La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 1958.

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Quote from: zuzie on August 03, 2023, 10:30:21 AM

Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

This is a new debut for Jude Bellingham in Madrid, because it is still in a friendly match coach Carlo Ancelotti trying to find the right position for him, Ancelotti has made several game options throughout pre-season to find the maximum performance from all players. However, this defeat will see Ancelotti return to make more correcting in his first team before LaLiga starts

The problem was not only in jude bellingham. I remind you that if madrid really needs a right back for sure. Seeing how juventus was always pushing from the right side made me aware if real madrid doesn't have good right back at this moment.
Ancelotti needs to sign a new player or real madrid gonna have a very bad season. Madrid is very close to starting the new season. Ancelotti shall use the result from previous matches as evaluations.

Playing without benzema gave very big impact on the club. That proves that if benzema has the biggest contribution to the real madrid last season. Joselu's level is far below benzema at this moment.

Madrid shall have added new striker on its line up. The club can't only have joselu as pure centre forward. Joselu's performance in pre season was so bad.

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Quote from: zuzie on August 03, 2023, 10:30:21 AM

Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

This is a new debut for Jude Bellingham in Madrid, because it is still in a friendly match coach Carlo Ancelotti trying to find the right position for him, Ancelotti has made several game options throughout pre-season to find the maximum performance from all players. However, this defeat will see Ancelotti return to make more correcting in his first team before LaLiga starts

By looking at the quality and performance of new players in friendly matches like this, of course Ancelotti will be able to know the players readiness to play in real matches when the league starts later. So yes, even though the results may still not be optimal but still, it looks like Bellingham will also get his place in the Real Madrid main squad later. Unless Bellingham suffers an injury like Guler, then surely it will be a very unfortunate incident and will probably be regretted too.

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Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

This is a new debut for Jude Bellingham in Madrid, because it is still in a friendly match coach Carlo Ancelotti trying to find the right position for him, Ancelotti has made several game options throughout pre-season to find the maximum performance from all players. However, this defeat will see Ancelotti return to make more correcting in his first team before LaLiga starts

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Quote from: RockBell on August 03, 2023, 09:22:38 AM

Juventus game against real Madrid am not surprised by the way and of the sincere sincere truth Juventus is good and with this, I think they are ready for business, we want a good start from Marid not the disappointment they gave their fans, allowing Machester city to win in the champions league, and to my surprise Barcelona winning against them too, as you said since its only pre-season, I hope they don't keep repeating the same thing when he league starts, sometimes is not about having ball possession or shots on target the main thing that is considered is the goal with all these signs am seen hope all these clubs will not fuck up when he season starts, Mbappes transfer is clear already the dude is going no were since they have increased his money I don't think Madrid is still interested in him currently.

Unpleasant results in closing pre-season for Madrid, it seems they have lost focus due to the issue of Mbappe move to Santiago Bernabeu. Ancelotti must improve their back line and midfield, I think Vinicius can be moved to the center if Joselu is not played. The 3-1 defeat to Juventus meant that they had lost touch in defence, Ancelotti must have understood this shortcoming very well.

La Liga will start on 12 August, each team still has the opportunity to improve the depth of their squad after undergoing a pre-season tour.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on August 03, 2023, 10:12:48 AM

Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Real Madrid need to evaluate their two defeats in trial matches this season, conceding six goals in the last two games Ancelotti needs to pay attention to to build the solidity of Real Madrid back line. The attack line also did not work optimally, the poor finishing forced Ancelotti to ask Real Madrid's management to immediately bring in a quality striker.

Vinicius cannot be relied on alone up front without the support of a quality partner, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their number of goals. A fragile defensive line needs to be repaired immediately before the new season starts, Real Madrid also needs to find a quality striker to fill the place left by Benzema.

It is normal to think that they need to improve a couple of things when they concede six goals in two games, but I think that Ancelotti doesn't really care that much about the goals conceded in these friendly matches. He is trying to collect as many impressions as possible and then conclude what needs to be done.

In this game against Juventus it wasn't an issue that there was not enough pressure offensively. This was all about efficiency. Check the statistics and you will see that Real Madrid was overwhelmingly better. But they didn't score.

