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In terms of quality the comparison between the two is very different because Mbappe is much more experienced and has a lot of playing time.
Alvarez still needs game time so that he can improve and that will develop even more when he can play regularly in the team.
Being a substitute will not make his performance better, like when he played at Manchester City.
Therefore Alvarez needs to get more game time so that his skills can improve.

Mbappe has been a great player for both club and country, so comparing the two is not fair and Mbappe is certainly superior in many ways.
Of course these two players cannot be compared, there are significant differences between the two but both are equally quality players who are likely to be able to contribute greatly to their respective teams.
Julián Álvarez will be able to contribute greatly to Atletico Madrid and Mbappe to Real Madrid.

I think right now especially Mbappe's transfer is very exaggerated so that there are high expectations for his performance with Real Madrid so that many people forget that Mbappe also needs time to adapt to his new team, so I think we just have to wait for the time for Mbappe to develop.
Surely, both Álvarez and Mbappé are outstanding athletes. TYet, Álvarez is still settling at Atletico. He hasnt exactly set the world on fire yet. Mbappé tells a different story. Even with all the drama surrounding his transfer, the kid's got game. He's already showing signs of fitting in at Real Madrid, and that recent brace? Pure class.

Bellingham's back as well. His link with Mbappé could be exceptional. Real Madrid's offensive might reach entirely fresh dimensions. Thus, indeed, Mbappé is the focus of all eyes. Still, the true difference will come from his settling in at true Madrid. Should he continue to grow on this early success, we might find ourselves in a season where he at last finds those club trophies he has been after. And that, my friends, would be huge for Real Madrid.
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Mbappe scored 2 goals last weekend when Real Madrid won 2-0 over Real Betis.
Mbappe's situation which has been criticized a lot in the last few matches made him prove his 2 goals and I think after Mbappe did that then there is no problem now, Mbappe is a player who has quite good quality so it is likely that if he is able to strengthen his chemistry with other Madrid players then there will be many other goals that Mbappe can score.

Madrid's problems at the beginning of this season I think do not need to be considered too exaggerated because they have everything to be able to rise, they have the best players and they have the best coach.

Kylian Mbappé score first two goals into La Liga game against Real Betis with having his good start after joining from PSG because he plays five games and score in two games mean things are on track for his dream transfer and good career here at the Real Madrid even there were some talk before this game because we have three games without any goal, but these things are normal.

Due to having some condition's adjustment we have no ideal start so it's all part of the game but now most chances we will have good results in coming matches as well because he is the quality player, and we can expect good competition for the top spot in goalscorers list against many other quality players those are doing good job in La Liga.

Now after break we will have good start for him because we are also having start of the Champions League which is dream of Mbappé so we will have another era in his career as he will be in limelight for having good performance in these games as well.
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Mbappe has proven before that he is a devastating player. When he left PSG to sign for Real Madrid, we assumed he could break all the records in Europe. If Mbappe is fit for Real Madrid then there is no need to substitute any other player in his place as he is a very strong player and should have no problem playing full time. However, Real Madrid should keep a suitable player as his replacement with the thought that the unexpected may happen. If Mbappé is ever injured or if he is unable to play due to his problems, then the substitute player should be able to perform well in his place. Joselu is at Real Madrid and could be a worthy substitute for Mbappe.
Kylian Mbappe is not the kind of player one can just write off just like that, don't forget how he and his French team mates won the world cup and still went on to play in the next finals, I think Mbappe has achieved so much for a player of his age though he hasn't won the champions league and has tried so many times with PSG which  was one of the reasons he left to Real Madrid to try his luck over there in Spain, we expect things to work out well for him and perhaps when he begins to adapt properly to the Spanish Laliga, then he would be able to prove all his critics wrong.
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Madrid has a very perfect squad, even before Mbappe came to join Madrid, Ancelotti team was able to perform very consistently. And now Mbappe arrival provides additional strength to the attack line and he still needs time to adapt to the competition in La Liga. So it is only natural that he was only able to contribute a score in yesterday's match and I am sure, the longer he stays in Madrid, Mbappe will become a reliable player with a big name and gain a lot of experience. With the arrival of Mbappe, Madrid has the opportunity to continue fighting for titles in every competition and this season they should be able to get the treble winner title.
Mbappe scored 2 goals last weekend when Real Madrid won 2-0 over Real Betis.
Mbappe's situation which has been criticized a lot in the last few matches made him prove his 2 goals and I think after Mbappe did that then there is no problem now, Mbappe is a player who has quite good quality so it is likely that if he is able to strengthen his chemistry with other Madrid players then there will be many other goals that Mbappe can score.

