La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 1858.

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Quote from: Fara Chan on August 29, 2023, 01:24:47 AM

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Atletico Madrid opened a new record at the start of the 2023/24 season with the most goals, Rayo became such a weak opponent for Atletico Madrid that goals could be scored with a total of 7 goals without reply.
The Atletico Madrid players in that match looked very happy because goal parties rarely happened.
But there is no doubt that this huge win went to Atletico Madrid and in the last two seasons Rayo have been one of the teams that have never made it to the top 10 and it is unlikely that Rayo will ever be able to.

Atletico Madrid managed to show their might this season by crushing Rayo Vallecano with a pretty striking score. This big win is certainly a good capital for Rojiboancos to look at the next match against Sevilla. Diego Simione is certainly very satisfied with the performance of his team and this big win also added a sweet note to his coaching career. However, despite the success of celebrating goals, of course that cannot be a guide for the coach, because this is still in the early stages of starting this season's campaign. For Simione this victory must be a whip for his troops to be able to maintain consistency. At the moment Atletico Madrid has only collected 7 points from the results of two wins and one game ended in a goalless draw.

Even though Diego Simione and his team have had a goal feast with a landslide victory they still cannot be satisfied and must be able to motivate even more so that in the next match they can display a better game because their opponent is Sevilla, which at the and start of this season was not very good dominate every game they play.
There is a big chance for Atletico Madrid to have another big win and I still believe it will happen in the match.
Sevilla looks very difficult to play to get a win at the start of this season.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on August 29, 2023, 09:05:28 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 29, 2023, 04:45:53 PM

Real Madrid didn't have a good situation in the last game and they had many injured players. The last injured player was Vinicius Junior we know they lost players like Benzame and there is no more pressure on Vinicius Junior that's why this player wanted to play even while he was injured for his team. whi can show his responsibility to his team.
But Ancelotti and the Medical team didn't take the risk to let him play in that game.

At the beginning of the season, two important players of the team's regular eleven are out of the field due to injuries. Éder Militão and Vinicius Junior are two of Real Madrid's most important stars who are already injured. Karim Benzema has left Real Madrid and Real Madrid have Vinicius Junior so Real Madrid have not bought any players to replace Karim Benzema in haste but the hopes they had of not buying any players are now in doubt. He left the field with an injury and the extent of his injury is not yet known. If the injury is too big or if Venicius Jr. takes a long time to return to the field, this will be a cause for concern for Real Madrid as the transfer market is going to close soon so they will have no way to sign any new players.

Real Madrid's current squad is quite strong and stable. Apart from Benzema, Real Madrid have played very well in the first three matches of the season. Bellingham has performed well, which explains the absence of Benzema from the squad. However, it is uncertain how Real Madrid will perform in the upcoming matches. They did not add Benzema's replacement to the squad. Joselu will not be able to make up for Benzema's absence. Now if two important players like vini and Militao are not with the squad then real madrid team will face big problem. Real Madrid will play against Getafe, Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid in the next three matches. It will be very difficult for Real Madrid now to get 3 points against Sociedad and Atletico Madrid.

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Quote from: OcTradism on August 29, 2023, 08:35:59 PM

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Will sevilla kick mendilibar out of the club soon? Sevilla is not even earning a single point from a few matches that already passed. This is a horrible situation for sevilla at this moment. The club cant always losing its point.
The performance from sevilla is dropping so hard compared with the last season once the club was winning the europa league trophy. Sevilla needs to get out from this terrible situation as soon as possible.

Sevilla still has time and Mendilibar still has time too as the season is long enough for them to improve. Mendilibar helped Sevilla to exit La Liga relegation zone in second half of last season and more impressively won Europa League with Sevilla. He will be treated with respect by Sevilla but results of the club need to be improved in coming matches.

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Mendilibar's position is also in a critical situation, as he can be kicked by the club anytime. Losing more points will be unacceptable for sevilla.
Mendilibar needs to do something to save its club or sevilla will earn zero points. It seems like that the debt had a correlation to the performance from sevilla.
The more talented players sold by the club were greatly affecting the performance from sevilla.

