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jr. member
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August 15, 2017, 10:44:13 PM
#34
Magandang usapin ang legalidad ng bitcoin sa pinas. Mga bagay na may kinalaman sa tax at anti-money laundering. Ano ang mga limitasyon natin? Kung may ginagawa na bang mga pag-aaral o aksyon ang gobyerno dito. Marami akong gustong malaman at susundan ko itong thread na ito.
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August 15, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
#33
Marami pang kelngang ayusin ang pamahalaan para magkaroon ng legality dito yan. Papasok Jan ang pagbubuhos ng buwis sa ating mga bitcoiner, ang paggawa NG mga bagong batas regarding sa cryptocurrencies. Mukhang masyadong malalim na usapin pa ang lalakbayin natin dito. Oo medyo okie naman tayo sa ngayon dahil hindi pa tayo sinisilip ng gobyerno Kaya tahimik lang muna tayo hanggat hindi pa ito nagkakaroon ng malinaw na mga transaksyon. Play safe. Earn more.
sr. member
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August 15, 2017, 06:08:14 PM
#32
hahahhhahaha kaya nga po eh meron akong kaklase nakakapag widraw sya ng napaka laki then ewan ko ba minsan nakakatakot den eh pero legal tong bitcoin small tax lang pinapataw nila

May tax na ba ang bitcoin sa atin? last time I check wala pa naman ah ang magbabayad lang sa gobyerno ay ang mga exchanges to have their licenses etc. Sa ngayon libre pa, pero baka sa future patawan na nila.
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August 15, 2017, 05:58:49 PM
#31
hahahhhahaha kaya nga po eh meron akong kaklase nakakapag widraw sya ng napaka laki then ewan ko ba minsan nakakatakot den eh pero legal tong bitcoin small tax lang pinapataw nila
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August 02, 2017, 03:26:06 AM
#30
I highly doubt if phil government has the capacity to do so. They have more laundering issues with peso to deal with than Bitcoin. If they do, just tell them the truth that you're trading bitcoins. In Philippines, the liquidity flow is being regulated that means, you can only cash out so much in a day. As such, coins.ph's liquidity are based on the customer's account levels. At best, If you're trying to cash out millions it would take weeks. I'm not too familiar with buybitcoin.ph but I believe they have similar liquidity mechanism. The point is, every liquidity flow is already regulated unless you transact p2p.

You may want to review the ff:
- http://www.bsp.gov.ph/downloads/regulations/attachments/2017/c944.pdf
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory#Southern_Asia

And, there's no tax guidelines when owning bitcoin in phils yet. Government can't tax a currency. So there's none.

I agree with you Sir, salamat sa info, siguro pag mature na Bansa natin baka malegalize na ang Bitcoin. Sa ngayon parang malabo pa tayo in legalizong bitcoin sa Pinas. Dami pa nating problema

It's actually already legal. There has been few applications lined up to bsp for operating ph-based crypto exchanges.
San mo nabasa yan? at sana ma approved para mas mabilis mag withdraw at baka sakaling magka atm si bitcoin satin hindi natin pumunta sa banko para iwithdraw pa atm machine nalang. Yung gcash kase medyo mahal yung fee.

Here:
https://news.bitcoin.com/philippines-government-yet-to-approve-cryptocurrency-exchange-applicants/
https://www.coindesk.com/philippine-central-bank-sees-few-applicants-for-crypto-exchange-license/

That was just recently. I believe coins.ph has a service where you can withdraw from an ATM machine (security bank) without having a card or bank account.
Legal na po pala siya eh, kaso hindi naman po siya as a currency parang one way to remit money pero kumbaga sa cash natin hindi pa siya legal tender pang exchange value lang siya at pang trading talaga,. at least good news to dahil  kinikilala na ng government natin to hindi tulad sa ibang bansa na binaban pa nila to.
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August 02, 2017, 12:31:08 AM
#29
I highly doubt if phil government has the capacity to do so. They have more laundering issues with peso to deal with than Bitcoin. If they do, just tell them the truth that you're trading bitcoins. In Philippines, the liquidity flow is being regulated that means, you can only cash out so much in a day. As such, coins.ph's liquidity are based on the customer's account levels. At best, If you're trying to cash out millions it would take weeks. I'm not too familiar with buybitcoin.ph but I believe they have similar liquidity mechanism. The point is, every liquidity flow is already regulated unless you transact p2p.

You may want to review the ff:
- http://www.bsp.gov.ph/downloads/regulations/attachments/2017/c944.pdf
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory#Southern_Asia

And, there's no tax guidelines when owning bitcoin in phils yet. Government can't tax a currency. So there's none.

