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Yes, you are right, I don’t know who would risk betting today that Atalanta is capable of beating Real, and the odds of 6.5 on Atalanta indicate that bookmakers also estimate their chances very low. To some extent, Real was lucky in the Champions League final, when their opponent was Dortmund, because to be honest, it was not the strongest team that could have been their opponent in the final. And the same thing is happening in the Super Cup final, because if Bayer had played them today, and they had been able to maintain their unbeaten streak until today, then the chances would have been estimated differently, but I think it will not be a problem for Real to beat Atalanta today.
Man are you serious?

Real Madrid beat Manchester City and Bayern Munich, two teams that high likely will reach final, but you sounds like Real Madrid is lucky to reach final because they didn't match against big teams. It's Dortmund that lucky in Champions League.

If Real Madrid is a weak team, they would lose against Manchester City or Bayern Munich.
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None of us imagine that the Atalanta team will win the Europa League final. However, Atalanta performed well in the Europa League. Liverpool and Marseille qualified for the Europa League final after defeating them. And the Atalanta team won the Europa League after defeating a strong team like Leverkusen in the final.

Real Madrid is undoubtedly stronger than Atalanta. But the Atalanta team cannot be considered weak. This team often surprises everyone with excellent performances. But we are all waiting to see Mbappe's performance in Real Madrid jersey.
Yes, you are right, I don’t know who would risk betting today that Atalanta is capable of beating Real, and the odds of 6.5 on Atalanta indicate that bookmakers also estimate their chances very low. To some extent, Real was lucky in the Champions League final, when their opponent was Dortmund, because to be honest, it was not the strongest team that could have been their opponent in the final. And the same thing is happening in the Super Cup final, because if Bayer had played them today, and they had been able to maintain their unbeaten streak until today, then the chances would have been estimated differently, but I think it will not be a problem for Real to beat Atalanta today.
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It will be Real Madrid's first serious match since Mbappé arrived. Everyone is curious about how Mbappé will play in this match. Like you, I am curious about Ancelotti's formation. Because the talent they have is very good. There are more than one player in each position with high quality. For example, will young players Brahim Diaz and Arda Güler play? I think they will not be on the field at the beginning, but I wonder if they will enter the game later and in what role Ancelotti will evaluate them.
Yeah it's going to be Mbappé first serious match and also first final, who knows he will also start counting is first trophy with Real Madrid, throughout the Atalanta joining to this stage was surprising because no one thought that Atalanta will come so far, before their final against Bayer Leverkusen at Europa League everyone was curious to see Bayer Leverkusen vs Real Madrid to meet in super Cup finals because they never thought Atalanta can be able to destroy Bayer Leverkusen since the are the strongest team and also unbeaten, but Atalanta surprised everyone by eliminating the expected teams that will left the trophy.

None of us imagine that the Atalanta team will win the Europa League final. However, Atalanta performed well in the Europa League. Liverpool and Marseille qualified for the Europa League final after defeating them. And the Atalanta team won the Europa League after defeating a strong team like Leverkusen in the final.

Real Madrid is undoubtedly stronger than Atalanta. But the Atalanta team cannot be considered weak. This team often surprises everyone with excellent performances. But we are all waiting to see Mbappe's performance in Real Madrid jersey.
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Having good team does not guarantee success as we saw with Girona last season. Strong team is important but it is not the only factor.
Having a good team doesn't guarantee success, but that can take a team to a better position in the league table above mediocre teams.
Girona didn't lift the Laliga trophy, as we all know, but they were able to occupy the third spot on the Laliga table compared to other seasons they had poor performance. At least they gave a fantastic performance last season, it's something they can boost, that they achieve in building a strong team that can compete for the top spot. However, I don't know what will be Girona's fate this season as they have sold and loaned some of their key players to other teams, signing new players to their team.

I think Girona had a good team last season because they appeared quite consistent throughout the season and they achieved that with solid teamwork. They are indeed not a big team with lots of star players in it but that doesn't hide the fact that they are a good team. A good team's parameters are not always the number of star players they have, but how they play to win and get a good achievement by the time the season ends.
Girona really shocked everyone last season and what make that achievable for them was unity that is they move together as a team even though there no any super star in their means but during last season they actually make use of the opportunity they have by playing only one competition and that was Laliga, that why it wasn't stressful to them but this time around I don't think it going to be easy for them because they are playing more than one competition and that alone will make it difficult to enjoy this season.
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With the La liga opener in a few days, many are worried about the current state of Barcelona. After losing 0-3 to Monaco in their own home, everyone is doubting how the team will play against Valencia this saturday.

