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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 06, 2020, 06:04:32 AM

Thanks for all the kind words, and apologies for being away yesterday. There were some issues involving my 95 year old friend ( she has just had a birthday), and I spent quite a bit of time at her house. She has a neighbour trying intimidate her, and apparently he had her pinned against the wall as he went incandescent, and he was expelling spittle with his venom. I'm not too keen on behaviour like that, so I went up there to give her a bit of support and protection. It's pretty disgusting, as she is a lovely lady, and just wants to live quietly with her cat, and support the wildlife in the woodland she owns. Rich people son't seem to like woodland to be left alone for the wild life, they feel it is a wasted asset, and they try to take it away from elderly people who don't want to live next to a concrete jungle, or an industrial site.

I'll revisit this thread,and comment on some of the ( good ) suggestions later. At the moment I'm researching the government protection laws on tumuli in England.

That's messed up. How long has the harassment been going on?

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Thanks for all the kind words, and apologies for being away yesterday. There were some issues involving my 95 year old friend ( she has just had a birthday), and I spent quite a bit of time at her house. She has a neighbour trying intimidate her, and apparently he had her pinned against the wall as he went incandescent, and he was expelling spittle with his venom. I'm not too keen on behaviour like that, so I went up there to give her a bit of support and protection. It's pretty disgusting, as she is a lovely lady, and just wants to live quietly with her cat, and support the wildlife in the woodland she owns. Rich people son't seem to like woodland to be left alone for the wild life, they feel it is a wasted asset, and they try to take it away from elderly people who don't want to live next to a concrete jungle, or an industrial site.

I'll revisit this thread,and comment on some of the ( good ) suggestions later. At the moment I'm researching the government protection laws on tumuli in England.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 06, 2020, 05:53:56 AM

Everything you wrote makes sense, but I don't see anything wrong for the forum having another rank higher than Legendary. That would certainly be an additional motive for those who cannot progress beyond the current rank at the moment. From a merit distribution perspective, a new rank might have the effect that lower ranks might get less merit - but a good post should always get merit, regardless of rank.

No harm if a new rank appears. It is good because Legendaries have more motivation to post and somewhat increase post quality (from high to higher). Earning merit is a challenge at beginning but then it will be a joy.

As I said, even no new rank, I've still enjoyed my climbs on median, and interquartile range (for earned merits).

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I agree with Jet Cash that the path to 2000 merits is not easy even for me personally

It is my target and I will try to join the gang before the end of 2020.

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Quote from: tranthidung on September 05, 2020, 10:09:37 AM

With the average postcount from Legendary members and limited Legendary members with extremely high earned merits as well as median rate of merit earning speed, a new rank is not needed in the near future.

Everything you wrote makes sense, but I don't see anything wrong for the forum having another rank higher than Legendary. That would certainly be an additional motive for those who cannot progress beyond the current rank at the moment. From a merit distribution perspective, a new rank might have the effect that lower ranks might get less merit - but a good post should always get merit, regardless of rank.

I agree with Jet Cash that the path to 2000 merits is not easy even for me personally - and that it will take some time for that to happen - although I don't bother with that, in the end the numbers are just numbers.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 04, 2020, 12:27:00 PM

I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).

Well he don't need merits to rank up because he is already at the highest possible rank and secondly he is not in any signature campaign which requires certain number of merits in the last 120 days.

I guess this is the reason why some members don't bother themselves to merit a legendary member in the forum coz they think that it's all about the ranking system. It is overwhelming for a legendary member to receive a merit coz that means that they are delivering good stuff in here.

An ohh Jet Cash, I think there were a few people who find you health posts convenient for themselves, don't stress yourself too much!

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You have done so well to attain such merit, I salute those whose merit is above their activities. Everyone at legendary and hero stage deserves an accolades. You love updates on health just as you said , and that's where you have made more impact probably because that's more of your area of higher interest it is easier to generate topics from there but you planned to spread to many other topics which is a good Idea and it will help you study wider.

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First of all, congrats to Jet Cash for reaching that big milestone!

I see that conversation slowly slipped towards new rank suggestion, that I honestly think it's not needed (it's true though that I'm just a Sr Member so my pov might be different from the veteran members). I really don't understand why would people want some extra carrot on a stick, instead enjoying their well deserved Legendary rank. Imho, that wouldn't make them any more recognisable or respected on the forum, and all it could cause is make new members to rank up at even slower pace than now, as merit distribution would be somewhat different if all active legendaries suddenly have an extra rank to aim for.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 05, 2020, 08:25:03 AM

If we take a look at LoyceV's statistics on active users by rank, there have been 477 active users with Legendary rank in the last 7 days, which may not be a completely objective fact if we take into account that the holidays are still going on, and that some members are taking a break from the forum.