I agree with you Sir, salamat sa info, siguro pag mature na Bansa natin baka malegalize na ang Bitcoin. Sa ngayon parang malabo pa tayo in legalizong bitcoin sa Pinas. Dami pa nating problema

It's actually already legal. There has been few applications lined up to bsp for operating ph-based crypto exchanges.
San mo nabasa yan? at sana ma approved para mas mabilis mag withdraw at baka sakaling magka atm si bitcoin satin hindi natin pumunta sa banko para iwithdraw pa atm machine nalang. Yung gcash kase medyo mahal yung fee.

Here:
https://news.bitcoin.com/philippines-government-yet-to-approve-cryptocurrency-exchange-applicants/
https://www.coindesk.com/philippine-central-bank-sees-few-applicants-for-crypto-exchange-license/

That was just recently. I believe coins.ph has a service where you can withdraw from an ATM machine (security bank) without having a card or bank account.
sr. member
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August 02, 2017, 12:21:06 AM
#28
kung may  proweba ka namang ipapakita bkit ka haharangin diba...pag tinanong ka kung san galing yung pera mo. ei d sa pag bibitcoin so ipapaliwanag mona yun kung paano kumita..kasi legal naman yung bitcoin ei...

Sasabihan nalang sa pagbibitcoin bakit gusto mo rin ba subukan. Magtaka kasi sila lalo na if kung eh withdraw mo 50k tapos bata kapa magtatanong talaga yan sila. Kasi napaka imposible kasi magka 50 ang isang bata na walang trabaho .

hahaha ei bat nagkaroon ka nang 50k kung wla kang trabaho... maitutring din po na trabaho yung pag bibitcoin..hamalimbawa sa trading ei bata palang magaling na mag trade kahit bata po pwede nrin kumita....matanda lang ba pwede kumita....hindi naman po ilegal ang pag ttrade...ipakita mo sa kanila na ganun trabaho mo..pag pinasok mo yung pera mo sa bangko at nag withdraw ka dun papasok yung babayaran mong tax...pag sayo na pera mo pag binili mo nang ariarian mag babayad ka rin nang tax...
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August 02, 2017, 12:19:12 AM
#27
I highly doubt if phil government has the capacity to do so. They have more laundering issues with peso to deal with than Bitcoin. If they do, just tell them the truth that you're trading bitcoins. In Philippines, the liquidity flow is being regulated that means, you can only cash out so much in a day. As such, coins.ph's liquidity are based on the customer's account levels. At best, If you're trying to cash out millions it would take weeks. I'm not too familiar with buybitcoin.ph but I believe they have similar liquidity mechanism. The point is, every liquidity flow is already regulated unless you transact p2p.

You may want to review the ff:
- http://www.bsp.gov.ph/downloads/regulations/attachments/2017/c944.pdf
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory#Southern_Asia

And, there's no tax guidelines when owning bitcoin in phils yet. Government can't tax a currency. So there's none.

I agree with you Sir, salamat sa info, siguro pag mature na Bansa natin baka malegalize na ang Bitcoin. Sa ngayon parang malabo pa tayo in legalizong bitcoin sa Pinas. Dami pa nating problema

It's actually already legal. There has been few applications lined up to bsp for operating ph-based crypto exchanges.
San mo nabasa yan? at sana ma approved para mas mabilis mag withdraw at baka sakaling magka atm si bitcoin satin hindi natin pumunta sa banko para iwithdraw pa atm machine nalang. Yung gcash kase medyo mahal yung fee.
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August 02, 2017, 12:17:40 AM
#26
I highly doubt if phil government has the capacity to do so. They have more laundering issues with peso to deal with than Bitcoin. If they do, just tell them the truth that you're trading bitcoins. In Philippines, the liquidity flow is being regulated that means, you can only cash out so much in a day. As such, coins.ph's liquidity are based on the customer's account levels. At best, If you're trying to cash out millions it would take weeks. I'm not too familiar with buybitcoin.ph but I believe they have similar liquidity mechanism. The point is, every liquidity flow is already regulated unless you transact p2p.

You may want to review the ff:
- http://www.bsp.gov.ph/downloads/regulations/attachments/2017/c944.pdf
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory#Southern_Asia

And, there's no tax guidelines when owning bitcoin in phils yet. Government can't tax a currency. So there's none.

I agree with you Sir, salamat sa info, siguro pag mature na Bansa natin baka malegalize na ang Bitcoin. Sa ngayon parang malabo pa tayo in legalizong bitcoin sa Pinas. Dami pa nating problema
Sa ngayon talaga ay ang malabo pa yon marami pang dapat asikasuhin ng ating gobyerno lalo na ngayon ang priority talaga muna ay paano pababaain ang mga remittances ganun kaysa dito pero base sa mga nababasa ko kasalukuyan na tong pinag aaralan in fact kinikilala na tong as a mode of remitting money at mode of payment ng ating pamahalaan.
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August 01, 2017, 11:41:14 PM
#25
I highly doubt if phil government has the capacity to do so. They have more laundering issues with peso to deal with than Bitcoin. If they do, just tell them the truth that you're trading bitcoins. In Philippines, the liquidity flow is being regulated that means, you can only cash out so much in a day. As such, coins.ph's liquidity are based on the customer's account levels. At best, If you're trying to cash out millions it would take weeks. I'm not too familiar with buybitcoin.ph but I believe they have similar liquidity mechanism. The point is, every liquidity flow is already regulated unless you transact p2p.

