Topic: Lauda, Sold bitcointalk accounts, Giving neg for others for same reason. - page 2. (Read 4557 times)

The moment I start exposing The Pharmacist, you emerge out of nowhere and give me red tag. Hmmm, that s really convenient, isn't it? Your explanation for that neg tag is that I am "Stupid spammer". That is really strong, justified evidence for the tag, ha? A good one, I have to say, I did have a laugh when I saw that. Maybe you should add childish in between or DANGEROUS. I d suggest DANGEROUS!

Dude, I already told you and your alts, feel free to neg tag me as much as you want, actually, try to neg tag me more without reason, especially using this king of explanations, it s fun! I ve got nothing to lose here, I don't do and will never do sig campaigns and red tags can't hurt me, especially these unjustified ones. This makes me dangerous, ha! In your mind, I should be immediately banned cause I might expose false Bitcointalk guardians like you, who are actually account farmers and scammers, how they intentionally sabotage competition for their signature campaigns and hurt new users. I know there are really honest people here who keep assholes and scammers away of this forum, they do it for free and I salute that. But, there is this other, fake kind.

Cause if you were anything else, I do not see what would be your interest in my discussion with my good old friend The Pharmacists.

About my feedback to you, I think I ve citied references from your waste library of neg tags you have received in the past. They do sound quite legit to me. As my friend The Pharmacist would say, I strong BELIVE they re legit!

So you just keep playing your game my alt buddy, I already came clean with what I did. Let see whether you can afford to come clean as well. The clock is ticking, tic,tac,tic,tac!

Have a great day!



 

This thread is announced for only one reason. F@cking scammers want to legalize account trading on bitcointalk and avoid a red tag when doing so. All of bought/sold accounts are involved in promoting of a scam projects, account farming, trust farming, shilling, blackmailing, fishing, spreading maleware, cheating in bounty campaigns, scamming, spamming.. e.t.c.. So, if you ask me, the red tag is not enough, and it will be much more better, to ban all that accounts permanently. And I really do not care if Lauda "fucked his friends mom or girlfriend in the past". The important thing is, what he/she is doing right now, and to be honest, he/she is doing the right and very helpful thing for this forum, by exposing and red-tagging all that scammers.

Thanks coindetective for the false feedbacks, why don't you prove it?

Well, here it is again, you again bring in the world of your delusions into this great forum.

I see it took you 20 sec this time to reply to my thread, good, it means you do feel guilty over this, YOU SHOULD BE, assholes like you deserve to exposed. HA, HA, HA. I have such a good time talking to you I sincerely consider giving you a positive rating as the most wrecked guy on this forum! Let me know if that would hurt your feelings, hope not.

Let me get back to this topic. I don't give a shit about your neg feedback, we have already agreed to put that behind us, you think it s justified, I don't, case closed.  Please do not make me recommend you memory pills again since I feel you keep asking the same questions over and over again. I suggest you start taking something which contains lots of vitamin E and vitamin B-12, it should help you with this issue. Would not want you forget me next time when we talk. So, again, it is not about your feedback about me, it is about your asshole tactics where you enjoy hurting people who won't write you back and tell you what kind of piece of shit you are. That it is about, it is about JUSTICE, my friend. Also, I have to say it amuses me to discuss this with you when I know I am 100% right and you try to put this issue under the rug and divert the topic. Well, tough luck, you re not gonna be that lucky.

The fact you check the rank of people who you give negative rating too, as you just admitted it, means you do mostly target noobs and green users knowing they re much more inclined not to respond back and to bow to your authority. Busted!!!!

Next, the fact you do acknowledge you do compete with some people for campaigns also clearly depict the way you think. Cause some of these negs you gave could be considered your competition, I can post at least 20 examples from your records here. Did you try to harm your competition bad boy, ha? How come I do not compete with anyone, I would never even consider it, ha? Is this all BS you spread on this forum only your attempt to become the sole autority of this forum so you can pick any signature campaign you want? Damn, if this is the case, it s an excellent tactics, Dr. Moriarty style! Then after this, you call me a scammer? HE, HE, HE,. As I ve already said, it seems to me, you re nothing else but very, very angry over something. I hope you do resolve it as soon as possible. After all, friend always wish friends all the best. Even when they re assholes!

