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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on October 06, 2022, 02:50:39 AM

Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking?

So far hacking is not a big issue in the casino industry, we seldom see casinos getting hacked, because they are using a third-party script like a White label, so the admin of casinos can concentrate on what matters most and that is to market their casino

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White labels are in some ways like a franchise for betting, the brand owner pays for the service and attracts the users while the operator actually provides the product and manages the customer.

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If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

These are old casinos and top casinos in the industry, like Stake.com, Duelbits, Fortunejack there were no news of hacking on these casinos.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on October 06, 2022, 02:50:39 AM

Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

They might have their own ways of determining the bugs that could be existing in their platforms. So, if you don't see them do that, it's also likely that they're investing more into their security and their own developers are the ones that are finding if there's any fault within their system.

Anyway, as long as the casino is running smoothly and there's no problem found, they only have to maintain the current security that they have and as well as always find a way to upgrade if there's available with their security vendor or provider.

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it is their choice mate , the gambling business is wide and each needs big capital so I think that those businesses are better to hire Bounty Hunters to find Bugs because this will also make good profit from saving losses in bugs.

Quote from: bakasabo on October 07, 2022, 03:15:14 AM

Isnt it dangerous for gambling platforms to run bug bounties ? Basically they welcome hackers and abusers to test their defense. It will be on users conscience to point on a bug and get $100-$1000 reward or to use exploit and get several times more, or use it until casino notice they are loosing money. If projects run bug bounties it is simpler, they might lose only their own tokens, that might never have value. With casinos, ever bug is loosing money.

for once I believe that fortunejack conducted this in the past? year 2020 if I am not mistaken but look at them now?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on October 06, 2022, 02:50:39 AM

Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

I don't think they need a bug bounty program to test their security. This is because, I feel they have a lot of funds to hire testers, or even a dedicated team of testers for their site.

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Isnt it dangerous for gambling platforms to run bug bounties ? Basically they welcome hackers and abusers to test their defense. It will be on users conscience to point on a bug and get $100-$1000 reward or to use exploit and get several times more, or use it until casino notice they are loosing money. If projects run bug bounties it is simpler, they might lose only their own tokens, that might never have value. With casinos, ever bug is loosing money.

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You can personally check for some bugs for the casino you wish to do so and inform them about the same explaining them the whole situation and how it can be exploited.So if it's genuine and there is bug they can reward you depending on how big security issues you have solved.

But if you say about bounties then they have specified team for this purpose now and pay them good to solve and constantly test the bugs on the site so it remains fair so not many offer these rewards now.

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So far the gambling sites have had good security so they probably don't need the bug bounty.
there are many new gambling platforms on this forum that can be trusted and obviously they already have their own development team for bugs on the web.

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I think that gambling sites do not use the opportunity to pay for errors identified by advanced users for the reason that if they publicly announce such an opportunity, this will negatively affect the overall public image of the casino.
Because such an announcement means the possibility of insufficiently good website software. It's not worth devs to say so, why should devs spoil their image and, accordingly, lose customers? Of course they hide possible software errors.
That is why we do not see such public announcements of rewards for identified bugs.

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Quote from: rodskee on October 06, 2022, 11:15:15 PM

Quote from: Piesel on October 06, 2022, 06:53:20 PM

This is the duty of the security department and that is why the security department is the final court for judgment as it relates to abuse in the system be it from customers or hackers that make any attempt to abuse the platform.

Even How good the security department is , yet Bug will always occur because there is no perfect site creation meaning there will always a small bug to come this is why OP is asking about players view to find Bug and they will be paid.

Bugs will always exist in a system but if they have an expert security team, I think they can solve and fix the bug so it won't interfere with their business. Casinos may hire experts outside of their security team to detect any vulnerabilities on their website or even their servers because it is for the smooth running of their business. And I'm sure they will prepare more funds to maintain security on their site. And the casino may also provide some reward for players or people who find the bug by accident.

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Because I think Some Gambling sites uses this also to their advantages? I mean if the player/gambler wins with Bug then they can just confiscate or at least locked their account? I'm not sure if this is going to happen or something provided this as valid reason for banning and taking their funds but I think there is a possibilities ?

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Though there are already site that have this in the past what we can see is lesser of them tries to seek for this kind of help that will bring big favor in their site.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on October 06, 2022, 02:50:39 AM

Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

I just don't know which crypto-gambling platforms have a record of being hacked. Because so far the crypto gambling that I know of is still able

to operate, I have not seen any of them have an issue or problem regarding that matter. So if there are any, could you please let me know what

they are? so that others can also be aware of that matter here OP? Besides the bug bounty that OP mentions, do you know of any gambling

platforms that use this style?

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on October 06, 2022, 02:50:39 AM

Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

Earlier many sites used to have these type of bounties, so that instead of taking profit from it, users will report it to the official team.
Many new sites are lacking these bounties, maybe they don’t know about this ?
Nevertheless if you talk about more secure site, then I would say stake.com.
I have been playing there from half a decade and believe me, it’s the best gambling site present in the market in terms of security.
Rest is up to you OP.