Madrid's problems at the beginning of this season I think do not need to be considered too exaggerated because they have everything to be able to rise, they have the best players and they have the best coach.
There is nothing wrong with demanding Mbappe to perform optimally because gradually the demands will be met over time, what is often unreasonable is demanding in a short time as if Mbappe does not need to adapt. According to ESPN's report when asking Mbappe several questions, he immediately answered "The next goals will come. Three games (without scoring) are too many for me, but it's okay, I have the trust of my teammates". This shows that the motivation to continue trying to score goals is getting higher, I hope he can prove his quality and words.
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I don't think Mbappe will need much time to adapt in Madrid. Mbappe always gets the chance to play from Ancelotti. That's good for him and I see him starting to feel comfortable working with his team. Especially the connection with attacking players like Vinicius and Rodrygo. It's important to maintain harmony in the team and that will really help Mbappe on the pitch.
Of course, there are high hopes and expectations from fans for Mbappe. He is currently one of the best players in the world. Even his transfer news is always big news. Of course, we haven't forgotten how Mbappe's transfer drama was in several seasons.
With the presence of other starlets, it was argued that Kylian Mbappe will not explore in Real Madrid, but come to think of it, Mbappe nets a brace in their last La Liga game before the international break, there’s more signs coming up for the attacker to deliver even more than the former striker, Karim Benzema. Moving to Real Madrid was not a mistake, rather one of the best decision made by the Frenchman regarding his football career. Real Madrid coach, Carlo Ancelloti is master planner, he knows what to do for growth and accomplishments of success for Los Blancos. Kylian Mbappe is yet to meet his peak in his new club. Real Madrid will reinstated the basic necessities for the improvement of the club.
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It is natural that most Real Madrid supporters place high demands and expectations on Mbappe, but as explained by many friends in this thread. The point is adaptation, and that is what Mbappe is doing at Real Madrid and Ancelotti must understand the current condition of his players and I am sure that as a great coach Don Carlo will definitely find a way to restore Mbappe's best performance. Here we are just waiting quietly to enjoy the process and give full support to this great player, be sure Mbappe will make many achievements with Real Madrid in the future.

I don't think Mbappe will need much time to adapt in Madrid. Mbappe always gets the chance to play from Ancelotti. That's good for him and I see him starting to feel comfortable working with his team. Especially the connection with attacking players like Vinicius and Rodrygo. It's important to maintain harmony in the team and that will really help Mbappe on the pitch.
Of course, there are high hopes and expectations from fans for Mbappe. He is currently one of the best players in the world. Even his transfer news is always big news. Of course, we haven't forgotten how Mbappe's transfer drama was in several seasons.

What I see is that Ancelotti has quite high expectations for Mbappe, as proven when Mbappe had not yet scored a goal in his first 3 matches, Ancelotti still had great confidence in him (Mbappe is always a starter and he is also always the last person to be taken off the field). That faith has paid off, he has already scored 2 goals, and now he just needs to look for more goals in every match. It might not be that smooth because he is still in the process of adapting. But once he gets comfortable in his new position, and gets a stronger bond with his teammates, he will become a goalscoring machine for Real Madrid.
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It is natural that most Real Madrid supporters place high demands and expectations on Mbappe, but as explained by many friends in this thread. The point is adaptation, and that is what Mbappe is doing at Real Madrid and Ancelotti must understand the current condition of his players and I am sure that as a great coach Don Carlo will definitely find a way to restore Mbappe's best performance. Here we are just waiting quietly to enjoy the process and give full support to this great player, be sure Mbappe will make many achievements with Real Madrid in the future.

