La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 549.

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Quote from: snipie on August 26, 2024, 10:48:17 AM

Quote from: TelolettOm on August 26, 2024, 10:39:42 AM

In some sites, actually, Mbappe's rating is around still 6.7. But in essence, indeed, Mbappe's rating is the smallest compared to other forwards.
Even the worst compared to the entire Real Madrid starting squad.

Mbappe has just moved to Real Madrid and he isn't used to play in top league like La Liga comparing to the lower level of Ligue 1. He will take some time to adapt and will resume scoring.
Besides, I think his score is lower because people expect a lot from him, and to score a goal at least which doesn't happen so they are a bit disappointed and this explains why also Valverde has a good rating because he scored a goal.

Basically Mbappe is used to tough competition, and playing at PSG or in Ligue 1 is also not a lower level than La Liga. Also, basically Mbappe is used to playing with great demands when PSG plays in the Champion League and also when Mbappe plays in the French national team. So, with Mbappe getting used to playing in the highest competition then of course, it is natural for Mbappe should to play well quickly, because Mbappe is also always included in the starting eleven.

So, it seems you are wrong if you think Ligue 1 is a league below level then La Liga, because Ligue 1 is also included in the top European leagues. With the low rating that Mbappe has so far at Real Madrid, it is certainly a bit of a disappointment too, because Mbappe is basically a top player anyway, but Mbappe still needs time to adapt. Because as far as I know, at least the top players who have just joined or just played at Real Madrid, at least they managed to have a good contribution in a short time. But, when top players need time to adapt, then maybe players like Hazard in the past also became one of the transfers that in fact failed to provide good results for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 26, 2024, 07:40:42 AM

Vini, Rodrygo, and Mbaape have proven themselves in the European top league. Endrick is a rising star, so I think it's natural everyone is still in doubt. So this season is a time to prove for Endrick at Real Madrid. This 1 goal is quite good for his mentality. He's in a very competitive team, if he can't compete, I think he will be loaned out. If you remember the stars of Japan? He's Kubo he's a good player, but he's not able to compete under pressure so he's sold. Not only Endrick, I think Guler will also have the same pressure, he has to be able to prove to Ancelotti that he is good to keep.

Endrick definitely looks great, he is young too, they have two very young good players on the team that is playing. Both Arda and Endrick are under 20 years old and they are very highly valued and they shown so far how great they are as well, they really played great and Endrick scored now, while Arda didn't now, he finished last season very well.

So, I guess that we are going to see them be good for a long time, not just now. I think it's clear that they are going to end up with great results with time, I think it's clear that we need to end up with something that will not be all that bad at all. We should consider how we could make that type of result, and because of that if we can see them build this team with this logic, there must be someone out.

We can't have all these, we are going to see one of them just have different result, and I bet that it will be Rodrygo, because while he is good, I just think that he is not consistent enough for Real Madrid level. He could show himself much better at some other team, in fact I feel like if he goes to City he could win so much there, including UCL as well, because he fits that team a lot better, he is exactly the right wing Pep likes to play.

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Quote from: Dailyscript on August 26, 2024, 07:31:23 AM

I am not surprised because I was expecting this kind of comment in Real Madrid. Real Madrid dont need to adapt to any changes. It's just one player they bought which is Mabape. So they only need to find one space for him that he would be playing. The interesting thing about the player is that he is well-talented and he has the ability to adapt to any team outperforming others there too. There is no excuse for Real Madrid not having a good performance, if they claim to be the best team existing in these current times then they have to prove it. Adapt quickly and give the fans what they want.

I totally agree with the previous post about adapting new tactics, this thing can switch the cards for a whole team. Take for example Cristiano when he went from Real Madrid to Manchester United, and we saw the whole team focusing on him, which led to a bad performance from all the players, troubles inside their team management, even conflicts with the coach. That’s why I agree that one player can create a bad influence to a whole team. However, this scenario shouldn’t or won’t surely happen with Real Madrid as they have the best managers, a very experienced coach and the whole team is respecting any decision by the leaders.

