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Quote from: wiss19 on May 07, 2023, 04:26:15 AM

Apart from all the technical stuff, RTP, odds, etc., it depends on one's personal preferences and timetable about how they want to gamble, those who have enough spare time and love land-based casinos will probably prefer that, and those who like playing games and want more varieties will surely go for online slots since there are a lot of games available.

Personally, I think it's more convenient playing online since there is basically no hassle and you also get higher multipliers if you are lucky. As said by everyone, it's way more difficult to get any big wins when you are playing slots in a land-based casino.

Forget about the technical sectors, complex sites requires equivalent working energy and experience. Land-based casinos are mostly for high-stakes players who want to make an enormous amount of money. Gambling has a variety of possibilities and motivations. Casino players devised strategies to increase their income from online casinos. I prefer to bet online because it is simple to understand and place bets. It's incredibly reasonable and simple to put bets there, and there's a good selection of online casinos with reasonable odds.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on May 06, 2023, 03:25:16 PM

For the casino owners who say that they don't have the info, how come?

Almost all online casinos, whether fiat or crypto, use third-party game providers.

Casino owners don't have access to those games "technically".

Quote from: Webetcoins on May 06, 2023, 03:25:16 PM

I think they will check their games first before they deploy it in public because what if the games have a higher RTP than usual? It will only make them lose easily.

It doesn't mean that the provided RTP is high, the winning chance is great. That's not how RTP works. Even for a 95% RTP, the chances of losing are more to happen compared to winning. High RTP sometimes misleads online gamblers into thinking the return will be great.

If that's the case, RTP won't be invented in the first place and used as an attraction to gamblers.

Quote from: Webetcoins on May 06, 2023, 03:25:16 PM

Land based casino might have a better ambiance but there are still other things that needs to be sacrifice other than RTP.

From the very first place, there's no need to compare Land-Based Casinos and Online Casinos in terms of their respective general characteristics e.g ambiance, comfortability, convenience, environment, etc. Comparing the technical side should be more appropriate.

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Even though a higher RTP seems like this is a personal preference, people today are still in the quarantine environment, so one of their choices to get satisfied is through online gambling without getting less hassle and more convenience than just making a deposit. They can play immediately; physical gambling gives a different ambience in gambling casinos. Still, of course, people could enjoy this if there are a lot of players and competitors with additional perks such as the RTP, both are expensive, but based on my experience, it's more costly with the physical casino because you need a ton of employee unlike with the online hire a developer team to maintain and manage.

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Quote from: wiss19 on May 07, 2023, 04:26:15 AM

Apart from all the technical stuff, RTP, odds, etc., it depends on one's personal preferences and timetable about how they want to gamble, those who have enough spare time and love land-based casinos will probably prefer that, and those who like playing games and want more varieties will surely go for online slots since there are a lot of games available.

Personally, I think it's more convenient playing online since there is basically no hassle and you also get higher multipliers if you are lucky. As said by everyone, it's way more difficult to get any big wins when you are playing slots in a land-based casino.

We are more comfortable playing at online casinos because we have found something that can protect our identity or show the public that we are gamblers. Besides that, we play gambling using crypto, which means we don't want anyone to know that we are gambling.

But for the RTP problem, I don't think it's too affected because if it's a slot game where it really depends on luck, we won't be able to win easily. We will surely face many defeats that can bankrupt us if we are not aware of it.

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Quote from: Broadanbig on May 06, 2023, 09:30:23 AM

In this part of the world where I came from gamblers are not really given or accorded some level of respect based on the gmfact that they gamble. They are seen as irresponsible and careless onec it is noticed it seen that you are coming out from a gambling joint notbti talk of the fact that you are noted to be a gambler.
I am not trying to say that gambling is bad but I am only trying to let you know what it is here hence my restrictions on land gambling.

What did you mean? You mean that gambling is not seen as something good in your area? Or that because gambling is not seen as something good in your area, people are not gambling on land based casinos and they will prefer to gamble online?

If it is the second that you meant, because something is not legal does not mean there are no shaddy places that something like that is not done in that country. Also in online casinos, if you read their terms of service, many countries or regions are not allowed to gamble too. But there are ways gamblers still try to gamble, though their money is more at risk.

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Apart from all the technical stuff, RTP, odds, etc., it depends on one's personal preferences and timetable about how they want to gamble, those who have enough spare time and love land-based casinos will probably prefer that, and those who like playing games and want more varieties will surely go for online slots since there are a lot of games available.