I don't think Mbappe will need much time to adapt in Madrid. Mbappe always gets the chance to play from Ancelotti. That's good for him and I see him starting to feel comfortable working with his team. Especially the connection with attacking players like Vinicius and Rodrygo. It's important to maintain harmony in the team and that will really help Mbappe on the pitch.
Of course, there are high hopes and expectations from fans for Mbappe. He is currently one of the best players in the world. Even his transfer news is always big news. Of course, we haven't forgotten how Mbappe's transfer drama was in several seasons.
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His big name makes us have very high expectations for Mbappe, even though he is also like other players who need time to adapt. For now I see him still fine, he had difficulties at the beginning but after that he gradually played well and was able to score a goal for Real Madrid's victory in the last match they played.
Actually, overall Real Madrid has a squad that can be said to be even, when they rotate there are still players on the bench who also have good abilities. Ancelotti is also a good coach, so I assume they will slowly show who they really are. This is also still early in the season where they are still looking for their best form.

Mbappe is certainly a great, or rather a very great player, Real Madrid has made a wise purchase. Honestly I expected more but you are definitely right.
He must first settle in and understand how the game works in the team, he must understand how to fit in: he's okay with it.
In any case, everyone expects great things from him.
It is natural that most Real Madrid supporters place high demands and expectations on Mbappe, but as explained by many friends in this thread. The point is adaptation, and that is what Mbappe is doing at Real Madrid and Ancelotti must understand the current condition of his players and I am sure that as a great coach Don Carlo will definitely find a way to restore Mbappe's best performance. Here we are just waiting quietly to enjoy the process and give full support to this great player, be sure Mbappe will make many achievements with Real Madrid in the future.
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Mbappe has proven before that he is a devastating player. When he left PSG to sign for Real Madrid, we assumed he could break all the records in Europe. If Mbappe is fit for Real Madrid then there is no need to substitute any other player in his place as he is a very strong player and should have no problem playing full time. However, Real Madrid should keep a suitable player as his replacement with the thought that the unexpected may happen. If Mbappé is ever injured or if he is unable to play due to his problems, then the substitute player should be able to perform well in his place. Joselu is at Real Madrid and could be a worthy substitute for Mbappe.
You write like someone who's got great admiration for Kylian Mbappe and for a footballer who's achieved the things he's been able to get at his current age, it's normal to attract such level of admiration from football fans. That being said, Kylian Mbappe is currently Real Madrid's first choice striker and will always feature in the starting line up unless he's injured or the manager decides to rest him. For Joselu, his time at Real Madrid have come and gone as he was the one that opted to leave the club after his incredible performance with the club last season. Kylian Mbappe have a protege in Endrick who also plays in that top 9 position so he'll always be called upon whenever Kylian Mbappe isn't available
Till Mbappe leaves Real Madrid, he would remain the top s tee iker and first choice of Ancelotti because he is the best currently in the club and Ancelotti will improve his performance overtime. Mbappe was the dream of Real Madrid and there he is and I believe that he would make them proud with his performance and help them win more trophies to the ones that they already have. Real Madrid is a trophy house.
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His big name makes us have very high expectations for Mbappe, even though he is also like other players who need time to adapt. For now I see him still fine, he had difficulties at the beginning but after that he gradually played well and was able to score a goal for Real Madrid's victory in the last match they played.
Actually, overall Real Madrid has a squad that can be said to be even, when they rotate there are still players on the bench who also have good abilities. Ancelotti is also a good coach, so I assume they will slowly show who they really are. This is also still early in the season where they are still looking for their best form.

Mbappe is certainly a great, or rather a very great player, Real Madrid has made a wise purchase. Honestly I expected more but you are definitely right.
He must first settle in and understand how the game works in the team, he must understand how to fit in: he's okay with it.
In any case, everyone expects great things from him.
Previously Mbappe has  proven that he is one of the great strikers at PSG so it is not surprising that he is being fought over by many big teams even though at that time his price was quite expensive, so Madrid is very lucky to be able to get him for free this season because Mbappe has the desire to play for Madrid, His achievement as PSG top scorer certainly proves that he is a very great striker, but for now I think he still needs time to adapt to the Madrid and La Liga games, so when Ancelotti and Madrid can be patient with Mbappe at this time, shouldn't the fans also have to Be patient for Mbappe to return to his best performance as a striker at the moment?
I think with the two goals scored by Mbappe in the previous match, we might see him show his best performance again now and become Madrid's mainstay in every match they have in the later.
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Indeed, the cases of Alvarez and Mbappe are almost the same, they have not been able to adapt well to the playing style of each club. But at least in the last match, Mbappe was able to do it. Yes, they need to adjust, although we are quite worried about why it takes a long time. Just like Mbappe, Atletico Madrid fans also have very high hopes for this player.

