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Topic: ❎฿ ► ฿ ►฿ LEALANA PHYSICAL BTC & LTC RESUMING SALES (UNFUNDED) - page 9. (Read 21441 times)

legendary
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Smoothie,  recently 2 of your LTC coins received MS-68 grades from ANACS...that is higher than any Casascius!
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I posted an auction here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6822180

for the first assembled 0.1 BTC brass coins. They have the lowest numbered holograms on them.  Smiley
legendary
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USA mainland group buy getting started come join us to split the cost on shipping https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6787863.

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Hey smoothie !

Glad you are back in business ! Smiley

Do you have a set maximum quantity that will be produced for each coins ?

I'm interested in buying 20 brass coins but if the volume is too high, it might be a deal breaker in my case...

Minted both 10,000 each of the LTC and BTC brass coins.

I would guess that the amount sold and in circulation wouldn't go above 7500 or so of each.

I won't be minting 2013 brass coins anymore. The holograms I got for these will only be used on these coins. If I make another brass batch they will have differing holograms to decipher the coins.
hero member
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Hey smoothie !

Glad you are back in business ! Smiley

Do you have a set maximum quantity that will be produced for each coins ?

I'm interested in buying 20 brass coins but if the volume is too high, it might be a deal breaker in my case...
legendary
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May the coin be with you..
I might be interested in a few if a reputable EU user runs a GB

You seem quite trustworthy... Why don't you sort one? Wink

That's very kind of you Smiley

I'll see if anyone else steps forward to make a GB first, if not I might be able to arrange a small one
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Each coin from now on will be marked with an epilog laser "BUYER FUNDED" on the hologram.
 I understand that.  To me, the coin loses some of its magic with a "BUYER FUNDED" marking that really means "This my be empty - go check before accepting".  I was hoping you'd consider selling coins that didn't require a  "BUYER FUNDED" label because you certified it before it was shipped.

All of my previous coins and all other physical coins would require you to check the balance despite being funded.
I understand that physical attacks are possible (Actually, I was across the hallway in another talk when the Casascius coin was opened with minimal damage at DefCon.), but I'd be comfortable buying small denomination coins based on physical verification.  Besides, a sneaky seller that peeked at the key would probably spend it after you verified the balance, anyways.

Don't get me wrong.  I think it is great that you're bringing these back!  I'm keeping my current ones for the long haul!

If I were to fund coins I would be targeted as "money transmitting", which I do not want to be accused of from the financial regulators, hence my approach.

I could have buyers fund their own coins prior to my shipping to them but that opens up the possibility of a coin getting lost in transit that was funded. Not to mention international customers being subject to paying high taxes for funded coins when going through customs. If the buyer is willing to take on the risk of that happening I may consider not marking the coins and just checking that the coins were funded before I ship them.

I'm going to be scanning all of my coins and much like Mike I will be digitally signing the pdfs for the coins should a buyer request the pdfs to see how they looked when they were sold (as tampering generally will leave some movement of the hologram etc.)

Lasering the edges of the security holograms adds some physical security to the attacks that exist. Mike used a similar approach and had the attackers attempt to crack it and supposedly (don't take my word for it) they were not successful cracking the lasered coin(s). The edges turn very brittle at that point and any small tampering will likely show. Of course nothing is hack-proof.


BTW thanks for the kind words. It is nice to be back producing coins once again!  Grin
sr. member
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Turning money into heat since 2011.
Each coin from now on will be marked with an epilog laser "BUYER FUNDED" on the hologram.
  I understand that.  To me, the coin loses some of its magic with a "BUYER FUNDED" marking that really means "This my be empty - go check before accepting".  I was hoping you'd consider selling coins that didn't require a  "BUYER FUNDED" label because you certified it before it was shipped.

All of my previous coins and all other physical coins would require you to check the balance despite being funded.
I understand that physical attacks are possible (Actually, I was across the hallway in another talk when the Casascius coin was opened with minimal damage at DefCon.), but I'd be comfortable buying small denomination coins based on physical verification.  Besides, a sneaky seller that peeked at the key would probably spend it after you verified the balance, anyways.

Don't get me wrong.  I think it is great that you're bringing these back!  I'm keeping my current ones for the long haul!
legendary
Activity: 2492
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
He ships from Hawaii... so not cheap for him I would assume.

Smoothie,
First of all, I'm glad to see you are back, and with a new coin no less.  Do you plan to have a mainland U.S. based reseller so those in the continental U.S. can save on shipping?  I'm sure those overseas would like a reseller over there.



If not, does anyone want to organize a group buy?  I'd prefer to avoid the high shipping costs to get a few coins.  Since these are unfunded, they probably don't need to be sent registered / overnight mail....at least the brass ones shouldn't.