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With the average postcount from Legendary members and limited Legendary members with extremely high earned merits as well as median rate of merit earning speed, a new rank is not needed in the near future.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2020, 05:00:13 PM

I'm not quite sure what you're saying as a whole here, but I really wish Theymos would add a rank above Legendary (or restructure the ranking system entirely--a complete overhaul wouldn't be too bad IMO). Then again, I've said this before: the number of Legendary members is probably going to shrink over time, as older ones drop out via attrition and new ones are made at an extremely low rate. In a few years, you might not see a lot of Legendaries posting on bitcointalk, but we'll see.

Maybe another rank is not a bad idea, it's just a question of what conditions to set for it - how much activity and how many merits would be appropriate for such rank? There is no doubt that the number of Legendary members (active ones) will decline over time for a variety of reasons - and it is also evident that only exceptional individuals can collect 1000 merits within a reasonable time.

If we take a look at LoyceV's statistics on active users by rank, there have been 477 active users with Legendary rank in the last 7 days, which may not be a completely objective fact if we take into account that the holidays are still going on, and that some members are taking a break from the forum.

I would deny the idea of another rank above Legendary. Currently it is very difficult to rank up if you start fresh from Newbie and getting to legendary is like a dream. Any rank above it will not make much sense in the current scenario.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2020, 05:00:13 PM

I'm not quite sure what you're saying as a whole here, but I really wish Theymos would add a rank above Legendary (or restructure the ranking system entirely--a complete overhaul wouldn't be too bad IMO). Then again, I've said this before: the number of Legendary members is probably going to shrink over time, as older ones drop out via attrition and new ones are made at an extremely low rate. In a few years, you might not see a lot of Legendaries posting on bitcointalk, but we'll see.

Maybe another rank is not a bad idea, it's just a question of what conditions to set for it - how much activity and how many merits would be appropriate for such rank? There is no doubt that the number of Legendary members (active ones) will decline over time for a variety of reasons - and it is also evident that only exceptional individuals can collect 1000 merits within a reasonable time.

If we take a look at LoyceV's statistics on active users by rank, there have been 477 active users with Legendary rank in the last 7 days, which may not be a completely objective fact if we take into account that the holidays are still going on, and that some members are taking a break from the forum.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on September 05, 2020, 02:56:05 AM

Quote from: mk4 on September 04, 2020, 12:27:00 PM

I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).

Even lower ranks feel good when receiving merits like me when I got my merits few days ago. It may be true merits is not much use for legendary rank but merit doesn't have a rank barrier where you should only send merit to hero member rank and lower but it's not. Merit is for everyone who created a thread that is helpful and as what FIFA worldcup mentioned about merit within 120 days requirement to join signature campaigns so legendary rank are no exception.

It is always good to get merits because it shows the love for the people. The more merits a user gets it means more people like his posts. I am happy for him to reach 2000 merits which is a great achievement.

Congratulations Jet Cash

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 04, 2020, 12:00:38 PM

What a struggle it has been to get my last 20 merits to get to my 2,000.

First of all, big congrats!

I feel you, but we both know that there are better and "slower" periods on merits. Last month seemed ..."slower". Maybe because of holidays too? I don't know.
But a lot of people will still merit a lower rank easier than a legendary because those need the merit points more. And it's OK.

I think that the only conclusion is: we still need much more merit sources.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 04, 2020, 12:27:00 PM

I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).

Even lower ranks feel good when receiving merits like me when I got my merits few days ago. It may be true merits is not much use for legendary rank but merit doesn't have a rank barrier where you should only send merit to hero member rank and lower but it's not. Merit is for everyone who created a thread that is helpful and as what FIFA worldcup mentioned about merit within 120 days requirement to join signature campaigns so legendary rank are no exception.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 04, 2020, 12:27:00 PM

I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).

Well he don't need merits to rank up because he is already at the highest possible rank and secondly he is not in any signature campaign which requires certain number of merits in the last 120 days.
He is posting good stuff about health and those who are interested follow his posts and may never look how many merits he is getting for his posts.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 04, 2020, 12:56:23 PM

I think quite a lot came from my fit to talk and other projects,and I became a bit disenchanted with those. The blogs and forums were getting a lot of spam, and very sporadic support. I wouldn't mind reviving Fit to Talk and the Crypto Coin Tree. The lock downs changed a few things for me, and I decided to move further into off grid living. It is a far healthier life style, but I need to install a couple if solar panels to generate my own electricity. Maybe I could use those to power that ASIC miner that I was given, that is if I can find what I did with it.

