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Barcelona looked stunning when they beat Real Madrid. One of Barcelona players immediately became hot news on social media. He is Fermin Lopez, who is one of the graduates from the La Masia academy who performed quite well in yesterday's El Clasico match. I think Xavi will continue to provide opportunities for young players to show their talent in pre-season games.

Barcelona managed to beat Real Madrid with a big score which made Barcelona even more confident that next season Barcelona would be able to defend the title. But for real madrid they have gaps they can improve in this transfer window, If Real Madrid don't do it I think Barcelona will easily beat them next season.

It’s not that I’m completely disagreeing with you thinking that football is entirety about having good players but relying on one match only which is not even official to determine future results of next season . There are several factors to consider in these cases including tactical gameplay and team cohesion. Barcelona's coach Xavi shows promising career with Barcelona that we agree while in my opinion Ancelotti should retire soon from Real Madrid and find a new better coach that will use the players in a good way and show us the true White House power. Both teams have things to improve to compete in the UCL this year. This match i have seen that Real Madrid played better but Barcelona knew how to win and score 3 goals.
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Atletico Madrid always appear stable in Laliga because they always close the season in the top 4. However, this season there is a relatively high chance that they will still be under Real Madrid and Barcelona on the standings. Atletico Madrid don't have a big instinct to build a squad to be contenders in the title race because they will feel weak when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona.

I think Atletico Madrid can win the Laliga trophy if they have better quality players in their squad depth. Because the two teams above them have stronger squad depth compared to Atletico madrid.

Atletico Madrid have established themselves as title contenders every season in La Liga, but it is true that their quality is no better than Real Madrid and Barcelona. Even if Atletico Madrid could win the title, it would mean that Barcelona and Real Madrid were completely unstable during that season.

Atletico Madrid last won the title in the 2020-2021 season, but they have always been able to qualify for the Champions League almost every season. So far Barcelona has won 5 titles in the last 9 seasons, Real Madrid won 3 titles, while Atletico Madrid only had 1 title. For next season I believe Atletico Madrid will be in contention for the title, but I tend to agree that Barcelona are the favorites to get it.
Diego Simeone has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that his Atletico Madrid side is capable of winning the La Liga even when they're least expected to win it ahead of the serial winners which are Real Madrid and Barcelona.
However, considering their current squad and their less involvement in this summer's transfer window, I think winning the La Liga would be a very difficult task for them next season. Finishing in the top four looks certainly a possibility but it'll be difficult to see them win the league
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Yesterday there was a match between Atletico Madrid won the game against Macnshter City in a friendly match while Manchester City is the champion of Europe and they are a strong team with Guardiola, Atletico Madrid proved they improved their performance for the next season and they can be a strong opponent for any team.
Diego Simeone about that game and the result they got said they are in peace and got more self-confidence after this game.


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It would be better for Atletico Madrid to start off with a clean slate after this season. I mean it depends on how they will perform in this season of course. But considering the last two seasons I won't keep my expectation level much high for them. They are just struggling to be consistent from the beginning of a season in the La Liga.

I agree with their look in the Champions League as well. They can't even get past the group stage which isn't nice to see for a powerful team like them. It is like a last chance for Simeone and he had better use it efficiently. But if he doesn't the board shouldn't have second thoughts about parting ways with him.
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I think so, too. Barcelona won't play a terrible season considering the players they have to start the season with. Real Madrid is also too strong to completely fail, but I think last season was too weak to be true Tongue

Atletico Madrid is like a surprise bag to me as I can't clearly see whether they are ready to attack the top again or whether it could be another average season for them. They also never play a bad season, but to stand up to Barcelona and Real Madrid it takes more than a good season. They did lack the killer instinct in some games, in the close games when they could win it with a one goal advantage and they usually do win it, but last season they couldn't kill the clock in some of those close games and lost points due to an equalizer or lost a point because they got a lucky punch against them.
Atletico Madrid always appear stable in Laliga because they always close the season in the top 4. However, this season there is a relatively high chance that they will still be under Real Madrid and Barcelona on the standings. Atletico Madrid don't have a big instinct to build a squad to be contenders in the title race because they will feel weak when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona.