Their coach acknowledged that they did not play well and even the players themselves made some errors but he assured fans that the team will play differently in Valencia. The team is probably not at its best right now fitness wise.


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In fact, if you look at the statistics of the match, Barcelona seems to have made more shots, but unfortunately not many were on target, while Monaco, who had fewer shots, were able to score 3 goals to beat Barcelona.
I am also worried about how Hansi Flick will handle this situation, especially since the club cannot use Dani Olmo, a player they just recruited this summer. I think Barcelona's bad luck is not over yet, most likely they will have difficulty competing with Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid in La Liga this season.
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This is the lineup according to Eurosports and Mbappe is starting the match.
Cavaminga will miss the match against Atalanta.
He has just been injured. This midfielder suffered a knee injury during training. and will soon undergo an examination to find out how the exact further condition.


Source: Camavinga set to miss UEFA Super Cup through injury

The most likely starting midfielders after this injury will be probably: Bellingham, Tchouaméni, and Valverde if still using 3 midfielders.
It is very unfortunate that Camavinga has to leave and will not play in the match later against Atalanta, but in the video circulating it seems that Ancelotti is a little upset with losing Camavinga in this match I think Ancoletti wants to play him and it seems that he has to change his strategy for later, I think this will be a rather loud injury from the screams that Camavinga experienced it seems that there is a possibility that he has a torn ACL, it seems very bad for this young star, hopefully not but that's just my opinion.

I think the starter will be Ceballos with Belingham Tchouaméni in the Real Madrid midfield, of course this is a bad day for Camavinga hopefully he recovers quickly and I am sure whatever line-up Ancelotti puts out tonight they will win the match overall Atalanta have had their bad days in their last few matches.
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Mbappé will probably be in the first 11 in the match against Atalanta tomorrow. Ancelotti sees him as one of the team's important stars. And this is normal because he is one of the best players in the world right now. Considering that he will definitely play in the first 11 at Real Madrid, I think he has made a logical decision. He has already contributed a lot to Paris Saint-Germain with his individual talents, but he has not received the individual awards he deserves. I think he will also receive individual awards while playing with Real Madrid.



This is the lineup according to Eurosports and Mbappe is starting the match. This is the first competitive game for the Frenchman and his opportunity to win his first European trophy. Winning this game will be a dream. come through for Kylian Mbappé and scoring a goal will make it more remarkable. Carlo Ancelotti will also face his first test of being able to harness the array of stars in Real Madrid. The club will pursue to win this competition for the sixth time after winning five out of nine appearances. We also need to look out for the Europa Cup hero Ademola Lookman, who will want to lead his club to their first trophy in this competition.

The set up I saw above is a very nice and competitive selections for both teams but I can't say Madrid have the upper hands in this game just because they seem to be the favorite, this is going to be a bigger battle that I feel Madrid will find difficult to easily win. To me I'd like this game to go in favor of Atalanta because they haven't been in this kind of form and this is their first European Super Cup final, so they will do anything possible to make sure they win it.
Mbappe will be hoping to get his first ever Super Cup and I don't think it will happen, we might be seeing another Harry Kane in the making. We know he joined Madrid for the cause of getting a UCL trophy and other ones he couldn't get while at PSG but things might not go as smooth as he expected on this particular game, Madrid might lose this game to the Italian side tonight.
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The competition was self-made and the opponent was chosen by themselves but Barcelona actually suffered a defeat. Grin

Yes, as is known, Barcelona has just held the Joan Gamper trophy and their opponent is a team from France, Monaco. In the match, Barcelona could not move and had to concede 3 goals which made Monaco win the trophy. Although this seems like just a pre-season match, there is a trophy to be fought for and the host should have been able to win this match easily. The mistakes in the defense line were so bad that Barcelona could not fix it during the match.

But seeing Barcelona's performance last night seemed unusual, even though they had won against strong teams in the pre-season match but when facing an opponent they should have been able to beat, they couldn't. However, this will remain a note that Hansi Flick must fix and of course he also doesn't want his first debut as Barcelona coach to lose points in the La Liga competition later.

It seems like we should congratulate Monaco for winning the Joan Gamper Trophy final and in that match Adi Hutter was so skilled at making techniques that in the end Barcelona didn't move even though they were the hosts. In my opinion, with this defeat, many people will definitely be disappointed with Barcelona's performance. who couldn't win the match and of course Hansi Flick was also sad because his team was defeated by Monaco by a fairly large score. In my opinion, if Hansi Flick can bring Barcelona to victory, of course as the new coach he will definitely make Barcelona fans proud, but of course there is still an opportunity for Hansi Flick to advance Barcelona.