This is what Alvarez said and comment about his adaptation:

Source: Julián Álvarez speaks up

I don't know if it's possible to compare the situations of Mbappe and Alvarez. Mbappe changed one attacking team for another, and Alvarez moved from a team obsessed with ball control to a team obsessed with controlling the opponent (primarily breaking up the opponent's attack, controlling zones, tactical fouls, etc.). Maybe there are some similarities for Alvarez, but judging by his words, he understands what pain is during adaptation  Grin
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Seeing the support of the Madrid squad for Mbappe was clearly visible in the Real Betis match that Vinicius Junior gave his Penalty Kick for Mbappe so that Real Madrid fans and of course Mbappe proved to everyone that he deserves to be in Madrid, we know that the adaptation of each player usually takes a long time, depending on how the player adapts, some are fast, some are slow, so at least give him time to adapt to the La Liga style of play which is difficult for players from the French League.
Mbappe has been in the right team for his career because a coach like Ancelotti will definitely give him more time to play and adapt to his teammates at Real Madrid, but for the victory over Real Betis I think it was just a good start for Mbappe and also the other players because previously Real Madrid had drawn. But for the next match at Real Sociedad's home, Real Madrid must also play as well as possible in order to win because if they continue to lag behind their rivals Barcelona it will be increasingly difficult for Real Madrid to catch up on their points in the standings.
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Mbappe scored 2 goals last weekend when Real Madrid won 2-0 over Real Betis.
Mbappe's situation which has been criticized a lot in the last few matches made him prove his 2 goals and I think after Mbappe did that then there is no problem now, Mbappe is a player who has quite good quality so it is likely that if he is able to strengthen his chemistry with other Madrid players then there will be many other goals that Mbappe can score.

Madrid's problems at the beginning of this season I think do not need to be considered too exaggerated because they have everything to be able to rise, they have the best players and they have the best coach.

one of the two goals scored by Mbappe through the white spot, usually the players who execute the penalty are the Brazilian duo. but apart from that, he did score two goals in last week's match. Mbappe is a player who has above average abilities, his skills are unquestionable. the problem in my opinion is not a matter of chemistry, but the system and pattern applied by Don Carlo. we can see in the four matches they played, Ancelotti is trying the ideal pattern. this is done so that the players can synergize with each other, especially for newcomers, namely Mbappe and Endrick. we will all agree when talking about the depth of players owned by Real Madrid, almost most of them have skills above the average of the opposing team's players. theoretically Real Madrid is a solid team, but in practice it usually requires a little adjustment. especially for newcomers. well, therefore let's also look forward to Real Madrid's performance next week. their opponents are Sociedad and if Madrid players play solidly, I am sure many of us will predict them to win the match.
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Madrid has a pretty good attack line at the moment to face tough competition in La Liga and also the Champions League, the addition of players like Mbappe will of course make them have a better front line and I think for now the Los Galaticos squad that has been built by Madrid is complete and ready to compete in the championship trophy competition, Madrid at the start of this season is not going well but I think this will not hinder their chances of winning La Liga because as far as La Liga still has many matches to be played, Mbappe managed to score two goals in Madrid's last match after three matches without any goal contribution at all, but I think as the previous top scorer for PSG of course Mbappe will slowly find his performance and sharpness in scoring goals again  for madrid squad.
Madrid has a very perfect squad, even before Mbappe came to join Madrid, Ancelotti team was able to perform very consistently. And now Mbappe arrival provides additional strength to the attack line and he still needs time to adapt to the competition in La Liga. So it is only natural that he was only able to contribute a score in yesterday's match and I am sure, the longer he stays in Madrid, Mbappe will become a reliable player with a big name and gain a lot of experience. With the arrival of Mbappe, Madrid has the opportunity to continue fighting for titles in every competition and this season they should be able to get the treble winner title.
Mbappe scored 2 goals last weekend when Real Madrid won 2-0 over Real Betis.
Mbappe's situation which has been criticized a lot in the last few matches made him prove his 2 goals and I think after Mbappe did that then there is no problem now, Mbappe is a player who has quite good quality so it is likely that if he is able to strengthen his chemistry with other Madrid players then there will be many other goals that Mbappe can score.