I think Atletico Madrid can win the Laliga trophy if they have better quality players in their squad depth. Because the two teams above them have stronger squad depth compared to Atletico madrid.

I don't think the lack of instinct is an issue for them when it comes to building a squad that is worthy of being a strong contender for the title race. They know what is needed to be up against Barcelona and Real Madrid for a whole season. Consistency, consistency, consistency. They need to have winning streaks and not lose points easily and carelessly. If they constantly collect points and even if it is a draw here and there, it is possible for them to stay in contact with the top and wait for a weak period of either Real Madrid or Barcelona. But it is important for them to at least stay in reasonable distance and not get too far behind too early in the season.
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Atletico Madrid were a much more competitive team for titles in the past. Simeone was there again. They won so many titles in his management as well but those days are long gone now. Of course the same system doesn't work forever for a team. It looks like we are nearing the end of Simeone's time at Atletico Madrid as well.

He has only one year left here and there is still no offer by Atletico Madrid for an extension. This means they will probably wait and see if there will be any improvement in team performance.

Atletico Madrid have a really strong squad in fact. They have the strength to be in the La Liga title race. Simeone should find a way to make this team become more consistent this season. Besides their Champions League effort has also been not decent at all.
I guess Atletico Madrid are preparing for a future without Diego Simeone. I have to say that it has been a good time with Diego and Atletico Madrid but even the best of times have to come to an end. The Simeone era no longer hold much glory days as it used to be in the La liga, it could be the club is considering bringing in a new manager with fresh ideas to control the affairs of the team and return the club back to past glory days and highly competitive seasons.
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Atletico Madrid always appear stable in Laliga because they always close the season in the top 4. However, this season there is a relatively high chance that they will still be under Real Madrid and Barcelona on the standings. Atletico Madrid don't have a big instinct to build a squad to be contenders in the title race because they will feel weak when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona.

I think Atletico Madrid can win the Laliga trophy if they have better quality players in their squad depth. Because the two teams above them have stronger squad depth compared to Atletico madrid.

Atletico Madrid have established themselves as title contenders every season in La Liga, but it is true that their quality is no better than Real Madrid and Barcelona. Even if Atletico Madrid could win the title, it would mean that Barcelona and Real Madrid were completely unstable during that season.

Atletico Madrid last won the title in the 2020-2021 season, but they have always been able to qualify for the Champions League almost every season. So far Barcelona has won 5 titles in the last 9 seasons, Real Madrid won 3 titles, while Atletico Madrid only had 1 title. For next season I believe Atletico Madrid will be in contention for the title, but I tend to agree that Barcelona are the favorites to get it.
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As for your question, it's me. I believe that Atlético may well kick City out of the Champions League - in the 21-22 season they played almost on an equal footing with City and City at the end of the game played exactly the shameful Simeone football (tightening time, fouls, senseless ball control).

I am definitely not one of those who'd say that Atletico has no chance because that's wrong, Atletico has a chance as much as any other team has a chance to win a game against Manchester City. But the relative strength of the two teams has shifted significantly over recent years and yet the game has to be played. But if that games was repeated many times, I would say that Manchester City would win significantly more games than they tie or lose against Atletico considering their present state.

Atletico a few years ago was the most inconvenient and nasty team to play against because of their attitude and their quality. There was an evil, yet effective synergy between their attitude and their quality. But do you think that they still have that quality? The attitude might be the same, but the quality isn't. That's what I can tell from my point of view.

