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Topic: Legal Risk you should know when you invest in CHINESE BTC Stock (Read 3013 times)

newbie
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newbie
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Thanks to the informtion.

Anunnaki is more farmiliar with Chinese Law even than native people.
sr. member
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Incorporate offshore, get nominee services and the risk is mostly eliminated. If anyone needs help, PMme
hero member
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China's national television- CCTV(China Central Television),  has reported Bitcoin affirmatively twice this year.

I do not see any chance that bitcoin will be declared as illegal in short-mid term in China.

except this has nothing to do with declaring bitcoin illegal

this is about prohibitions of unregistered capital formation, most countries have regulations regarding this, the penalties in China for ignoring these regulations can have criminal sanctions
member
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China's national television- CCTV(China Central Television),  has reported Bitcoin affirmatively twice this year.

I do not see any chance that bitcoin will be declared as illegal in short-mid term in China.
newbie
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You are right. Chinese law enforcement department may ignore bitcoin fundraising activity because they are not so attractive. However, once this kind of activity is reported by someone who declares that he suffers a loss from the illegal fund-raising, then Chinese law enforcement department will act immediately. As long as the government investigation starts, the manager of the Chinese BTC companies will soon repurchase the outstanding shares from investors at IPO price in order to be exempt from criminal charge.
i still don't think Chinese police will be interested in bitcoin case. there are dozens or hundreds of game coin stealing cases in China everyday, but little is done by the police, virtual money is not seriously taken in this country. companies like Asicminer and labcoin don't need to worry about it too much, they don't touch fiar money, and police pays no attention to them

Perhaps we don't need to guess what they think. That's a tricky question. 
newbie
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Isn't ASICMiner in China?

They were fortunate enough to evade that (at least from what we know on the forums). Their IPO took place before all the hype/fervor came to Bitcoin. Kind of makes you wonder if this ends up giving AM the edge, with all other projects unable to crowdsource funds.

However, it also does mean potential difficulties should BitFountain decide to issue more shares.  Undecided

But aren't they STILL in china??

Yes, Shenzhen I believe.

I will visit ASICMINER if available.
newbie
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You are right. Chinese law enforcement department may ignore bitcoin fundraising activity because they are not so attractive. However, once this kind of activity is reported by someone who declares that he suffers a loss from the illegal fund-raising, then Chinese law enforcement department will act immediately. As long as the government investigation starts, the manager of the Chinese BTC companies will soon repurchase the outstanding shares from investors at IPO price in order to be exempt from criminal charge.
i still don't think Chinese police will be interested in bitcoin case. there are dozens or hundreds of game coin stealing cases in China everyday, but little is done by the police, virtual money is not seriously taken in this country. companies like Asicminer and labcoin don't need to worry about it too much, they don't touch fiar money, and police pays no attention to them
hero member
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Isn't ASICMiner in China?

They were fortunate enough to evade that (at least from what we know on the forums). Their IPO took place before all the hype/fervor came to Bitcoin. Kind of makes you wonder if this ends up giving AM the edge, with all other projects unable to crowdsource funds.

However, it also does mean potential difficulties should BitFountain decide to issue more shares.  Undecided

But aren't they STILL in china??

Yes, Shenzhen I believe.
legendary
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Isn't ASICMiner in China?

They were fortunate enough to evade that (at least from what we know on the forums). Their IPO took place before all the hype/fervor came to Bitcoin. Kind of makes you wonder if this ends up giving AM the edge, with all other projects unable to crowdsource funds.

However, it also does mean potential difficulties should BitFountain decide to issue more shares.  Undecided

But aren't they STILL in china??
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Isn't ASICMiner in China?

They were fortunate enough to evade that (at least from what we know on the forums). Their IPO took place before all the hype/fervor came to Bitcoin. Kind of makes you wonder if this ends up giving AM the edge, with all other projects unable to crowdsource funds.

However, it also does mean potential difficulties should BitFountain decide to issue more shares.  Undecided
legendary
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Isn't ASICMiner in China?
sr. member
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legendary
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Maybe BTCGarden's mistake was telling everyone they are in China. It may be better if people are not aware where the operation takes place.

If they did not tell they're from China then they will be accused of hiding something or lying, and lying = scam.
newbie
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Maybe BTCGarden's mistake was telling everyone they are in China. It may be better if people are not aware where the operation takes place.
BTCGARDEN has a unique weakness: it also runs a btc-rmb exchange platform. Yianding asks people to buy btc in that platform and buy BTCGARDEN stock with these btc, which makes it look like that BTCGARDEN is gathering fiat money, it's very dangerous. And other companies don't have this problem

Actually, it doesn't matter what BTCGARDEN gathering. Collecting fiat money or commodity goods (Bitcoin is still a goods rather than a currency in China) will be counted as disguised fund-raising according to the law.
but in China, law is not as important as the willing of law enforcement department. if it is about fiat money, police is very interested to investigate, bitcoin or other goods are not so attactive, which makes it much more safe. anyway, China is not a country ruled by law, it's ruled by man

You are right. Chinese law enforcement department may ignore bitcoin fundraising activity because they are not so attractive. However, once this kind of activity is reported by someone who declares that he suffers a loss from the illegal fund-raising, then Chinese law enforcement department will act immediately. As long as the government investigation starts, the manager of the Chinese BTC companies will soon repurchase the outstanding shares from investors at IPO price in order to be exempt from criminal charge.
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
Maybe BTCGarden's mistake was telling everyone they are in China. It may be better if people are not aware where the operation takes place.
BTCGARDEN has a unique weakness: it also runs a btc-rmb exchange platform. Yianding asks people to buy btc in that platform and buy BTCGARDEN stock with these btc, which makes it look like that BTCGARDEN is gathering fiat money, it's very dangerous. And other companies don't have this problem

Actually, it doesn't matter what BTCGARDEN gathering. Collecting fiat money or commodity goods (Bitcoin is still a goods rather than a currency in China) will be counted as disguised fund-raising according to the law.
but in China, law is not as important as the willing of law enforcement department. if it is about fiat money, police is very interested to investigate, bitcoin or other goods are not so attactive, which makes it much more safe. anyway, China is not a country ruled by law, it's ruled by man
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Maybe BTCGarden's mistake was telling everyone they are in China. It may be better if people are not aware where the operation takes place.
BTCGARDEN has a unique weakness: it also runs a btc-rmb exchange platform. Yianding asks people to buy btc in that platform and buy BTCGARDEN stock with these btc, which makes it look like that BTCGARDEN is gathering fiat money, it's very dangerous. And other companies don't have this problem

Actually, it doesn't matter what BTCGARDEN gathering. Collecting fiat money or commodity goods (Bitcoin is still a goods rather than a currency in China) will be counted as disguised fund-raising according to the law.
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
Maybe BTCGarden's mistake was telling everyone they are in China. It may be better if people are not aware where the operation takes place.
BTCGARDEN has a unique weakness: it also runs a btc-rmb exchange platform. Yianding asks people to buy btc in that platform and buy BTCGARDEN stock with these btc, which makes it look like that BTCGARDEN is gathering fiat money, it's very dangerous. And other companies don't have this problem
newbie
Activity: 57
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in China, nonfinancial companies can't even borrow money from each other, it's also illegal
legendary
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Maybe BTCGarden's mistake was telling everyone they are in China. It may be better if people are not aware where the operation takes place.
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