I support Real Madrid in every match and wishing them to win, but we can ran from facts and the unexpected performance, compared to the list of players. I might be wrong in my thoughts and thinking, but from what I have seen the last two matches, I wasn’t satisfied for that performance.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on August 26, 2024, 10:39:42 AM

In some sites, actually, Mbappe's rating is around still 6.7. But in essence, indeed, Mbappe's rating is the smallest compared to other forwards.
Even the worst compared to the entire Real Madrid starting squad.

Mbappe has just moved to Real Madrid and he isn't used to play in top league like La Liga comparing to the lower level of Ligue 1. He will take some time to adapt and will resume scoring.
Besides, I think his score is lower because people expect a lot from him, and to score a goal at least which doesn't happen so they are a bit disappointed and this explains why also Valverde has a good rating because he scored a goal.

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Quote from: bering on August 26, 2024, 01:54:29 AM

Quote from: TelolettOm on August 25, 2024, 05:59:47 PM

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Mbappe maybe should be required time to adapt with Real Madrid so that's why he still unable to in form and i have to says people expectation is very high to him so that's why everytime Mbappe played people will always be expect Mbappe can scores for Real Madrid but in fact until week 2 Mbappe still hasn't scores for Real Madrid even when the match against Valladolid last night

Yes, to be honest, this is one of the consequences of expecting too much. Mbappe is indeed a world-class player, but still, his playing style and the conditions of his home league with La Liga, especially with his new club at Real Madrid are very different. So, even though it takes time, he is required to be able to adapt optimally immediately.

Quote from: Palakka on August 26, 2024, 10:16:29 AM

This season Mbappe has become to Madrid main star, but his was unable to answer the challenge presented by Ancelotti at this time and even in that the match, Mbappe performance was very poor and he only got a rating below 6.

In fact, he looked very frustrated with the situation, even when he missed the 2 big chances to score goals. That was a very bad thing, not even 1 assist.

Source: Real Madrid Rating

In some sites, actually, Mbappe's rating is around still 6.7. But in essence, indeed, Mbappe's rating is the smallest compared to other forwards.
Even the worst compared to the entire Real Madrid starting squad.

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Quote from: Frankolala on August 25, 2024, 04:32:50 PM

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It seems to me that Real's advantage over Valladolid is no less than PSG's advantage over any team from Ligue 1, so no special adaptation is required. Mbappe is doing his job and has scored two goals in three games, which is a normal figure for the start of a season after the summer in which the Euro was held. Today Real showed a good result with an average game, this is what is needed at the start, it is a pity that points were lost in the first round, but I do not think that this is critical.

Mbappe has only scored one goal against Atalanta. He has not scored any goal in this new season in Laliga. One should not worry over that because he is a good player and will adapt to the club game pattern. Mbappe has already proved himself to be a brilliant player by scoring his first goal in Spain on his first appearance for Real Madrid.

Real Madrid performance today was superb even if they played with a mediocre club, three points is what matters and I believe Real Madrid will win any big club if the win is very important and necessary.

Yes, you are right, for some reason I thought that in the game with Mallorca the only goal for Real was scored by Mbappe, although in fact it was Rodrigo.
I don't think (and it seems most analysts think so too) that Real's game against Valladolid was excellent, as the score was slippery until the very end of the game (given the loss of points in the first round, this was very dangerous) and Real had problems creating scoring chances throughout the game. But three points are three points, that's all that's needed now.

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Quote from: X-ray on August 26, 2024, 09:06:17 AM

Quote from: Luzin on August 26, 2024, 07:40:42 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 26, 2024, 06:59:19 AM

Almost everyone is talking about how Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodygo could be figures who would be very scary in the front line. However, not many people pay attention to Endrick, even in several conversations on social media I read them saying that Endrick would have difficulty competing in the Real Madrid main squad. I can understand that because he is still very young, so that might be a consideration for some people.

