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So does that mean there's still time to get in on some Stark action? Grin

Yes. You can start now. Also I saw airdrop will be fully unlocked(100%). Also airdrop is around 9% from the tokenomics.

Total Supply = 10B STRK
Assume Airdrop allocation = 10B* 9% = 900M

We will compare this with different number of users.

Ultra Worst case = 900M/3M = 300 STRK
Worst case = 900M/1M = 900 STRK
Middle case = 900M/800K = 1125 STRK
Good case = 900M/500K = 1800 STRK
Best case = 900M/250K = 3600 STRK
Excellent case = 900M/ 100K = 9000 STRK

This is rough estimate. When you compare with other mainnet airdrops, normally they are not giving to all the users. They are targeting 250K-500K users.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 05, 2023, 08:28:18 AM

Quote from: @sriyan on October 03, 2023, 04:27:17 AM

STRK new global unlock date : 15th April 2024(Q2 2024)[/b]

So does that mean there's still time to get in on some Stark action? Grin

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No one will be able to answer your question exactly, so you have to make a decision on your own. Also, no one knows when the snapshot will be executed. Or maybe he's already done? But if you haven't done any activities in Starknet yet, I think you need to spend a couple of tens of dollars now so that you don't experience Fomo later.

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Quote from: @sriyan on October 03, 2023, 04:27:17 AM

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What are the layer 2 projects for the targeting mainnet airdrops? I found a few of them with speculated time frames. Do you know about any other layer 2 projects?

Eg :
1. Layerzero(End of September)
2. Starknet (End of November)
3. Zksync(Q1 2024)

4. Optimism Round 3 (Q4 2023)
5. Base(2024)
6. Linea(2024)
7. Arbitrum Round 2

Unfortunately project team change the initial token unlock date from 29th Nov to another date. But there are few positives as well. First one is next bitcoin halving is near that.

Starknet :

STRK new global unlock date : 15th April 2024(Q2 2024)

So does that mean there's still time to get in on some Stark action? Grin

I think with all the bad stuff and the shenanigans that's going on all over the world, these L2 projects could be planning on moving the dates of their airdrops next year when things get a bit more bullish and the outlook more optimistic. So yeah... The airdrops I wanna get into rn are Layer Zero, zkSync even though I think it's gonna flop, Arbitrum even though I don't think there's really gonna be an airdrop and I'm just getting started with Base. I think Base is going to have one good airdrop even if they deny they're having one. :/

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Quote from: @sriyan on October 03, 2023, 04:27:17 AM

Unfortunately project team change the initial token unlock date from 29th Nov to another date. But there are few positives as well. First one is next bitcoin halving is near that.

This is where the positive aspects end. And as a result, we have several potential airdrops, but only the distribution date is still too far from us. It is very difficult to assume how many more new wallets will be registered on Starknet with the hope of getting airdrop.

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Quote from: @sriyan on August 31, 2023, 04:39:05 AM

What are the layer 2 projects for the targeting mainnet airdrops? I found a few of them with speculated time frames. Do you know about any other layer 2 projects?

Eg :
1. Layerzero(End of September)
2. Starknet (End of November)
3. Zksync(Q1 2024)

4. Optimism Round 3 (Q4 2023)
5. Base(2024)
6. Linea(2024)
7. Arbitrum Round 2

Unfortunately project team change the initial token unlock date from 29th Nov to another date. But there are few positives as well. First one is next bitcoin halving is near that.

Starknet :

STRK new global unlock date : 15th April 2024(Q2 2024)

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Quote from: tvplus006 on October 01, 2023, 09:05:37 AM

From what you've listed, only Venom is currently doing testing in testnet. Starknet, zkSynk and Base are already working on the main network and if you dream of getting airdrop from them, you need to spend real money.

yep, I understand this game costs more than just time. Some ecosystems have been quite active in the market and like OP, ARB,... I believe that the activity criteria will also have many levels to eliminate low performers in the ecosystem.
Willingness to spend in completely new ecosystems I also think is also an opportunity to look for infrastructure-shaping projects, and is also an effective way to experience spam transactions.

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Quote from: killerfrost on October 01, 2023, 02:27:02 AM

The situation I observe is that there is still a lot of excitement about testnet activities, some names that I still see are getting a lot of attention: zksync, venom, starknet, base,...
Perhaps the expectation is that a fee ecosystem will have an advantage over projects that only operate in the current testnet state...

From what you've listed, only Venom is currently doing testing in testnet. Starknet, zkSynk and Base are already working on the main network and if you dream of getting airdrop from them, you need to spend real money.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on September 30, 2023, 05:58:52 PM

Quote from: killerfrost on September 30, 2023, 02:57:33 AM

I'm sure these are all projects that will airdrop to their users, which means those who intend to seek the opportunity to receive rewards have to compete with more people. I have also heard about some movements of people turning to testnet, retroactive,... projects to seek opportunities during the gloomy period of the market. I think if you fully meet the basic operating criteria, you will have a chance to receive an airdrop. There is no need to exaggerate too much. Many people rush to look for opportunities but do not understand the rules and waste time.