Personally, I think it's more convenient playing online since there is basically no hassle and you also get higher multipliers if you are lucky. As said by everyone, it's way more difficult to get any big wins when you are playing slots in a land-based casino.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on May 05, 2023, 07:10:01 AM

It's nothing new if most gamblers playing in land based casino is for fun, while most gamblers playing in online casino is for making money.

Although in online casino is better than land based casino regarding it's odds or RTP, but the house is still has higher chance to win. Due to private, active 24/7 and easier to access, many gamblers are more addicted in online casino rather than land based casino.

I agree with your statement.

According to my experience, when a person plays slots physically, they are there in the casino to experience the whole package (e.g. amenities, food, entertainment, environment, etc.) and all the complementaries being offered. When I tried doing slots in a physical casino, I enjoyed my time even if I was not able to win since the whole experience and ambience of the casino were great.

Compared to online slots, this kind of game involves you pressing and mashing your phone, hoping for a win. I remembered I watched my uncle playing online slots and he was playing for a win. He kept on borrowing money almost every week just to satisfy his thirst in winning in online slots.

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Conclusion: Land based slot is only good to play if you only want to become entertained since their RTP and max payout is ridiculous. Online slot on the other hand offers high return since they have lesser operating cost and high payout is there main attraction. People should stop hitting the land based casino if there main purpose is hitting a jackpot because it’s really not worth it.

I can agree with what you have said about hitting Jackpot in Land Based Slot and online slots, but we need to add that this is the situation in recent time, and it has had to be so because of how much things have changed.

I may not really agree with this because there's no way we can compare an online games with the physical ones and talking about slot game in general, i believe those that have been interested in this kind of game where the casino house freak gamblers who had enough experience in gambling over years unlike our own era of young generation just learning about gambling, both land or online base slot were equally interesting to play.

Quote from: Rruchi man on May 06, 2023, 03:52:43 PM

What I mean is this, before Online slots, people have won jackpots playing in Land based slots, and considering that the operational cost was not always as high as it is presently, we can assume that they offered better Jackpots.

Each has it own challenges but i wouldn't want to believe that one is better than other since we all can have our different opinions i selection while the slot had to consider their own profitability.

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Quote from: Betwrong on May 06, 2023, 05:48:04 AM

I think all slots, online and land based ones, should only be used for entertainment purposes. Even though the RTP of online slots is more favourable for us gamblers, hitting the jackpot remains very unlikely, and we shouldn't count on it, we shouldn't think "I have more chances here, so I'll play here." Play wherever you like, where it's more entertaining for you, and it can be land based slots for some people, although I personally prefer online slots.

I like your statement budy, and totally agree that land and online slots are only good for entertainment purposes because this type of game relies on luck to win.
RTP might be able to help gamblers to get back some of the money used to play but with a high RTP it doesn't necessarily guarantee getting the jackpot because the jackpot is very difficult to get even those gamblers who are reliable in gane slots can't necessarily get the jackpot every time .

You are a gambler who has quite a lot of experience and I also want to be like you where you can have unlimited insight and experience in the gambling industry.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on May 05, 2023, 03:59:24 AM

Conclusion: Land based slot is only good to play if you only want to become entertained since their RTP and max payout is ridiculous. Online slot on the other hand offers high return since they have lesser operating cost and high payout is there main attraction. People should stop hitting the land based casino if there main purpose is hitting a jackpot because it’s really not worth it.

I can agree with what you have said about hitting Jackpot in Land Based Slot and online slots, but we need to add that this is the situation in recent time, and it has had to be so because of how much things have changed.

What I mean is this, before Online slots, people have won jackpots playing in Land based slots, and considering that the operational cost was not always as high as it is presently, we can assume that they offered better Jackpots.

Online slots also have had to increase its jackpot significantly higher than the Land based slots as a business strategy to gian attention from gamblers, it is also normal to reason that these jackpots may be reduced with time.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on May 06, 2023, 03:25:16 PM

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For the casino owners who say that they don't have the info, how come? I think they will check their games first before they deploy it in public because what if the games have a higher RTP than usual? It will only make them lose easily. They will always ask their developer about it or their devs are the ones who will said it first to them. Land based casino might have a better ambiance but there are still other things that needs to be sacrifice other than RTP.