I see you again mention my big bro, you seem to be so impressed by him I d have to ask him to sign an autograph just for you. Again, I m glad you have role models you look after, that means you can become a great man once you grow up and get out of your basement. About that piece, you see, nobody asked you a permit for that to be written. I think it is an interesting topic but what do I know about that. We ll see how that goes and what that portal thinks about this.

Cheers bud. Don't break your keyboard! Have a beer or something. )))))))))

Edit: If you re about to back edit your posts, please do not do it if you already know I have quoted them in their original state. It only makes you even more guilty and nervous regarding this entire issue. Calling me insane? Well, that s not nice from your side but I m sure you ve just had a bad day so I won't hold it against you. Why don't you go and find some noob who just registered to teach him a lesson, vent out and give neg rating over something you BELIVE is not trustworthy!

Yes, that's exactly what you should do.  

Thought you didn't care about my feedback on you?  

Please, by all means analyze my posts for inconsistencies.  And as I've stated in another thread in the reputation section, the negs I  leave are not for personal advancement.  Most are on low-ranked members with whom I don't compete for signature campaigns anyway, nor have I ever blackmailed/extorted anyone in order to remove a neg that I've left.  Indeed, I've done that by request if the person has not been a scammer or nuisance over the course of some months.

Doesn't your journalist friend realize what a passive-aggressive butthurt little turd you are?  Is this "friend" your brother Crazyivan by any chance?  I think you live in a world of imaginary people, but sure--I'd be OK with someone looking into the trust system here.  I'm sure it'd be a cutting-edge piece of journalism, the trust system on an internet forum.  LOL.  Do your worst.

Edit:  Dude, you're insane.  In the membrane.  And I have already addressed that conflict of interest about competing for signature campaigns.  What would you have me do, not go after scammers, account sellers, and shitposters because they might be applying to the same campaigns?  Hell no, I won't do that.  But you are implying that that's the reason I do it, which is false.

I see my dear The Pharmacist friend has run away with his tail between his legs, which is something which perfectly fits into a profile of an keyboard warrior who picks on nobs and inexperienced users too afraid to fight him back.

He clearly stated most of his negative rating he gives around s based not on rules of this forum, not on verifiable information,  but on stuff he "believes" in. The problem is that stuff he believes in can easily be misused, which he often does, either for his private goals or FUDing something or even worse, just to make him feel better for hurting somebody else. Well, that tactics is about to end, I can be insanely persistent when I smell injustice.

Since I ve had this discussion with my dear friend, I ve started reading some of his post in an attempt to see whether maybe I was wrong in this entire discussion. I generally do not like getting into conflicts of this kind and I always come clear when I do something wrong. But this attitude of a person who tags other people accounts, in some cases over nothing else but to achieve some personal satisfaction after hurting other user, made me very interested into analysing this issue even further. Guess what, after reading his posts for 20 minutes, I ve found so many inconsistencies I cannot believe my eyes. I ve found situations where he gives negative rating to people over stuff which can have 10 different outcomes, most of them completely harmless but in his eyes, all these people re the worst scam on the face of the planet, according to comments from his trust ratings. In other words, he translates his personal anger into intentionally harming people here on this forum.  

So, in order to continue this discussion, I ve decided to do a few things.

1.  I will continue reading and I will present here on this forum the most interesting cases so we can all comment whether devotion of Mr. Pharmacist to fight Bitcointalk scammers s been based on anything else but his personal delusions and beliefs which are often completely factually unsupported.

2. In order to make this issue more visible, I ll link this thread to my personal signature with a proper introductory message. I d like for people outside of this thread to be aware of this and similar situations and this Reputation thread s been a bit hidden. I never knew it existed before I started talking to my dear friend, the Pharmacist. I should probably make a separate thread about this issue and link that one to my signature, not to hijack this thread anymore since I do not know anything about this issue with Lauda.

3. I spoke to an acquaintance of mine, we actually visit the same Slack channel. He is a part time writer for Cointelegraph portal. After explaining him the entire story, he s willing to discuss with his editor the possibility of writing a piece about this issue. According to what he told me, there were already discussions among his colleagues about information where certain forum users would intentionally trash other users accounts in order to prevent them from applying for signature campaigns (wasn't even aware this is such a big deal since I never used a campaign) and even situations where certain users would intentionally give negative ratings to other people accounts and then blackmailing them over these ratings in order to extort some money. As far as I could understand, this was not related to Bitcointtalk exclusively and I certainly do not claim this is something anyone here does but the issue does seem interesting to discuss.

If his superiors do give him a green light, we might get a nice story about these deceiving tactics (Yup, you re gonna be famous my friend!). I understand this is a private forum but it is also a public medium and I refuse to accept certain users can do whatever they want and try to harass other users just based on the stuff they believe or depending on whether they are in a bad mood any particular day. There should be some form or consumer protection implemented here and just saying if you do not like it, leave the forum, is not good enough for me. After all, most of us live in western democracies and we know how important is freedom of speech on one side but also consumer or user protection on the other side. Just to clarify, my intention is not to affect Bitcointalk reputation in any way or form. I have not been here a lot but I really like this forum and I think it has immensely contributed to exchange of information and growth of crypto. My whole focus is on users who act as assholes and go way over the rules and regulations of this forum.

That s all for now, fortunately we have holidays almost in front of us and I should have more free time on my hands to work on project.  

Cheers and have a good one!

Simple, lets give Lauda negative trust for being narrowed minded and Bitcoin shill, like why not? BTC scam, BCH scam because BCH ==== BTC, even ==== scam, so crypto scam. Digital gold? yeah, scam, bitcointalk scam, because we have Lauda-like that protects scam from another scam. Everything for lulz!

He, He, He, do I detect a bit of anger in your words, my friend? I guess you got schooled with that last post of mine about you and started asking for help from your friends. Now you know how does it feel when people post shit and insults about you, ha? The only difference is I WAS NOT AWARE what I did was wrong since the rules state differently and there are no rules for what is trustworthy here while you DO KNOW what you do and you enjoy in it. I m glad you show you are a human after all.

Now let us get back to the focus of our discussion. Do you have some trouble with your memory? How many times do I have to say, yes, I tried to help a friend sell an account, when I was told not to do it, I closed down that thread. If you need some pills to remember the fact I acknowledge that, I m sure you can Google something up. Finally, we agree about something, yes, it should be against the rules to trade accounts but it is not so who are you to create new rules about what makes people untrustworthy?

You say you BELIVE this and you BELIVE that. Well, that s the whole point, you re so angry about something in your life, you refuse to consider any other possibility but the one you BELIVE. Well, you are WRONG, that s what I m trying to put into that thick skull of yours but I think I d have more success convincing a piece of wood into something. Whether you believe that or not, that s really not my problem, I am not going to try to convince you otherwise anymore, we have come to a conclusion our opinions about that issue differ big time.

What I am going to do is spend much more time here on this forum due to 2 reasons. First, discussing this stuff with you started really amusing me. I was never into forums, I did trade crypto a lot but now I start enjoying these discussions of ours. Second, I would like to prevent you to continue harassing people in the future, people who are too polite or to afraid to show their teeth and put you in your spot. The fact is you intentionally like bothering people even though you know account selling is allowed, yet you enjoy spreading your own rules cause that makes you feel internet powerful. Well, this time you ve met your match, my friend. There s no way I let this one slide. EVER.

I see you are also extremely impressed by my big bro since you keep mentioning him. I am glad you do that, you should learn from his posts, knowledge is really important in life. Yes, we he did leave trust feedback to me. As I already said, it s obvious u re a very lonely person and cannot understand being bonded to someone but that s OK. Do you maybe suggest I do not trust my brother and vice versa? Is that maybe against your rules as well? You know what, I suggest you go and give us negative rating for that as well if that s going to make you happy. I really care about you and I d like you to be a bit less angry.

Sorry but I didn't get this last one remark of yours, what should we care whose trust list you re going to be put on? You really have no life besides this forum when you keep talking about these lists all the time? Maybe Santa puts you on his list as well, after all you have not been that bad this year. )

Anyway, stay safe and have a great day. One thing is sure, your days of bothering people over stuff which is not forbidden while not getting the same treatment back are over! I can get 150 gazillion negative trust rating from you, I do not mind that at all, as long that makes you happy.

The fact is that you tried selling an account here, which makes you untrustworthy in my eyes.  No it's not against the rules--though it should be IMO--and the Crazyivan account comes along with a story about you being brothers and how he set you straight.   I don't believe that.  I believe you messed up and forgot to log off.

And really, leaving trust feedback for each other?   

Then I get another great wall of text PM from crazyivan askingme to remove the feedback, even though it's not a big deal since I'm not on DT--even though he linked the reputation thread where hilariousandco was discussing putting me in his trust list.  You and your "brother" reek of dishonesty.