Where ever it cam from -it. Should/must have been deserving- you are very much active in -serious discussion, ivory tower- board, and this board has less traffic/attention - which should not be - is it because of signature are not shown?. Having your opinion -even if it doesn't tally with people 's opinion- is character, it might make you look -stubborn/grumpy-. I think the value wasn't measured or appreciated in merit, but for those who saw it -the post- and something new got known.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on September 04, 2020, 05:45:27 PM

I meant to say that either we need to have one more rank above the legendary or the legendaries should not care about their merit counts anymore to overcome such feelings.If we didn't implement the merit system then by now we might have more legendaries than member and newbies, so the merit system is working but may need a tweak in this particular case but only theymos can decide what can be done.

I don't really think of a new rank. It seems to be unnecessary (for me at least). I have been in the forum since 2017, not long enough compare to other old-era Legendaries but I can realize most of Legendaries on the forum. It is a kind of Recognition Badge that is enough.

My joy is fighting for my unofficial position in top ratings:

Most Merit (includes initial merit) -- BPIP
Weekly earned merits (median) of top 100 merited users
Ratings for median and interquartile range of weekly earned merits

You know, it is more interesting and competitive than a new rank -- you can not surpass/ beat the others in one day, especially with stats like median & interquartile range.

More important: Merits, rank don't reflect exactly who you are and level of your contribution on the forum.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2020, 05:00:13 PM

Quote from: Findingnemo on September 04, 2020, 04:23:21 PM

Sometimes I had such thoughts as well, some legendaries are not receiving enough merits just because they had no more rank to reach so it is important to add one more rank to bring the race towards merits or legendaries should not worry about their merits anymore just be themselves forever?!

I'm not quite sure what you're saying as a whole here, but I really wish Theymos would add a rank above Legendary (or restructure the ranking system entirely--a complete overhaul wouldn't be too bad IMO). Then again, I've said this before: the number of Legendary members is probably going to shrink over time, as older ones drop out via attrition and new ones are made at an extremely low rate. In a few years, you might not see a lot of Legendaries posting on bitcointalk, but we'll see.

I meant to say that either we need to have one more rank above the legendary or the legendaries should not care about their merit counts anymore to overcome such feelings.If we didn't implement the merit system then by now we might have more legendaries than member and newbies, so the merit system is working but may need a tweak in this particular case but only theymos can decide what can be done.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on September 04, 2020, 02:17:56 PM

I think I use some of the threads and posts as an alternative bit of social interaction. Sometimes I spend quite long hours on the computer, and it makes a nice break. Often if I visit people, they seem to have the TV on all the time, and it isn't very often that there is anything interesting on there. Then I might get involved in researching things like the Knights Templar, and their subsequent evolution into controlling the EU and the UK amongst other countries. It's quite difficult to introduce that into a social conversation, as most people don't seem to go much further than talking about Trump's hairstyle or similar topics of world shattering importance. They also seem to be more concerned with the colour and decoration of their face masks, rather than their efficacy.

I stopped watching tv 8-9 years ago and I feel the same about it like you. I purposely turn the tv if it is on in my living room when I have people coming. I hate when I talk to people and they are half listening, half watching tv and not really engaged into a conversation. Naturally in that kind of environment and that type of people you can't hope to have a proper meaningful conversation, let alone reach topics like Templar Knights and such.

My bubble of friends has shrinked to one hand in the last 5 years especially and to be honest it feels much better that way. You don't waste energy on zombies and energy vampires, focus more on yourself and talk only when you really want to. No more listening to shit about daily stuff that is spoon fed to regular Joe's.

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Quote from: jackg on September 04, 2020, 03:09:00 PM

Also on the antipharma aspect, I think a lot of drugs are overprescribed or cause other problems.

Oh, I'd love to discuss that--but I'm not a member of this forum to chat with people about those sorts of issues. I'm here to talk and learn about bitcoin (and crypto in general). Unfortunately I spend so much time on bitcointalk that I don't think I'd have much time left to contribute to even one other forum. Oh well.

Quote from: Findingnemo on September 04, 2020, 04:23:21 PM

Sometimes I had such thoughts as well, some legendaries are not receiving enough merits just because they had no more rank to reach so it is important to add one more rank to bring the race towards merits or legendaries should not worry about their merits anymore just be themselves forever?!

I'm not quite sure what you're saying as a whole here, but I really wish Theymos would add a rank above Legendary (or restructure the ranking system entirely--a complete overhaul wouldn't be too bad IMO). Then again, I've said this before: the number of Legendary members is probably going to shrink over time, as older ones drop out via attrition and new ones are made at an extremely low rate. In a few years, you might not see a lot of Legendaries posting on bitcointalk, but we'll see.

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Jet cash doesn't need merits to get recognized, avatar is more than enough. Wink

Sometimes I had such thoughts as well, some legendaries are not receiving enough merits just because they had no more rank to reach so it is important to add one more rank to bring the race towards merits or legendaries should not worry about their merits anymore just be themselves forever?!

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