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Your math calculation is nice to see but unfortunately you didn't take some things into consideration for your calculations. For instance, There would most likely be varying amount per participant – all participants won't receive same amounts. That, and the fact that layerzero has about 500K+ active Mainnet users the last time I checked. If you factor all of this in, you'll see that the allocation will differ per user.

This is only to get the rough idea about the ZRO per user. Yes. this will be change by user to user. Also they may be check the wallet history like the celestia airdrop. Then they can remove the airdrop farmers and the bots.

Eg :

1. number of Ethereum transactions.
2. Wallet age.
3. First transaction date.
4. ETH staking
5. Voting

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 25, 2023, 08:54:02 AM

He said this to farm the protocol. We can compare allocation with the number of users like this.

ZRO total supply = 1 Billion

Assume they will airdrop the 10% from the total supply, Then airdrop allocation = 1B *10% = 100M

I assume this will be allocation(Roughly) per user.

Ultra worst case = 100M/3M = 33 ZRO
Worst case = 100M /1M = 100 ZRO
Middle case = 100M/ 800K = 125 ZRO
good case = 100M/ 500K = 200 ZRO
Best case = 100M/ 250K = 400 ZRO
Ultra Best case = 100M / 100K = 1000 ZRO

Normally all the mainnet airdrops target the number of users between 300K-500K. In that case, ZRO allocation will be around 200-400 ZRO per user. Also, the $ZRO private sale price is 3$(already ended). That means the listing price can go to 5-10$.

Your math calculation is nice to see but unfortunately you didn't take some things into consideration for your calculations. For instance, There would most likely be varying amount per participant – all participants won't receive same amounts. That, and the fact that layerzero has about 500K+ active Mainnet users the last time I checked. If you factor all of this in, you'll see that the allocation will differ per user.

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 25, 2023, 02:33:34 AM

For that, they need to remove the Sybil and bot wallets. Otherwise, it will be a shit drop. but the problem is that Layerzero's CEO said they do not care about Sybil wallets. I don't know he said it to farm the layer zero airdrop. because nowadays protocols give some fake hints farm the airdrops..

Six months ago, the CEO of LayerZero Labs Bryan Pellegrino announced the size of the average transaction on the network, so as not to be considered a sybil. And it should be $2000 - https://twitter.com/PrimordialAA/status/1643648195128606721 I hope that he has revised his views by this issue over the past time, otherwise few people will receive an airdrop from L0.

He said this to farm the protocol. We can compare allocation with the number of users like this.

ZRO total supply = 1 Billion

Assume they will airdrop the 10% from the total supply, Then airdrop allocation = 1B *10% = 100M

I assume this will be allocation(Roughly) per user.

Ultra worst case = 100M/3M = 33 ZRO
Worst case = 100M /1M = 100 ZRO
Middle case = 100M/ 800K = 125 ZRO
good case = 100M/ 500K = 200 ZRO
Best case = 100M/ 250K = 400 ZRO
Ultra Best case = 100M / 100K = 1000 ZRO

Normally all the mainnet airdrops target the number of users between 300K-500K. In that case, ZRO allocation will be around 200-400 ZRO per user. Also, the $ZRO private sale price is 3$(already ended). That means the listing price can go to 5-10$.

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 25, 2023, 02:33:34 AM

For that, they need to remove the Sybil and bot wallets. Otherwise, it will be a shit drop. but the problem is that Layerzero's CEO said they do not care about Sybil wallets. I don't know he said it to farm the layer zero airdrop. because nowadays protocols give some fake hints farm the airdrops..

Six months ago, the CEO of LayerZero Labs Bryan Pellegrino announced the size of the average transaction on the network, so as not to be considered a sybil. And it should be $2000 - https://twitter.com/PrimordialAA/status/1643648195128606721 I hope that he has revised his views by this issue over the past time, otherwise few people will receive an airdrop from L0.

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Quote from: libert19 on September 24, 2023, 08:59:30 AM

If they gonna do an airdrop, L0 gonna have hard time filtering out sybils. They should try something new and reward each address that interacted with it, even minimally. Every project tries to resist sybils, for once they should try aforementioned and see how it goes. In filtering out sybils, lot of genuine users gets filtered, and good sybils gets airdrop anyway...

I am sure that the team will not distribute airdrop to all registered addresses, since their number has already exceeded 3 million. And it is unknown how many more new wallets will be registered, which will also be able to claim airdrop from L0. I think that airdrop will be distributed to about 500 thousand wallets that had the largest number of interactions with LayerZero.