His position is not safe but not at a verge of being sacked. He still has chances to do something to protect his job but a next match will be with Atletico Madrid and it won't be an easy opponent. Atletico Madrid just got a big win against Rayo Vallecano and they currently have a best attacking ability in La Liga.

Losing against Atletico Madrid will make a crisis in Sevilla more serious and Mendilibar will face with bigger risk of sack.

I hope so but sevilla really needs points. The club will be also playing in UCL. To be honest, i thought that if sevilla had only around 15% chance to win against atletico madrid with the current form.
Sevilla had lost a lot of players (bono, rekik, Lopes and montiel). The club will be also losing some of the important players who have been approached by other clubs (acuna, youssef even ocampos which has agreed to join in fulham)

Sevilla can only perform with the secondary team. Outgoing players are not equal to the incoming players. Sevilla is unlikely to get a point in upcoming games.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on August 29, 2023, 03:39:30 PM

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Barcelona will be buying cancelo from manchester city as soon as possible. You shall not feel worry about that caused by xavi has been planning the best way for barcelona to anticipate the injured players. Cancelo was even better than araujo.
He can play as a defender in barcelona and he is still on the way to join in the barcelona very soon. I must admit that picking cancelo is the best decision by xavi at this moment. It's caused by barcelona needs a quality player.
I expect cancelo will come as soon as possible and you will be seeing someone is worthy enough in replacing araujo's position at this moment.

Last I read, the two clubs were said to be at the stage of exchanging documents in order to push through with the deal. This deal has a high possibility this summer as Barcelona are set to sign Cancelo on a season long loan deal before the window closes. Manchester City are interested in the deal but I am not sure if there is an option to sign permanently or a one way loan deal.

The presence of Joao Cancelo can complete the pieces that are lacking in Barcelona defense, Xavi has a complete defender for this season if no one is injured. The club has fulfilled Xavi wish, which wants to make Barcelona more solid, then the results achieved by Barcelona depend on the strategy set by Xavi. Xavi has had replacements for all the players who have gone to other clubs since the transfer market opened, he is not too worried about the condition of his team even though some of the substitutes have been promoted from Barcelona B.

Joao Cancelo will replace Sergino Dest who was loaned to PSV Eindhoven, the vacant position left by Jordi Alba has been filled by Alejandro Balde. Lamine Yamal is the ideal replacement for the position left by Dembele after moving to PSG, Busquet with Oriol Romeu, Pique with Araujo and Kessie with Gundogan. Meanwhile, Ingo Martinez will replace Lenglet, who is planned to be released to Aston Villa. Barcelona have also included an option to sign a contract permanently if Joao Cancelo performances live up to expectations during his loan spell.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 29, 2023, 04:45:53 PM

Real Madrid didn't have a good situation in the last game and they had many injured players. The last injured player was Vinicius Junior we know they lost players like Benzame and there is no more pressure on Vinicius Junior that's why this player wanted to play even while he was injured for his team. whi can show his responsibility to his team.
But Ancelotti and the Medical team didn't take the risk to let him play in that game.

At the beginning of the season, two important players of the team's regular eleven are out of the field due to injuries. Éder Militão and Vinicius Junior are two of Real Madrid's most important stars who are already injured. Karim Benzema has left Real Madrid and Real Madrid have Vinicius Junior so Real Madrid have not bought any players to replace Karim Benzema in haste but the hopes they had of not buying any players are now in doubt. He left the field with an injury and the extent of his injury is not yet known. If the injury is too big or if Venicius Jr. takes a long time to return to the field, this will be a cause for concern for Real Madrid as the transfer market is going to close soon so they will have no way to sign any new players.

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Quote from: asriloni on August 29, 2023, 08:24:12 PM

Will sevilla kick mendilibar out of the club soon? Sevilla is not even earning a single point from a few matches that already passed. This is a horrible situation for sevilla at this moment. The club cant always losing its point.
The performance from sevilla is dropping so hard compared with the last season once the club was winning the europa league trophy. Sevilla needs to get out from this terrible situation as soon as possible.

