Pages:
Author

Topic: Las Vegas judge gets attacked in court (Read 162 times)

jr. member
Activity: 65
Merit: 1
January 13, 2024, 02:52:17 AM
#21
Relayable source said that this is
Not really the first time it has happened and most likely not the last
just like the assassination of Julius Caesar where he was literally stabbed during their meeting at the senate some people are greedy and violent unfortunately and attacks or assassinations would always be present in our world it is quite saddening and disappointing of course to think how could people do this it is also a question i can not answer.Lots of things sound stupid and ineffective to you. Remember that you have said several times that you are not a US citizen, and therefore don't know about how the US works... or words to that effect.

Declarations about being a sovereign citizen are stupid. Why? If you are a citizen, you are not sovereign. If you are sovereign, you aren't a citizen. If someone uses that term, he needs to add explanation about it so that it's not contradictory on its face.

There are people in the US who have used the idea of 'no contract' with the government to contract out of problems with government. As I have explained in other posts, writing the words "non-assumpsit" on the signature line ahead of your signature means "no-contract" regarding what you are signing. Depending on the info that you write in the contract, it can mean exactly that, no contract. However, if you show that you are contracting by the words within the body of the contract, you are contradicting yourself by using "non-assumpsit," and your word and signature are deemed not trustworthy. A wise person won't do business with you in this case.

Consider "Fraud upon the Court," and "Fraud upon the Court by the Court." Those are legal terms that have been used by many people regarding their case for over a hundred years... where the judge has made a mistake and will not correct it. All it is, is contracting out of a judicial decision where the decision seems to be wrong. Also, if you are really interested, check out https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Fraud+upon+the+Court+by+the+Court%2C+cornell&ia=web. This will start to show you both the simplicity and the complexity of the US legal system.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 2025
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 12, 2024, 11:15:27 PM
#20
By the way. Alledgely that man suffers from bipolar disorder and Squizophrenia and alledgely did not receive any kind of medicine during his stay in police custody. If that is true, perhaps this incident could also have something to do with the care (or the lack of care) which was supposed to be provided by the police station for this inmate during the waiting for his appearance before this judge.
Again, I do not know how the legal system is supposed to work on the treatment of the inmates or those accused of a crime, but I would have expected some taxpayer dollars were used to keep this man on his medication while behind bars, perhaps that could have prevented this senseless attack from happening in court.

I am not defending his actions though. It would be foolish to do so after witnessing what he is capable of, just wondering whether those allegations are true or not.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
January 09, 2024, 03:01:57 PM
#19
^ Y’all are attributing a quote to me that I didn’t say…

Life comes at you fast…



Is that a picture of the joker who attacked the judge? Lol. He couldn't attack a mosquito trussed up as he is. However...

I am not speaking against you or anything you said. I totally agree that people who do bad things should be punished for the bad things that they do... and be shown mercy when they sincerely repent.

My point is that the judicial system is just as bad as the crooks, such as the bad guy in the picture. They are simply way more shrewd about it. And, they have a totally different way of going about it.

Cool
donator
Activity: 4718
Merit: 4218
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 08, 2024, 04:22:29 PM
#18
^ Y’all are attributing a quote to me that I didn’t say…

Life comes at you fast…

legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
January 08, 2024, 03:31:35 PM
#17
...

More than likely, if somebody contracted out of US Constitution and laws, nothing would happen to him. People are too 'sheeple' to do anything to him outside of the laws... most of the time. However, he could be wrong about that, and somebody just might shoot him dead on the spot

Then THAT shooter guy would have to contract out of the Constitution and laws to keep from being adjudicated to be a murder. But because he did a social service to the community, people might cheer him rather than lynch him.

A point is, probably it's a good idea that bad guys don't know about the Contract Clause and how they could uses it... because some of them would get away with the bad that they are doing... which happens enough as it is.

Cool

That sounds almost as stupid and ineffective as some random guy declaring himself to be a sovereign citizen as a legal defense. If people in your country could opt out of being held to account through the way your describe then there would be already people using it to get away with all sorts of crimes and bad deeds. I don't know anything about the legal system in the United States but I can tell that like in any other western society, the people of your country are subjected to the law established there as long as they are citizens of USA and reside there.
Otherwise, I would have already seen some bank-robber being released from prison because he renounced the contract he had with the USA government or whatever you are talking about.
Perhaps, you should give Trump a call and talk about that silver bullet of a legal defense (or lack of it), so he can get away with all the indictments he has over him.