There is no doubt that City will win most of the games in a long series. But Atlético are an awkward opponent for City in their style and if they are in shape or luck is on their side they can win. As for their current quality, firstly, the upcoming season will show, and secondly, it is obvious that Atlético has regressed in recent years. I think the problem is Diego Simeone - he is stuck in one place and it is high time for him to leave, if only to refresh his football experience in another club/League.
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From the first pre-season game to today's match against Barcelona, it was clear that Real Madrid wanted to emphasize the 4-4-2 diamond formation and indeed this formation went very well against Manchester United or AC Milan. But the problem is that when using this formation, Real Madrid still couldn't beat Barcelona in today's pre-season match and they couldn't even reply to the 3 goals scored by Barcelona players. I think Ancelotti is indeed experimenting with his current squad and the question is why from the start he didn't try Joselu as the main striker using a 4-3-3 formation, even though they have a striker who is ready at any time. We know that in the previous game Vini could not move freely because he was always stopped by the Barcelona defense. On the other hand, finishing was the main focus in this match because there were 6 shots that hit the crossbar. Barcelona is Real Madrid's only obstacle to winning the La Liga title next season and if they don't find that loophole soon, it is certain that Barcelona will become the reigning champions.
Carlos Anceloti uses the same formation he used for Manchester United and AC Milan to play against Barcelona, but I think Barcelona were well prepared to play and win because we all know that it is always a derby match between the two sides.

After Arsenal defeated Barcelona, Xavi took to social media to say that they did not expect the intensity the Arsenal squad used for them as they were preparing for just a friendly match; maybe that is why they take the match against Real Madrid very seriously.

Real Madrid still needs a reliable striker to keep them more competitive because they have good midfielders that can create good chances for the team. That’s why they insisted on signing Mbappe because they know he is good at finishing even though he is not a natural striker.I think if they go on with this team in the coming season, they will likely suffer in terms of goal scoring since Vinicius is not reliable in terms of goals.

That's right, I think Xavi said that because he only wanted to focus on the El Clasico pre-season match against Real Madrid and it was proven that Barcelona was able to embarrass Real Madrid with this quite a crushing defeat. The intensity of these two teams really knows no place and wherever they are as long as they are still on the same field, the pride of a team will be highly respected by them.

On the other hand, it is very clear that Real Madrid needs a striker with a mature finish and that is indeed the closest choice to Mbappe and I think there is no more time for Real Madrid. If they really want to beat every team in La Liga and win the title. But if Real Madrid persist in hoping for Vini's sometimes erratic performance, then they will lose the title again.

I'm not still sure about it but maybe Real Madrid didn't put full energy into this match and they were just using this El Clasico game against Barcelona to test some players and this team is still not in a good situation to be tested against Barcelona, that's why we can't say if Real Madrid had bad performance or not.
However, El Clasico is always an important game even if that's just a friendly match.

El Classico is always important, it should be. Even if this is a friendly match, both teams must make extra effort to win the match. We haven't seen Real Madrid ready yet. Barcelona won the match differently. The fact that they won by scoring 3 goals without conceding a goal caused them to gain morale before starting the league. Real Madrid has to be more careful now.
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Atletico Madrid always appear stable in Laliga because they always close the season in the top 4. However, this season there is a relatively high chance that they will still be under Real Madrid and Barcelona on the standings. Atletico Madrid don't have a big instinct to build a squad to be contenders in the title race because they will feel weak when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona.

I think Atletico Madrid can win the Laliga trophy if they have better quality players in their squad depth. Because the two teams above them have stronger squad depth compared to Atletico madrid.
In the last decade Diego Simeone has won the La Liga trophy twice in the 2013-2014 and 2020-2021 seasons. It looks good in my opinion because it managed to break the domination of the two La Liga giants, namely Madrid and Barcelona. If you look at the position of the club with the most expensive squad, ATM is in fifteenth place, Real Madrid is in fourth and Barcelona is in seventh.