^ Probably they understand that their reputation and profitability depend on the fairness and integrity of their games. So I think they keep updating their developer and try to be transparent to the public. Developers were responsible for this RTP and to ensure the accuracy of an online casino's RTP is to compare it with the RTP published by the game's developer. Most reputable game developers will publish the RTP for their games on their websites, so players can compare the two numbers to see if they match. We can also look for licensed and regulated casinos, and compare the displayed RTP with the developer's published RTP.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on May 05, 2023, 03:45:32 PM

There had been lots of articles about the differences between RTP land-based slots and online casino slots. These articles agreed that land-based slots had a lesser RTP than the online casino. Though it is somehow hard to obtain the RTP of the land-based slots, but if we are eager we can get the data on the state gaming reports. It requires a lot of effort in finding the RTP of a landbased casino while it is so easy when it comes to Online gambling casinos. We can't just email the land based casino staff and asked for the RTP of a certain slot because more often than not, they will answer that they don't have the information.

Many articles also discourage players to play in a land-based casino if they wanted to have a higher RTP. But if you wanted to feel the atmosphere of a casino, going to a land-based casino is way better than an online casino. This is one of the advantages of a land-based casino.

Why not ask directly the owner or the staffs of that casino? If it's possible for online casino to provide these data's then why not them? But they can also lie if they want to, and say that their games has a high RTP when the truth is it only have less because we active gamblers have a good senses when it comes to these matters.

For the casino owners who say that they don't have the info, how come? I think they will check their games first before they deploy it in public because what if the games have a higher RTP than usual? It will only make them lose easily. They will always ask their developer about it or their devs are the ones who will said it first to them. Land based casino might have a better ambiance but there are still other things that needs to be sacrifice other than RTP.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on May 06, 2023, 01:32:15 AM

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All through I have only had the experience of online casino. Some times it's a happy moment and sometimes it is just like that. I think I would try the land casino and see how it goes but one of the major things scaring me away from land casino is privacy which I do much cherish most but however, I will still give it a try first.

Privacy that no one knows that you are gambling? Is there anything bad to gamble publicly? If I gambling on an land based casinos, that does not mean my privacy is compromised as long that I am using just the little I have to gamble. But I understand you though, with online casino, no one knows that you are gambling, but the KYC that many gamblers overlook alone breach privacy.

Quote from: Broadanbig on May 05, 2023, 03:54:53 PM

I think both casinos spend heavily to go by but online casino likely spends more than the other looking at the features in comparison. I have no doubt about that.

Online casinos sees more traffic and they spend more in my opinion. Also online casinos gain more though and no congestion online.

In this part of the world where I came from gamblers are not really given or accorded some level of respect based on the gmfact that they gamble. They are seen as irresponsible and careless onec it is noticed it seen that you are coming out from a gambling joint notbti talk of the fact that you are noted to be a gambler.
I am not trying to say that gambling is bad but I am only trying to let you know what it is here hence my restrictions on land gambling.

I also have no doubt about the online casinos spending much because I know for sure they would have huge traffic so to avoid interruption, they would need to get the best of gadgets and facilities to sustain them.
We should also note that they make high returns as well but but the irregularities as regards to account banning and suspension is getting out of hand.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on May 05, 2023, 03:59:24 AM

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Conclusion: Land based slot is only good to play if you only want to become entertained since their RTP and max payout is ridiculous. Online slot on the other hand offers high return since they have lesser operating cost and high payout is there main attraction. People should stop hitting the land based casino if there main purpose is hitting a jackpot because it’s really not worth it. Land base slot has a low jackpot prize and you need to bet high amount in able to have a chance to get it while online slot can give you the chance to hit that kind of jackpot with lower bet amount.

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I think all slots, online and land based ones, should only be used for entertainment purposes. Even though the RTP of online slots is more favourable for us gamblers, hitting the jackpot remains very unlikely, and we shouldn't count on it, we shouldn't think "I have more chances here, so I'll play here." Play wherever you like, where it's more entertaining for you, and it can be land based slots for some people, although I personally prefer online slots.

Overall, great observation, @Coin_trader. +1

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The real question is this :

How do you determine if the RTP being used by 3rd party Slot providers and original games.... are what is shown by the online casino? This is not validated by any regulatory organization.