It is kind of weird his team of very expensive lawyers have not mentioned such option for him yet, dont you think?  Roll Eyes



Lots of things sound stupid and ineffective to you. Remember that you have said several times that you are not a US citizen, and therefore don't know about how the US works... or words to that effect.

Declarations about being a sovereign citizen are stupid. Why? If you are a citizen, you are not sovereign. If you are sovereign, you aren't a citizen. If someone uses that term, he needs to add explanation about it so that it's not contradictory on its face.

There are people in the US who have used the idea of 'no contract' with the government to contract out of problems with government. As I have explained in other posts, writing the words "non-assumpsit" on the signature line ahead of your signature means "no-contract" regarding what you are signing. Depending on the info that you write in the contract, it can mean exactly that, no contract. However, if you show that you are contracting by the words within the body of the contract, you are contradicting yourself by using "non-assumpsit," and your word and signature are deemed not trustworthy. A wise person won't do business with you in this case.

Consider "Fraud upon the Court," and "Fraud upon the Court by the Court." Those are legal terms that have been used by many people regarding their case for over a hundred years... where the judge has made a mistake and will not correct it. All it is, is contracting out of a judicial decision where the decision seems to be wrong. Also, if you are really interested, check out https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Fraud+upon+the+Court+by+the+Court%2C+cornell&ia=web. This will start to show you both the simplicity and the complexity of the US legal system.

Also, you miss the whole point of contracting into the US legal systems. As I said, if the joker contracts out of being heard or being under the judicial system, the people who have been harmed by him, have no other recourse. They might simply, covertly, hire a hit man to take the joker out, simply because he owes them something for his wrongdoing, and the Constitution and laws failed them. So, the point is to remain contracted in, so that you fall under "due process of law" where you have the chance of being set free legally.

As far as what Trump is doing, he probably realizes this^^ stuff, even if he hasn't put it into simple words like this. You need to remember that Trump is acknowledging the Constitution and laws, because he is running for President. Until we become much more knowledgeable about law, and advised about the details of Trump's case, there is no way to determine what is the best course for him to take.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 2025
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 07, 2024, 10:08:34 PM
#16
...

More than likely, if somebody contracted out of US Constitution and laws, nothing would happen to him. People are too 'sheeple' to do anything to him outside of the laws... most of the time. However, he could be wrong about that, and somebody just might shoot him dead on the spot

Then THAT shooter guy would have to contract out of the Constitution and laws to keep from being adjudicated to be a murder. But because he did a social service to the community, people might cheer him rather than lynch him.

A point is, probably it's a good idea that bad guys don't know about the Contract Clause and how they could uses it... because some of them would get away with the bad that they are doing... which happens enough as it is.

Cool

That sounds almost as stupid and ineffective as some random guy declaring himself to be a sovereign citizen as a legal defense. If people in your country could opt out of being held to account through the way your describe then there would be already people using it to get away with all sorts of crimes and bad deeds. I don't know anything about the legal system in the United States but I can tell that like in any other western society, the people of your country are subjected to the law established there as long as they are citizens of USA and reside there.
Otherwise, I would have already seen some bank-robber being released from prison because he renounced the contract he had with the USA government or whatever you are talking about.
Perhaps, you should give Trump a call and talk about that silver bullet of a legal defense (or lack of it), so he can get away with all the indictments he has over him.

It is kind of weird his team of very expensive lawyers have not mentioned such option for him yet, dont you think?  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
January 07, 2024, 01:15:01 PM
#15
That judge is about to lay the smack down on this guy… I read that she’s demanding he appear in court on Monday, “by any and all means necessary.” I wouldn’t doubt if he’s dragged into court wearing shackles and gagged… At the very least he’ll be lectured and likely baited into yet another contempt of court charge. This will be one to watch.

Perhaps it isn't the duty of the judge to explain even basic, fundamental law to people. The Contract Clause in the Constitution has been adjudicated to mean that people can contract in or out of contracts.