For that, they need to remove the Sybil and bot wallets. Otherwise, it will be a shit drop. but the problem is that Layerzero's CEO said they do not care about Sybil wallets. I don't know he said it to farm the layer zero airdrop. because nowadays protocols give some fake hints farm the airdrops.

Eg.: Lens protocol airdrop(airdrop text mentioned in their Twitter image.). but later they said that "there will be no airdrop or token"

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Quote from: libert19 on September 24, 2023, 08:59:30 AM

If they gonna do an airdrop, L0 gonna have hard time filtering out sybils. They should try something new and reward each address that interacted with it, even minimally. Every project tries to resist sybils, for once they should try aforementioned and see how it goes. In filtering out sybils, lot of genuine users gets filtered, and good sybils gets airdrop anyway...

I am sure that the team will not distribute airdrop to all registered addresses, since their number has already exceeded 3 million. And it is unknown how many more new wallets will be registered, which will also be able to claim airdrop from L0. I think that airdrop will be distributed to about 500 thousand wallets that had the largest number of interactions with LayerZero.

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If they gonna do an airdrop, L0 gonna have hard time filtering out sybils. They should try something new and reward each address that interacted with it, even minimally. Every project tries to resist sybils, for once they should try aforementioned and see how it goes. In filtering out sybils, lot of genuine users gets filtered, and good sybils gets airdrop anyway.

In my experience, projects that reward generously are hit in market while miserly ones bit the dust.

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Quote from: tokeweed on September 23, 2023, 07:53:51 AM

I've been hearing more people saying that the Layer Zero brass has most likely decided not to go thru with the airdrop or at least not to do it anytime soon. ..

I think that the team is deliberately pushing back the release of a new token, since this allows it to regularly receive $2 million monthly due to commissions. In addition, there are still a lot of blockchains that are not yet integrated into L0 and it takes more time to integrate them.

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I've been hearing more people saying that the Layer Zero brass has most likely decided not to go thru with the airdrop or at least not to do it anytime soon. :/ It's both good and bad. It's good cos it gives us more time to up our scores and eligibility. The bad is I think I've done enough to be eligible but would have to wait a little longer to get some free money... Lolol. Cheesy

But it's fine... The new Arbitrum Odyssey is gonna start in three or so days anyway. It doesn't really promise of any airdrop but you never know.

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 19, 2023, 01:30:52 AM

But there are no layer zero airdrops btw Grin

. So don't waste your money on layer zero. Also, they will farm forever. First, they need to focus on the FTX case against them. It was a 45M deal.

To be honest, you might be sound real. But if you think about it, layerzero would launch a token sincr they have a Vc and the longest speculation they got for an airdrop seems to be favor them since a lot inject liquidity and do some major transactions.. They arent gonna rubbish enough to be an asshole not to give a gartitude for that unless they are using everyone to boost only their protocol. A good developer would fee the needed to do so especially if you knew that your project would be supportef by dozen of community.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on September 18, 2023, 04:58:07 AM

Quote from: @sriyan on September 18, 2023, 01:11:56 AM

There are no layer zero airdrops. One of the developers of the Layer Zero team(With proof) confirmed it. Most of the airdrop hunters used the Arbitrum Airdrop money to farm the layzero airdrop. End of the day you are being farmed by the protocol. You will get nothing.

Cite the source dude. Its not like theres a real confirmation from the devs themselves. List it with the comment so we could check if you are right. You might probably right when you say some devs taking advantage of the protocol from users but they havent said about it so its seems that users were just doing it on their own scheme. Since they didnt promise any, its not their obligations so this is quite risky actually. Not having airdrop is a bit critical if they announced it now sicne mostly will pullback and remoge their fair shares.

I spent a lot of time doing Layerzero and Lamina1 bounty tasks, and for nothing. It's easier to get rewards from Q Blockchain's saving and borrowing program or QUAI by retweeting their content. Those projects actually pay out their rewards.

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 18, 2023, 01:11:56 AM

There are no layer zero airdrops. One of the developers of the Layer Zero team(With proof) confirmed it. Most of the airdrop hunters used the Arbitrum Airdrop money to farm the layzero airdrop. End of the day you are being farmed by the protocol. You will get nothing.