Indeed, because there is a trophy up for grabs, Barcelona should perform better because in friendly matches Barcelona performs well and can win against strong teams such as Real Madrid and others and indeed in terms of defense against Monaco Barcelona is not good and since Camara scored a goal against Barcelona Barcelona looked like they had a mental impact which finally made the Monaco players comfortable playing the ball and taking advantage of opportunities well.

Yes, let's see whether Hansi Flick will succeed in improving Barcelona or not when Laliga starts later and it is certain that Hansi Flick also doesn't want Barcelona to lose in the Laliga match and of course he also wants to prove that he is a good coach who will be able to bring Barcelona the ranking will be better in the coming season. However, I saw that during the match against Monaco, Barcelona was still strong, but I saw that after Camara scored an unexpected goal, that's when Barcelona's performance declined. I think there is definitely only a little that needs to be improved. Hansi flick, namely that have to make Barcelona appeared confident again when the Laliga match started.
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This is the lineup according to Eurosports and Mbappe is starting the match.
The lineup is the same as UEFA prediction.

Mbappe should be in the starting lineup because he is the main striker of Real Madrid. Real Madrid can't rely on Endrick, his performance in pra-season match seems not really satisfying. But I'm curious about the players who will be in the midfield line of Real Madrid. There are too many options there, it depends on the tactic to apply by Ancelotti. If Ancelotti wants to pay more offensive, I guess the midfielders will be Modric - Valverde - Bellingham. But if Ancelotti wants to play more defensive, he probably prefers Tchouaméni - Valverde - Bellingham. By they way, Camavinga can't play because he gets injury (knee injury).

This is the first competitive game for the Frenchman and his opportunity to win his first European trophy. Winning this game will be a dream. come through for Kylian Mbappé and scoring a goal will make it more remarkable. Carlo Ancelotti will also face his first test of being able to harness the array of stars in Real Madrid. The club will pursue to win this competition for the sixth time after winning five out of nine appearances.
It isn't Mbappe's first competitive match, it is his first match for Real Madrid.  Wink
Yep, Mbappe will have a chance to win his first trophy with Real Madrid. Not sure if it is his dream, I guess UCL trophy is still his dream. However, Super Cup trophy is also a prestigious trophy, only the winner of UCL or UEL can win this trophy. It will be a perfect debut of Mbappe if Real Madrid can win this match.

Well, Super Cup match is the first test for Real Madrid. They are demanded to win the match easily because Real Madrid has much better players. Ancelotti must try to optimize the potential of Real Madrid squad with many great players. This is also a big challenge for Ancelotti, he must know how to make the star players to play as a solid team. Usually, having too many star players in the lineup will make the team playing too individually. However, I trust Ancelotti, he is an experienced coach who has a great reputation.

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It will be Real Madrid's first serious match since Mbappé arrived. Everyone is curious about how Mbappé will play in this match. Like you, I am curious about Ancelotti's formation. Because the talent they have is very good. There are more than one player in each position with high quality. For example, will young players Brahim Diaz and Arda Güler play? I think they will not be on the field at the beginning, but I wonder if they will enter the game later and in what role Ancelotti will evaluate them.
Yeah it's going to be Mbappé first serious match and also first final, who knows he will also start counting is first trophy with Real Madrid, throughout the Atalanta joining to this stage was surprising because no one thought that Atalanta will come so far, before their final against Bayer Leverkusen at Europa League everyone was curious to see Bayer Leverkusen vs Real Madrid to meet in super Cup finals because they never thought Atalanta can be able to destroy Bayer Leverkusen since the are the strongest team and also unbeaten, but Atalanta surprised everyone by eliminating the expected teams that will left the trophy.
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This is the lineup according to Eurosports and Mbappe is starting the match.
Cavaminga will miss the match against Atalanta.
He has just been injured. This midfielder suffered a knee injury during training. and will soon undergo an examination to find out how the exact further condition.


