FIFA Best Men's Player award, he still has ambitions to achieve even more individual awards, namely the Ballon d'Or. It is very unlikely that he will win the award if he moves to Saudi Arabia, I also do not take the issue of his move to the Arab League too seriously because he is an ambitious player who wants to win everything, especially now that he is at the peak of his career, he can get everything with Real Madrid.

Vinicius is young enough and I am sure that he would like to stay at Real and continue winning awards. If it is only a question of money, then in this case I also think that he is young enough and has enough time to earn enough money at Real so that he does not need anything. Maybe this transfer could be profitable for Real because it would bring them huge profits, but I do not know if Ancelotti is ready to remain without such a forward now, I think that for him the priority will always be a strong team and not the club's profit.

Real will not always be tempted by the benefits even though the value offered by the Arab side is very large. The team and achievements are the main things for them, their track record in the past has proven it all. The deal is entirely in Vini hands, if he chooses money, of course his move to the Arab side is the right way, but if the achievement is chosen, Real is the place and I think with his current age and also the salary that Madrid gives him, that is enough. I say this rumor only benefits one party, namely the media that is exaggerating it.
I will close my eyes to this because I am sure the Brazilian player will stay at the Santiago Bernabeu.

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Atletico Madrid can be a pain in the *$$ when they start making those who wants to win the league title be at the state of confusion (by making them drop important points) but this is a different story altogether because they're now making a way to winning the league title and the former league leaders that's Barcelona, has left that spot for them and it would be very hard for them to get to the top again and it seems the Atletico Madrid side might win it this season because this is the season I have seen them becoming serious in a very long while, now the question is, "can they keep up with this winning mentality till the end of the season to call themselves champions of Spain"?

The big question is whether Atletico Madrid can finally continue their winning streak. Since Atletico Madrid and Barcelona or Real Madrid do not have a big difference in points, besides it is the middle of the season. If Atletico Madrid perform poorly in the next matches from now on, they will fall far behind in terms of points. If they succeed in planning to win every match they play in the next few matches, they can win the La Liga title this season. As Real Madrid and Barcelona will compete hard, we may have to wait until the last match to see which team wins the La Liga title. But Atletico Madrid must be praised as they are performing really well this season.

In this situation, I don't believe anyone can anticipate what will happen in the league because there are still many games remaining in the competition, since they didn't give each other long gap. Real Madrid will play their upcoming game against Valencia tomorrow, and if they defeat them, they will automatically be the league leaders this season. Barcelona has been underperforming since Yamil began to suffer injuries. Any games in which the boy does not play, Barcelona will most likely lose or tie, and they do not generally score three points.

La Liga has become exciting because it is competitive. Currently, three clubs are vying for the league title, and all of them will do their best not to lose any games because anyone who makes a mistake and loses a point, I don't believe they can recover until the leaders lose as well. Let's see how the season goes and how we can possibly win the crown this season. He has long desired that Athletico Madrid win the La Liga, and I believe this season they are in better shape, so they can attempt again and win it if they continue to win league matches.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on January 01, 2025, 10:31:35 PM

Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on December 31, 2024, 05:53:27 PM

Atletico Madrid can be a pain in the *$$ when they start making those who wants to win the league title be at the state of confusion (by making them drop important points) but this is a different story altogether because they're now making a way to winning the league title and the former league leaders that's Barcelona, has left that spot for them and it would be very hard for them to get to the top again and it seems the Atletico Madrid side might win it this season because this is the season I have seen them becoming serious in a very long while, now the question is, "can they keep up with this winning mentality till the end of the season to call themselves champions of Spain"?

The big question is whether Atletico Madrid can finally continue their winning streak. Since Atletico Madrid and Barcelona or Real Madrid do not have a big difference in points, besides it is the middle of the season. If Atletico Madrid perform poorly in the next matches from now on, they will fall far behind in terms of points. If they succeed in planning to win every match they play in the next few matches, they can win the La Liga title this season. As Real Madrid and Barcelona will compete hard, we may have to wait until the last match to see which team wins the La Liga title. But Atletico Madrid must be praised as they are performing really well this season.