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Quote from: Piesel on October 06, 2022, 06:53:20 PM

This is the duty of the security department and that is why the security department is the final court for judgment as it relates to abuse in the system be it from customers or hackers that make any attempt to abuse the platform.

Even How good the security department is , yet Bug will always occur because there is no perfect site creation meaning there will always a small bug to come this is why OP is asking about players view to find Bug and they will be paid.

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In the past casino, owners make public bounties for testers who will help them detect any bug in their system, but recent updates don't need that anymore as their internal security teams can keep up with the task of protecting the site from invaders.

which Past casino owners are you referring here mate? because from what I understand and remember there is only one casino that made this bounty here and that is FortuneJack, is there any casuno that provide bounty as well?

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Aren't most casino sites pre-built? Like the owners just buy the site itself and they hire an IT team to manage it and that's it. Most casinos wouldn't exactly hire a team to build the site from the ground up especially if you consider how most casinos are basically the same all around in terms of functionality and whatnot. There was a case though afaik of one casino having a bug that happened here, it was quite a big issue since the one who found it used it to get quite a bit of money (but didn't fully take advantage of it iirc?) and then went on to luckily win big in a different game (this was pure luck afaik) using the money he won from the bug.

Sides, you not seeing any bug bounty doesn't exactly mean that their security is bad or that they're not doing it themselves. They might be doing it on a different platform suited for bug bounties, they don't necessarily need to do it here since this isn't a bug bounty forum.

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As far as I know, there's a bug bounty event happening here in the community and that's the one I experience instead they are now offering some of the reviews right now as part of their promotions some instances there are a chance that they hired already a Quality Assurance tester before releasing in the community to have a better experience. It is better to hire a bounty hunter with experience with a contract so they make sure the information is safe and does not get a data breach for their system.

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It's probably because this has already been well taken care of by their security team? Or perhaps they're already hiring reliable security personnel to do the security audit or the step-by-step checking? So far, there seems to be no urgent reason to shift to another approach. Quite contrary to your claim, it seems there isn't really big news about crypto gambling websites falling to hackers.

But if you do find out a bug in one of these platforms, you might want to communicate with them and probably receive a reward commensurate to what you've discovered.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on October 06, 2022, 02:50:39 AM

Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

You mean to do it in this forum? it's true that not as many casinos do signature campaigns on this fourm and only one can be found on this forum and that was done a few years ago, but it's very likely that they did it outside this forum.
Exchange is actually the one that gets hacked more than the casino and the one that gets hacked a lot is not the casino itself but the user account.
What is more often experienced by casinos is DDoS attacks so that users find it difficult to access to play so this can be detrimental to the casino because there is no income during the attack.

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Quote from: Wakate on October 06, 2022, 06:41:12 PM

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on October 06, 2022, 02:50:39 AM

Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

It seems you are not always current at the service section because I have seen many casinos doing that, asking for review of their platform in the aspect of security, interface and features that will keep their casino up to date and we'll secured. This is mostly done by new casinos that is getting into the casino world and we don't see that frequently.
I think more concentration should be put on that to ensure that user's safety is guaranteed. Checking for vulnerability and safety of casino frequently is very important which I know many big gambling platform used to do with different tools and workers that are checkmating for any possible leak that could lead to loss of asset.

yes, indeed! from time to time, i also encountered new casinos holding some sort of bug bounty program. though it is not common for most. but i believe, these casinos will always have their security team as we are talking about money here that goes in and out from their site at any time of the day. without any sort of protection, they can be bankrupt anytime owed to hackers. for the established ones, i am certain they have their own people who are taking care of all security concerns. this is one of the vital departments that casinos and sportsbooks should always have.
for me, this is a non-negotiable aspect for any gambling site who want to have their operations always up and running without bothering about their security protocols.

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This is the duty of the security department and that is why the security department is the final court for judgment as it relates to abuse in the system be it from customers or hackers that make any attempt to abuse the platform.

In the past casino, owners make public bounties for testers who will help them detect any bug in their system, but recent updates don't need that anymore as their internal security teams can keep up with the task of protecting the site from invaders.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on October 06, 2022, 02:50:39 AM

Why aren't gambling websites using bug bounties to test-run their platform security? I haven't seen any gambling platform doing this, maybe that's why most gambling websites became prone to hacking? If I am wrong what gambling project do you think have the most secured system?, peace.

Online Casino is not new these days and they build already a stable code over many years of operating including bug bounty during there early days. I believe some old casino still offer this bug bounty thing IIRC Bitsler but with minimal reward. You can only see this kind of event on new casino built on blockchain not with off-chain casino.

There's only rare scenario that online casino being hacked these days except those using hack as reason to escape. Do your bug hunt on crypto project if you really want to have a job. Casino has there own security team to do this job.

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