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Topic: Ledger Nano invalid recovery phrase after update. help. Reward - 0.5 BCH! - page 2. (Read 579 times)

newbie
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Have been PMing the OP... I think the issue is going to be that he is using Ledger Nano S with ETH... if he is using the Ledger ETH Chrome app, then seedrecovery.py won't work as for some reason Ledger set their wallet up using a non-BIP44 compatible derivation path of m/44'/60'/0' (ETH BIP44 is m/44'/60'/0'/0') Undecided

The select dialog for choosing your wallet type even says:
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Ethereum Standard BIP39/BIP44 (Jaxx, MetaMask, MyEtherWallet, TREZOR, Exodus, NOT Ledger)

I believe it SHOULD be possible to modify the code to add an option to work with Ledger... and my initial tests seem to be OK... just need to discuss with OP


Youre awesome!!!! Becuase my wallet was created on a ledger nano s and then i used myetherwallet to receive ethereum from bittrex. When i plugged in the nano on myetherwallet after typed in the pin code on my ledger it pops up the box showing 4 addresses that i can choose to send ethereum to. The very first address have all my coins and the derivation path always be Ledger (ETH) m/44’/60’/0’
Hope that after you have rescripted the codes for it to find my wallet i will be a happy person again.
Thank you very much in advance HCP!!  Youre the man!!
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
Have been PMing the OP... I think the issue is going to be that he is using Ledger Nano S with ETH... if he is using the Ledger ETH Chrome app, then seedrecovery.py won't work as for some reason Ledger set their wallet up using a non-BIP44 compatible derivation path of m/44'/60'/0' (ETH BIP44 is m/44'/60'/0'/0') Undecided

The select dialog for choosing your wallet type even says:
Quote
Ethereum Standard BIP39/BIP44 (Jaxx, MetaMask, MyEtherWallet, TREZOR, Exodus, NOT Ledger)

I believe it SHOULD be possible to modify the code to add an option to work with Ledger... and my initial tests seem to be OK... just need to discuss with OP
legendary
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Could you please say it in simple english??
Is there any scripts that i can run to find the correct position as well as the word that have the address cointaned my coins??
Thanks

Like written earlier, this tool:
can check all possible words if you got 1 word wrong.

Now, since you have 23 words.. you could call that 23 correct words + 1 wrong word.
Now try to make 24 seeds with your 23 correct words and your 1 wrong word starting at position 1, moving always one to the right.
So your second seed to check has the wrong word in the 2nd position, your third seed in the 3rd position, and so on..

Afterwards you run the script mentionoed above on all 24 seeds. The script will replace the wrong word with all possible words (for each of your 24 possible missing word-positions).


As far as i know there is no script yet which does exactly this. But you can easily do this 'by hand' or write a small python script by yourself which
calls the recovery-script 24 time with different seeds. If you are not a 'friend of computer' at all:

If you aren't able to set it up properly you should try to find a reputable(!) and honest person on this forum to do this for you for a small fee.
newbie
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Im not trying to replace incorrect words or anything. Its just this i have all 23 words right now in correct order. My problem is that i dont exactly know what the missing word is and its position inbetween from 1-23
Could you tell me is there anyone else that could help me with this, because im feeling so desperate for the past few days. Thank you very much

You could iterate the 'wrong-world-role' between those 24 positions, running the script 24 times.
Its just 24 times slower than the 'normal usage'.. its still doable (and pretty straight forward).



Sorry for my ingronant i dont understand most of what you were saying, sorry!
Could you please say it in simple english??
Is there any scripts that i can run to find the correct position as well as the word that have the address cointaned my coins??
Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 2481
Im not trying to replace incorrect words or anything. Its just this i have all 23 words right now in correct order. My problem is that i dont exactly know what the missing word is and its position inbetween from 1-23
Could you tell me is there anyone else that could help me with this, because im feeling so desperate for the past few days. Thank you very much

You could iterate the 'wrong-world-role' between those 24 positions, running the script 24 times.
Its just 24 times slower than the 'normal usage'.. its still doable (and pretty straight forward).
newbie
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Hi HCP could you please help me to recover the last word of my recovery seed?
From word number 1-23 im pretty sure its in exactly order, that the word number 23 is last word. Im pretty sure. Right now i cant find a simple solution to check the position of the missing word and what the word was. Could you please help me to find the correct seed that have the address of my coin i will pay you.

You can use the btcrecover tool: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/.
Or to be more precise the seedrecovery.py: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

This tool checks your seed for mistakes and tries to replace the wrong word.
The safest would be if you read yourself into installing/setting up the seedrecovery tool.
If you aren't able to set it up properly you should try to find a reputable(!) and honest person on this forum to do this for you for a small fee.






Im not trying to replace incorrect words or anything. Its just this i have all 23 words right now in correct order. My problem is that i dont exactly know what the missing word is and its position inbetween from 1-23
Could you tell me is there anyone else that could help me with this, because im feeling so desperate for the past few days. Thank you very much
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
Pretty much exactly what I advised via PM Wink

Unfortunately, installing and setting up Python, while not overly complicated, isn't exactly a "point and click" operation...