This three teams have been the best three teams in the history of the La Liga, and the league title have been won most by this three teams, so this is not a big surprise to see them all battling for the first place in the league title. Real Madrid and Barcelona have dominated the league more in recent years but seeing this great performance from Atletico Madrid shows that this season will be very hard for any of them to win without beating Atletico Madrid and prevailing against them in the chase for the La Liga title. They may be playing in different competitions, but that does not give away the fact that they cannot still be in a very good position for the league title.

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Quote from: Inwestour on January 02, 2025, 07:53:16 AM

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Vinicius hard work at Real Madrid paid off after winning the 2024 FIFA Best Men's Player award, he still has ambitions to achieve even more individual awards, namely the Ballon d'Or. It is very unlikely that he will win the award if he moves to Saudi Arabia, I also do not take the issue of his move to the Arab League too seriously because he is an ambitious player who wants to win everything, especially now that he is at the peak of his career, he can get everything with Real Madrid.

Vinicius is young enough and I am sure that he would like to stay at Real and continue winning awards. If it is only a question of money, then in this case I also think that he is young enough and has enough time to earn enough money at Real so that he does not need anything. Maybe this transfer could be profitable for Real because it would bring them huge profits, but I do not know if Ancelotti is ready to remain without such a forward now, I think that for him the priority will always be a strong team and not the club's profit.

There are some Arab clubs that are reportedly ready to buy Vinicius at a high price from Madrid and also offer a very high salary, but I don't think he will consider the option of moving to the SPL in the near time when he can still develop in the big European leagues, a big salary he will obviously get if he plays in the SPL, but we can see how disappointed he was when he failed to win the Ballon d'Or this year, so I think if he accepts the offer then he has closed his chances of winning the Ballon d'Or trophy in the future, to win football biggest individual award he has to stay in Europe and Madrid is the club that allows him to achieve that it, so Vinicius is in the right team now to achieve his goals.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on January 02, 2025, 08:06:53 AM

I don't see Girona as a strong competitor for the League title last season, even though they performed quite impressively. Well, this season Girona's performance is not as impressive as last season, I see it as reasonable. The reason is simple, besides some of their players leaving, this season they are quite busy with several competitions. As we can see, their performance is unstable and is in 8th position temporarily and so is their performance in the Champions League which seems very difficult to compete with their competitors. The other closest team is Atletico Bilbao, they are closer in points to the three teams above them. However, it seems that we will agree that the teams that have a chance to win the title right now are Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona. These teams will compete tightly, although it is possible that other teams could improve their performance after they return to play their matches. We'll see, after all, only a week from now La Liga will present many matches that will be held soon.

Girona have quit well performance last season although can't compete for La Liga tittle race with Real Madrid but Girona for the first time can defeated Barcelona as home and away match.
Girona success secure the top third standings place last season behind four points remaining from Barcelona but in this season their performance not quit well yet, losing top players Artem Dovbyk in this season after selling to Roma become big problem for Girona not only how keep consistent in domestic league but also Girona drop bottom standings place in Champion League.

I don't sure Girona in this season have opportunity break to the UEFA Champion League spot standings place after inconsistent performance, maybe have opportunity reach the UEFA Europe League or Conference League spot standings behind few points left awhile and have one half season left for improving performance.

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Quote from: tusandii on January 02, 2025, 02:07:35 AM

Although Girona was able to perform impressively last season but I not think they would win the La Liga title because the title is only attached to Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid but that doesn't mean other clubs can't get it, it's just that the percentage is very small because they have to beat the best clubs in La Liga, these three clubs are very difficult to beat so I think clubs other than them might only be able to finish in the UCL zone not for the league title.