Source: Camavinga set to miss UEFA Super Cup through injury

The most likely starting midfielders after this injury will be probably: Bellingham, Tchouaméni, and Valverde if still using 3 midfielders.
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It will be Real Madrid's first serious match since Mbappé arrived. Everyone is curious about how Mbappé will play in this match. Like you, I am curious about Ancelotti's formation. Because the talent they have is very good. There are more than one player in each position with high quality. For example, will young players Brahim Diaz and Arda Güler play? I think they will not be on the field at the beginning, but I wonder if they will enter the game later and in what role Ancelotti will evaluate them.
All eyes will be on Mbappe in tomorrow's match because it is his first debut with the Los Blancos squad. If I pay attention, of course Mbappe plays an important role as Real Madrid's goal machine in this match, in fact I am sure he will score a goal in tomorrow's match.
For Arda Guler there is a big possibility that he will come on as a substitute, but I would like to see him in the starting minutes.
Looking at the opponents you are facing, of course it is not an easy matter to beat Atalanta because they have quite a strong defense. But if you look at the comparison in the front area or the front line, of course there is no chance for the Atalanta defenders to relax.
My prediction is that maybe a big score will decorate this match.
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It's bound to happen, but in the end if it only makes their situation more difficult then I think they also have to realize that at the moment the advantage is not in their favor and this should make them think from the beginning to try to improve the condition of the team first rather than looking for rivalries. Although in the end rivalry is important especially since they are one of the big clubs in La Liga but there are important things they have to do before making them competitive again, namely improving finances which until now has been a major problem for Barcelona.

This problem is too allowed to drag on which just makes them look the same and does not become optimal in the end in terms of performance even though competition remains but when their performance is not too optimal then the results remain the same where Madrid is always above them.
The signing wasn't like before actually it was minimal this time around though I don't know if they did sealed Nico Williams deal but they have just one signing which was Dani and it was even a backup I think because the way I see it was that they weren't sure about Nico Williamsso they singed the alt to it .
I'm not too sure they are really in for competition this season (maybe ,maybe not)it's obvious their  main rival squad seem stronger actually...though we haven't seen their performance  but we all can judge for now with squad.Currently they are working on their construction also and they will be needing more fans support after(this is how I'm viewing it though)
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This is the lineup according to Eurosports and Mbappe is starting the match. This is the first competitive game for the Frenchman and his opportunity to win his first European trophy. Winning this game will be a dream. come through for Kylian Mbappé and scoring a goal will make it more remarkable. Carlo Ancelotti will also face his first test of being able to harness the array of stars in Real Madrid. The club will pursue to win this competition for the sixth time after winning five out of nine appearances. We also need to look out for the Europa Cup hero Ademola Lookman, who will want to lead his club to their first trophy in this competition.
Looking at the current conditions for the Madrid squad, this is indeed the ideal formation that Ancelotti might do when facing the match that will occur tomorrow.
But seeing Camavinga in central midfield seems to be a new way for Ancelotti to play Camavinga in a defensive midfield position just like Tchouameni and it makes sense when looking at some of their layers where for now Modric is still possible to cover Valverde or Jude and there is another option for Guller who can also occupy Valverde's position later especially Guller also seems to be projected as a winger to cover Rodrygo.
Tomorrow is the opening match before the new season starts and I am quite confident with Madrid in tomorrow's match especially with the odds that already show that Madrid is the favorite with odds of 1.55.
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Unfortunately, they still think that they are fine and do not consider their financial problems to be a serious problem that must be resolved quickly Cheesy

It's a bit hard to understand what Barcelona are going to do with all their problems but they don't think they're fine and are always pushing for expensive players in difficult conditions.
Indeed in this case they still want to raise the rivalry and it must be done when they have comparable strength to Madrid, but with the current conditions where they are still very difficult to minimize finances I think they do not need to force their will because it will only create new problems, as you said, Barcelona's problems when bringing players all always look the same even seem like a template where they have difficulty registering players in the end and they always circumvent this but do not solve the financial problems they face.
They have no choice actually, they can't just ignore every player just because they are down financially, though  they shouldn't spend too much but not getting players will not be a good idea  because of fans , once the club is not doing anything to get better they loose more fans , fans don't care about financial problem they need improvement from the club. The reconstruction made the whole financial stuff much more worsen even though there're some major causes too but it's done already they just need to face it find solution, though getting players might not be a proper solution but it still contribute if those players could archive something at the end of the day.
It's bound to happen, but in the end if it only makes their situation more difficult then I think they also have to realize that at the moment the advantage is not in their favor and this should make them think from the beginning to try to improve the condition of the team first rather than looking for rivalries. Although in the end rivalry is important especially since they are one of the big clubs in La Liga but there are important things they have to do before making them competitive again, namely improving finances which until now has been a major problem for Barcelona.