With this fact it is difficult to top the standings if Madrid and Barcelona appear consistent, ATM can only step over it if there is a setback in Madrid and Barca and that is very unlikely.
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Karim Benzema was an outright striker through out his stay at Real Madrid and despite the current quality in the attacking line of the club they'll definitely feel the departure of Benzema if the club doesn't find a good replacement for him.
Vinicius Jnr and Rodrygo are two good forward players but none of them can play in the striking role like Benzema was playing for Real Madrid. I know that the Real Madrid coach can be using a formation that'll allow a false 9 usage but that doesn't solve the problem of finding his replacement I think

Madrid's main weakness has been their over-reliance on Benzema over the last few seasons. And while Benzema is in the squad they should have found a suitable replacement for Benzema. They didn't do it. And now, if Madrid does not get a suitable replacement for Benzema, the team will not be able to win the title next season. Joselu is quite a good striker. But he is not as experienced as Benzema.

Vini and Rodrygo are excellent players no doubt. But they miss a lot of easy opportunities. But Vini is slowly gaining experience. Day by day his performance is getting sharper. I hope we see better performances from Vini next season. At the same time, if Joselu and Rodrygo play well, maybe Real Madrid's performance will stabilize.

This is interesting, because the question is why Madrid did not look for a more ideal successor to replace Benzema. then, is Don Carlo too confident with the current squad only to bring in Joselu as a replacement for Benzema. or, that Madrid will actually get Mbappe next season for free. that's why, they don't want to bring in players like Kane, Osimhen, or others if they can get Mbappe for free in June 2024. or, is this scenario what the club and Perez want. for sure, we do not know what they are planning.

To be honest, I don't want to rush to judge how Madrid are doing these pre-season games. because, what they show later may be different. but we agree on one thing, if Madrid is too dependent on Benzema. so when the star chose to leave, Vini jr, Rodrygo, seemed to have lost a mentor who was very suitable for Madrid's front lines.
Vini, Benzema, Rodrygo, are the three Madrid forwards who are very, very deadly when they are in the opposing team's defensive area. now, they have to adapt to some of the newcomers.  well, the era of veteran Madrid players is coming to an end and young players will soon replace them.
Modric, Kroos, it seems that they will leave next season. if in the end these young players don't show a brilliant performance, then Madrid must bring in players who are more established and experienced. but before heading there, let's just see every development. after all, the transfer market still has a lag time.  it could too, if Don Carlo had something planned for his squad. we'll see, yet the La Liga competition has not started.
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By the way I am also not really sure Atletico Madrid can win La Liga title in season 2023-2024, but now squad of Atletico Madrid looks has improved and I think they still have a chance to get the title La Liga. Actually previous season Atletico Madrid they should be in the top second place, but at the early of that season they performance very bad and they lost a lot of points. Although I've also think same with you Barcelona can got the title of La Liga again, but the results maybe not always same like last season, I mean this league is quite competitive and we might see a new winner. Real Madrid maybe. Wink
hard enough for Atletico Madrid to get the La Liga trophy even though they successfully won over Man City in yesterday's friendly match, the match did not have high tension and man city seemed to play casually.  madrid and barcelona made a fairly large squad overhaul, so i'm more sure that either barcelona or madrid will most likely win the league this season again.

other news from barcelona, after dembele agreed to PSG it looks like they will make one of the 3 barcelona league players (fermin lopez) into the main team, i'm really interested in seeing how he played in the friendly match against madrid yesterday.
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I think so, too. Barcelona won't play a terrible season considering the players they have to start the season with. Real Madrid is also too strong to completely fail, but I think last season was too weak to be true Tongue

Atletico Madrid is like a surprise bag to me as I can't clearly see whether they are ready to attack the top again or whether it could be another average season for them. They also never play a bad season, but to stand up to Barcelona and Real Madrid it takes more than a good season. They did lack the killer instinct in some games, in the close games when they could win it with a one goal advantage and they usually do win it, but last season they couldn't kill the clock in some of those close games and lost points due to an equalizer or lost a point because they got a lucky punch against them.
Atletico Madrid always appear stable in Laliga because they always close the season in the top 4. However, this season there is a relatively high chance that they will still be under Real Madrid and Barcelona on the standings. Atletico Madrid don't have a big instinct to build a squad to be contenders in the title race because they will feel weak when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona.