You may want to review the ff:
- http://www.bsp.gov.ph/downloads/regulations/attachments/2017/c944.pdf
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory#Southern_Asia

And, there's no tax guidelines when owning bitcoin in phils yet. Government can't tax a currency. So there's none.

I agree with you Sir, salamat sa info, siguro pag mature na Bansa natin baka malegalize na ang Bitcoin. Sa ngayon parang malabo pa tayo in legalizong bitcoin sa Pinas. Dami pa nating problema

It's actually already legal. There has been few applications lined up to bsp for operating ph-based crypto exchanges.
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August 01, 2017, 11:17:27 PM
#24
I highly doubt if phil government has the capacity to do so. They have more laundering issues with peso to deal with than Bitcoin. If they do, just tell them the truth that you're trading bitcoins. In Philippines, the liquidity flow is being regulated that means, you can only cash out so much in a day. As such, coins.ph's liquidity are based on the customer's account levels. At best, If you're trying to cash out millions it would take weeks. I'm not too familiar with buybitcoin.ph but I believe they have similar liquidity mechanism. The point is, every liquidity flow is already regulated unless you transact p2p.

You may want to review the ff:
- http://www.bsp.gov.ph/downloads/regulations/attachments/2017/c944.pdf
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory#Southern_Asia

And, there's no tax guidelines when owning bitcoin in phils yet. Government can't tax a currency. So there's none.

I agree with you Sir, salamat sa info, siguro pag mature na Bansa natin baka malegalize na ang Bitcoin. Sa ngayon parang malabo pa tayo in legalizong bitcoin sa Pinas. Dami pa nating problema
sr. member
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August 01, 2017, 11:14:39 PM
#23
pwede ka mag tabi ng mga pruweba gaya ng mga reciept sa pinagwiwithdrawan mo at mga blockchain transaction para maipakita sa kanila na binabayaran ka at pde mo nman ipakita ang forum post mo para maniwala sila
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August 01, 2017, 10:23:24 PM
#22
Mga maam/sir what if ayun nga meron syang acc na medyu sabihin na nateng kumikita talaga ng malaki.. and then nagkaroon ng mga assets like lupa bahay and mga estates

Me mga pagkakataon ba na haharangin sya ng kung ano mang government chuchu na tatanungin sya kung saan nya nakukuha yunng pera nya na ganon kalaki and parang lilitisin.. kase alam ko me tax naman si bitcoin naten pag i exchange na diba??

Naisip ko lang po🙂
Paki correct po ako kung super mali hehehezz

dpende yan kung san mangagaling ung income mo sa pag bibitcoin kelangan din ata i declare yan pag sa assets mo na ang usapan lalo na pag malakihan. pero kung declared mo naman na legal galing di ka naman na nkukunan ng tax yan hehe.
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August 01, 2017, 09:46:30 PM
#21
kung may  proweba ka namang ipapakita bkit ka haharangin diba...pag tinanong ka kung san galing yung pera mo. ei d sa pag bibitcoin so ipapaliwanag mona yun kung paano kumita..kasi legal naman yung bitcoin ei...

Sasabihan nalang sa pagbibitcoin bakit gusto mo rin ba subukan. Magtaka kasi sila lalo na if kung eh withdraw mo 50k tapos bata kapa magtatanong talaga yan sila. Kasi napaka imposible kasi magka 50 ang isang bata na walang trabaho .

No it's not. I've transacted a little over 100k in 3 days and got no problem.
sr. member
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August 01, 2017, 09:35:34 PM
#20
kung may  proweba ka namang ipapakita bkit ka haharangin diba...pag tinanong ka kung san galing yung pera mo. ei d sa pag bibitcoin so ipapaliwanag mona yun kung paano kumita..kasi legal naman yung bitcoin ei...

