La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4561.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on January 01, 2020, 05:33:39 AM

Quote from: Furious 7 on December 31, 2019, 08:24:00 PM

I myself saw the game of Hazard in Real Madrid was very different from in Chelsea, I prefer to see the game of Hazard in Chelsea because it gives a good performance for Chelsea so that the hazard became a lot of targets of big European clubs, but after moving to Real Madrid I did not see the danger showed what is the best performance for real madrid maybe because in real madrid there are many other rival players so that it does not contribute fully.

He was more "free" at Chelsea, something that it is not happening in Real right now.
His play style is more conservative in order to fit the moves of other players.
I don't think that he is going to be a legend at Real Madrid. On the other hand, he is going to be a Chelsea fan for sure as he achieved a lot of things with Chelsea, and will not achieve a lot with Real...

Maybe it could be a pressure on Hazard because his style of play is not so aggressive that he is more confined by opponents, in Real Madrid many core players become difficult for Hazard to play for the main so that Hazard does not dominate for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on January 01, 2020, 05:33:39 AM

Quote from: Furious 7 on December 31, 2019, 08:24:00 PM

I myself saw the game of Hazard in Real Madrid was very different from in Chelsea, I prefer to see the game of Hazard in Chelsea because it gives a good performance for Chelsea so that the hazard became a lot of targets of big European clubs, but after moving to Real Madrid I did not see the danger showed what is the best performance for real madrid maybe because in real madrid there are many other rival players so that it does not contribute fully.

He was more "free" at Chelsea, something that it is not happening in Real right now.
His play style is more conservative in order to fit the moves of other players.
I don't think that he is going to be a legend at Real Madrid. On the other hand, he is going to be a Chelsea fan for sure as he achieved a lot of things with Chelsea, and will not achieve a lot with Real...

He must go through that adaptation period.
No one can get into this team right away, you know that, and we need time to see old Hazard smash the defense.
And we can't say anything about his success right now because he's a relatively young player.
And if anyone who can help him reach the European top is Real Madrid, Chelsea couldn't.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on December 31, 2019, 08:24:00 PM

I myself saw the game of Hazard in Real Madrid was very different from in Chelsea, I prefer to see the game of Hazard in Chelsea because it gives a good performance for Chelsea so that the hazard became a lot of targets of big European clubs, but after moving to Real Madrid I did not see the danger showed what is the best performance for real madrid maybe because in real madrid there are many other rival players so that it does not contribute fully.

He was more "free" at Chelsea, something that it is not happening in Real right now.
His play style is more conservative in order to fit the moves of other players.
I don't think that he is going to be a legend at Real Madrid. On the other hand, he is going to be a Chelsea fan for sure as he achieved a lot of things with Chelsea, and will not achieve a lot with Real...

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Quote from: Maotezi on December 31, 2019, 05:37:19 AM

In my opinion, all the players on the team are looking to show their individual quality, no one is watching the team.
In Ronlald's time it was different, they did not accidentally win the Champions League 3 times in a row.
Now players are looking at a price jump on the market, their results are not important, as we can see.

Ronaldo was exceptional, a legend, who will never be forgotten and am lucky to have witnessed him at Real Madrid. However, i don't expect Hazard to be like Ronaldo, i expect him to build his own legacy and his own name. I know he will never be like Ronaldo but if he plays like the way he plays for Belgium or he used to play for Chelsea, he will be so instrumental in Real Madrid. He will be a Real Madrid Great just like Figo, Raul, Zidane etc

As a true Real Madrid fan, i refuse to expect him to break Cristiano's records... realistically, it can't happen,he's 28+ already.

I myself saw the game of Hazard in Real Madrid was very different from in Chelsea, I prefer to see the game of Hazard in Chelsea because it gives a good performance for Chelsea so that the hazard became a lot of targets of big European clubs, but after moving to Real Madrid I did not see the danger showed what is the best performance for real madrid maybe because in real madrid there are many other rival players so that it does not contribute fully.