Don't do anything untrustworthy, such as try to sell an identity to someone else.

I want you to find me the rule that says 'Do not scam'.
When you're done, I want you to then tell me this: Do you think that we should give Negative trust to scammers?

What do you mean 'what gives him the right'? His right is that he is a forum member, and can leave positive and negative trust to anyone for whatever reasons he chooses.
Would you prefer that people were silenced and stopped from leaving trust, just because someone doesn't like them? (I'm guessing that is a yes, so you can continue with your shitty, shady account trading).

Has anyone said that you have broken a rule? Negative trust doesn't indicate that you have broken a rule, it indicates that you have done something untrustworthy. Try to get it through your thick noggin that the rules and the trust system are completely different and unrelated.

You have not answered my question. How am I, as a user, sure I will not be flagged again by Pharmacist or anyone else if not by reading the rules? Do I need to be a mind reader to know that? How can I do that?

I repeat, I have followed the rules of this forum to the last letter and he gave me negative rating. I understand his trust has no impact on most people perception of me but that s not the point here. I have not raised this issue since I want that trust rating removed because of anything else but the fact he posted shit about me in that trust rating. I do not like being caller a liar and a scammer for no reason.

The fact remains here he gave me negative trust rating over something which was and still is allowed, account selling. I think it should not be allowed and I would not be part of that if this were the case. But IT IS NOT THE CASE. So what gives you right to flag people accounts over something which is not an unclear grey area but clearly allowed. How can you break a rule which is NOT A RULE at the moment you break it??? I am sure you understand my point.

Technically, by the rules, scamming is also allowed.

In general, account selling is discouraged for the reasons that The Pharmacist illustrated in his feedback. Trust is given at a user's discretion, and anyone can provide trust for any reason at all. The key bit to take away from this is the fact that his trust is (currently) untrusted and has no impact on most people's perceptions of you, since most have only DefaultTrust in their trust list. I would recommend reading about how trust works in the Meta section to further clarify this.

Cheers.

No, I did not know trust is not dependant on rules. I did read FAQ and I try to stick to them. Is there any other set of rules a user need to respect? To formulate my question better, WHAT is trust EXACTLY dependant on here on this forum?

How can a user make sure they respect the rules and do not get negative trust rating? I read here people getting flagged for having different opinion about something compared to people who have got higher trust level and can flag people.

How can I know what is allowed and what is not allowed if it is not in the rule book. I do not spend much time here on the forum and cannot afford to get informed about everything. This is why I read the rules. If that s not enough and still people like this fake internet hero can flag people, then I really do not see a point of having rules at all. Let s ask Pharmacist if I can post about Bitcoin price.Maybe he does not like the fact I am going to say the price will drop next week and flag me. I am sure you understand where this goes.

You say account selling is potential grey area. How can that be a potential grey area when it is clearly allowed by the rules. VERY CLEARLY. How can anyone abuse something which is allowed to do? To tell you the truth, I would have nothing against the fact selling accounts gets completely prohibited but as long it is allowed, how can users know what is allowed unless it is clearly written.  

Yes, I did try to help a friend sell that account, I was honest about that. That was stupid and irresponsible from my side and I had no direct financial benefit from that. I was not aware that was illegal when I did it and rules confirmed that. if it was clearly stated to be illegal, I would never try to help him. Still, after all that I was labelled as an account flipper, scammer and spam promoter. What? Where? How?

There was no real damage due to his post, that s not the point. The point is he s being extremely dishonest and vengeful over something which was not illegal neither prohibited. I get pissed when I see internet warriors trying to bully other people just cause they thing they can.

Well, this dog s got teeth, I never allowed to be harassed in any way by anyone and I certainly won't allow some basement warrior to do so.

Thank you for attention and I apologise if my argumentation seems a bit too much to some of you.

That's a bit mean. And unfounded.

(as you proceed to write a wall of text)

When you yourself admit that it was a mistake, what more is there to justify the action?

Aw, heck. Did you know that trust is not dependent on rules?

Therefore, whenever there is a legal gray area, you will abuse it and lash out at anyone that questions you?

That seems unwarranted.

Right. Attempted account dealer would be more appropriate.

Screen names never meant anything. Are you a detective?

Good luck. It'll be hard.

Wait why?

Hallucinations?

It looks like this negative trust really got to you, even though it didn't do anything.