What happens if somebody contracts out of the US laws? After all, they have the right. To understand this, one needs to know what the Constitution and laws exist for. And, simply stated, here it is. The Constitution and laws exist for one thing... which is for the orderly operation of society.

If somebody uses the Contract Clause to contract out of the whole SYSTEM, that means he is opening himself up to mob correction if he does anything wrong. It's like all the lynching parties that are probably still happening in some States, where the 'mob' simply takes the law into their own hands, and lynches the bad guy.

More than likely, if somebody contracted out of US Constitution and laws, nothing would happen to him. People are too 'sheeple' to do anything to him outside of the laws... most of the time. However, he could be wrong about that, and somebody just might shoot him dead on the spot

Then THAT shooter guy would have to contract out of the Constitution and laws to keep from being adjudicated to be a murder. But because he did a social service to the community, people might cheer him rather than lynch him.

A point is, probably it's a good idea that bad guys don't know about the Contract Clause and how they could uses it... because some of them would get away with the bad that they are doing... which happens enough as it is.

Cool
donator
Activity: 4718
Merit: 4218
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 05, 2024, 08:27:40 PM
#14
That judge is about to lay the smack down on this guy… I read that she’s demanding he appear in court on Monday, “by any and all means necessary.” I wouldn’t doubt if he’s dragged into court wearing shackles and gagged… At the very least he’ll be lectured and likely baited into yet another contempt of court charge. This will be one to watch.
hero member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 570
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 05, 2024, 07:42:40 PM
#13
I've seen the video and I don't know the whole context why the guy attacked the judge but it's all about the verdict I guess and that guy ran off towards the judge as he can't his emotions anymore while being read the sentence that he'll serve.

Can someone explain what "attempted battery" means in the legal sense? Also, what is the potential penalty for this offense?

I imagine he now faces a much longer prison sentence. Assaulting a state judge is a serious offense.
I have no idea about it as well but it can easily be searched and the results will come out as what you've asked with google.
Here's the link and result for you: https://open.lib.umn.edu/criminallaw/chapter/10-2-assault-and-battery/
It's a long page but I guess that you'll find the meaning of what you want to learn about assault, battery or anything that's related to it.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 2025
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 05, 2024, 02:46:32 PM
#12
We should not aactuslly spend  time and energy overthinking or analyzing what happened here what could have led to this person to believe he could physically attack a judge in front of everyone like that and assume something as stupid and reckless as that may have helped him with his case, facing justice. The explanation is rather simple, there are trully deranged and unhinged people out there in the world and I have got the feeling that kind if person is over represented in the prison system of the united states, this is not the first time I have seen it happening on video, and will likely not the last time.

Yeah, it's crazy how some people just do reckless stuff. The prison system seems to have its share of unhinged individuals. Not the first time I've seen something like this on video, hoping to be the last.

Many of them do those reckless things because them believe there is little left to lose, you know. So they do whatever they want in order to get revenge against the system who alledgely did wrong.
Have you ever followed the story of some famous criminals who wheres supposed to be convicted for life and got little left to lose? Even in the case of the United States, there are young people who believe they have got nothing left and in order to seek for revenge they take guns and start to shoot at anyone they can find in schools.
It is the same, in the rare occasion massshoters are captured by law enforcement officials, they continue to behave erratically in prison.

Nikolas Cruz, an infamous school shooter who killer over a dozen of people and while in costudy, physically assaulted a police officer. Just an example of the kind of people one can find behind bars and cornered.
sr. member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 292
Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
January 05, 2024, 11:01:45 AM
#11
I've seen some memes on social media, indeed this only happens in "that place Smiley ", I've also heard about many cases of attacking the police or talking a lot about freedom there.

But in this case, the guy just did more wrong, and it could lead to him having a judgment that haunts his future. Dissatisfaction can be understood given that feeling, but nonetheless, each person will have a different way of feeling and from this case we see more memes, having fun with the story.
full member
Activity: 994
Merit: 137
★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
January 05, 2024, 07:26:30 AM
#10
Can someone explain what "attempted battery" means in the legal sense? Also, what is the potential penalty for this offense?