Madrid's problems at the beginning of this season I think do not need to be considered too exaggerated because they have everything to be able to rise, they have the best players and they have the best coach.
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His big name makes us have very high expectations for Mbappe, even though he is also like other players who need time to adapt. For now I see him still fine, he had difficulties at the beginning but after that he gradually played well and was able to score a goal for Real Madrid's victory in the last match they played.
Actually, overall Real Madrid has a squad that can be said to be even, when they rotate there are still players on the bench who also have good abilities. Ancelotti is also a good coach, so I assume they will slowly show who they really are. This is also still early in the season where they are still looking for their best form.

Mbappe is certainly a great, or rather a very great player, Real Madrid has made a wise purchase. Honestly I expected more but you are definitely right.
He must first settle in and understand how the game works in the team, he must understand how to fit in: he's okay with it.
In any case, everyone expects great things from him.
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Mbappe has proven before that he is a devastating player. When he left PSG to sign for Real Madrid, we assumed he could break all the records in Europe. If Mbappe is fit for Real Madrid then there is no need to substitute any other player in his place as he is a very strong player and should have no problem playing full time. However, Real Madrid should keep a suitable player as his replacement with the thought that the unexpected may happen. If Mbappé is ever injured or if he is unable to play due to his problems, then the substitute player should be able to perform well in his place. Joselu is at Real Madrid and could be a worthy substitute for Mbappe.
You write like someone who's got great admiration for Kylian Mbappe and for a footballer who's achieved the things he's been able to get at his current age, it's normal to attract such level of admiration from football fans. That being said, Kylian Mbappe is currently Real Madrid's first choice striker and will always feature in the starting line up unless he's injured or the manager decides to rest him. For Joselu, his time at Real Madrid have come and gone as he was the one that opted to leave the club after his incredible performance with the club last season. Kylian Mbappe have a protege in Endrick who also plays in that top 9 position so he'll always be called upon whenever Kylian Mbappe isn't available
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Mbappe has proven before that he is a devastating player. When he left PSG to sign for Real Madrid, we assumed he could break all the records in Europe. If Mbappe is fit for Real Madrid then there is no need to substitute any other player in his place as he is a very strong player and should have no problem playing full time. However, Real Madrid should keep a suitable player as his replacement with the thought that the unexpected may happen. If Mbappé is ever injured or if he is unable to play due to his problems, then the substitute player should be able to perform well in his place. Joselu is at Real Madrid and could be a worthy substitute for Mbappe.

mbappe will continue to be a star player that he is just because is not meeting peoples expectations does not mean that his not great a player and if you actually watch real Madrid's game you will see that Mmbappe have been doing a great job and have been making a lot of attempts and just that he needs more time to get a good coordination on how to score i think that onw will be better so all he needs now is encouragement from the coach and the same time he needs more time also, substituting him for other players wont be a nice idea because if might even affect is metal health they should just give the time he needs, we know that with or without him Madrid is an excellent club and they have been doing it without mbappe but since the young man wants to build his career and he can do it since Madrid have excellent players too.

since the time of Ronaldo in real Madrid i have always loved them and then the era of Benzema came and now mbappe must have made Ronaldo his role model because countless times' he has been doing the Ronaldo celebration. mbappe his going to be great player that is one assurance that people have in him his young and also talented and the fact that real Madrid got him on a free transfer makes mbappe a good asset for them because they will defiantly sell him with a high price and that is for sure and even they are selling am sure the Saudi guys will come for him since he has the name and he is also talented.
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In terms of quality the comparison between the two is very different because Mbappe is much more experienced and has a lot of playing time.
Alvarez still needs game time so that he can improve and that will develop even more when he can play regularly in the team.
Being a substitute will not make his performance better, like when he played at Manchester City.
Therefore Alvarez needs to get more game time so that his skills can improve.