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Quote from: Maotezi on December 31, 2019, 05:37:19 AM

In my opinion, all the players on the team are looking to show their individual quality, no one is watching the team.
In Ronlald's time it was different, they did not accidentally win the Champions League 3 times in a row.
Now players are looking at a price jump on the market, their results are not important, as we can see.

Ronaldo was exceptional, a legend, who will never be forgotten and am lucky to have witnessed him at Real Madrid. However, i don't expect Hazard to be like Ronaldo, i expect him to build his own legacy and his own name. I know he will never be like Ronaldo but if he plays like the way he plays for Belgium or he used to play for Chelsea, he will be so instrumental in Real Madrid. He will be a Real Madrid Great just like Figo, Raul, Zidane etc

As a true Real Madrid fan, i refuse to expect him to break Cristiano's records... realistically, it can't happen,he's 28+ already.

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Quote from: Maotezi on December 30, 2019, 12:08:51 PM

Did you hear the news about Neymar?
In short, Suarez wrapped them in guests where Messi, Alba, Busquets were
And the main topic was about the Neymar return to Barcelona.
I completely agree that Neymar needs to go to Barcelona if he is planning to win the Champions League, because realistically in PSG he cannot.
Tandem Grizman and Neymar sounds fantastic to me.
To you?

I don't think if Neymar returns to Barcelona that will happen this season. Because Barca had spent a lot of money to bring Griezman. This could have happened in the 2020/2021 season. However, Neymar is no longer a young player for the current size. Better Barcelona just bring sterling from Man City.

Neymar was scored by Barcelona to PSG with a very high bandrol, even the highest sales for Barcelona at the time, so I think it's also difficult to return Neymar Jr to Barcelona again.
Neymar is currently only 27 years old and that young age may still be idle in his game, but is it true that PSG will just let go of Neymar?

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Quote from: Maotezi on December 30, 2019, 12:08:51 PM

Did you hear the news about Neymar?
In short, Suarez wrapped them in guests where Messi, Alba, Busquets were
And the main topic was about the Neymar return to Barcelona.
I completely agree that Neymar needs to go to Barcelona if he is planning to win the Champions League, because realistically in PSG he cannot.
Tandem Grizman and Neymar sounds fantastic to me.
To you?

I don't think if Neymar returns to Barcelona that will happen this season. Because Barca had spent a lot of money to bring Griezman. This could have happened in the 2020/2021 season. However, Neymar is no longer a young player for the current size. Better Barcelona just bring sterling from Man City.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on December 31, 2019, 12:39:34 AM

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Quote from: swogerino on December 30, 2019, 03:38:00 AM

Real Madrid is not the same without Cristiano.The fact that they couldn’t beat Athletic Bilbao is a good indicator of that.The forwarders like Benzema and Bale are not performing like they did when Cristiano was playing.I think that Hazard needs a bit more time to feel comfortable with the way Real plays and then we will see a new Real Madrid.

If you had watched the last matches before getting injured recently. He had actually started playing much better and developing a good chemistry between him and Benzema plus Marcelo. Hopefully he won't get lots of injuries after he is back, like the way Bale used to be.

Of course, after all of his recovery and playing again with Real Madrid I am sure he will make a good contribution again, his game is quite agile in my opinion so I want him to compete again as soon as possible.
I like the Eden Hazzard game when I'm on the field.

In my opinion, all the players on the team are looking to show their individual quality, no one is watching the team.
In Ronlald's time it was different, they did not accidentally win the Champions League 3 times in a row.
Now players are looking at a price jump on the market, their results are not important, as we can see.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 30, 2019, 03:38:00 AM

Real Madrid is not the same without Cristiano.The fact that they couldn’t beat Athletic Bilbao is a good indicator of that.The forwarders like Benzema and Bale are not performing like they did when Cristiano was playing.I think that Hazard needs a bit more time to feel comfortable with the way Real plays and then we will see a new Real Madrid.

If you had watched the last matches before getting injured recently. He had actually started playing much better and developing a good chemistry between him and Benzema plus Marcelo. Hopefully he won't get lots of injuries after he is back, like the way Bale used to be.

Of course, after all of his recovery and playing again with Real Madrid I am sure he will make a good contribution again, his game is quite agile in my opinion so I want him to compete again as soon as possible.
I like the Eden Hazzard game when I'm on the field.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 30, 2019, 03:38:00 AM

Real Madrid is not the same without Cristiano.The fact that they couldn’t beat Athletic Bilbao is a good indicator of that.The forwarders like Benzema and Bale are not performing like they did when Cristiano was playing.I think that Hazard needs a bit more time to feel comfortable with the way Real plays and then we will see a new Real Madrid.

If you had watched the last matches before getting injured recently. He had actually started playing much better and developing a good chemistry between him and Benzema plus Marcelo. Hopefully he won't get lots of injuries after he is back, like the way Bale used to be.

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Quote from: Sterbens on December 30, 2019, 12:20:40 PM

Quote from: Maotezi on December 30, 2019, 12:08:51 PM

Did you hear the news about Neymar?
In short, Suarez wrapped them in guests where Messi, Alba, Busquets were
And the main topic was about the Neymar return to Barcelona.
I completely agree that Neymar needs to go to Barcelona if he is planning to win the Champions League, because realistically in PSG he cannot.
Tandem Grizman and Neymar sounds fantastic to me.
To you?

I do not know about the rumors even I did a search on Google did not find that link.
I think Barcelona are already strong enough in this front of Suarez, Messi and Griezmann for me to be quite perfect and the game is beautiful when watching.
While Neyman did not contribute to Barcelona, Neymar was resold to PSG.

Okay, that's what the five of them were saying nothing is signed or final, but I disagree that Grizman is good to be in the top 11 in Barcelona, as isemen is good and the three of them are down.
Maybe if they win the Champions League, so I change my mind, but until then I think Neymar needs that old Barcelona from 2016.

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Quote from: jostorres on December 30, 2019, 10:30:14 AM

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the average player who moves (from the Premier League (English) to the La Liga (Spanish) is a very good player, not an easy job to be able to join and play with Real Madrid. I see Bale hasn't made a big contribution to Real Madrid (compared to Cristiano Ronaldo). hopefully, in the following year, Bale is able to show his big contribution to Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Maotezi on December 30, 2019, 12:08:51 PM

Did you hear the news about Neymar?
In short, Suarez wrapped them in guests where Messi, Alba, Busquets were
And the main topic was about the Neymar return to Barcelona.
I completely agree that Neymar needs to go to Barcelona if he is planning to win the Champions League, because realistically in PSG he cannot.
Tandem Grizman and Neymar sounds fantastic to me.
To you?

I do not know about the rumors even I did a search on Google did not find that link.
I think Barcelona are already strong enough in this front of Suarez, Messi and Griezmann for me to be quite perfect and the game is beautiful when watching.
While Neyman did not contribute to Barcelona, Neymar was resold to PSG.

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Did you hear the news about Neymar?
In short, Suarez wrapped them in guests where Messi, Alba, Busquets were
And the main topic was about the Neymar return to Barcelona.
I completely agree that Neymar needs to go to Barcelona if he is planning to win the Champions League, because realistically in PSG he cannot.
Tandem Grizman and Neymar sounds fantastic to me.
To you?

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Quote from: jostorres on December 30, 2019, 10:30:14 AM

Bale is still good? I mean I can understand that he is not as good as Christiano Ronaldo that is sure but Gareth Bale is one of the best players in the world right now, just because he is not the GOAT or around those levels doesn't mean he is not playing well. Zidane may not like him, or even the fans but dude is a good player, he single handly won that Champions league cup against Liverpool on their last run, just because he had few bad games doesn't make him bad.

However, if they end up getting Sterling, that would basically be the greatest improvement they could ever hope for, and that is basically the show of how rich and powerful Real is, there are thousands of teams all around the world who would want Sterling but only handful could afford it so easily.