I imagine he now faces a much longer prison sentence. Assaulting a state judge is a serious offense.
full member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 158
★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
January 05, 2024, 07:14:53 AM
#9
We should not aactuslly spend  time and energy overthinking or analyzing what happened here what could have led to this person to believe he could physically attack a judge in front of everyone like that and assume something as stupid and reckless as that may have helped him with his case, facing justice. The explanation is rather simple, there are trully deranged and unhinged people out there in the world and I have got the feeling that kind if person is over represented in the prison system of the united states, this is not the first time I have seen it happening on video, and will likely not the last time.

Yeah, it's crazy how some people just do reckless stuff. The prison system seems to have its share of unhinged individuals. Not the first time I've seen something like this on video, hoping to be the last.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 220
Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
January 05, 2024, 05:08:27 AM
#8
We should not aactuslly spend  time and energy overthinking or analyzing what happened here what could have led to this person to believe he could physically attack a judge in front of everyone like that and assume something as stupid and reckless as that may have helped him with his case, facing justice. The explanation is rather simple, there are trully deranged and unhinged people out there in the world and I have got the feeling that kind if person is over represented in the prison system of the united states, this is not the first time I have seen it happening on video, and will likely not the last time.

The guy's character if simply put in one word is "dumb", or what other naretive can we use to qualify his action, that is stupidity in the highest order. I hope that the full weight of the law is brought down on him to serve as a deterant to other dumb individuals that'll mistake foolishness for bravery. The world is full of deranged individuals and their mental health should be examined to determine whether they belong to rehab or prison. Although the judge's ruling against him might be biased, but attacking her car never be a viable option, instead it'll change the naretive of the case to be against him. We must monitor the behaviors of people that are close to use because some might be deranged and can harm us without thinking twice.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 2025
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 04, 2024, 09:02:14 PM
#7
We should not aactuslly spend  time and energy overthinking or analyzing what happened here what could have led to this person to believe he could physically attack a judge in front of everyone like that and assume something as stupid and reckless as that may have helped him with his case, facing justice. The explanation is rather simple, there are trully deranged and unhinged people out there in the world and I have got the feeling that kind if person is over represented in the prison system of the united states, this is not the first time I have seen it happening on video, and will likely not the last time.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 145
January 04, 2024, 06:36:25 PM
#6
Where is the world heading to?
He attacked her like he had a grudge against her before. I watched the video, not from this link though and all I could think off was how long his jail sentence was now going to be because he just added assault to a federal judge to his charges. Some people do not think before they act, and the man in the video is one example because this his actions have made him almost nonredeemable. I hope no life threatening injuries were inflicted on the judge, and a lesson can be learnt from this so it does not repeat itself or lead to even the death of a judge.
hero member
Activity: 1540
Merit: 564
Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
January 04, 2024, 02:52:52 PM
#5
World is moving away from civilization and everyone wants uninterrupted power to do whatever they want to do without bothering about the consequences I would say people are become more stupid which put others around them in danger, I mean who in the right sense of mind would stab a Judge? These guys either had poor upbringing or they are influenced by all the violences shown in the movies and media.

People with such issues should be put in rehabilitation.
donator
Activity: 4718
Merit: 4218
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 04, 2024, 02:42:58 PM
#4
Most people want a king rather than to be free. This guy wanted a king (the judge) until the king turned against him in ways he didn't like.

Cool

Seemed like he had a long history of doing bad things that the judge even mentioned before being attacked. This is the sort of behavior that will have him serving the maximum sentence. Attacking a judge has got to be the single most stupid thing a criminal could do. I imagine his time won’t be served in a very pleasing manner after this.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
January 04, 2024, 12:58:26 PM
#3
Most people want a king rather than to be free. This guy wanted a king (the judge) until the king turned against him in ways he didn't like.

Cool
full member
Activity: 2478
Merit: 210
Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!
January 04, 2024, 11:23:46 AM
#2
Quote from:  NBC News
Video captured the moments when Deobra Redden jumped over a bench and lunged at Judge Mary Kay Holthus during the sentencing hearing for an attempted battery charge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvr7IDPq2U


Dayumm.

Where is the world heading to?

Not really the first time it has happened and most likely not the last
just like the assassination of Julius Caesar where he was literally stabbed during their meeting at the senate some people are greedy and violent unfortunately and attacks or assassinations would always be present in our world it is quite saddening and disappointing of course to think how could people do this it is also a question i can not answer
Pages:
Jump to: