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in recent years Messi and Ronaldo have dominated the Ballon d'Or but throughout the 2021 season these two players were not so good, it was Karim Benzema's performance which was extraordinary by being able to contribute greatly to the UCL champions that Real Madrid won.
It is true that the unexpected often happens in the Ballon d'Or election but I have no doubt that Benzema will win this year and some former footballers have said the same.

Benzima had a total of 59 contributions in 46 games played with 44 goals and 15 assists in 46 games played. With goals in big games as well(Hat-trick against PSG coming back from a 1-0 loss to them). Sadio Mane, Vinicius Jr and Robert Lewandowski are other contenders but I don't think anyone has as impressive feat as Benzima. Who has been consistent throughout the year.

Usually the ones who wins Ballon d'Or is a player who has won beside the La Liga or the local Championship,also the Champions League and last time the Champions League was won by Real Madrid so most probably at a really high percentage rate the Ballon d'Or is going to Benzema.Lewandoski is a great player also scoring an insane number of goals but he lacks winning a major trophy this year beside Bundesliga so his candidature has something missing.It can happen anything at the voting but usually has happened that the player with most trophies won has also won this event.

It is important how productive this year has been for Ballon D'or. Lewandowski had a very good season. Likewise, he had a very good season with Benzema. But Benzema often saved Real Madrid at the last moment. Benzema is one of the players who have the biggest share in becoming champions of the Champions League. That's why I think Benzema will win over Lewandowski.

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Quote from: terrorJR on June 27, 2022, 07:58:25 AM

For Lewandowski and Ronaldo maybe still can but I still feel that Messi right now shouldn't be that much of a favourite. His performances can be said to be ordinary in the League and it is very biased if he can return to competing in a top position and a strong candidate.
At the moment I still feel that the strong rival is Lewandowski but maybe for the Ballon d'Or there will be more drama like last season.

What drama happened last season, did I miss something? Was it because Messi was the favorite last season that people can't accept that he doesn't perform optimally and felt Lewandowski deserved more? Or because Jorginho was named one of the favorite players to win the Ballon d'or last season?

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballon_d'Or

Despite the various public opinions regarding the former Barcelona striker, I still believe he will be one of the strongest candidates to win the Ballon d'or award.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on June 27, 2022, 09:07:04 AM

In my view Gareth Bale has become a forgotten player after he contributed to the success of Real Madrid in all competitions that he participated in. His decision to leave was indeed the right decision compared to having to stay. It would be a shame if his abilities couldn't be channeled. In his new team I hope he can get enough playing time.

Real Madrid is a very big club, maybe the biggest club in the world economically. They played a star like Gareth Bale for years, but big clubs like this are always changing and signing new young stars. Bale can still perform at a high level, but Real Madrid has much better ones. Bale naturally doesn't want to wait for a substitute while he can play elsewhere. His transfer was the best for both sides. Bale will always be remembered well at Real Madrid. I remember his performance at left-back at Tottenham before he came to Real, everyone was watching him with open mouth. His position has changed over time. He really left a big mark on this club.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on June 27, 2022, 09:35:55 AM

In your opinion, what made him forgotten by Real Madrid despite his many contributions to Real Madrid including in the Champions League final when he scored a beautiful goal against Karius.
One of his shortcomings in my opinion lies in his high ego and difficulty in passing to players in more promising positions to score goals.

Right. It was a good decision for him to maintain the form with enough playing time. Because at Los Angeles FC he will get a starter and that's what he really needs.

I think it's still within the normal limits of what Bale does when he plays and it seems selfish. As a player he also has the instinct to score goals, and it is not uncommon for him to make assists for his team-mates. Shouldn't forget something extraordinary just because a little "mistake" that he did.

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Since returning from a loan period from Tottenham to Real Madrid, very few Gareth Bale have played because Real Madrid trust Rodrygo and Vinicius more.
Bale also did not get much sympathy from the fans so his decision to join Los Angeles FC following Giorgio Chelini was fully supported by the fans. Of course this support can save Real Madrid's expenses to pay his salary.

In my view Gareth Bale has become a forgotten player after he contributed to the success of Real Madrid in all competitions that he participated in. His decision to leave was indeed the right decision compared to having to stay. It would be a shame if his abilities couldn't be channeled. In his new team I hope he can get enough playing time.

In your opinion, what made him forgotten by Real Madrid despite his many contributions to Real Madrid including in the Champions League final when he scored a beautiful goal against Karius.
One of his shortcomings in my opinion lies in his high ego and difficulty in passing to players in more promising positions to score goals.

Right. It was a good decision for him to maintain the form with enough playing time. Because at Los Angeles FC he will get a starter and that's what he really needs.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on June 27, 2022, 08:59:51 AM

Since returning from a loan period from Tottenham to Real Madrid, very few Gareth Bale have played because Real Madrid trust Rodrygo and Vinicius more.
Bale also did not get much sympathy from the fans so his decision to join Los Angeles FC following Giorgio Chelini was fully supported by the fans. Of course this support can save Real Madrid's expenses to pay his salary.

In my view Gareth Bale has become a forgotten player after he contributed to the success of Real Madrid in all competitions that he participated in. His decision to leave was indeed the right decision compared to having to stay. It would be a shame if his abilities couldn't be channeled. In his new team I hope he can get enough playing time.

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Instead of being a bench warmer for the Real Madrid team, considering that the World Cup is not far away, it is better for Gareth Bale to move like an offer that has come in, namely Los Angeles FC. If nothing goes wrong, Gareth Bale will be registered on 7 June when the MLS transfer window opens.
Coming to Real Madrid with a fantastic transfer fee, Gareth Bale finally left Real Madrid on a free transfer.

Gareth Bale was not Ancelotti choice last season and it seems Bale departure from Real Madrid has the full support of the fans so he can rebuild his career at his new club. in terms of age I think Gareth Bale can still maximize his ability to make a big contribution to the Lafc team next season.

Gareth Bale arrival in the Lafc team made him only the second player to be brought in this summer before Lafc managed to bring in Giorgio Chiellini from Juventus.

Since returning from a loan period from Tottenham to Real Madrid, very few Gareth Bale have played because Real Madrid trust Rodrygo and Vinicius more.
Bale also did not get much sympathy from the fans so his decision to join Los Angeles FC following Giorgio Chelini was fully supported by the fans. Of course this support can save Real Madrid's expenses to pay his salary.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on June 27, 2022, 08:40:36 AM

For more than ten years, Ballon d'Or has been dominated by Messi and Ronaldo. We saw Modric winning the prize four years ago which was the only time a different player winning it in this time period. However considering the previous season, I think the most deserving players are Lewandowski and Benzema. I'm a little indecisive between them but I assume that I will vote for Benzema in this. Grin

Because it was a great season he had with Real Madrid. They became even the champions in the Champions League too and Benzema played a huge role in this as well.

It's true that this dominance has lasted since 2008 and only Ronaldo and Messi have always been the decorations for the Ballon d'Or winner, except in 2018 when Modric managed to transform into a player who could stop domination even if it was only for 1 season.
It would be very nice if there were other names there, but most likely it will be like that especially now that Messi and Ronaldo are actually under in terms of performance, although they are still giving good performances, they are still below Benzema or Lewandowski.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 27, 2022, 06:02:09 AM

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But at least Benzema will compete with his former partner, Cristiano Ronaldo. There are even names like, Lionel Messi, and Robert Lewandowski. Despite Real Madrid's achievements this season, the question is whether Benzema is better than the three stars above?
I predict it might be difficult for Benzema to be number 1 to win the Ballon d'Or title previously held by Lionel Messi, but maybe consider 2 or 3 positions.

Karim Benzema has successfully carved a series of sweet achievements with Real Madrid throughout the 2021-2022 season. The 2021-2022 Champions League title further confirms that Benzema deserves to win the Ballon d'Or, after previously successfully lifting the La Liga title trophy and also the Spanish Super Cup. Benzema Not only made achievements with the club, he also has a good record individually, He also achieved the status of top scorer in La Liga. Benzema is at the top of La Liga list of top scorers after registering 27 goals and 12 assists in 32 appearances. Benzema also often scored goals in crucial moments which finally brought Madrid to victory.
If you look at Benzema achievements last season, he is much better than Cristiano Ronaldo, Leonel Messi and Robert Lewandowski.

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Quote from: vennali on June 27, 2022, 08:41:00 AM

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in recent years Messi and Ronaldo have dominated the Ballon d'Or but throughout the 2021 season these two players were not so good, it was Karim Benzema's performance which was extraordinary by being able to contribute greatly to the UCL champions that Real Madrid won.
It is true that the unexpected often happens in the Ballon d'Or election but I have no doubt that Benzema will win this year and some former footballers have said the same.

Benzima had a total of 59 contributions in 46 games played with 44 goals and 15 assists in 46 games played. With goals in big games as well(Hat-trick against PSG coming back from a 1-0 loss to them). Sadio Mane, Vinicius Jr and Robert Lewandowski are other contenders but I don't think anyone has as impressive feat as Benzima. Who has been consistent throughout the year.

Usually the ones who wins Ballon d'Or is a player who has won beside the La Liga or the local Championship,also the Champions League and last time the Champions League was won by Real Madrid so most probably at a really high percentage rate the Ballon d'Or is going to Benzema.Lewandoski is a great player also scoring an insane number of goals but he lacks winning a major trophy this year beside Bundesliga so his candidature has something missing.It can happen anything at the voting but usually has happened that the player with most trophies won has also won this event.

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in recent years Messi and Ronaldo have dominated the Ballon d'Or but throughout the 2021 season these two players were not so good, it was Karim Benzema's performance which was extraordinary by being able to contribute greatly to the UCL champions that Real Madrid won.
It is true that the unexpected often happens in the Ballon d'Or election but I have no doubt that Benzema will win this year and some former footballers have said the same.

Benzima had a total of 59 contributions in 46 games played with 44 goals and 15 assists in 46 games played. With goals in big games as well(Hat-trick against PSG coming back from a 1-0 loss to them). Sadio Mane, Vinicius Jr and Robert Lewandowski are other contenders but I don't think anyone has as impressive feat as Benzima. Who has been consistent throughout the year.

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For more than ten years, Ballon d'Or has been dominated by Messi and Ronaldo. We saw Modric winning the prize four years ago which was the only time a different player winning it in this time period. However considering the previous season, I think the most deserving players are Lewandowski and Benzema. I'm a little indecisive between them but I assume that I will vote for Benzema in this. Grin

Because it was a great season he had with Real Madrid. They became even the champions in the Champions League too and Benzema played a huge role in this as well.

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We are getting interesting news these days. Barcelona have submitted an offer for Lewandowski finally seemingly. However I wonder what Bayern Munich's answer to them is going to be. They must be looking for an alternative to fill his place on one hand. But they would still do their best not to lose Lewandowski this summer. He still has one more year left on his contract and Bayern Munich can even think of forcing him to stay. I wonder if it would backfire for them too but we will see. Barcelona must be feeling confident about convincing the player at least.

I think, Lewandowski will really help Barcelona to perform better in next season because Bayern Munich will not allow he to continue after his contract, than to bring more new talented players that will handle his position very well in next season. This is the best opportunity for Barcelona managements to arrange a huge amount of money to get Lewandowski because he has a good experience in achieving goals from any competition to make their fans happy. It will be a welcome development to Barcelona, if their managements will be able to sign in Lewandowski into the team.

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Better a little late than never. It may be true that Barcelona were wrong in appointing a coach, but they managed to correct that by appointing Xavi as Koeman's replacement. This was not what they expected, where Koeman instead made this club a mess and had to be eliminated from the Champions League zone before Xavi arrived.

I think it's natural for Barcelona to choose the wrong coach, because other big teams often choose the wrong coach. The most important thing now is
that Barcelona already has Xavi as a coach, and it is proven that Xavi can lift Barcelona's performance for the better. So as you said it is better late to
make Xavi a coach than never. Actually Ronald Koeman is not a bad coach, it is proven that he has won many trophies while coaching in the Eredivisie.
Even when he was coach of Southampton, Koeman was awarded the EPL best manager 3 times. But it seems that Koeman is not suitable to
coach Barcelona, maybe Koeman will be successful if he becomes a coach in the Eredivisie again.

Overall I never considered him a bad coach but when the context relates to Barcelona there is no denying that he failed there.
Koeman is a pretty good coach but not in La Liga and Barcelona because indeed some of his decisions at Barcelona are considered controversial and this makes him even worse in the eyes of the fans. But for achievements outside of clubs other than Barcelona, he is clearly a good coach.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on June 27, 2022, 04:30:31 AM

So finally Benzema will be awarded the Ballon d'or for the wonderful play he displayed last season,he has really worked hard last season to win all the trophies he won,he has been phenomenal to his team,scoring the major goals that led them to the tittle they won.Rewarding him with the Ballon d'or is the only thing Fifa can do to compensate him.I believe with you that he is the strong favourite for the tittle.

Well for no doubt everyone would agree that Kareem benzema has been a wonderful player for real Madrid this season. Being the highest goal scorer in the la Liga satander this season and also the uefa champions league highest goal scorer for no doubt benzema has really filled a huge gap left by the living legend cr7 in real Madrid, I would say this is his best season so far as a professional footballer and deserve nothing more than the ballon dio'r as an appreciation for his good play of football..but I just want to placed out previous spectacular footballers who did well in their league but a different football tournament performance entirely was used as reference for the ballon dio'r award... tournaments like the FIFA world cup to be played this year and the current Uefa nations...so I think Kareem really need to put in all his best in this tournament if he really wants that glamorous award for his name to be among one of the great football elites like Cr7,luka modric, Lionel Messi , Ronaldo,Ronaldinho, Kaka e.t.c

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Quote from: babo on June 27, 2022, 06:56:49 AM

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But at least Benzema will compete with his former partner, Cristiano Ronaldo. There are even names like, Lionel Messi, and Robert Lewandowski. Despite Real Madrid's achievements this season, the question is whether Benzema is better than the three stars above?
I predict it might be difficult for Benzema to be number 1 to win the Ballon d'Or title previously held by Lionel Messi, but maybe consider 2 or 3 positions.

they are different players, you cannot pay them this way
they also have different characters, CR7 does not have the same character as Messi and therefore the people you have to put next to him are different
let's say that managing the champions is not easy, look at what Messi is doing in PSG .. nothing or almost nothing, because he does not feel at ease in my opinion

If we just think about the performance from the last season, I think Karim Benzema is going to be the one leading. At least that will be the case if we compare Karim Benzema, Cristiano Ronaldo, and Lionel Messi. I don’t think the performance of Lionel Messi was good at all in PSG.

Cristiano Ronaldo did perform really well but his team did not help him. As a result, it was a really bad performance from his team but the solo performance of Cristiano Ronaldo was good. And I don’t think there is anything good to say about Lionel Messi because he has not done anything really great worth mentioning in the last season. So, in my opinion, Karim Benzema has performed better if we think about the last season only.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 27, 2022, 06:02:09 AM

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It is true that in this case Benzema is clearly one of the favorites now.
La Liga's Top Scorer and his trophy and Champions League's Top Scorer and Trophy are not something that is usually taken lightly, therefore it is not wrong that he is a strong candidate now.
It would be very strange if this year he failed to get the Ballon d'Or especially there are already some legendary players who have expressed their opinion that they feel it is certain that Benzema will get the Ballon d'Or.

So finally Benzema will be awarded the Ballon d'or for the wonderful play he displayed last season,he has really worked hard last season to win all the trophies he won,he has been phenomenal to his team,scoring the major goals that led them to the tittle they won.Rewarding him with the Ballon d'or is the only thing Fifa can do to compensate him.I believe with you that he is the strong favourite for the tittle.

But at least Benzema will compete with his former partner, Cristiano Ronaldo. There are even names like, Lionel Messi, and Robert Lewandowski. Despite Real Madrid's achievements this season, the question is whether Benzema is better than the three stars above?
I predict it might be difficult for Benzema to be number 1 to win the Ballon d'Or title previously held by Lionel Messi, but maybe consider 2 or 3 positions.

For Lewandowski and Ronaldo maybe still can but I still feel that Messi right now shouldn't be that much of a favourite. His performances can be said to be ordinary in the League and it is very biased if he can return to competing in a top position and a strong candidate.
At the moment I still feel that the strong rival is Lewandowski but maybe for the Ballon d'Or there will be more drama like last season.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on June 27, 2022, 12:51:48 AM

I agree Benzema should be a candidate to win the Ballon d'Or because of his contribution with Madrid to win several titles at least 2 titles this season Laliga and UCL
But he didn't contribute to his country this year so his potential for the Ballon d'Or is low. Usually the player who wins the Ballon d'Or is the player who contributed to his team and country right?

I'm not too sure about that, it's just my opinion that Benzema is indeed the favorite for the Ballon d'Or this time. But as we can see that there is always something surprising, or players who are not actually included in our assessment instead he gets the award. I don't know why it happened, but if I had to choose I would choose Benzema for the award.

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Quote from: hahay on June 27, 2022, 03:44:00 AM

Basically Barcelona have been wrong from the start when choosing Koeman as coach, so if at that time sack him sooner and make Xavi as coach at least it can make Barcelona recover faster. Because Koeman's dismissal was very late, it was too late for Barcelona to bounce back, because now we know the good results after Xavi became coach, so we can assume that if Xavi became a coach sooner, Barcelona would be quicker to recover.

Xavi have done a big jot for the catalans this season after a lifting them from bottom of the laliga table to the second on the table. The Barca team needs a coach that knows how to manage the team, unlike the manager they hire, Ronald Koeman who didn't spent complete two sway in the club. Barcelona is a big team in the Spanish league and anyone in charge of handling the team will have some great potential because the the club is not just a random or inferior club. Where any one can be in charge of the club.

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Basically Barcelona have been wrong from the start when choosing Koeman as coach, so if at that time sack him sooner and make Xavi as coach at least it can make Barcelona recover faster. Because Koeman's dismissal was very late, it was too late for Barcelona to bounce back, because now we know the good results after Xavi became coach, so we can assume that if Xavi became a coach sooner, Barcelona would be quicker to recover.

If xavi was to be the coach to Barcelona beginning of when the started Barcelona would have been dragging position with Real Madrid and they would have been a big threat to Real madrid. As it stands now next season Barcelona will be the only team in laliga that can confront Real Madrid.

Better a little late than never. It may be true that Barcelona were wrong in appointing a coach, but they managed to correct that by appointing Xavi as Koeman's replacement. This was not what they expected, where Koeman instead made this club a mess and had to be eliminated from the Champions League zone before Xavi arrived.

I think it's natural for Barcelona to choose the wrong coach, because other big teams often choose the wrong coach. The most important thing now is
that Barcelona already has Xavi as a coach, and it is proven that Xavi can lift Barcelona's performance for the better. So as you said it is better late to
make Xavi a coach than never. Actually Ronald Koeman is not a bad coach, it is proven that he has won many trophies while coaching in the Eredivisie.
Even when he was coach of Southampton, Koeman was awarded the EPL best manager 3 times. But it seems that Koeman is not suitable to
coach Barcelona, maybe Koeman will be successful if he becomes a coach in the Eredivisie again.

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