Interesting thing would be what's Theymos's take on account selling, Does he considers that it leads to 'scams, spam and encourages account farming?' Many users have cried over this, but theymos's take on this will be an interesting one. I myself totally believe that account selling should be banned. It has caused a lot of damage to the community and hasn't brought forward any fruitful results, which i can't even think of.

Also a question, is there a list/record of scams done by sold accounts?

Yap, I m his brother, that s true, what is so hard to understand there? You must have no siblings at all, you do seem as a very, very lonely person. You know what, get a pet, maybe a snake or a cockroach, I highly doubt anything else would survive in your toxic environment.

I don't give rats ass the fact you do not trust me. All I did was helping a bud of mine long time ago sell an account. That was ONE MISTAKE I did here and I was wrong to do it. So, if anyone else wants to give me a negative rating, go ahead. I admit, I never even tried to hide this, a long time ago I tried to help a friend sell an account, the sale never took place since I was told by someone close to me not to do it and the sale thread was closed short time after it was open.

I was not even aware this was not allowed on this forum at that time and today, after reading this thread, I can see I was right. You gave me a negative rating over something WHICH IS NOT ILLEGAL ON THIS FORUM, take a look at FAQ 18 I ve posted, a FAQ set up by someone who established this forum clearly says SELLING ACCOUNTS IS ALLOWED. So again, what did you give me negative trust rating for? Just to satisfy your morbid desire to call someone a liar, right? I ASK AGAIN, WHAT RULE DID I BREAK HERE ON THIS FORUM?

Are you going to say you re the one who makes the rules on this forum? Please do not insult my intelligence, even though I do not use this forum a lot, this forum seems to be a serious place.

I do now understand potential negative implications selling an account might have, there you ve got a point but this should be clearly FORBIDDEN and then assholes like you could go around and cure their childhood frustrations by hunting down people who sell their accounts. Until there is such clear ban, I ask you again, what rule of this forum did I break? Please say your own rules, your way or highway, please, please say something like that.

Saying I am an account dealer makes me understand how seriously disturbed person you are, you must be living an illusion of being a big time  internet warrior who protects the world from vicious tribes of online barbarians. I can only say, get a life dude and stop being so bitter, not everyone is a scammer.

To conclude and to take off my white glows, since you took them long time ago, fuck you for calling me a liar and an account dealer, you re incorrect dear sir.

If you are really a pharmacists, which I seriously doubt, nobody can do that serious work and sit online 24/7, I m preparing for a med school. If I ever get that MD plate on my chest, I m sure your frustrations re going to quadruple. I m gonna  make sure to let you know about this happy event and send a photo so you can celebrate with me. I know I am not allowed to do it yet but let me give you diagnosis regarding your behaviour, a clear case of manic depression which often involves hallucinations, psychosis and most importantly delusions. So far your delusions have produced a lot of stuff about me and now you say my account is controlled by QS (whatever that is) to fight a war against somebody else?? What s going to be next? Let me guess, you just saw Elvis who came into your pharmacy to buy a lollipop!

Unfortunately, psychiatric hospitalisation is the only way out for you. Now you go and post another negative rating on my account for explaining you how things work in life. HA HA

Have a good one!

After reading this thread, I feel like in a mental asylum.. DT member who is tagging scammers for account trading, was doing the same in the past ? This is hilarious   Or did I get something wrong ?

Coindetective is Crazyivan's "brother" (see feedback left on his profile), who coincidentally contacted me today about wanting me to temove that feedback.   Ain't gonna happen, bud.  You are the same person and are a fucking liar and account dealer.  Here you pretend not to know how it works on bct with feedback, like a big drama queen.  It's always the account sellers who end up being the worst members of this forum.  But I wouldn't be surprised if QS got control of the coindetective account and is using it as an alt in his ponderous crusade against Lauda.

Lol, your account looks very much bought.

No, this cannot be possible. Please tell me there is some misunderstanding here.  I have not used this forum a lot but I cannot believe my eyes what I see. We have  a number 1 forum in Bitcoin world where people who are able to post negative trust do not follow the rules of the forum and make up their own rules? Fuck me, this is material for crypto news, cannot believe my eyes.

I have to say I am a bit dissapointed mods can choose to do whatever they want even though FAQ clearly spells out what can be sanctioned. I somehow hoped this forum to be top shelf. What is the point of FAQ and forum rules then?