That there is still an urgent need for a striker is obvious, but that is no surprise at all. But the problems have been discussed here as well and Real Madrid has no choice but to wait and see what Mbappe will do. They can't buy a striker now and then a few days later they could have signed Mbappe.

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Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Real Madrid need to evaluate their two defeats in trial matches this season, conceding six goals in the last two games Ancelotti needs to pay attention to to build the solidity of Real Madrid back line. The attack line also did not work optimally, the poor finishing forced Ancelotti to ask Real Madrid's management to immediately bring in a quality striker.

Vinicius cannot be relied on alone up front without the support of a quality partner, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their number of goals. A fragile defensive line needs to be repaired immediately before the new season starts, Real Madrid also needs to find a quality striker to fill the place left by Benzema.

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Quote from: len01 on August 03, 2023, 09:25:38 AM

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Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Regardless of the successive defeats experienced by Real Madrid, this will always be a lesson for all Madrid players. In the next season all players will be busy with the competition that will start soon and will be more challenging for both Madrid and other clubs. Returning to the actual match would definitely be more difficult to predict. Madrid did lose, but in the match later this defeat is not a benchmark that Madrid is easy to beat. Even though in that match Madrid controlled the game, it's just that in terms of finishing it still couldn't look sharp.

I have often said here that dont draw conclusions from friendly matches because what will determine whether a team looks strong or not is only in actual matches or even matches in the UCL. it do not mean that Madrid lost against Juventus, this is a sign that Madrid performance is bad, but its just that Real Madrid players dont take it seriously so they appear normal.
if not we can see the matches of other teams because sometimes top teams can lose this pre-season game so dont be surprised if Real Madrid lost against Juventus yesterday and I think its not decisive whether Madrid will lose this season but its just that Ancelotti is looking for a formation the best or surprise the real match by showing his strong performance.

Now in this case I really understand why many people are concerned about the club's defeat in the pre-season match, because maybe it could not match the expectations they have.
In this case I agree with you that we cannot conclude that they will do the same thing as the results they get in friendly matches. Because we know that it was a trial match that was intended from the start to test the extent of the strength they have, and keep in mind also that they did not appear with the best squad and strategy. Schemes like this we see very often, and don't be surprised if we see something different from them in real competition.
They're just measuring the strength of the whole scheme which will be a surprise later on.

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Quote from: reagansimms on August 03, 2023, 05:07:30 AM

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Well we knew that Real Madrid had problems up front, it is no coincidence that they are looking for a replacement for Benzema who has fitness problems due to his age
I don't know if he's succeeding but the market is certainly not favourable, let's see what happens

It seems that Real Madrid prefers the option of waiting until Mbappe contract expires with PSG then they can recruit him for free next season. As you can see, Real Madrid prefers to remain silent rather than make an official offer to sign Mbappe. Real Madrid cool attitude has led to various kinds of speculation to the public, even though they really need a quality striker to replace Benzema role.

Real Madrid weakness is in the striker position, so far they have just brought in Joselu who is 33 years old, based on his age, he is not the main one in Ancelotti squad. Based on the needs of clubs on every front, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their attack power.

It has never been easy to stay silent in this situation because right now things are going getting more troubled as PSG already having him on sell list with few clubs are already in talk and if this negotiation goes positive than Real Madrid can lose Mbappé for the another four or five years even he personally rejected Saudi League offer which was one of the biggest in soccer history, but few English clubs are still working on this and Real Madrid is also trying to arrange funds for this as well because they are understanding this all can ruin their another season and things can go from bad to worse for them as well.

PSG already arranging their striker which is under their radar and now all depend on Mbappé and clubs how they will handle this all exit of Benzema already give them shock, and they are surely needed to work on for fixing this problem before start of this season.

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Quote from: bitLeap on August 03, 2023, 08:31:15 AM

Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Regardless of the successive defeats experienced by Real Madrid, this will always be a lesson for all Madrid players. In the next season all players will be busy with the competition that will start soon and will be more challenging for both Madrid and other clubs. Returning to the actual match would definitely be more difficult to predict. Madrid did lose, but in the match later this defeat is not a benchmark that Madrid is easy to beat. Even though in that match Madrid controlled the game, it's just that in terms of finishing it still couldn't look sharp.