Vini, Rodrygo, and Mbaape have proven themselves in the European top league. Endrick is a rising star, so I think it's natural everyone is still in doubt. So this season is a time to prove for Endrick at Real Madrid. This 1 goal is quite good for his mentality. He's in a very competitive team, if he can't compete, I think he will be loaned out. If you remember the stars of Japan? He's Kubo he's a good player, but he's not able to compete under pressure so he's sold. Not only Endrick, I think Guler will also have the same pressure, he has to be able to prove to Ancelotti that he is good to keep.

A goal scored by Endrick will drastically increase his confidence. He is happy with his debut. Though Ancelotti sent him in during the second half to replace Mbappé. But it's all good. Also, Madrid bought him very expensively from Palmeiras. But he has really paid it off with his debut.

I'm feeling disappointed with Rodrygo and Mbappé in that game. Despite being in the starting lineup, they wasted many chances. They played awfully in the first half. So, Ancelotti subbed them off to hope for better play in the second half. He was right to do it.

All in all, the first half was full of disappointment, but the second half was full of joy.

Mbappe actually had a bad day when he continued to fail to score goals in Madrid two matches, but Endrick who is also a new Madrid player, has able to surprise us with one goal he scored in his debut match, in my opinion, Endrick is not a player who is expected to be able to provide The difference in this match is because I think Madrid fans will definitely expect more from Mbappe this season than Endrick, who was also just brought in from Palmeiras, but what they expected is actually different from the reality they see now after Endrick managed to score his first goal in La Liga.
This season Mbappe has become to Madrid main star, but his was unable to answer the challenge presented by Ancelotti at this time and even in that the match, Mbappe performance was very poor and he only got a rating below 6.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 26, 2024, 07:40:42 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 26, 2024, 06:59:19 AM

Almost everyone is talking about how Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodygo could be figures who would be very scary in the front line. However, not many people pay attention to Endrick, even in several conversations on social media I read them saying that Endrick would have difficulty competing in the Real Madrid main squad. I can understand that because he is still very young, so that might be a consideration for some people.

Vini, Rodrygo, and Mbaape have proven themselves in the European top league. Endrick is a rising star, so I think it's natural everyone is still in doubt. So this season is a time to prove for Endrick at Real Madrid. This 1 goal is quite good for his mentality. He's in a very competitive team, if he can't compete, I think he will be loaned out. If you remember the stars of Japan? He's Kubo he's a good player, but he's not able to compete under pressure so he's sold. Not only Endrick, I think Guler will also have the same pressure, he has to be able to prove to Ancelotti that he is good to keep.

Well it's not about these youngsters and their prospects, rather it's about real Madrid and their long standing tradition of star players just like the clubs nickname (galacticos) they always aim for the stars, they really don't have time for young prospects, before coming to real Madrid you ought to have proven yourself else where, unlike Barcelona they really rely on their academy or youth system for talents, in 2010 FIFA world cup Barcelona had more than five players on the Spanish national team starting line up who all came through their academy, puyol,pique,xavi,iniesta,busquet,pedro,but the same can never be said about real Madrid because they don't have the perseverance for upcoming talents like Guler or Endricks and may end up sending them out on loan spell or sell them permanently to other clubs.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 26, 2024, 07:40:42 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 26, 2024, 06:59:19 AM

Almost everyone is talking about how Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodygo could be figures who would be very scary in the front line. However, not many people pay attention to Endrick, even in several conversations on social media I read them saying that Endrick would have difficulty competing in the Real Madrid main squad. I can understand that because he is still very young, so that might be a consideration for some people.

Vini, Rodrygo, and Mbaape have proven themselves in the European top league. Endrick is a rising star, so I think it's natural everyone is still in doubt. So this season is a time to prove for Endrick at Real Madrid. This 1 goal is quite good for his mentality. He's in a very competitive team, if he can't compete, I think he will be loaned out. If you remember the stars of Japan? He's Kubo he's a good player, but he's not able to compete under pressure so he's sold. Not only Endrick, I think Guler will also have the same pressure, he has to be able to prove to Ancelotti that he is good to keep.