I think Atletico Madrid can win the Laliga trophy if they have better quality players in their squad depth. Because the two teams above them have stronger squad depth compared to Atletico madrid.
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That's right, I think Xavi said that because he only wanted to focus on the El Clasico pre-season match against Real Madrid and it was proven that Barcelona was able to embarrass Real Madrid with this quite a crushing defeat. The intensity of these two teams really knows no place and wherever they are as long as they are still on the same field, the pride of a team will be highly respected by them.

On the other hand, it is very clear that Real Madrid needs a striker with a mature finish and that is indeed the closest choice to Mbappe and I think there is no more time for Real Madrid. If they really want to beat every team in La Liga and win the title. But if Real Madrid persist in hoping for Vini's sometimes erratic performance, then they will lose the title again.

I'm not still sure about it but maybe Real Madrid didn't put full energy into this match and they were just using this El Clasico game against Barcelona to test some players and this team is still not in a good situation to be tested against Barcelona, that's why we can't say if Real Madrid had bad performance or not.
However, El Clasico is always an important game even if that's just a friendly match.

Elclasico match has never been friendly, that's what I understood in their last round, I didn't even bother to watch the second half because I was already emotional and angry seeing how Real Madrid players were playing like loose players that have not been training for decades. Camavinga was helpless to the point that common pass became a problem to achieve. No, common! Vinicious had  the chance for a Penalty that could have give them opportunity to equalize and perhaps that would give them energy to play better but wasn't fruitful.

This is not good for Real Madrid, with the way Barcelona was having fun of Real Madrid, there is going to be problem after pre-season, they will dominate Laliga if Madrid doesn't step up. I hope by then their official striker will be ready and available to help the team, they can't continue to play without main attackers because switching between Rodrigo, Vinicious and Bellingham wouldn't yield anything good for the team.
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By the way I am also not really sure Atletico Madrid can win La Liga title in season 2023-2024, but now squad of Atletico Madrid looks has improved and I think they still have a chance to get the title La Liga. Actually previous season Atletico Madrid they should be in the top second place, but at the early of that season they performance very bad and they lost a lot of points. Although I've also think same with you Barcelona can got the title of La Liga again, but the results maybe not always same like last season, I mean this league is quite competitive and we might see a new winner. Real Madrid maybe. Wink
There are only 3 teams that have a big chance of winning the La Liga title every season, namely Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid. These three teams compete against each other to win the title, but for next season I will give a lot of hope to Barcelona who win it.

Regardless of Barcelona's current financial condition, I think they are still very worth relying on every season. I've seen how influential Xavi is for Barcelona's game, it looks very different to the team Koeman had a few seasons ago. Xavi has convinced me that he can help Barcelona return to its former glory in La Liga, but unfortunately he doesn't have much financial support to build up his squad.

I think so, too. Barcelona won't play a terrible season considering the players they have to start the season with. Real Madrid is also too strong to completely fail, but I think last season was too weak to be true Tongue

Atletico Madrid is like a surprise bag to me as I can't clearly see whether they are ready to attack the top again or whether it could be another average season for them. They also never play a bad season, but to stand up to Barcelona and Real Madrid it takes more than a good season. They did lack the killer instinct in some games, in the close games when they could win it with a one goal advantage and they usually do win it, but last season they couldn't kill the clock in some of those close games and lost points due to an equalizer or lost a point because they got a lucky punch against them.
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By the way I am also not really sure Atletico Madrid can win La Liga title in season 2023-2024, but now squad of Atletico Madrid looks has improved and I think they still have a chance to get the title La Liga. Actually previous season Atletico Madrid they should be in the top second place, but at the early of that season they performance very bad and they lost a lot of points. Although I've also think same with you Barcelona can got the title of La Liga again, but the results maybe not always same like last season, I mean this league is quite competitive and we might see a new winner. Real Madrid maybe. Wink
There are only 3 teams that have a big chance of winning the La Liga title every season, namely Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid. These three teams compete against each other to win the title, but for next season I will give a lot of hope to Barcelona who win it.