I currently do not any reseller at this time for BUYER FUNDED coins. Previously to my shutting down coin sales I've had multiple individuals buy coins in bulk and then resell them on ebay etc.  Of course I am open to the idea if all the details work for both parties involved. PM /email ([email protected]) me if you are interested in being a reseller of my coins in the EU or 48 contiguous states.

Feel free to create a group buy.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
The thought of coins that require recipients to check the value on-line, is a bit unappealing to me.

Would you consider user-funded coins that ship after the user funds them?  
Something like:
1) Order sent to you, with payment for the physical coin.
2) You send customer the coin address to load.
3) Customer loads the coin, and you ship, with certificate, after confirming the coin is loaded.

This would require a bit more tracking on your part, and increases risk of lost mail(need for insurance).  For me; knowing every coin in the wild had at least the face value loaded, would be worth a bit of extra cost up front to cover your time, insurance, etc.

Each coin from now on will be marked with an epilog laser "BUYER FUNDED" on the hologram.

All of my previous coins and all other physical coins would require you to check the balance despite being funded. This would be a good idea despite knowing I fund all of my previous coins.

All orders are being shipped via USPS registered mail, both domestic and international. I've had much success sending orders this way as none have gone missing.

The shipping cost is set so that no matter how many coins you order the shipping is the same price.

I can add options to the website for bulk orders of 20 coins of a particular type to my website LEALANA.COM. I'll likely set this up later on today. Group buys are welcome.  Smiley
legendary
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I might be interested in a few if a reputable EU user runs a GB

You seem quite trustworthy... Why don't you sort one? Wink
sr. member
Activity: 285
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Turning money into heat since 2011.
The thought of coins that require recipients to check the value on-line, is a bit unappealing to me.

Would you consider user-funded coins that ship after the user funds them?  
Something like:
1) Order sent to you, with payment for the physical coin.
2) You send customer the coin address to load.
3) Customer loads the coin, and you ship, with certificate, after confirming the coin is loaded.

This would require a bit more tracking on your part, and increases risk of lost mail(need for insurance).  For me; knowing every coin in the wild had at least the face value loaded, would be worth a bit of extra cost up front to cover your time, insurance, etc.
legendary
Activity: 1578
Merit: 1000
May the coin be with you..
I might be interested in a few if a reputable EU user runs a GB
legendary
Activity: 1470
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Star Wars Ep. 9 is here
Sign me up.  I'm in the U.S.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
He ships from Hawaii... so not cheap for him I would assume.

Smoothie,
First of all, I'm glad to see you are back, and with a new coin no less.  Do you plan to have a mainland U.S. based reseller so those in the continental U.S. can save on shipping?  I'm sure those overseas would like a reseller over there.

If not, does anyone want to organize a group buy?  I'd prefer to avoid the high shipping costs to get a few coins.  Since these are unfunded, they probably don't need to be sent registered / overnight mail....at least the brass ones shouldn't.

I'd join the group buy for some physical LTC

I'm looking into starting a small group buy for the mainland US. I'll post a link if I can get it worked out.

Edit: Come join the US group buy, especially if you want to save some BTC on the brass 1/10btc coins. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6787863
legendary
Activity: 3178
Merit: 1348
He ships from Hawaii... so not cheap for him I would assume.

Smoothie,
First of all, I'm glad to see you are back, and with a new coin no less.  Do you plan to have a mainland U.S. based reseller so those in the continental U.S. can save on shipping?  I'm sure those overseas would like a reseller over there.



If not, does anyone want to organize a group buy?  I'd prefer to avoid the high shipping costs to get a few coins.  Since these are unfunded, they probably don't need to be sent registered / overnight mail....at least the brass ones shouldn't.

I'd join the group buy for some physical LTC

EDIT: European group buy.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1017
Star Wars Ep. 9 is here
He ships from Hawaii... so not cheap for him I would assume.

Smoothie,
First of all, I'm glad to see you are back, and with a new coin no less.  Do you plan to have a mainland U.S. based reseller so those in the continental U.S. can save on shipping?  I'm sure those overseas would like a reseller over there.



If not, does anyone want to organize a group buy?  I'd prefer to avoid the high shipping costs to get a few coins.  Since these are unfunded, they probably don't need to be sent registered / overnight mail....at least the brass ones shouldn't.
legendary
Activity: 1960
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One coin to rule them all
Awesome Smoothie!

It will be interesting to see if the self-fundend coins will achieve a high premium price (over time).
The "old" funded coins on has a high pretty high premium price right now on the 2nd market.
 
legendary
Activity: 2128
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He ships from Hawaii... so not cheap for him I would assume.
legendary
Activity: 1456
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Why is it just over $40 for domestic shipping on a small order of two coins?
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