I don't see Girona as a strong competitor for the League title last season, even though they performed quite impressively. Well, this season Girona's performance is not as impressive as last season, I see it as reasonable. The reason is simple, besides some of their players leaving, this season they are quite busy with several competitions. As we can see, their performance is unstable and is in 8th position temporarily and so is their performance in the Champions League which seems very difficult to compete with their competitors. The other closest team is Atletico Bilbao, they are closer in points to the three teams above them. However, it seems that we will agree that the teams that have a chance to win the title right now are Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona. These teams will compete tightly, although it is possible that other teams could improve their performance after they return to play their matches. We'll see, after all, only a week from now La Liga will present many matches that will be held soon.

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Quote from: mamesso on January 02, 2025, 07:32:24 AM

Vinicius hard work at Real Madrid paid off after winning the 2024 FIFA Best Men's Player award, he still has ambitions to achieve even more individual awards, namely the Ballon d'Or. It is very unlikely that he will win the award if he moves to Saudi Arabia, I also do not take the issue of his move to the Arab League too seriously because he is an ambitious player who wants to win everything, especially now that he is at the peak of his career, he can get everything with Real Madrid.

Vinicius is young enough and I am sure that he would like to stay at Real and continue winning awards. If it is only a question of money, then in this case I also think that he is young enough and has enough time to earn enough money at Real so that he does not need anything. Maybe this transfer could be profitable for Real because it would bring them huge profits, but I do not know if Ancelotti is ready to remain without such a forward now, I think that for him the priority will always be a strong team and not the club's profit.

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Quote from: sokani on January 02, 2025, 07:14:07 AM

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I wouldn't pay much attention to the Saudi Arabia link. Vini has just won the FIFA best player award, he's still in his prime and I think he would want to show everyone why he's the best player in the world by trying to win the award again and also the Balon d'or. Moving to the Saudi Arabian League would only dampen his chances and no matter the amount the Saudis are willing to offer, I think he's going to stay put and renew his contract at Real Madrid.

Vinicius hard work at Real Madrid paid off after winning the 2024 FIFA Best Men's Player award, he still has ambitions to achieve even more individual awards, namely the Ballon d'Or. It is very unlikely that he will win the award if he moves to Saudi Arabia, I also do not take the issue of his move to the Arab League too seriously because he is an ambitious player who wants to win everything, especially now that he is at the peak of his career, he can get everything with Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on January 01, 2025, 10:31:35 PM

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Atletico Madrid can be a pain in the *$$ when they start making those who wants to win the league title be at the state of confusion (by making them drop important points) but this is a different story altogether because they're now making a way to winning the league title and the former league leaders that's Barcelona, has left that spot for them and it would be very hard for them to get to the top again and it seems the Atletico Madrid side might win it this season because this is the season I have seen them becoming serious in a very long while, now the question is, "can they keep up with this winning mentality till the end of the season to call themselves champions of Spain"?

The big question is whether Atletico Madrid can finally continue their winning streak. Since Atletico Madrid and Barcelona or Real Madrid do not have a big difference in points, besides it is the middle of the season. If Atletico Madrid perform poorly in the next matches from now on, they will fall far behind in terms of points. If they succeed in planning to win every match they play in the next few matches, they can win the La Liga title this season. As Real Madrid and Barcelona will compete hard, we may have to wait until the last match to see which team wins the La Liga title. But Atletico Madrid must be praised as they are performing really well this season.

It is very difficult to continue the positive trend to navigate this season both Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid, and Barcelona because they appear in various competitions. However, Real Madrid's schedule will be severely impacted because of its tight schedule besides that, Real Madrid also appears in the Club World Cup so it is very difficult to continue competing to win the title in various competitions. Therefore, I predict that the determination of the La Liga title will wait for the last match of this season.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on January 02, 2025, 03:01:49 AM