A goal scored by Endrick will drastically increase his confidence. He is happy with his debut. Though Ancelotti sent him in during the second half to replace Mbappé. But it's all good. Also, Madrid bought him very expensively from Palmeiras. But he has really paid it off with his debut.

I'm feeling disappointed with Rodrygo and Mbappé in that game. Despite being in the starting lineup, they wasted many chances. They played awfully in the first half. So, Ancelotti subbed them off to hope for better play in the second half. He was right to do it.

All in all, the first half was full of disappointment, but the second half was full of joy.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 26, 2024, 07:40:42 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 26, 2024, 06:59:19 AM

Almost everyone is talking about how Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodygo could be figures who would be very scary in the front line. However, not many people pay attention to Endrick, even in several conversations on social media I read them saying that Endrick would have difficulty competing in the Real Madrid main squad. I can understand that because he is still very young, so that might be a consideration for some people.

Vini, Rodrygo, and Mbaape have proven themselves in the European top league. Endrick is a rising star, so I think it's natural everyone is still in doubt. So this season is a time to prove for Endrick at Real Madrid. This 1 goal is quite good for his mentality. He's in a very competitive team, if he can't compete, I think he will be loaned out. If you remember the stars of Japan? He's Kubo he's a good player, but he's not able to compete under pressure so he's sold. Not only Endrick, I think Guler will also have the same pressure, he has to be able to prove to Ancelotti that he is good to keep.

For Arda Guler and Endrick, what they need to do now is to strengthen their mentality, the competition in Madrid is quite tight even though we see a very harmonious relationship between each other but in terms of competition, everything must remain professional. For example, now Brahim Diaz whose mentality has been formed so that whenever he is played for any duration, Brahim is able to take advantage of the opportunity to perform optimally. While looking at Endrick, personally I still have great doubts about his mentality which is still too whiny, you should know that he sometimes has a lot of drama but hopefully in Madrid he can change and be better.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 26, 2024, 06:59:19 AM

Almost everyone is talking about how Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodygo could be figures who would be very scary in the front line. However, not many people pay attention to Endrick, even in several conversations on social media I read them saying that Endrick would have difficulty competing in the Real Madrid main squad. I can understand that because he is still very young, so that might be a consideration for some people.

Vini, Rodrygo, and Mbaape have proven themselves in the European top league. Endrick is a rising star, so I think it's natural everyone is still in doubt. So this season is a time to prove for Endrick at Real Madrid. This 1 goal is quite good for his mentality. He's in a very competitive team, if he can't compete, I think he will be loaned out. If you remember the stars of Japan? He's Kubo he's a good player, but he's not able to compete under pressure so he's sold. Not only Endrick, I think Guler will also have the same pressure, he has to be able to prove to Ancelotti that he is good to keep.

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Quote from: Nheer on August 25, 2024, 03:31:14 PM

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Real Madrid won the match and they won by a big margin. But it must be admitted that Real Madrid's performance in the first half was not good. Even the next two goals they scored in the last minute of the match. However, after failing to score 3 points in the first match, Madrid managed to score 3 points in the second match by dominating the match.

Real Madrid have still not adapted to the changes in the team yet, i expected it though, they should not blend in at the beginning but when they do they will surely bang. We are yet to witness the performance of the three attackers and thats what everyone is waiting for, Mbappe, Vinicius and Rogrygo to cook but it doesn’t seem to be going their way yet. If it’s not yet working for them i think it’s good that other players are stepping up and getting the job done.

I am not surprised because I was expecting this kind of comment in Real Madrid. Real Madrid dont need to adapt to any changes. It's just one player they bought which is Mabape. So they only need to find one space for him that he would be playing. The interesting thing about the player is that he is well-talented and he has the ability to adapt to any team outperforming others there too. There is no excuse for Real Madrid not having a good performance, if they claim to be the best team existing in these current times then they have to prove it. Adapt quickly and give the fans what they want.