Most of these people spread themselves too thin across an array of L2 projects rather than focus on a few projects with the potential to do really well in the long run. Also, I wanted to point out that not all projects will do an airdrop. Several projects have defaulted so it's actually a gray area. Right now, the interests for incentivized Testnets are at an all time low because recent projects that followed that path defaulted (See SUI, SEI, etc).

The situation I observe is that there is still a lot of excitement about testnet activities, some names that I still see are getting a lot of attention: zksync, venom, starknet, base,...
Perhaps the expectation is that a fee ecosystem will have an advantage over projects that only operate in the current testnet state. But projects like SEI, SUI, ... do not bring fairness to their communities, which is the reason why they later have to solve previous problems of not being generous.

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Quote from: libert19 on September 24, 2023, 08:32:33 AM

...I used starknet for good while, bridged funds there, however there were updates that I was unaware of (it was my fault tho because I wasn't in starknet/argentx/braavos channel to know what's up), there was particular migration update, I didn't know about it, now my addresses are changed, with my actual old addresses with funds unable to open.

Try to create a new wallet and import the seed phrase from your wallet there. I do not know for sure whether my advice will help or not, but I think that this method should be tried as a last opportunity to regain control of your finances.

It doesn't work that way. Starknet had chain upgrade where you had to give consent to upgrade through wallets (braavos/argentx) so you keep custody of addresses and funds therein, if you didn't give consent your addresses would have been changed, which is what happened to me.

I am aware of this and I have upgraded my wallets in a timely manner. But did you try to do as I suggested, or are you so confident that you decided not to even try to use the last chance? It will take a few minutes to create a new wallet and import a seed phrase into it, do not ignore this possibility.

I have tried it already, shortly after my funds disappeared.

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Quote from: killerfrost on September 30, 2023, 02:57:33 AM

I'm sure these are all projects that will airdrop to their users, which means those who intend to seek the opportunity to receive rewards have to compete with more people. I have also heard about some movements of people turning to testnet, retroactive,... projects to seek opportunities during the gloomy period of the market. I think if you fully meet the basic operating criteria, you will have a chance to receive an airdrop. There is no need to exaggerate too much. Many people rush to look for opportunities but do not understand the rules and waste time.

Most of these people spread themselves too thin across an array of L2 projects rather than focus on a few projects with the potential to do really well in the long run. Also, I wanted to point out that not all projects will do an airdrop. Several projects have defaulted so it's actually a gray area. Right now, the interests for incentivized Testnets are at an all time low because recent projects that followed that path defaulted (See SUI, SEI, etc).

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Quote from: libert19 on September 29, 2023, 10:02:02 PM

Quote from: tvplus006 on September 29, 2023, 06:07:19 PM

Quote from: libert19 on September 24, 2023, 08:32:33 AM

...I used starknet for good while, bridged funds there, however there were updates that I was unaware of (it was my fault tho because I wasn't in starknet/argentx/braavos channel to know what's up), there was particular migration update, I didn't know about it, now my addresses are changed, with my actual old addresses with funds unable to open.

Try to create a new wallet and import the seed phrase from your wallet there. I do not know for sure whether my advice will help or not, but I think that this method should be tried as a last opportunity to regain control of your finances.

It doesn't work that way. Starknet had chain upgrade where you had to give consent to upgrade through wallets (braavos/argentx) so you keep custody of addresses and funds therein, if you didn't give consent your addresses would have been changed, which is what happened to me.

I am aware of this and I have upgraded my wallets in a timely manner. But did you try to do as I suggested, or are you so confident that you decided not to even try to use the last chance? It will take a few minutes to create a new wallet and import a seed phrase into it, do not ignore this possibility.

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I'm sure these are all projects that will airdrop to their users, which means those who intend to seek the opportunity to receive rewards have to compete with more people. I have also heard about some movements of people turning to testnet, retroactive,... projects to seek opportunities during the gloomy period of the market. I think if you fully meet the basic operating criteria, you will have a chance to receive an airdrop. There is no need to exaggerate too much. Many people rush to look for opportunities but do not understand the rules and waste time.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on September 29, 2023, 06:07:19 PM

Quote from: libert19 on September 24, 2023, 08:32:33 AM

...I used starknet for good while, bridged funds there, however there were updates that I was unaware of (it was my fault tho because I wasn't in starknet/argentx/braavos channel to know what's up), there was particular migration update, I didn't know about it, now my addresses are changed, with my actual old addresses with funds unable to open.

Try to create a new wallet and import the seed phrase from your wallet there. I do not know for sure whether my advice will help or not, but I think that this method should be tried as a last opportunity to regain control of your finances.

It doesn't work that way. Starknet had chain upgrade where you had to give consent to upgrade through wallets (braavos/argentx) so you keep custody of addresses and funds therein, if you didn't give consent your addresses would have been changed, which is what happened to me.