Regardless of Barcelona's current financial condition, I think they are still very worth relying on every season. I've seen how influential Xavi is for Barcelona's game, it looks very different to the team Koeman had a few seasons ago. Xavi has convinced me that he can help Barcelona return to its former glory in La Liga, but unfortunately he doesn't have much financial support to build up his squad.
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Let's see how it will be going on. I don't have big expectation for atletico madrid. It's caused by the chance owned by this club to win la liga is far smaller compared with real madrid and barcelona. Atletico madrid will always become the third strongest team in la liga.
It was able beating manchester city yet i don't see it as a good point to call that if atletico will have good future. Anything is still remain the same. Beating City doesn't mean Atletico Madrid can compete with Barcelona and Real Madrid.
I think that the result will always be the same like previous seasons. The winner will always be barcelona or real madrid. Atletico seems to have slightly chance to beat barcelona and real madrid in competition to win la liga.
The strongest contender for now is barcelona. Barcelona looks very strong after it was able beating real madrid.
By the way I am also not really sure Atletico Madrid can win La Liga title in season 2023-2024, but now squad of Atletico Madrid looks has improved and I think they still have a chance to get the title La Liga. Actually previous season Atletico Madrid they should be in the top second place, but at the early of that season they performance very bad and they lost a lot of points. Although I've also think same with you Barcelona can got the title of La Liga again, but the results maybe not always same like last season, I mean this league is quite competitive and we might see a new winner. Real Madrid maybe. Wink
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Benzema's departure has left a huge gap in Real Madrid's attack. However, I still appreciate Real Madrid's financial potential, and everything will improve if they successfully recruit Mbappe in this summer transfer.
Yes, perhaps the pressure is on the shoulders of two young strikers, Vinicius and Rodrygo when senior Benzema has gone to the Saudi Professional League to play. In this match, they have to face the great rival Barcelona. Barcelona, this season, is too comprehensive. I rate them higher than Real Madrid. As you say: "If they successfully recruit Mbappe this summer," it will be great to see the trio of Vinicius, Rodrygo, and Mbappe play. This will be a new era for Real Madrid.

Those three will go down as one of the greatest attacking trios of young players in football history. Those three are simply too good and can easily merge together. Any side that gets them all will be extremely fortunate, and scoring a goal in a match will be rather easy for that club. Until Real Madrid finds a proper striker, as currently it now the case, I feel Barcelona will be ahead of them in the next season's competition, as they appear to have a more complete squad  than Real Madrid at the moment.
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I just don’t want Barcelona to fall into a false sense of security that they were able to win the preseason match against Real Madrid so they will also be able to win the competitive matches as well. And at the same time, I am pretty sure that if this is the same approach taken by Barcelona in the competitive match Barcelona is definitely going to lose.

If you think like that, then it benefits Real Madrid a lot. They will continue to work on improving the club, because they lost to Barcelona. Although it does not describe the strength of official competition, but at least they have the ability to improve or make analysis.
That makes Real Madrid continue to try to get new players including Mbappe. Although there has been a lot of local media drama in the country I have written, Real Madrid and PSG have an agreement. Even Real Madrid immediately wanted to solve this problem so that Mbappe would not go to another European club.
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I hadn't heard of Fermin Lopez before. There was nothing that caught my attention. But after he scored a goal, I did some research. He is a very young and ambitious player.
If he gets a chance to play, I'm sure he'll improve a lot. May be mentioned a lot in the coming years Smiley
Of course, we rarely hear the name Fermin Lopez because he just got the chance to show his best qualities in this pre-season game. But what should be appreciated is that he was able to score against Real Madrid, who are eternal rivals for Barcelona, ​​and this was what Lopez did in his debut with the senior team. Even though it was a friendly match but he managed to steal the attention of many people in that match.

With the development of his quality in the game, it is believed that Lopez will become a very influential player for Barcelona in the coming seasons. I think Xavi will certainly give an opportunity for Lopez in the remaining pre-season matches in order to hone the skills he has.
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