I have often said here that dont draw conclusions from friendly matches because what will determine whether a team looks strong or not is only in actual matches or even matches in the UCL. it do not mean that Madrid lost against Juventus, this is a sign that Madrid performance is bad, but its just that Real Madrid players dont take it seriously so they appear normal.
if not we can see the matches of other teams because sometimes top teams can lose this pre-season game so dont be surprised if Real Madrid lost against Juventus yesterday and I think its not decisive whether Madrid will lose this season but its just that Ancelotti is looking for a formation the best or surprise the real match by showing his strong performance.

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Quote from: Bobrox on August 03, 2023, 01:45:55 AM

Real Madrid loss against Juventus on pre season match 3-1 last few hours, its become second time in a row for Real Madrid losing in pre season match after last games defeated by Barcelona. Its not really good for Real Madrid although as pre season match because without two weeks later they will play in La Liga. Against Juventus, Real Madrid dominance in ball possession and shot on target but its can't helped Madrid for winning the match.

Last match against Juventus become last pre season match for Real Madrid, next match against Athletic Bilbao in La Liga and Carlo Ancelotti must back to the top performance in domestic league. Although have weakness on striker position after not clear transfer Mbappe, Real Madrid have perform as well as in La Liga and Champion League next season.

Juventus game against real Madrid am not surprised by the way and of the sincere sincere truth Juventus is good and with this, I think they are ready for business, we want a good start from Marid not the disappointment they gave their fans, allowing Machester city to win in the champions league, and to my surprise Barcelona winning against them too, as you said since its only pre-season, I hope they don't keep repeating the same thing when he league starts, sometimes is not about having ball possession or shots on target the main thing that is considered is the goal with all these signs am seen hope all these clubs will not fuck up when he season starts, Mbappes transfer is clear already the dude is going no were since they have increased his money I don't think Madrid is still interested in him currently.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 03, 2023, 04:27:39 AM

Real Madrid are only in need of a centre-forward now and after that they should be good to go. However there is no certain target that they are going after now. As Mbappe is likely to join them by next summer they will need to improve their attempts for another player. They had some targets before in fact.

However one by one all of their targets are getting close to be signed by other teams lately. For example Vlahovic was one of their targets and he is quite likely to sign for Chelsea in case there is an agreement on the fee. Kane is also about to sign for Bayern Munich soon.

Recent results clearly indicating Real Madrid needs to change their mind on Mbappé because if they fail to fill this surely things could be can go into wrong way for them in this season because they already lost their all desired players which are mentioned already and Mbappé is surely coming but as they want him as free agent this can give them trouble with central striker spot needs to be settled in last two games they have only one goal.

Vlahović could be also good alternative, but Juventus is now trying their best to swap him with Lukaku which is surely problem for the Real Madrid, and they have to do things in next few days if they want to have better results in both big competitions which are no few days away from start.

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Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

I think it's difficult for new players to adapt quickly on the field, let alone use a different strategy before, that's why I feel Madrid need to get a lot of substitutes for Benzema on the front lines, because they can maximize their attack power, because at the moment there is no one who can replace him. Benzema is currently on the front lines, often seeing Madrid lose in this pre-season.

Mbappe is at least Madrid's main target to be able to replace Benzema on the front lines. For this reason, this is an opportunity for Madrid to make the decision to immediately bring Mbappe to Madrid to play in this season, which will soon start, given that several new players are quite expensive to be bought by Madrid but not yet. contributed a lot in pre-season matches.