The RTP and the RNG and the server seed are audited by authorities with oversight on the operations of brick n mortar casinos. (land based) ..so you know the configuration of the slots are what is advertised. (It is written to a CHIP and it is logged by the machines)

So do not believe that the configuration of the online slots are what it is supposed to be.... because it takes 1 000 000+ bets to test it. Angry

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Quote from: Coin_trader on May 05, 2023, 03:59:24 AM

Based on other user experience, Other casino put a 99% RTP sign on one of the machine to mislead players that all slots have same RTP while in reality its only that single slot have high RTP in the row and the rest has low RTP.

Technically, it's a trick that land-based casinos use and they aren't lying. The trick is saying "play on our slot machines with RTP rates of up to 99%." They don't claim all machines have RTP returns of 99%, just that some or one of them has. It's not lying, it's playing a game with words that many players overlook. They only see the 99% statement and miserably fail to read the important words that precede it.

I haven't spent too much time in physical casinos, but I doubt they would point to the exact machine that has the highest RTPs. That's simply not good business, as players would be rushing to play on it. Ultimately, it would cause somewhat more frequent payouts.

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Quote from: Broadanbig on May 05, 2023, 03:54:53 PM

All through I have only had the experience of online casino. Some times it's a happy moment and sometimes it is just like that. I think I would try the land casino and see how it goes but one of the major things scaring me away from land casino is privacy which I do much cherish most but however, I will still give it a try first.

Privacy that no one knows that you are gambling? Is there anything bad to gamble publicly? If I gambling on an land based casinos, that does not mean my privacy is compromised as long that I am using just the little I have to gamble. But I understand you though, with online casino, no one knows that you are gambling, but the KYC that many gamblers overlook alone breach privacy.

Quote from: Broadanbig on May 05, 2023, 03:54:53 PM

I think both casinos spend heavily to go by but online casino likely spends more than the other looking at the features in comparison. I have no doubt about that.

Online casinos sees more traffic and they spend more in my opinion. Also online casinos gain more though and no congestion online.

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Gamblers have different course to play with either a landbase casino with some physical location or to focus there gambling online. I think the chief of them all is how to prove that, they ate being served a provable fair game. No one wants to gamble at a table or screen where the odds are 51% against you. Nope, you want things 50:50 and that's how it's should be.
This becomes the issue for most between Landbase and Online casinos and matter the theories put in place to give gamblers comfort and earn trust, there obviously would be some doubt on what is being sold to them.

Be it as it may,
Am more comfortable with online gambling as it really do give me comfort, you can switch games with ease, fund and make withdrawals with ease and you do that without having to care about nothing else in your immediate environment.

people have their own preferences. whatever it is, just take advantage of what they offer to you. some are still into land-based casinos playing slots as the experience is quite different over online casinos. however, if you want to play at the comfort of your home without no one bothering you, you can very well play on your laptop or desktop. at the end, it is all a matter of preference here.
but do remember, some of these traditional gamblers still stick to physical casinos as they are used to it. so these land-based casinos will still have their loyal patrons. most younger gen may prefer the online casinos for so many reasons.

I understand that people have different preferences in terms of gambling, while others prefer physical or IRL slots, there are some like me who doesn't have access on physical slots near me. I remembered back then there was one that was acknowledge by our local government, but at that time I was still underage and my parents wouldn't let me play due to the fact that it was still gambling and they're afraid that I'll be addicted and would skip my studies due to that. When I reached the certain age where I'm already considered legal, it was no longer there and was removed by the authorities, so it's safe to say that I haven't touched slots in my whole life although I had fun watching those people who played those machines way back years ago. Right now though, it's a different story since there have been lots of slots online popping out everywhere and I got the chance to play from time to time.

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I would stick to online slots, why? Besides the reasons you mentioned there is also the fact that thanks to online casinos and gambling, people now can experiment all kind of slots, an infinite number of designs, providers, configurations, colors and themes.

It does not matter how big a physical casino can be, they cannot compete with the variety of slots online, it is ideal for those who are seeking to know what kind of slots are they into.

On the other hand, at your nearest casino you would need to adapt to the handful of options they offer. Tongue

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Any land-based casinos aren't really known to be generous when it comes to RTP. They'd screw you ten times over and you will not have a word on what they are running on their casino. In slots, what I would suggest is that you watch people play first, ensure they haven't won anything substantial, and immediately fill their spot and play where they left off. IIRC, whatever they lost on that machine will carry forward to the next user until the win threshold is hit, and those are the machines you want to be on. It takes a lot of patience though, but it is worth it, especially if you hit the jackpot off of those machines.

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