Sevilla still has time and Mendilibar still has time too as the season is long enough for them to improve. Mendilibar helped Sevilla to exit La Liga relegation zone in second half of last season and more impressively won Europa League with Sevilla. He will be treated with respect by Sevilla but results of the club need to be improved in coming matches.

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Mendilibar's position is also in a critical situation, as he can be kicked by the club anytime. Losing more points will be unacceptable for sevilla.
Mendilibar needs to do something to save its club or sevilla will earn zero points. It seems like that the debt had a correlation to the performance from sevilla.
The more talented players sold by the club were greatly affecting the performance from sevilla.

His position is not safe but not at a verge of being sacked. He still has chances to do something to protect his job but a next match will be with Atletico Madrid and it won't be an easy opponent. Atletico Madrid just got a big win against Rayo Vallecano and they currently have a best attacking ability in La Liga.

Losing against Atletico Madrid will make a crisis in Sevilla more serious and Mendilibar will face with bigger risk of sack.

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Quote from: snipie on August 29, 2023, 04:22:57 PM

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Sevilla have started this season with poor performance and record again just like they did last season. If they are not careful, they might not win any trophy this season because I don't think that there will the a miracle for Sevilla just like that of last season.

Sevilla have serious problem in La Liga at the opposite of UEFA competitions matches. They obliged Manchester City to play penalties then lose vs Alaves and Girona which is quite random..
Their next match will be played away vs Atlético Madrid which isn't good in my opinion. ATM just punished Rayo Vallecano with 7 goals to 0! Their next games will be mild until they face Barcelona in October.

Will sevilla kick mendilibar out of the club soon? Sevilla is not even earning a single point from a few matches that already passed. This is a horrible situation for sevilla at this moment. The club cant always losing its point.
The performance from sevilla is dropping so hard compared with the last season once the club was winning the europa league trophy. Sevilla needs to get out from this terrible situation as soon as possible.
Mendilibar's position is also in a critical situation, as he can be kicked by the club anytime. Losing more points will be unacceptable for sevilla.
Mendilibar needs to do something to save its club or sevilla will earn zero points. It seems like that the debt had a correlation to the performance from sevilla.
The more talented players sold by the club were greatly affecting the performance from sevilla.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on August 29, 2023, 06:01:58 PM

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Last I read, the two clubs were said to be at the stage of exchanging documents in order to push through with the deal. This deal has a high possibility this summer as Barcelona are set to sign Cancelo on a season long loan deal before the window closes. Manchester City are interested in the deal but I am not sure if there is an option to sign permanently or a one way loan deal.

Xavi might give Cancelo the opportunity to show his skills at Barcelona because several big clubs like Bayern Munich refused Cancelo's arrival as a loan player for one season, and of course that was very dangerous because when he was on loan, Cancelo would indirectly know the strategy used. At Barcelona, the risk of divulging the secrets of the strategy used is very high, so Xavi has to be careful when giving instructions to his players.

Barcelona would certainly benefit from adding Cancelo to the squad. Cancelo is quite a talented player. Barcelona's defense will be stronger if Cancelo is in the squad. Barcelona's defense is still quite weak. If Barcelona want to do well in the Champions League, they definitely need to strengthen their defense. And Xavi knows this very well. This is why Xavi is keen to add Cancelo to the squad.

However, I don't think Barcelona's match strategy will be leaked if Cancelo is added to the team on loan for 1 season. Because an experienced coach doesn't just create a specific match strategy. Coaches have several plans. And considering the overall condition of the match, sometimes the coach changes his strategy even during the match. So even if Cancelo is in the squad I don't think there is much need for secrecy about match strategy.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 29, 2023, 04:45:53 PM

Real Madrid didn't have a good situation in the last game and they had many injured players. The last injured player was Vinicius Junior we know they lost players like Benzame and there is no more pressure on Vinicius Junior that's why this player wanted to play even while he was injured for his team. whi can show his responsibility to his team.

