Topic: Legal Actions against Nefario - page 2. (Read 5232 times)

I am not saying he's dealing with this well, in fact I have said he has dealt with all of this pretty poorly.
I am not his messenger, I am not going to sit and defend James, but you asked for contact details, so I just added that I could give you the info

I think this is counter productive, and that trying to sue James will only lead to more delays and maybe no return of assets at all, which is why I am trying to mediate to reach a better solution.
//DeaDTerra

Sorry, but you're being ridiculous.

Communication? He has not communicated shit to users or asset holders, except the ones in his scammy inner circle.
And we have to swallow all the shit that is posted here as "official" based on private phonecalls and other unverifiable sources.

Threats? Well, first he stabbed everyone in the back, closing and withholding all your without btc/assets without even a warning - that is worse than any threat.
And at any rate, he's resorting to threats and blackmail too, now the website says he'll only resume processing account closures when all the btc he sprayed around comes flying back.

So, no thanks, keep your details for yourself, there are enough around already.
And if James wants to talk, he's been notified by email.

That's all folks, let the games begin.


BTW personally I don't think this is the way to get my assets back.
But there is no other way, so fuck it, let's get James into some hot action at least, he brought it on himself.

You do as you which, but I believe you will get nothing from taking legal action against Nefario and I think it can be solved with communication better then with threats.
//DeaDTerra

I think nefario's life since leaving Sun Systems is a worse punishment than any government can place on him.

Nefario sacrificed a lot in his personal life to make GLBSE.

It's sad because no matter how good he made it the fundamental thing GLBSE was doing was illegal.

I'm glad he decided to step back and reevaluate what he was doing.

I hope his very public involvement in bitcoin has not made him unemployable.

talk is cheap.
Time to walk the walk.

If anyone is serious about taking legal action and would like to get a hold of Nefario please pm me with details and if I am convinced then I will give you his phone number for easy access and maybe you can solve it that way instead of having to take legal action...
//DeaDTerra

I support the action and sent James an email letting him know about this, in case he wants to do something right for once and explain what, how and when he's going to finally clear this mess. Not hoping for any twists in the plot though. Not even that he reads the email.

Thanks for those. I will defenitely send a fraud alert on monday. Please til then anyone who supports this, send me a PM, anyone who has good reasons for me not donig this, please send it here publicly. Also I would like all informatin on James that you have so far, like Full Name, Adress, Date of birth, telefone and so on.

I take the risk to go down together since I still dont think I have done something wrong. I will go for "Fraud to do with a financial investment, e.g. purchasing stocks or shares, a mortgage or an investment scheme" -> "The victim invested in something not covered above"
 

At this point I vote for going down together.

Maybe it is possible to get it done for free.
This is US-based, don't think they'll go for UK stuff? Maybe.
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

The best would be to get hold of a UK-based agency.
[edit: here is the link for the UK agency:]
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

And well... we might all do down together, but at least no one will be laughing, right James?

Or I might just spend some more, just to see this guy behind bars!

Well, at least you got him the scammer tag. That should make him really angry, right?

Sad.

Thanks. Can you please tell me how I can get in contact with James? I had 250+ BC in my account and he doesnt even think he should write me or respond my email. Instead he is doing very silly things with all our money.

See what I am saying. This guy seems to be the greatest douchebag on earth. He is sitting on our BC + Assets and does everything wrong that could be done wrong. From the start.

He just double paid the first round of paybacks accidentally check your account maybe you already have 2x what you were owed lol

Well then take legal action against Nefario. Get a lawyer, have him send a letter to Nefario and I bet you'll get your coins back.

The tax thing is my problem. Til now I only lost money, if important at all, I would have to pay less tax. Also I will only have to declare this years tax next year. Also I am not aware that I will have to declare Bitcoins as long as I didnt turn them back into money.

I was not aware, that he is paying out big amounts as stated above. This of course changes the situation. But I really can't see why this is taking so long. Also I did not get one single email. To get my information I have to look at this forum and trust people who say that got paid. I don't know any of you personally, so what is this worth?
The way this is taken care of is so rouge, it can't only pe unprofessionalism. What does it cost to send an email to every client, updating status? Or at least confirm email adress. I can not even be sure if I didnt put in a typo on my request. Some people report they got emails but no BC, others got BC but no email. Other like me didnt get anything. This is simply not the contract I agreed to with GLBSE, thus legal action might be required.
I also think I did not do any illegal activity. Comparing this to buying drugs makes no sense. Possession of drugs is illegal. I bet you can't even spell out what exactly illegal it could be that I did. What I did was sending value to somebody who promised he gives it back anytime I want. Easy like that. We are talking about the BC lying in my account here. The guy just took them and doesnt give them back, nor does he respond to me or show any effort he would. End of story.

So you provided to them all the information they needed to ensure that you complied with tax obligations?  Asked them for regular statements to ensure that you can accurately report your income for tax purposes?  Have included your GLBSE "investments" on any financial statements requiring you to disclose your income and/or assets?

You can certainly claim that you didn't know GLBSE was an illegal securities exchange.  Mounting an argument that you weren't using it for any illegal purpose might be considerably harder, though because you're absolutely expected to be aware of your own taxation liabilities and to keep adequate records to verify your income and investments.  "I didn't know" doesn't fly when it comes to taxation offences.

And yes, it's ridiculous to even be talking about legal action against somebody who is actively paying.

If you just bought into some securities you can claim ignorance but not if you operated a security there. The court will ask you what reasonable due diligence you took to ensure the exchange was legal, which is probably none. This is like trying to sue a drug dealer who sold you fake drugs and then telling the court a story you assumed it was legal.

Isn't he returning coins if you hand over all your proof of identity? Though this screams entrapment