I agree with you. Not many players who started their careers in the English league and then succeeded when playing in the Spanish league. Because there are vast differences in how the two leagues play football. However, Bale became one of the players who was very successful in adapting and showing his class while at Real Madrid. Bale is not really liked just because of communication problems. He can't speak Spanish.
Is sterling the latest Real Madrid transfer issue? this is really interesting.

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Quote from: skarais on December 30, 2019, 11:23:30 AM

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IMO, Zidane can only prioritize players who can contribute greatly to each match played. As far as I know, Bale is indeed one of the quality players but he is not Zidane priority to be played regularly. I dont think sterling will be suitable for Real Madrid, but is a club economic situation makes it possible to buy anyone if they want. But Zidane probably wont add to the strikers stock in the upcoming transfer window, as I can read in some sports media.

Zidane only relied on Benzema on the front lines which continued to be played meant Benzema continued to contribute to himself, while Gareth Bale was only on the bench and only played in the second half.
Actually there are many good Madrid players but no taste what the coach expects so that if it doesn't match Real Madrid will look for players again.

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Quote from: jostorres on December 30, 2019, 10:30:14 AM

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IMO, Zidane can only prioritize players who can contribute greatly to each match played. As far as I know, Bale is indeed one of the quality players but he is not Zidane priority to be played regularly. I dont think sterling will be suitable for Real Madrid, but is a club economic situation makes it possible to buy anyone if they want. But Zidane probably wont add to the strikers stock in the upcoming transfer window, as I can read in some sports media.

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Bale is still good? I mean I can understand that he is not as good as Christiano Ronaldo that is sure but Gareth Bale is one of the best players in the world right now, just because he is not the GOAT or around those levels doesn't mean he is not playing well. Zidane may not like him, or even the fans but dude is a good player, he single handly won that Champions league cup against Liverpool on their last run, just because he had few bad games doesn't make him bad.

However, if they end up getting Sterling, that would basically be the greatest improvement they could ever hope for, and that is basically the show of how rich and powerful Real is, there are thousands of teams all around the world who would want Sterling but only handful could afford it so easily.

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Christiano is a good player, he is a great player, he is one of the best who ever played this game, but he is human in the end and he gets old and there are 11 players on the pitch. I don't get how a team wouldn't build around him while he is there so when he leaves the team would still be amazing. They literally won 3 champions league in a row, they are one of the most expensive teams and they make so much profit that they can literally buy a player for 200 million straight and still wouldn't hurt them. They tried to get Bale to become the new Ronaldo but he was just too stick to his style and couldn't provide that, now they have Hazard and he plays in a more premier league way where it requires more running instead of La Liga which is more passing.

I still think Real has a chance to win the league if they recover but in order to recover they need a manager that will play the players how players want not the way coach wants them to play, if you force players into a role they are not comfortable with, you are not going to be happy about it.

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Quote from: bassbity on December 30, 2019, 04:09:49 AM

Quote from: swogerino on December 30, 2019, 03:38:00 AM

Real Madrid is not the same without Cristiano.The fact that they couldn’t beat Athletic Bilbao is a good indicator of that.The forwarders like Benzema and Bale are not performing like they did when Cristiano was playing.I think that Hazard needs a bit more time to feel comfortable with the way Real plays and then we will see a new Real Madrid.

Eden Hazard might need more adaptation to Real Madrid because his game was very different at the EPL when Hazard at Chelsea played better at Chelsea than at Real Madrid.
In my opinion, only Benzema is still contributing to the present despite the absence of Ronaldo's residence, and for Gareth Bale he is still unsure.

Of course Real is not the same without Cristiano, no club in the world can instantly find replacement for player like him.

Regarding Benzema I actually think that he is playing maybe the best football of his career. For me he is the one (maybe only one) who stepped up and filled part of the gap left by Cristiano shadow.

Bale is a different story, that guy obviously has some deeper issues with Real. He didn't make any effort to adjust to his new club and he is now in Real for about 6 years (maybe, didn't check). Still doesn't speak a word of Spanish. I just don't get that kind of not caring about your fellow players and supporters. That is not just being lazy to learn new language that is actively protesting to learn it. Hell, after few weeks in some county I already start speaking at least few simple sentences.

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