True but madrid needs to face the upcoming match. There's no time for madrid to think about the problem that has occured. Madrid will be playing without vini for several weeks which is also hurting the performance from the club.
The team is now having some options like changing the strategy to use 1 strikers or try to rotate its players by using the same strategy. Real madrid is still having some good player like brahim diaz and joselu.
Putting joselu in the position if vini and keep rodrygo to play in the same position like the previous match. Real madrid doesn't have a lot of option now.

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 29, 2023, 04:45:53 PM

But Ancelotti and the Medical team didn't take the risk to let him play in that game.

It's caused by forcing him to play is just making his situation even worse. Ancellotti wants him to bounce back quickly. That is why vini already suggested taking a rest. He faces non serious hamstring injury.
his recovery will not take a long time.

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Quote from: snipie on August 29, 2023, 04:22:57 PM

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Sevilla have started this season with poor performance and record again just like they did last season. If they are not careful, they might not win any trophy this season because I don't think that there will the a miracle for Sevilla just like that of last season.

Sevilla have serious problem in La Liga at the opposite of UEFA competitions matches. They obliged Manchester City to play penalties then lose vs Alaves and Girona which is quite random..
Their next match will be played away vs Atlético Madrid which isn't good in my opinion. ATM just punished Rayo Vallecano with 7 goals to 0! Their next games will be mild until they face Barcelona in October.

I was expecting to see Atletico Madrid winning this game against Rayo Vallecano but I could never Imagine seeing them beat Rayo Vallecano with a 7-0 result.
I think after this performance from Atletico Madrid and Diego Simeone he is getting more popular among the fans.
However, after the game, he said still Real Madrid and Barcelona are better.

https://www.football-espana.net/2023/08/29/madrid-and-barcelona-are-better-than-the-rest-atletico-madrid-manager-diego-simeone

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Quote from: TopT3ns on August 29, 2023, 06:01:58 PM

Quote from: Pokapoka124 on August 29, 2023, 03:39:30 PM

Last I read, the two clubs were said to be at the stage of exchanging documents in order to push through with the deal. This deal has a high possibility this summer as Barcelona are set to sign Cancelo on a season long loan deal before the window closes. Manchester City are interested in the deal but I am not sure if there is an option to sign permanently or a one way loan deal.

Xavi might give Cancelo the opportunity to show his skills at Barcelona because several big clubs like Bayern Munich refused Cancelo's arrival as a loan player for one season, and of course that was very dangerous because when he was on loan, Cancelo would indirectly know the strategy used. At Barcelona, the risk of divulging the secrets of the strategy used is very high, so Xavi has to be careful when giving instructions to his players.

Xavi should not buy cancelo if he will not be projected to play in the club. Xavi really needs him at this moment to fill one of important position. Xavi sees potential from him. That's why barcelona take him as a loan from manchester city with obligation to buy if some requirements will be fulfilled. Cancelo already wore barcelona's shirt now. Barcelona needs to strengthen its defensive line caused by the club will be participating in the UCL.
We know that how competitive UCL is right now. Even so many clubs were doing massive improvements. Serie a and EPL clubs become the most potential candidates to win the UCL.
I hope barcelona can buy him permanently when he will have been fulfilling some requirements. Im so happy barcelona to have a new good defender join in the club.

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Quote from: lalabotax on August 29, 2023, 04:54:17 PM

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Sevilla have serious problem in La Liga at the opposite of UEFA competitions matches. They obliged Manchester City to play penalties then lose vs Alaves and Girona which is quite random..
Their next match will be played away vs Atlético Madrid which isn't good in my opinion. ATM just punished Rayo Vallecano with 7 goals to 0! Their next games will be mild until they face Barcelona in October.

I also feel that way. For some reason, in my opinion, Sevilla's performance in La Liga was even very bad, not only last season, but also this season, they started this season very badly. Even though this season is still long, they shouldn't have to be at the bottom of the standings.. In fact, much worse than the newcomer clubs in the league. But it's undeniable, even though they were very bad in La Liga, their performance was opposite in the European League, they were even able to slightly offset Man City's performance in yesterday's battle match. Even though they lost, their performance was not that bad.