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Quote from: libert19 on September 24, 2023, 08:32:33 AM

...I used starknet for good while, bridged funds there, however there were updates that I was unaware of (it was my fault tho because I wasn't in starknet/argentx/braavos channel to know what's up), there was particular migration update, I didn't know about it, now my addresses are changed, with my actual old addresses with funds unable to open.

Try to create a new wallet and import the seed phrase from your wallet there. I do not know for sure whether my advice will help or not, but I think that this method should be tried as a last opportunity to regain control of your finances.

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The token already issued by the team but the tokenomic from the STRK token is still remain unclear at this moment.

You can check it via the chain broker website. There will be 9% for the airdrop. I am doing the starknet airdrop farming as well Grin

Source: https://chainbroker.io/projects/starknet/

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I remember that if some said that if the snapshot already since last year but im not sure whether this true or not.

I think you are talking about the 2022-June snapshot right? That is an example given by the Starknet team. So No snapshot taken yet. There will be another update about gas fee reduction is coming soon. Also, first token unlocked date is 2023/11/29(But this can be for the team)

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 07, 2023, 12:21:37 AM

Starknet

Currently, STRK built on the Ethereum network
Proof: https://etherscan.io/token/0xca14007eff0db1f8135f4c25b34de49ab0d42766

The token already issued by the team but the tokenomic from the STRK token is still remain unclear at this moment. Even visiting starknet's discord was not even giving me answer about how much tokens will be allocated to the airdrop participants(retro users).
I remember that if some said that if the snapshot already since last year but im not sure whether this true or not. Im still actively using starknet at this moment but there have been many ambiguetten.

The only guaranteed thing if the token already issued and the chance for airdrop to happen is still there. Starknet is not that popular among the crypto users caused by how complicated that blockchain was.
Im waiting for the team to release the fixed tokenomic for STRK. I hope that they can roll it out soon.

If there is going to be retro airdrop for starknet users, I am going to be really pissed, because I'd be likely eligible for it yet wouldn't be able to claim.

I used starknet for good while, bridged funds there, however there were updates that I was unaware of (it was my fault tho because I wasn't in starknet/argentx/braavos channel to know what's up), there was particular migration update, I didn't know about it, now my addresses are changed, with my actual old addresses with funds unable to open.

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 07, 2023, 12:21:37 AM

Starknet

Currently, STRK built on the Ethereum network
Proof: https://etherscan.io/token/0xca14007eff0db1f8135f4c25b34de49ab0d42766

The token already issued by the team but the tokenomic from the STRK token is still remain unclear at this moment. Even visiting starknet's discord was not even giving me answer about how much tokens will be allocated to the airdrop participants(retro users).
I remember that if some said that if the snapshot already since last year but im not sure whether this true or not. Im still actively using starknet at this moment but there have been many ambiguetten.

The only guaranteed thing if the token already issued and the chance for airdrop to happen is still there. Starknet is not that popular among the crypto users caused by how complicated that blockchain was.
Im waiting for the team to release the fixed tokenomic for STRK. I hope that they can roll it out soon.

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Quote from: fmz89 on September 04, 2023, 08:35:19 AM

getting less favor if eth reach 100k tps later in roadmap, and yes it will hapen this bullrun, after that better not holding layer2 coin
which is less usable and newer layer 1 already quite fast and cheap tx fee. so there is no point for layer to to utilze some cons layer1

thats a big if right there considering the proposed L2 was also considered solution back then but turns out it was also not really do much towards the gas fee of ethereum in general.
but im also faithful believer that ethereum will eventually will solve its problem, basically the thing that you mentioned is their supposed sharding mechanism where they gonna reduce load off ethereum in processing transactions but its definitely gonna be difficult to implement and requires a lot of time, moreover the testing phase would be massive time consuming.
at this point i'd prefer with L2 but yeah, if ethereum could somehow solve this problem L2 will be irrelevant.

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Quote from: @sriyan on August 31, 2023, 04:39:05 AM

What are the layer 2 projects for the targeting mainnet airdrops? I found a few of them with speculated time frames. Do you know about any other layer 2 projects?

Eg :
1. Layerzero(End of September)
2. Starknet (End of November)
3. Zksync(Q1 2024)

4. Optimism Round 3 (Q4 2023)
5. Base(2024)
6. Linea(2024)
7. Arbitrum Round 2

I received optimism round 3 today(End of Q3). I assumed it would happen in October. This time they followed the same scenarios of round 2.

Optimism Round 3 Calculation

Let's assume you are delegated 50 OP and vote on more than 02 proposals

Number of points = 50 OP * 180 = 9000 points
Op allocation = (0.67*9000*3)/365 = 50 op(Airdrop)

There will be a Round 4 as well. (This should be distributed before May 2024)

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 08, 2023, 01:42:34 PM

These are really not the ones I would look for, Matic was a layer 2 if I am not wrong and if you want to talk about layer 2, that is the best one out there. People are overreacting on this layerzero thing and just look at the rankings and you will see why it is not good at all.

Appears you just read the title and not the body. Op is talking about L2 project's that may do an airdrop. Layerzero has confirmed token $ZRO looking at their github, it's not surprising that people are speculating on it.

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