The video which attributed to the Layerzero Devolpers is not real and has been edit. If It is true then also i think this is just joke because you can clearly see the smile on the face of the devolpers in the video. Whenever any big projects denied that they will give airdrop then chances of airdrop become high. Maybe this message is just to control the users who using multiple accounts for airdrop hunting to stop them and only real users will remain. Many times we have seen that project denied for airdrop and at the end they gives big airdrop so we could also expect same from Layerzero.

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$10k how? I checked many users just received 10-100 tokens and also eligibility criteria was to delegate votes and minimum OP is I think 100 OP.

I am using this method called the island method. What you can do the airdrop farming from multiple devices(one internet connection per one device). If you are using one internet connection to all the devices, then your public IP address is the same. So you will be flagged by the project team.

Also, you have to maintain a separate exchange account to avoid the Sybil behaviours(If you use used same exchange account for all the devices, then your withdrawal address will be the same).

Another point is to try to use the refuel feature to get the gas fees. Always avoid the wallet to wallet transfers.

It's funny, they ask you how much you delegated to the OP to get 10 thousand dollars in the third round of airdrop from Optimism, but you give advice on how to interact with the protocols so that you are not considered Sybil. So how much did you delegate to OP to get this size of airdrop?

I delegated a total of around 10,000 OP(Received from Optimism round 1 and round 2) to other voters.

Eg:
Wallet A = 2000 OP
Wallet B = 2000 OP
Wallet c = 2000 OP
Wallet D = 2000 OP
Wallet E = 2000 OP

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 20, 2023, 03:43:48 AM

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$10k how? I checked many users just received 10-100 tokens and also eligibility criteria was to delegate votes and minimum OP is I think 100 OP.

I am using this method called the island method. What you can do the airdrop farming from multiple devices(one internet connection per one device). If you are using one internet connection to all the devices, then your public IP address is the same. So you will be flagged by the project team.

Also, you have to maintain a separate exchange account to avoid the Sybil behaviours(If you use used same exchange account for all the devices, then your withdrawal address will be the same).

Another point is to try to use the refuel feature to get the gas fees. Always avoid the wallet to wallet transfers.

It's funny, they ask you how much you delegated to the OP to get 10 thousand dollars in the third round of airdrop from Optimism, but you give advice on how to interact with the protocols so that you are not considered Sybil. So how much did you delegate to OP to get this size of airdrop?

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$10k how? I checked many users just received 10-100 tokens and also eligibility criteria was to delegate votes and minimum OP is I think 100 OP.

I am using this method called the island method. What you can do the airdrop farming from multiple devices(one internet connection per one device). If you are using one internet connection to all the devices, then your public IP address is the same. So you will be flagged by the project team.

Also, you have to maintain a separate exchange account to avoid the Sybil behaviours(If you use used same exchange account for all the devices, then your withdrawal address will be the same).

Another point is to try to use the refuel feature to get the gas fees. Always avoid the wallet to wallet transfers.

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$1k definitely enough even some of the airdrops out there only require specific qualifications that don't necessarily requires you to spend and create that much volume.
most of them are just adding criteria of having interacted with their smart contract codes and thats it.
i guess layerzero gonna be the same, you just required to interact with their blockchain, basically having recoded contract execution or some sort that gets recorded in layerzero itself and then you're eligible but then again its just assumption.
after all, just the same usually with these airdrops in general, they didn't disclose the qualifications for the sake of getting people into trying everything out in their blockchain.

As for the volume, this will necessarily act as an additional criterion when determining the size of the airdrop. The team will not distribute the same amount of airdrop for all wallets that were registered in the blockchain and, accordingly, different criteria will be required so that everyone's contribution is appreciated.

How about this... What if there were a ton of people who gamed the airdrop that made around 1k USD of volume that it won't make sense for Layer Zero Labs to give the ZRO tokens as it would fck up distribution. Imagine giving people who own 10 or more wallets and all they'll do is dump their tokens and leave. That's the exact opposite of what they're trying to do here. They want an organic way to set their project up, not enrich people who don't care about the protocol. So they better be careful how they proceed with the airdrop.

I saw in a video that a group of people from China doing airdrop farming in an office. This seems insane at first glance, but it seems logical if you look into other projects like arbitrum and optimism. Their profit share changed lot of people's lives. All this is a speculative approach, and all of their work can be in vain because no one knows about the possible requirements to be eligible for the airdrop.