Vinicius Junior is likely to stay with Real Madrid
There have been repeated meetings between Real Madrid and Vinicius but they have not talked about the future and have mostly talked about the current situation
It is possible that Real Madrid are quietly considering keeping Vinicius and convincing him not to pay attention to the Saudi offers
Finally, his contract will expire one day, but given his good performance for the team, Real Madrid are trying to keep him. A player who has won many individual awards with the Real Madrid shirt and even Ronaldo said that the Ballon d'Or is his right The Brazilian player said in Doha: "I want to play for Real Madrid for a long time and I also want to thank Flamengo for this, where I started everything."
Some Vinicius and Brazil fans say that Brazil should win another Ballon d'Or because it has moved away from its golden days and needs to win new titles

I wouldn't pay much attention to the Saudi Arabia link. Vini has just won the FIFA best player award, he's still in his prime and I think he would want to show everyone why he's the best player in the world by trying to win the award again and also the Balon d'or. Moving to the Saudi Arabian League would only dampen his chances and no matter the amount the Saudis are willing to offer, I think he's going to stay put and renew his contract at Real Madrid.

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Quote from: naira on January 02, 2025, 06:40:27 AM

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The big question is whether Atletico Madrid can finally continue their winning streak. Since Atletico Madrid and Barcelona or Real Madrid do not have a big difference in points, besides it is the middle of the season. If Atletico Madrid perform poorly in the next matches from now on, they will fall far behind in terms of points. If they succeed in planning to win every match they play in the next few matches, they can win the La Liga title this season. As Real Madrid and Barcelona will compete hard, we may have to wait until the last match to see which team wins the La Liga title. But Atletico Madrid must be praised as they are performing really well this season.

Inmao, the standings are still very potential to continue to rotate, half a season is a long and tiring journey. There is no guarantee that it can be consistent until the end, so for Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona must be able to compete to minimize the loss of points. Of the 3 big clubs competing, I am sure there is 1 club that will be a dark horse to disrupt the balance, for example Bilbao.

Bilbao does have the potential to disturb the top teams but I'm not sure they will put up a fierce pressure until the end of the season, this is the same as Girona last season so I'm not really interested in the surprise that the dark horse team will show.

Now the fierce competition is there are 3 teams at the top of the La Liga standings, Atletico Madrid emerged after being doubted at the beginning of the season but Atletico Madrid has now proven it and they deserve to be taken into account and I think what Atletico Madrid has shown now makes their percentage of being able to win the title much bigger especially Real Madrid and Barcelona are now experiencing many problems even though the journey this season is still very long but in the first half of this season we can slightly assess the strength to predict which team has the greatest potential to become champions later.

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Looking at the statistics of the match between the two teams, Real Madrid is still in a fairly advantageous condition when facing Valencia and even though the match will take place at Valencia's home ground.
Almost all matches have pressure and I don't see Real Madrid's position when facing Valencia will be under heavy pressure, even though Real Madrid must ensure victory in order to catch up with Atletico Madrid.
Real Madrid will not get an easy victory because Valencia will definitely play better, but to win the match I am sure Real Madrid will score more than one goal.

I have confidence that Madrid will have no trouble beating Valencia. Valencia's condition is not good, facing a team as strong as Madrid, they will not be at an advantage even though they will be playing at home.
Madrid might get a few goals. I hope Mbappe is in good condition and starts to regain his confidence. 2 or 3 goals should be possible for Madrid if they play well.

Of course, Madrid is the favorite in this match because they look stronger than Valencia despite the challenges that they passed through due to injury. Valencia is not in a good form and they have been suffering with their matches to come out victorious. There's no way that Valencia can stop Madrid from winning all the points, because they don't have the quality.