This problem is too allowed to drag on which just makes them look the same and does not become optimal in the end in terms of performance even though competition remains but when their performance is not too optimal then the results remain the same where Madrid is always above them.
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Mbappé will probably be in the first 11 in the match against Atalanta tomorrow. Ancelotti sees him as one of the team's important stars. And this is normal because he is one of the best players in the world right now. Considering that he will definitely play in the first 11 at Real Madrid, I think he has made a logical decision. He has already contributed a lot to Paris Saint-Germain with his individual talents, but he has not received the individual awards he deserves. I think he will also receive individual awards while playing with Real Madrid.



This is the lineup according to Eurosports and Mbappe is starting the match. This is the first competitive game for the Frenchman and his opportunity to win his first European trophy. Winning this game will be a dream. come through for Kylian Mbappé and scoring a goal will make it more remarkable. Carlo Ancelotti will also face his first test of being able to harness the array of stars in Real Madrid. The club will pursue to win this competition for the sixth time after winning five out of nine appearances. We also need to look out for the Europa Cup hero Ademola Lookman, who will want to lead his club to their first trophy in this competition.
Lookman made Atalanta Europa League champions. He scored three goals against Bayer Leverkusen in the final. Even though they didn't look like favorites in this match, they are dangerous. Real Madrid will definitely win this match. There is a huge difference between the two teams in the Super Cup final. Real Madrid has a high level of squad quality. Atalanta will try to enjoy this match, if they win it will be a big shock.
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Barcelona is always ambitious even though they are in a financial crisis. This season is a step of renewal with Flick and it seems they will be very ready to compete with Real Madrid. On paper, Real Madrid is always the favorite, especially since the arrival of Mbappe certainly makes their explosive power even faster. But I see El Barca is also much more ready to accept the challenge. I certainly hope that not only those two teams can create competition but other teams like Atletico Madrid must also be able to create competition so that La Liga becomes more competitive.
I am not underrating Barcelona in the next coming Laliga campaign despite their financial crises. I know that Madrid has signed Mbappe, and Barcelona couldn’t sign any superstar everyone knows, they attempted to sign Niko Williams but failed due to player interest and also financial problems, but yet, I still can’t just conclude and give the Laliga title to Madrid because I am not satisfied with Madrid’s defense and Barcelona can win them despite their star players.
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I think Girona had a good team last season because they appeared quite consistent throughout the season and they achieved that with solid teamwork. They are indeed not a big team with lots of star players in it but that doesn't hide the fact that they are a good team. A good team's parameters are not always the number of star players they have, but how they play to win and get a good achievement by the time the season ends.
Girona performance was so admirable last season and the fact is that Griona is a great team, because with they way they performed in La Liga last season I can say that they’re not a good team, but the only there problems is that they’re not maintaining their consistent and that’s what stops them from achieving the league’s last season.

Furthermore, if we take look at the Girona performance last season right from the beginning of the season they performed very well because they where top of the table’s before they come relaxed their performance and allowed the others team over take their chances.
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Barcelona under the new coach would create a new generation Barcelona. Although they list their last match I still believe Barcelona are in the best form in recent years. The signing made this season are very thoughtful and would definitely set the up for a good season. Although I would have loved to see Nico Williams join in but regardless I am excited about the other signings made.

Real Madrid are already very complete and would be the only threat stopping Barcelona this season in the Spanish laliga
Barcelona is always ambitious even though they are in a financial crisis. This season is a step of renewal with Flick and it seems they will be very ready to compete with Real Madrid. On paper, Real Madrid is always the favorite, especially since the arrival of Mbappe certainly makes their explosive power even faster. But I see El Barca is also much more ready to accept the challenge. I certainly hope that not only those two teams can create competition but other teams like Atletico Madrid must also be able to create competition so that La Liga becomes more competitive.
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Barcelona under the new coach would create a new generation Barcelona. Although they list their last match I still believe Barcelona are in the best form in recent years. The signing made this season are very thoughtful and would definitely set the up for a good season. Although I would have loved to see Nico Williams join in but regardless I am excited about the other signings made.

Real Madrid are already very complete and would be the only threat stopping Barcelona this season in the Spanish laliga
Hmm you are really certain and strong about this Barcelona team and their new coach and players because the manner at which I read the context of this your message just makes me sight the strong optimism around this Barcelona team but if am to say anything I would definitely tell or advice you to atleast lower it because for now you can't practically know any team that is going to do well because the pre-season can be a lot confusing.
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