I've found a short YouTube clip that demonstrates installing and configuring the system Path variable on Windows here: https://youtu.be/QYUBz4mrnFU

Following that should allow most people to get Python 2.7 installed (DON'T install Python 3!!) and setup with "pip"... On Windows 7 systems.

Note: It'll mostly work the same with Windows 10, just the "environment variable setup" is a bit different. Click "start", click "settings" icon (little cog icon just above start button) and then in the search box, type "environment"... It will show a link to "edit system environment variables"... Which brings up the same dialog box as shown in the video
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 2481
Hi HCP could you please help me to recover the last word of my recovery seed?
From word number 1-23 im pretty sure its in exactly order, that the word number 23 is last word. Im pretty sure. Right now i cant find a simple solution to check the position of the missing word and what the word was. Could you please help me to find the correct seed that have the address of my coin i will pay you.

You can use the btcrecover tool: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/.
Or to be more precise the seedrecovery.py: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

This tool checks your seed for mistakes and tries to replace the wrong word.
The safest would be if you read yourself into installing/setting up the seedrecovery tool.
If you aren't able to set it up properly you should try to find a reputable(!) and honest person on this forum to do this for you for a small fee.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Hi HCP could you please help me to recover the last word of my recovery seed?
From word number 1-23 im pretty sure its in exactly order, that the word number 23 is last word. Im pretty sure. Right now i cant find a simple solution to check the position of the missing word and what the word was. Could you please help me to find the correct seed that have the address of my coin i will pay you.
Thank you very much , i hope you see his because i have been so desperate the past few days
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
There are a couple of possible causes:

1. You have non BIP39 words written down in your 24 words.
2. You have BIP39 words, but in the wrong order.
3. You have the wrong BIP39 words.
4. The firmware is bad.

#1 is easy enough to check... do as bob123 suggested and make sure all your words are in the BIP39 wordlist

I've seen cases of #2 caused by someone filling the recovery sheet in the wrong order... it is two columns of 12 numbers, (ie. 1-12 and 13-24 going DOWN then across) like this:

1    13
2    14
3    15
4    16
5    17
6    18
7    19
8    20
9    21
10  22
11  23
12  24

... but some people write their seed as 12 rows of 2 (ie. going ACROSS then down) on the recovery sheet...

1    2
3    4
5    6
7    8
9    10
11  12
13  14
15  16
17  18
19  20
21  22
23  24

but the recovery sheet is still numbered in columns going down... so when they are asked to type it in, they get the words in the wrong order!! Undecided

#3 is pretty common, as there are a LOT of very similar words in the word list... kid, kind, kit, kite, then, them etc. It can be VERY easy to get these mixed up. gurnec's seed recovery can help with this: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Seedrecover_Quick_Start_Guide.md

#4 would be relatively rare... one would assume Ledger would do quite thorough testing before releasing a new firmware to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Although, given that your update didn't go well... it is possible the firmware is corrupted in some way. Maybe try and redo the firmware update so that you can be sure there are no issues.


legendary
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You can theoretically install the old firmware again. But this won't get you any further since your seed still will shown as invalid.

Did you do what i recommended you to do?
You could compare the BIP39 word list with the words you have written down (https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39).
If one from the words you have written down is not in this list you can try to replace it with similar looking words and try out if this works for you.

Are all words in this list: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt ?

If no: There you go, you misstyped 1 word
If yes: This probably won't be the case. If this really should be the case and ledger broke their old nano wallets with a new update or your device is somehow 'broken',
then you can throw your 24 word seed into a BIP39 mnemonic seed calculator (only do this offline!) and look up some addresses which have coins on it.
Afterwards just export those private keys and import them into a new wallet.
newbie
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Merit: 0
my one is just nano, old one.
all words are correct as i said i checked 3 times after i wrote them down.
is it possible restart wallet or back to old software?
also maybe i need to buy new nano s and do recovery on new one..
thanks for reply
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 2481
Any updates on the nano s usually don't take longer than 30 seconds. And no way they take up to 24 hours.
If it says invalid recovery phrase this means that at least one of your words is not in the BIP39 word list used to generate those seeds.
You could compare the BIP39 word list with the words you have written down (https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39).
If one from the words you have written down is not in this list you can try to replace it with similar looking words and try out if this works for you.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Hi guys,
I did an update for my ledger nano and wanted to claim btc cash.
update it self wasn't smooth. stuck on my windows 7 so i had to finish on macbook (recomended on ledger site).
When i was trying to recover wallet after typing 24 words it says invalid recovery phrase.
I know i didnt make mistake when i was writing down them, tripple checked Smiley
Now i remember on the screen before updating was something saying that update can take up to 24h.
anyone had something like that?
thanks
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