The only thing that can go in Valencia's favor I think is their luck. Or maybe Madrid plays badly which I don't think will happen in the next match.
Madrid did lose some of their focus in some matches, but now they are doing better. Unless they face a strong team, maybe Madrid can still struggle a bit. But against Valencia, on paper, they should be leading. I don't expect any surprises from Valencia.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on January 02, 2025, 03:01:49 AM

Vinicius Junior is likely to stay with Real Madrid
There have been repeated meetings between Real Madrid and Vinicius but they have not talked about the future and have mostly talked about the current situation
It is possible that Real Madrid are quietly considering keeping Vinicius and convincing him not to pay attention to the Saudi offers
Finally, his contract will expire one day, but given his good performance for the team, Real Madrid are trying to keep him. A player who has won many individual awards with the Real Madrid shirt and even Ronaldo said that the Ballon d'Or is his right
The Brazilian player said in Doha: "I want to play for Real Madrid for a long time and I also want to thank Flamengo for this, where I started everything."
Some Vinicius and Brazil fans say that Brazil should win another Ballon d'Or because it has moved away from its golden days and needs to win new titles

Well everything still falls back to his decisions if he wants to stay back or move but i hope he understands the implication of a move to the Saudi league, he will actually be making some good money there but career wise it may not be the best suit for his career at this time, although he may have been able to have achieved the champions league back at Real Madrid, he still can win more trophies and achieve a whole lot across Europe for the recognition but at the Saudi league, he's very likely not to get most of that maybe he may return back seasons later , my taught though, but I'm very optimistic about him staying back.

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Quote from: Fuso.hp on January 01, 2025, 10:31:35 PM

The big question is whether Atletico Madrid can finally continue their winning streak. Since Atletico Madrid and Barcelona or Real Madrid do not have a big difference in points, besides it is the middle of the season. If Atletico Madrid perform poorly in the next matches from now on, they will fall far behind in terms of points. If they succeed in planning to win every match they play in the next few matches, they can win the La Liga title this season. As Real Madrid and Barcelona will compete hard, we may have to wait until the last match to see which team wins the La Liga title. But Atletico Madrid must be praised as they are performing really well this season.

Inmao, the standings are still very potential to continue to rotate, half a season is a long and tiring journey. There is no guarantee that it can be consistent until the end, so for Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona must be able to compete to minimize the loss of points. Of the 3 big clubs competing, I am sure there is 1 club that will be a dark horse to disrupt the balance, for example Bilbao.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 02, 2025, 02:06:38 AM

Quote from: tottong on January 02, 2025, 01:56:20 AM

Looking at the statistics of the match between the two teams, Real Madrid is still in a fairly advantageous condition when facing Valencia and even though the match will take place at Valencia's home ground.
Almost all matches have pressure and I don't see Real Madrid's position when facing Valencia will be under heavy pressure, even though Real Madrid must ensure victory in order to catch up with Atletico Madrid.
Real Madrid will not get an easy victory because Valencia will definitely play better, but to win the match I am sure Real Madrid will score more than one goal.

I have confidence that Madrid will have no trouble beating Valencia. Valencia's condition is not good, facing a team as strong as Madrid, they will not be at an advantage even though they will be playing at home.
Madrid might get a few goals. I hope Mbappe is in good condition and starts to regain his confidence. 2 or 3 goals should be possible for Madrid if they play well.

Of course, Madrid is the favorite in this match because they look stronger than Valencia despite the challenges that they passed through due to injury. Valencia is not in a good form and they have been suffering with their matches to come out victorious. There's no way that Valencia can stop Madrid from winning all the points, because they don't have the quality.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on January 02, 2025, 05:10:59 AM

I said transfer fee. Those are 2 different things. Normally when you sign a player, you pay a fee to their team as well you know. But Real Madrid didn't have to pay such fee. Can you imagine how much the financial burden could have been if they paid like 200-300 million euros more? Otherwise of course it wasn't a completely free signing.

But it was worth it anyway considering you are signing one of the best players in the world.

When you are signing with a free player, you will have to pay him and his agent some extra money that make the deal is no longer actually free. Thinking that signing with a free player does not cost anything is wrong.

Like Mbappe, who joined Real Madrid as a free player, but Real Madrid actually had to pay very lucrative extra money for the player. Players know that a club can save money in transfer fee by signing with free players, and they will add more money requirement to their contracts with their possible next clubs.

It's fair enough and is like a win-win situation for both the club and a free player, the club saves somewhat money from transfer fee, and the player earn more money from the new club.

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