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Real Madrid is known around the world as the best team in La Liga, and they are also a strong team. I believe Real Madrid have built a strong team this season, like last season, and they are strong enough to win the title this season. However, the way they came back in yesterday's game was really good, Real Madrid didn't have much excitement in the first half but went into the second half and put in a great performance and beat the opposition by scoring three goals. I also believe that in the coming days, Real Madrid team will become stronger and work harder and win every match brilliantly. Real Madrid has been playing very well in the competition of the new season, so it is expected that they will be more excited in the coming days.

Real Madrid were a bit sluggish at the start as they attacked only a few times but did not succeed. But after half time they were very aggressive despite having the most experienced and young players in the attacking department. Rodrigo, Vinicius Jr., and Mbappe have performed extremely well in the first attacking department. Although Luka Modric performed well for his side, the reverse team could not come up with much attack. So I won the bet on this match, because there was a huge gap between the two teams in this match.

Awful performance showed by Real Madrid in the first half. This is because they were unable to score against Valladolid, which is an easy team to beat.And I totally disagree with you. Mbappe and Rodrygo played badly in this game. Also, Rodrygo's failure to stop Vini's easy tap-in was unacceptable. There are so many bad moments that happened in the first half.
But, I'm glad to see Ancelotti was aware of the situation. He put in Brahim Diaz (a supersub) and Endrick to play in the second half. Also, Endrick has got his dream debut by scoring a goal against Valladolid.

In conclusion, Real Madrid's first-half performance was poor. They have many superstars. But, surprisingly, our supersub (Brahim Diaz) excelled in the second half. Endrick, in his amazing debut, scored a goal.

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There is only one game in Spanish La Liga. Villareal will play against Celta Vigo. Villareal have 1 win and 1 draw in their two matches in La Liga. On the other hand, Celta Vigo won their first two matches. Both teams have had good results. Betting on a match like this is risky. But I'm going to bet on both teams to score in this match. Because both teams have no problem scoring goals. I think Celta Vigo are close to winning. Aspas and Swedberg are showing very good performances in the last games. But betting on both teams to score is a more guaranteed option for me.

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Almost everyone is talking about how Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodygo could be figures who would be very scary in the front line. However, not many people pay attention to Endrick, even in several conversations on social media I read them saying that Endrick would have difficulty competing in the Real Madrid main squad. I can understand that because he is still very young, so that might be a consideration for some people.
Endrick came on in the 86th minute to replace Mbappe, he played his debut match in this match. And what is extraordinary for him is that he was also able to score the first goal with Real Madrid. Real Madrid has no shortage of young players for their future, now they just need to hone their abilities to be even more optimal.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 26, 2024, 04:15:54 AM

Real Madrid did a decent work just as I expected. However Mbappe was terrible in this game. He wasted absolute goal opportunities without exaggeration. One of his shots was nearly ending up with a throw-in. Tongue

We watched Arda Güler in Bellingham's place in this game. I think he played quite decently. He played a big role in many attack organizations. He got close to scoring a couple of times too but unfortunately he couldn't score.

By the way I liked Atletico Madrid a lot. They were very effective against Girona and finished them off easily. I'm afraid Girona are no longer the same as the previous season. Sad

Losing important players have a big affect.

Atletico played a very good match, Llorente's goal was spectacular, Girona simply had no chance against such a team, in the first match against Betis they looked much better. Real expectedly won, but the first Valladolid there held on very well, mostly thanks to the excellent play of the goalkeeper, Valverde by the way also scored a great goal from 28 meters. Mbappe can't find his place yet, he moves a lot but he is not very effective, maybe he really needs a little time to get used to the team.

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In my opinion it is normal when new players are adapting to the atmosphere in La Liga. But Mbappe had to get out of the situation in the next few matches because if not he would feel a greater mental pressure. The media will be intensive to write news about it especially compared to Endrik who immediately contributes to its contribution. Yes Ancelotti will analyze his formation so that Mbappe can issue his best abilities. But I think team victory is more important than having to think of one individual.