What impossible requirements? I mean sure higher volume would help get you into the list but it's not exactly a prerequisite. What Layer Zero is trying to stop are the botters. This time it's a partnership with Nomis and I think it's going to be with a couple other projects next. And pretty sure there will be a lot of legit users' wallets who'll be marked as botters. It's gonna suck but it is what it is. :/

Stay safe out there guys.

There isn't any official confirmation that there will be an airdrop. If the team announced any possible ZRO token creation in the future, then it would be logical to think of an airdrop. There is no mention of any ZRO tokens from the team either. Only some speculative leak data from GitHub mentioned a token called ZRO. No one knows the true purpose of it in those GitHub pages. Sad

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Quote from: AnonBitCoiner on September 19, 2023, 12:52:49 PM

Quote from: @sriyan on September 19, 2023, 01:30:52 AM

...So don't waste your money on layer zero...

...Layerzero airdrop is confirmed and I am not agree with you. Layerzero token ZRO will be launch soon and I hope airdrop will be bigger than arbitrum...

One says that there will definitely be no airdrop, the other claims that the airdrop LayerZero has already been confirmed, but no one gives any evidence here. If you know more than others, indicate a link where can find confirmation of your words.

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 19, 2023, 01:30:52 AM

I received $10K(multiple accounts) from the Optimism Round 3 today. But there are no layer zero airdrops btw Grin

. So don't waste your money on layer zero. Also, they will farm forever. First, they need to focus on the FTX case against them. It was a 45M deal.

$10k how? I checked many users just received 10-100 tokens and also eligibility criteria was to delegate votes and minimum OP is I think 100 OP. Layerzero airdrop is confirmed and I am not agree with you. Layerzero token ZRO will be launch soon and I hope airdrop will be bigger than arbitrum. FTX case is serious issue but hope they will overcome this case. I made many transaction for Layerzero airdrop but unfortunately didn't delegated OP so I didn't get any token in third airdrop.

I found site for checking Layerzero rank based on Arbitrum airdrop.
https://nftcopilot.com/layer-zero-rank-check?

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Quote from: @sriyan on September 19, 2023, 01:30:52 AM

I received $10K(multiple accounts) from the Optimism Round 3 today. But there are no layer zero airdrops btw Grin

. So don't waste your money on layer zero. ..

Since you are so sure that there will be no airdrop from LayerZero, then you have a great opportunity to increase your deposit. Bets are accepted on Polymarket https://polymarket.com/event/layerzero-airdrop-by-oct-31 and if the L0 team does not announce an airdrop by October 31, then the victory will be yours.

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Quote from: Sophokles on September 17, 2023, 11:37:26 AM

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on August 13, 2023, 06:22:30 PM

$1k definitely enough even some of the airdrops out there only require specific qualifications that don't necessarily requires you to spend and create that much volume.
most of them are just adding criteria of having interacted with their smart contract codes and thats it.
i guess layerzero gonna be the same, you just required to interact with their blockchain, basically having recoded contract execution or some sort that gets recorded in layerzero itself and then you're eligible but then again its just assumption.
after all, just the same usually with these airdrops in general, they didn't disclose the qualifications for the sake of getting people into trying everything out in their blockchain.

As for the volume, this will necessarily act as an additional criterion when determining the size of the airdrop. The team will not distribute the same amount of airdrop for all wallets that were registered in the blockchain and, accordingly, different criteria will be required so that everyone's contribution is appreciated.

How about this... What if there were a ton of people who gamed the airdrop that made around 1k USD of volume that it won't make sense for Layer Zero Labs to give the ZRO tokens as it would fck up distribution. Imagine giving people who own 10 or more wallets and all they'll do is dump their tokens and leave. That's the exact opposite of what they're trying to do here. They want an organic way to set their project up, not enrich people who don't care about the protocol. So they better be careful how they proceed with the airdrop.

I saw in a video that a group of people from China doing airdrop farming in an office. This seems insane at first glance, but it seems logical if you look into other projects like arbitrum and optimism. Their profit share changed lot of people's lives. All this is a speculative approach, and all of their work can be in vain because no one knows about the possible requirements to be eligible for the airdrop.

What impossible requirements? I mean sure higher volume would help get you into the list but it's not exactly a prerequisite. What Layer Zero is trying to stop are the botters. This time it's a partnership with Nomis and I think it's going to be with a couple other projects next. And pretty sure there will be a lot of legit users' wallets who'll be marked as botters. It's gonna suck but it is what it is. :/

Stay safe out there guys.

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