Mbappe has been a great player for both club and country, so comparing the two is not fair and Mbappe is certainly superior in many ways.
Of course these two players cannot be compared, there are significant differences between the two but both are equally quality players who are likely to be able to contribute greatly to their respective teams.
Julián Álvarez will be able to contribute greatly to Atletico Madrid and Mbappe to Real Madrid.

I think right now especially Mbappe's transfer is very exaggerated so that there are high expectations for his performance with Real Madrid so that many people forget that Mbappe also needs time to adapt to his new team, so I think we just have to wait for the time for Mbappe to develop.
Seeing the support of the Madrid squad for Mbappe was clearly visible in the Real Betis match that Vinicius Junior gave his Penalty Kick for Mbappe so that Real Madrid fans and of course Mbappe proved to everyone that he deserves to be in Madrid, we know that the adaptation of each player usually takes a long time, depending on how the player adapts, some are fast, some are slow, so at least give him time to adapt to the La Liga style of play which is difficult for players from the French League.
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Since he was first brought in from Manchester City and has played 4 matches but Julian Alvarez has yet to score his debut goal with Atletico, could he fail here? surely many of us are questioning his performance under Diego Simeone and unlike being trained by Pep Guardiola he can always score goals even though he comes off the bench.

Maybe Julian Alvarez is still adapting to the new league and unlike before he should have no trouble at all. Like Mbappe there will definitely be a time for Julian Alvarez to score his first goal and I hope he can give great expectations to the fans considering Morata left so he is Atletico's hope at this time.

I don't understand Simeone about why he even started with Alvarez instead of Sørloth against Athletic Bilbao.  Huh  He was performing way better you know. If you have a better performer then you should give them more chances. Alvarez has played horrible since he signed for Atletico Madrid. It seems like he has some serious adaptation problems.

It is so early in the season maybe but if Alvarez keeps playing like this his end wouldn't be much different than Felix. I believe Sørloth should be given a chance in the starting lineup for now together with Griezmann in the attacking line. They would be a more effective duo.  Wink
The problem is Atletico has spent a lot of money to recruit him from Manchester City and for a bench player, it feels like the cost of 80m euros is not worth it. Atletico should be able to negotiate a much lower fee but on the other hand Atletico have no other choice if Julian Alvarez is the desired piece to strengthen the attack line.

But yes as we know it still doesn't mean anything for a month and maybe what you suggest is right if Simione has to dare to give his trust to Sorloth to fill the striker position for now. Sorloth is a hole player and not only that he has a taller posture and has a good header for aerial duels. Let's wait and see if Sorloth will be played when Atletico hosts Sevilla in the fifth jornada.
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This is what Alvarez said and comment about his adaptation:
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As for Alvarez, I still doubt his talent. At Man City, coach Pep Guardiola only wants to keep the Argentine striker as a backup plan. As for the national team, I have not seen any outstanding achievements from Alvarez. I am really worried and skeptical about this expensive €81 million contract that has not yet been proven. Alvarez needs to show more to prove his worth.
It is natural to doubt his true abilities, especially until now, his abilities have not really been proven. Indeed, a talent must continue to be honed and in the world of football, there must be proof to assess that the purchase is worth it and makes sense.

Scoring 2 goals in the last match I think is enough to prove Mbappe's quality and regarding the chemistry between players not being too strong I think it is normal because Mbappe has just joined the team which of course needs time to adapt.
Yes, and there are many fun things that we can see from Real Madrid's match yesterday. Especially how Vini JR gave a penalty kick to Mbappe, even though he was the one who was fouled. He was not selfish in this case. and on the other hand, Mbappe could really take advantage of this opportunity to win. The cooperation between Mbappe and the entire Real Madrid squad is at least getting better.


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At least, Mbappe said, he and Vini JR are still trying to understand and get to know each other again.
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