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Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Regardless of the successive defeats experienced by Real Madrid, this will always be a lesson for all Madrid players. In the next season all players will be busy with the competition that will start soon and will be more challenging for both Madrid and other clubs. Returning to the actual match would definitely be more difficult to predict. Madrid did lose, but in the match later this defeat is not a benchmark that Madrid is easy to beat. Even though in that match Madrid controlled the game, it's just that in terms of finishing it still couldn't look sharp.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 03, 2023, 06:48:23 AM

Madrid knows the huge cost of buying a world class player like Kylian Mbappe and that's why they want him to join the club as a free agent by next summer. The striking role of the club that was left vacuum with the departure of their former club captain will definitely affect the team's performance if not properly replaced. So I think they should get a temporary striker that'll fill that role for the new season before the supposed arrival of Mbappe by next summer

The possibility of Mbappe coming to Real Madrid is very high because Mbappe has expressed many times that he doesn't want to continue with PSG, and Real Madrid is the club he's very interested in and will join when his contract expires. Real Madrid is targeting many contracts, and among them, I see Harry Kean as the most reasonable option right now for Real Madrid.

Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Real Madrid is testing Bellingham with this position, and I believe everything is just beginning with him, so it's not bad to have some losing matches. He needs more time to adapt and adjust his playing because he's still very young, and there's so much potential to develop.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on August 03, 2023, 07:04:26 AM

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The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

Even bellingham can do nothing against juventus. This guy still lacks of experience. He needs more experience in the football. Im very surprising to see that madrid was making more than 35 shoots but only 8 shoots were on target which is very bad.
Madrid's strategy was not going so well. Bellingham shall not become main chooose for madrid for the upcoming season.

Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Joselu was very under perform in this match. He can do nothing. 1 goals from so many shoots which are very bad result for madrid. Madrid was always getting its goal from vini. The striker seems to be useless in this match.
Madrid shall get a new striker, mbappe may become a solution for this.

I will still put Barcelona ahead in La Liga. Because since the departure of Benzema from the Real Madrid team, the finisher department of the team is in a very bad condition, while everyone from the defense to the attack department of the Barcelona team is complete.

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Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

Even bellingham can do nothing against juventus. This guy still lacks of experience. He needs more experience in the football. Im very surprising to see that madrid was making more than 35 shoots but only 8 shoots were on target which is very bad.
Madrid's strategy was not going so well. Bellingham shall not become main chooose for madrid for the upcoming season.

Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Joselu was very under perform in this match. He can do nothing. 1 goals from so many shoots which are very bad result for madrid. Madrid was always getting its goal from vini. The striker seems to be useless in this match.
Madrid shall get a new striker, mbappe may become a solution for this.

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Quote from: Die_empty on August 03, 2023, 05:42:44 AM

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It seems that Real Madrid prefers the option of waiting until Mbappe contract expires with PSG then they can recruit him for free next season. As you can see, Real Madrid prefers to remain silent rather than make an official offer to sign Mbappe. Real Madrid cool attitude has led to various kinds of speculation to the public, even though they really need a quality striker to replace Benzema role.

Real Madrid weakness is in the striker position, so far they have just brought in Joselu who is 33 years old, based on his age, he is not the main one in Ancelotti squad. Based on the needs of clubs on every front, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their attack power.

If they intend to sign Mbappe as a free agent then it will come with a cost. PSG said Mbappe must sign a new contract or leave the club. If he insists he wants to stay till next season, the club said they are ready to keep him on the bench for the entire season. He might even be banned from training with the main team which might affect his performance. The price is that the French striker will be willing to stay on the bench and PSG will also be willing to waste money on his wages. The decision to attract Mbappe to Real Madrid next season might not be coach Ancelotti's decision because he will be leaving the club for a new role with the Brazil national team after the end of this season.

From Real Madrid's last game against Barcelona, it was glaring that without a natural striker in the team, the club might find it difficult to maximize goal-scoring chances. They missed so many opportunities in the game because they lacked a natural number nine. The game against Juventus also proved the need to get a striker where they had thirty-four shots, eight on target, and scored just one goal after having total domination of the game. If Mbappe is too expensive, the club should seek cheaper options.

Real Madrid knows how big of a player that Kylian Mbappe is and the kind of huge positive impact he's gonna bring to the club if he's finally signed to the Spanish La Liga giants and that's why they're doing anything to make the Frenchman commit his future to the club.
Madrid knows the huge cost of buying a world class player like Kylian Mbappe and that's why they want him to join the club as a free agent by next summer. The striking role of the club that was left vacuum with the departure of their former club captain will definitely affect the team's performance if not properly replaced. So I think they should get a temporary striker that'll fill that role for the new season before the supposed arrival of Mbappe by next summer

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Quote from: Despairo on August 03, 2023, 05:31:02 AM

The reason why Real Madrid lose against Juventus is Real Madrid use a strategy where it depend on Bellingham as an attacking midfielder. They're more comfortable when the midfielder backing up other midfielder and working together.