Sasabihan nalang sa pagbibitcoin bakit gusto mo rin ba subukan. Magtaka kasi sila lalo na if kung eh withdraw mo 50k tapos bata kapa magtatanong talaga yan sila. Kasi napaka imposible kasi magka 50 ang isang bata na walang trabaho .
sr. member
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August 01, 2017, 01:05:43 PM
#19
Naisip ko lang ser bigla hahahhahahaha mga thoughts na biglang lumilitaw but kung meron mang tao na ganon ay hayahaay ang buhay kaso risky bitcoin pa jahahahha salamat sa comment ser

i think d nmn risky c bitcoin madami nmn paraan para sa ganyang bagay like mag put up ka ng business  or kung anu anu payang pag kaka kitaan hnd nmn ikaw bibili lng ng lupa walng negosyo dba.
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August 01, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
#18
Mga maam/sir what if ayun nga meron syang acc na medyu sabihin na nateng kumikita talaga ng malaki.. and then nagkaroon ng mga assets like lupa bahay and mga estates

Me mga pagkakataon ba na haharangin sya ng kung ano mang government chuchu na tatanungin sya kung saan nya nakukuha yunng pera nya na ganon kalaki and parang lilitisin.. kase alam ko me tax naman si bitcoin naten pag i exchange na diba??

Naisip ko lang po🙂
Paki correct po ako kung super mali hehehezz
Depende po yon sir kung andami mong ariarian tapos wala kang declare na kinikita mo hindi ka man lang nagffile ng annual income tax mo at hindi mo naman naman mga assets mo ay may chance talagang masilip yon. Kaya better if want mo mag pundar mag file ka din ng income tax return.
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August 01, 2017, 12:06:00 PM
#17
Mga maam/sir what if ayun nga meron syang acc na medyu sabihin na nateng kumikita talaga ng malaki.. and then nagkaroon ng mga assets like lupa bahay and mga estates

Me mga pagkakataon ba na haharangin sya ng kung ano mang government chuchu na tatanungin sya kung saan nya nakukuha yunng pera nya na ganon kalaki and parang lilitisin.. kase alam ko me tax naman si bitcoin naten pag i exchange na diba??

Naisip ko lang po🙂
Paki correct po ako kung super mali hehehezz

Posible po yun kung malakihan na ang transaction o nakukuha mong kita at, halimbawa, ang ginamit mong exchange sa pagwithdraw noong kita mo na yun ay Coins.ph or yung exchanges dito sa Pinas na under sa regulation ng Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP). Mangyayari po yan kung yung malaking kita mo ay galing sa illegal activities o kakikitaan ng irregularities. Diyan pumapasok po yung KYC/AML na pinapatupad ng Coins.ph base sa policies ng BSP. Halimbawa, wala ka namang business o whatsoever na pwedeng pagkuhanan ng malaking pera pero ang lagi mong winiwithdraw sa kanila ay nasa 100,000 pesos pataas, pwede yan tanungin o kwestyonin sa'yo ng Coins.ph. At kundi mo yan masasagot ng malinaw, pwede nilang i-forward sa BSP yung information mo at yung affiliate nila ang mag-iimbestiga sa 'yo, o yung tinatawag na Anti-Money Laundering Council (AMLC).
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August 01, 2017, 11:35:36 AM
#16
Un nga po kase ang mali ...
Ung mindset nila fraud di totoo scam saka ilegal dahil me mga nahuli na mga tao na dahilan is bitcoin pero para den naman sa aten ung ginagawa nila eh minsan lang umaabuso and mali ung proseso kaya nagkakaganon🤗
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August 01, 2017, 11:29:43 AM
#15
Mga maam/sir what if ayun nga meron syang acc na medyu sabihin na nateng kumikita talaga ng malaki.. and then nagkaroon ng mga assets like lupa bahay and mga estates

Me mga pagkakataon ba na haharangin sya ng kung ano mang government chuchu na tatanungin sya kung saan nya nakukuha yunng pera nya na ganon kalaki and parang lilitisin.. kase alam ko me tax naman si bitcoin naten pag i exchange na diba??

Naisip ko lang po🙂
Paki correct po ako kung super mali hehehezz

ang masasabi ko jan sir siguro haharangin ka talaga ng government kung makabili ka ng bahay at lupa na di mo naman dinaan sa banko i mean kinash mo sya tapos wala ka naman magandang trabaho na taas ang kita or wala ka namang business ... tapos pag tinanung ka sasabihn mo sa bitcoin galing sa online iisipin nila scammer ka or nag bebenta ka ng drugs ganun
kaya mahirap din na bigla kang yayaman oo kaya nating yumaman sa pamamagitan ng bitcoin pero di maiintindihan ng mga tao yun kasi alam nila scam ang bitcoin
Ayun nga po no tamang tama. Pero bakit kaya nangenge elam yung gobyerno sa ganong bagay? Kailangan talagang idaan sa banko? Ano para kumita rin sila sa pinaghirapan nung tao? Tanong ko lang din po kasi nabuo yang tanong na yan sa isip ko po. Kasi kung alam naman legal diba po bakit kailangan e nagpatayo ka lang naman ng bahay. Ayun lang po tanong langg. Salamat sa sasagot.
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