There is still plenty of time for Sevilla to make changes to their performance in Laliga as they are at the bottom of the table for now. It was quite surprising what happened in Sevilla because they were defeated by Alaves and Girona even though these two teams were not very strong in Laliga. Even the promoted team this season has performed better than Sevilla, so there is a big assumption that Sevilla will have a tougher season for them this season. Some of their players are not showing good form on the pitch like Ocampos and Rakitic.
In the 4th match of Laliga this season, Sevilla will visit the Civitas Metropolitano stadium, which is the headquarters of Atletico Madrid. Surely this is a pretty tough match for Sevilla in the midst of their recent downturn in performance.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on August 29, 2023, 03:39:30 PM

Last I read, the two clubs were said to be at the stage of exchanging documents in order to push through with the deal. This deal has a high possibility this summer as Barcelona are set to sign Cancelo on a season long loan deal before the window closes. Manchester City are interested in the deal but I am not sure if there is an option to sign permanently or a one way loan deal.

Xavi might give Cancelo the opportunity to show his skills at Barcelona because several big clubs like Bayern Munich refused Cancelo's arrival as a loan player for one season, and of course that was very dangerous because when he was on loan, Cancelo would indirectly know the strategy used. At Barcelona, the risk of divulging the secrets of the strategy used is very high, so Xavi has to be careful when giving instructions to his players.

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Quote from: snipie on August 29, 2023, 04:22:57 PM

Sevilla have serious problem in La Liga at the opposite of UEFA competitions matches. They obliged Manchester City to play penalties then lose vs Alaves and Girona which is quite random.

Yes, I agree with you that Sevilla's performance has become weak nowadays, but seriously, I did not discover that against Manchester City because they really performed well, but just because Manchester City have better players than them. In fact, I don't expect Sevilla to perform at that level. But in this domestic league, I see their poor performances, which I never expected from them. Their coach really needs to do something to fix this problem in time; if not, Sevilla may end up in a position they never expected at the end of the season.

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Their next match will be played away vs Atlético Madrid which isn't good in my opinion. ATM just punished Rayo Vallecano with 7 goals to 0! Their next games will be mild until they face Barcelona in October.

I can't say much, but I don't think Sevilla can do anything to win against Atletico Madrid currently, especially at home. I am expecting Atletico to come out with three points against Sevilla in their next match with their current form. Defeating Rayo Vallencano with 7-0 is what I never expected from them because I see Rayo Vallencano as an average team that always gives big teams in La Liga competition a problem, especially in their home games.

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Quote from: snipie on August 29, 2023, 04:22:57 PM

Sevilla have serious problem in La Liga at the opposite of UEFA competitions matches. They obliged Manchester City to play penalties then lose vs Alaves and Girona which is quite random..
Their next match will be played away vs Atlético Madrid which isn't good in my opinion. ATM just punished Rayo Vallecano with 7 goals to 0! Their next games will be mild until they face Barcelona in October.

I also feel that way. For some reason, in my opinion, Sevilla's performance in La Liga was even very bad, not only last season, but also this season, they started this season very badly. Even though this season is still long, they shouldn't have to be at the bottom of the standings.. In fact, much worse than the newcomer clubs in the league. But it's undeniable, even though they were very bad in La Liga, their performance was opposite in the European League, they were even able to slightly offset Man City's performance in yesterday's battle match. Even though they lost, their performance was not that bad.

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Quote from: borovichok on August 29, 2023, 03:57:11 PM

Xavi Hernandez and Carlo Ancelotti will definitely upgrade the performance of their perspective clubs. La Liga is a top competitions, having the best among the best. Keeping an close eye on Barcelona and Real Madrid. They're the best clubs in La Liga followed by Atletico Madrid. The blaugrana have higer chances of been crowned champions, same thing goes to the blaugrana, who are aiming to expects the very best performance from these clubs this current new season. We would be be simply observing these games and calculative in wagering on these sport games, they're always versatile.