Although it is natural and Real Madrid has won the match, Mbappe is still in the media spotlight when he is unable to score a goal in the match and even the player who replaced Mbappe in the 86th minute was able to score a goal in the final minutes of the match so that it will give a fairly different assessment of them. However, I think it will not be difficult for Ancelotti to choose a suitable place for Mbappe in the team because he is a fast player and can be relied on for certain sectors in the match.

Real Madrid has played two matches in La Liga and in these two matches Mbappe has not been able to make a big contribution to Madrid game so far, I think maybe for now he will miss and remember the competition in Ligue 1 which is so easy and he can't find it at the moment in la liga Grin

, but it seems it's still too early to say if he has failed at this time because they have only played two matches and there are still a total of 36 matches left which could be an opportunity for mbappe to prove his quality in la liga, in my opinion mbappe is currently possible He is still having difficulty adapting to the intense competition in La Liga, so when he has gained the right momentum and really understands La Liga, of course we will see his sharpness again, but for now I also cannot deny the fear that perhaps Mbappe fate will be the same as Hazard when his moved from chelsea to madrid previously.

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Very solid start for Barcelona. Two wins against Valencia and Athletic Bilbao via 2-1. Lewandowski scored 3 goals and one goal scored by Lamine Yamal. Barcelona has lots of young and talented players, but I guess that Lewandowski at an age of 36 will remain the leader and top goal scorer. Hansi Flick might be the best option to replace Xavi as the manager of Barcelona.
Real Madrid did a draw against Mallorca, but shouldn't be a problem for their team. The biggest problem there would be the enormous expectations upon Mbappe to become the leader and top scorer of the team.
Atletico Madrid started with 2-2 draw against a strong opponent like Villareal, but they won 3-0 against Girona, that had a great performance in the last season. I hear that Atletico Madrid plans to spend 200 million euro on new players. I don't know if this is true, though.

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Quote from: len01 on August 26, 2024, 04:15:32 AM

There is only 1 match today Villarreal vs Celta which will be an interesting match. Celta is currently leading the EPL standings with great pride in being at the top of the standings even though it is only temporary and now it is time for Villarreal to give 1 defeat to Celta.
Maybe too confident but I am sure if Villarreal hosts against Celta, it will always be able to produce 3 points for Villarreal. And on the one hand Celta seems to be a lucky team that can beat Alaves and Valencia when playing at home.
3-1 might be the perfect score for both teams or betting on BTTS can provide a decent profit.

I believe celta will not allow such defeats of that goal difference, they were known to be an average team all this while but it appears this season they sre coming totally different from what we have seen and known them for, because their performance already is commendable, lets see hoe well it will go against Villarreal who i know to be another good team even if they don't happen to be amongst the top teams in the la Liga but they do have a relatively good form and depth as when compared to celta, this may be the only time celta met be enjoying such position they sre privileged at currently as i believe soon the bigger teams will get them displaced.

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Quote from: tomos81 on August 25, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

The Real Madrid team was aggressive and ferocious from the start, as the opposing team was at least weak. If we compare the players of the two teams, then Real Madrid team is stronger and known as the best team of this season. Because Real Madrid's players have been more aggressive since the past, Real Madrid has become stronger after the addition of Mbappe.
There was little attacking before half-time, but after half-time Mbappe's side became more attacking and ferocious. Because meanwhile Rodrigo missed the ball the most and was unable to score but later succeeded.

We beat Valladolid, 3-0. Thats a win, and we always love winning, believe me. But it wasnt exactly a masterpiece. As usual, Mbappe was excellent. Though he is a game-changer, for now he does not score any goals. And we cannot depend on him to carry the squad every game. We need to see more from the other guys, especially early on.

Rodrigo found it difficult out there. Though it occurs to the best of them, we need him to take initiative. Being Real Madrid, we cannot afford to have any weak links in the chain. Ancelotti moved wisely bringing Endrick on board. He proved it with that goal. Its fantastic to see we have depth on the bench.

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