But it's clear there are so many chances in Real Madrid, but their strikers weren't able to maximize it.

Yes, I quite agree and actually Bellingham is more suitable as a box to box central midfielder than a false nine attacking midfielder. But indeed from the start of the pre-season match, Ancelotti wanted to emphasize the 4-4-2 diamond formation with Vini and Rodrygo as the axis of attack but it seemed that for Vini this did not make him comfortable. The duet of Vini and Joselu in the match against Juventus was also unsatisfactory and there was very little cooperation between the two.

Apart from that, Real Madrid's defense was also very bad, so they conceded more goals. I think there should be further improvements and as much as possible Ancelotti should be brave to use the 4-3-3 formation as usual by entrusting Joselu as the main striker. We know last season Joselu scored 16 goals for Espanyol, so I don't think it's a bad thing to implement.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on August 03, 2023, 05:36:06 AM

I also have the same opinion about Real Madrid. They really need someone who can fill the void left by Benzema.

They know about that problem better than any other and they planned to replace Benzema with Mbappe since the last three seasons but so far they have yet completed tha transfer. They came closely to have Mbappe in the last summer but eventually the player decided to stay in PSG. In this summer, many news that Mbappe and Real Madrid already got agreement to bring the player to Bernabeu in the next summer as a free agent from PSG.

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And we can already guess the figure that Real Madrid needs. Namely Mbappe. But somehow this club still remains silent about Mbappe. In fact, I was surprised by Real Madrid's attitude, which seemed to have no worries about losing Mbappe when there was currently intense news about several clubs interested in and approaching Mbappe. And I feel the decision to wait until next season for Mbappe is very risky for the club. As we have seen, even in several pre-season matches, Real Madrid always have difficulty completing their attacks. But I hope Real Madrid shows a different game in the real season. I hope that what is shown in Pre-season is not the true game of this club.

They are confident because they are one of strongest clubs in Europe, in Champions League and with success of the club, they helped many star players to win Ballon d'Or. It is very solid reason for their strong belief that Mbappe will aim at Real Madrid as his next destination. Assume the news is true, Real Madrid have little fear that they will lose Mbappe to another big club in Europe if he no longer stays in Paris and plays for PSG.

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Quote from: reagansimms on August 03, 2023, 05:07:30 AM

It seems that Real Madrid prefers the option of waiting until Mbappe contract expires with PSG then they can recruit him for free next season. As you can see, Real Madrid prefers to remain silent rather than make an official offer to sign Mbappe. Real Madrid cool attitude has led to various kinds of speculation to the public, even though they really need a quality striker to replace Benzema role.

Real Madrid weakness is in the striker position, so far they have just brought in Joselu who is 33 years old, based on his age, he is not the main one in Ancelotti squad. Based on the needs of clubs on every front, Real Madrid really needs a quality striker to increase their attack power.

If they intend to sign Mbappe as a free agent then it will come with a cost. PSG said Mbappe must sign a new contract or leave the club. If he insists he wants to stay till next season, the club said they are ready to keep him on the bench for the entire season. He might even be banned from training with the main team which might affect his performance. The price is that the French striker will be willing to stay on the bench and PSG will also be willing to waste money on his wages. The decision to attract Mbappe to Real Madrid next season might not be coach Ancelotti's decision because he will be leaving the club for a new role with the Brazil national team after the end of this season.

From Real Madrid's last game against Barcelona, it was glaring that without a natural striker in the team, the club might find it difficult to maximize goal-scoring chances. They missed so many opportunities in the game because they lacked a natural number nine. The game against Juventus also proved the need to get a striker where they had thirty-four shots, eight on target, and scored just one goal after having total domination of the game. If Mbappe is too expensive, the club should seek cheaper options.

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