It's still early days and I think these two coaches will continue to bring their teams back to competing in the standings. Real Madrid is currently at the top of the standings with 3 consecutive wins and Barcelona is in 4th place in the standings with 2 wins and 1 draw. The difference in points from Real Madrid is only 2 points and I think Barcelona will still be able to catch it. Real Madrid, which is not reinforced by strikers, can still be productive by relying on Jude Bellingham and that is a plus for Ancelotti's squad. When the El Clasico match takes place, Xavi must be able to find out Real Madrid's weaknesses so that at least they can get closer to the point.

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Real Madrid didn't have a good situation in the last game and they had many injured players. The last injured player was Vinicius Junior we know they lost players like Benzame and there is no more pressure on Vinicius Junior that's why this player wanted to play even while he was injured for his team. whi can show his responsibility to his team.
But Ancelotti and the Medical team didn't take the risk to let him play in that game.

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Quote from: snipie on August 29, 2023, 04:22:57 PM

Sevilla have serious problem in La Liga at the opposite of UEFA competitions matches. They obliged Manchester City to play penalties then lose vs Alaves and Girona which is quite random..
Their next match will be played away vs Atlético Madrid which isn't good in my opinion. ATM just punished Rayo Vallecano with 7 goals to 0! Their next games will be mild until they face Barcelona in October.

I think Sevilla will have worse luck this season because they were so weak in games at the start of the season. Luis Mendilibar, who is believed to be able to make big changes to Sevilla at the start of this season, seems to be having big difficulties because the performance of his team in the last 3 matches has really played badly. This defeat made the coach and players even more pressured to face the next match because they will face Atletico madrid this week.

Atletico madrid is not a weak team, so Sevilla must be able to try their best to be able to secure points in this match even if they have to get a draw. However, seeing the big victory won by Atletico Madrid in the previous match makes us sure that Atletico Madrid will be able to win this match in front of their fans.

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Quote from: shogun47 on August 29, 2023, 04:31:36 PM

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Sevilla have started this season with poor performance and record again just like they did last season. If they are not careful, they might not win any trophy this season because I don't think that there will the a miracle for Sevilla just like that of last season.

Sevilla have serious problem in La Liga at the opposite of UEFA competitions matches. They obliged Manchester City to play penalties then lose vs Alaves and Girona which is quite random..
Their next match will be played away vs Atlético Madrid which isn't good in my opinion. ATM just punished Rayo Vallecano with 7 goals to 0! Their next games will be mild until they face Barcelona in October.

That is why some of the matches in those uncommon competitions can be misleading. It could be misleading in many ways and perhaps it was even misleading Sevilla themselves who felt to be ready for La Liga after making it into the penalties against Manchester City, but now they are miserable start into the season. This will take time to make up for or they will again be fearing to get relegated at some point in the season.

Last season we saw such a poor performance of Sevilla in La Liga. And Sevilla's performance from the beginning to the end of the season was so poor. In the end, the team could not even make it into the top 10 of the points table. But despite such a poor performance in La Liga, Sevilla's performance in the Europa League has surprised everyone. Sevilla have played well and won every match in the Europa League. I don't know if Sevilla's squad is really weak. However, the way they are performing in La League, the team is unlikely to be in the top 10 of the table this season. The probability that Sevilla will do well in the Champions League is also very low.

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Quote from: snipie on August 29, 2023, 04:22:57 PM

Quote from: Ruttoshi on August 29, 2023, 03:47:59 PM

Sevilla have started this season with poor performance and record again just like they did last season. If they are not careful, they might not win any trophy this season because I don't think that there will the a miracle for Sevilla just like that of last season.

Sevilla have serious problem in La Liga at the opposite of UEFA competitions matches. They obliged Manchester City to play penalties then lose vs Alaves and Girona which is quite random..
Their next match will be played away vs Atlético Madrid which isn't good in my opinion. ATM just punished Rayo Vallecano with 7 goals to 0! Their next games will be mild until they face Barcelona in October.

That is why some of the matches in those uncommon competitions can be misleading. It could be misleading in many ways and perhaps it was even misleading Sevilla themselves who felt to be ready for La Liga after making it into the penalties against Manchester City, but now they are miserable start into the season. This will take time to make up for or they will again be fearing to get relegated at some point in the season.

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